Malema arrives in Marikana

2012-08-18 13:01

Johannesburg - A large group of men have gathered in Wonderkop in Lonmin, Marikana ahead of an address by expelled ANCYL leader Julius Malema on Saturday.

Malema arrived at the site in a large white Land Rover. He was expected to speak to striking Lonmin workers following deadly clashes this week.

The strikers, most of whom were carrying sticks, were not allowed to put on their hats or caps and were ordered to switch off their cellphones.

"This is a holy place," said one man when asked why cellphones should be switched off.
Suspended ANC Youth League secretary Sindiso Magaqa and Floyd Shivambu was also there.

‘Striking for what they deserve’

Shivambu said the mineworkers were fighting for a good cause.

"It cannot be right that people working underground under difficult conditions could be paid as little as R4 000."

He said mineworkers should be treated fairly and paid well.

"They are striking for what they deserve," said Shivambu.

He described Thursday's shooting as 'unfortunate'.

"There are many methods to disperse the crowds rather than to use the maximum force police applied."
Shivambu said they could have used water cannons to disperse the crowds.

"Most of the people were shot at the back, indicating that they were running away so police actions were not justified."

A distance from where the men had gathered, a group of around 150 women were protesting, saying the police should take care of their children because their fathers had been killed.

"Enough is enough [Police Minister] Nathi [Mthethwa] with your police," read one placard.
Another placard read: "Who is going to support our children because their fathers have been killed."

More than 78 injured

A police helicopter also hovered above the gathering.

A total of 34 people were killed in a shootout that erupted near the mine on Thursday when police tried to disperse striking miners.

More than 78 people were injured. Another 10 people had by then been killed in the violent protests at the mine over the past week.

The protests were believed to be linked to rivalry between the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) and the Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (Amcu) over recognition agreements at the mine. Workers also demanded higher wages.

  • herbert.plessis - 2012-08-18 13:07

    If he was there at the time.... One well placed shot.... The possibilities are endless!

      buhlebam.nyuswa - 2012-08-18 13:18

      I am with you on this one! Even today the probabilities are high. let's pray he does something (smart) and that shot - just one and we will live peacefully thereafter!

      BulletProof. - 2012-08-18 14:32

      I think so.Investigations should go also on is direction, he might have the finger in the pie as well.

  • Lyndatjie - 2012-08-18 13:08

    In what capacity?

      rocky.bell.927 - 2012-08-18 15:22

      ..............his own point scoring capacity. Winnie told him to go. "Go boykie - go show them what a wonderful king you will be!. Play with their feelings will score big time".!! The striking mine workers are like sponges ...... they will suck up to those who have empathy with them!!

      mario.polanski.3 - 2012-08-18 19:45

      Spiderman Malema, SUPER HERO of the black oppressed, is back hanging upside down from his perch, intently breaking open sunflower seeds

  • neville.chamberlain.509 - 2012-08-18 13:09

    This is what Kidi Amin loves - a good rabble rousing. By this afternoon an alrteady volatile situation would be inflamed to flashpoint again

      buhlebam.nyuswa - 2012-08-18 13:19

      Then the police won't miss! They should aim for the head

      fussed.anderson - 2012-08-18 15:08

      Just think of the explosion "smile"

  • patterson.graeme - 2012-08-18 13:10

    But what about the rape and the murdering of the 10 civilians?

      azande.futhi - 2012-08-18 13:16

      where are the culprits?

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-18 13:10

    so the snake reveals himself, this everyone is the man that started this, this is the man that is trying to overthrow the ANC government.

      salee.sithwell - 2012-08-18 14:09

      What a simplistic argument. Well done.

      fussed.anderson - 2012-08-18 15:09

      winnie told him to go there

  • kevin.pitzer - 2012-08-18 13:10

    This is absurd ....One negative and inciting comment should result in a charge of treason !

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-08-18 13:13

    Here comes TROUBLE......

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-08-18 13:17

    I suppose there will be flocks of the "Bigwigs" visiting, trying to raise their profile. Unfortunately, not one will have a sensible answer.

  • langton.gudo - 2012-08-18 13:24

    To be poor doesn't mean we Deserve to die,my condolence to the family,for u are happy tell us whats next?????

      salee.sithwell - 2012-08-18 14:14

      That's perfectly fine and lovely. As long as you don't kill or try to kill others, we are in agreement.

  • ljvanrensburg1 - 2012-08-18 13:26

    What is is with Malema and a WHITE VEHICLE ????????

      rocky.bell.927 - 2012-08-18 16:23

      YES ........ R1.0 million+ White Range Rover. "I was not in the struggle to be poor"!!!!!!!!

      anton.coetzee.37 - 2012-08-19 06:20


  • ceboccd - 2012-08-18 13:27

    there just had to be a driving force behind that whole saga

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-08-18 13:30

    Malema-ooyes! Fuel more violent protests because that number of calsuties is not enough to you.

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-18 13:40

      he has blood on his hands like his teacher, Winnie Mandela !!!!

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-08-18 13:38

    Very interesting to read and very funny to comment, But hmm...dont forget to comfort one another its indeed darkest cloud-moment.

  • martin.smit.3990 - 2012-08-18 13:39

    May GOD protect is children in blue at Marikana.

  • sonofoldman - 2012-08-18 13:41


  • kenny.bianco.7 - 2012-08-18 13:41

    What is Malema's business there? He is nothing except the country's eccentric, opportunist, liar, rotten vulture. What's his position or maybe he was behind the whole sagga. I wish he was the 1 shot than those ppl

  • TawwaTienie - 2012-08-18 13:46

    Hier is die kap van die byl. The ANC youth and nationalising mines!!

  • attie.viljoen.39 - 2012-08-18 13:47

    Yes and Whiles they are there maybe the ANCYL should sommer take responsibility for their contribution in the violence at protests as in Cape town and this one. They are a shining example for all in this country. But then I suppose they are quite on par with the execution plan of the ANC and their NDR. No one said they are not allowed to strike but do they think the rest of the people are dogs that they must come to disputes and negotiations weaponed to the teeth. “Criminals and barbarians.”

      david.thulani.98 - 2012-08-18 13:58

      malema is a failure , includes his alies,i do not want to hear anyone commenting poiting finges to the police or unions ,le'ts allow the enqury to intervene.

  • langton.gudo - 2012-08-18 13:47

    That's painfull,unacceptable and I feel to cry y y...very sad:'(

  • thukgi.manthata - 2012-08-18 13:49

    And the only thing they said about Malema is that "arrived at the site in a large white Land Rover' what does that have anything to do with the stike?

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-08-18 13:52

    So many widows to marry?

      azande.futhi - 2012-08-18 13:55

      is that meant to be funny?

  • tshivhombelaf - 2012-08-18 13:52

    Malema and Shivambu should've gone there in uniform and disperse the armed crowd themselves. These power craving individuals are not peace lovers and they are destined to set SA alight.

      kenny.bianco.7 - 2012-08-18 13:55

      And we must not let them

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-18 14:06

      why would he do that, he was the snake that told them to attack, this is his plan

  • phosa.peter2 - 2012-08-18 13:58

    I think 16't AUG should b declared Rustenburg massacre just like sharpville massacre so dat History could b written 'how brutallity was so-called 'Democrasy under incompetent leadership was.! Execution of poor peoples was justified to please the of a black man was so cheap than during apperteid..all this shuld b written down regardles of tarnishing the image of ruling party, Truth should be told.

      tshepo.phasha1 - 2012-08-18 14:21

      I agree with u

      charmaine.hoffmann.1 - 2012-08-18 15:30

      Yes Phosa, aggree, as long as it does not become a holiday, because I think this is just the beginning and we would not have enough days on the calander for more.... we have to work sometime you know...

  • simon.mwando - 2012-08-18 14:02

    Damn! You ar 2days late juliarse,(king o anarchy) we wish u dead also.

      kenny.bianco.7 - 2012-08-18 14:11

      He should've been infront

      simon.mwando - 2012-08-18 14:13

      Shut up @bra tebza

      trevor.pietersen.3 - 2012-08-18 14:24

      he had to wait...till Winnie told him what to say.

  • kenny.bianco.7 - 2012-08-18 14:04

    If South Africans can stand together without race and politics, these Malema's and Shivambu's would have no platform, even abt crime and other negativities, let's try it and you'll see it works

  • markhams.hudivhannyimudanamafhungo - 2012-08-18 14:07

    New information everytime u hear news of Marikana.....Shivhambu says \most of them was shot on their backs\, he did not state his source. Can some1 confirm that information!!!

      rocky.bell.927 - 2012-08-18 16:37

      BS as always .... NEVER trust one single word Shivambu utters. Did you see the video footage. Clear as daylight the miners were moving towards the police. HARD evidence. Every single suspended and present anc yl member is a liar. Sies Shivambhu!! Sh*t stirrer!!

  • sonofoldman - 2012-08-18 14:09

    TELLY TUBBY MALEMA is only there to incite violence again,he is no longer a leader fecking idiot

      rocky.bell.927 - 2012-08-18 16:38 come, qhesi??

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-08-18 14:10

    Malema and his gang are setting themselves up as an alternative government. If the so-called Boeremag are prosecuted the same should apply to Malema and gang. So obvious that Malema is challenging the State President of the country for actual government control. Let's see what evolves out of this. Many of us may not be happy with the Zuma administration or the police but by all that is precious to us we will not accept the Malemas and their fashion stakes as our new leaders. Floydie looked STUNNING in his posers. Lovely! What did Julia say? Also full of admiration? Julius and Floydie the posers for fashion photos and now the rough and tumble fighters for the mineworkers? Ouch! The irony!

      notshwala.matshinini - 2012-08-18 14:18

      i agree with u he is becoming boeremag

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-18 15:52

      he is basically committing high treason, by the end of the year he will be charged.

      rocky.bell.927 - 2012-08-18 16:40

      ..and tonight dilema and floydie will book into Sun City and have a "ball" of a time!! "Tickle you here, tickle you there..... ooooh!!"

  • godfreytapiwa - 2012-08-18 14:12

    my deepest condolences to the berieved familis

  • zwelethu.sabasaba - 2012-08-18 14:13

    If the head lines where, \Young South African wins a noble prize\, there could have been 1 or 3 comments. Apartheid really messed you up old timers.

      patrick.mettle.7 - 2012-08-18 14:18

      Black on black violence and somehow you able to point fingers at whites. Wow. On in africa by africans.

      salee.sithwell - 2012-08-18 14:30

      Funny, Patrick, I do not see a reference to whites in Zwelethu's comment? And if I remember correctly, the video shows a white commander giving the "cease fire" order, the implication being that he also would have given the "fire" order. The point I am making is that do not start a race argument where none is warranted. Zwelethu is right, apartheid did mess up the old timers - regardless of race. Why would anyone want to deny that, unless they have a chip on their shoulder...?

      rocky.bell.927 - 2012-08-18 16:43

      Apartheid messed you up????? Wow - what a statement - rather be thankful, apartheid set you free!!!

      zwelethu.sabasaba - 2012-08-18 17:51

      I am not an old timer Rocky. And if apartheid set me free, i am thankful to it and to you for pointing it out, honestly ;-)

  • Nhlanhla Zondi - 2012-08-18 14:14

    Just another publicist stunt for Malema and crew. If Malema was so concerned about the people he could've sorted service delivery issues of Limpopo first

      kenny.bianco.7 - 2012-08-18 14:16

      That thing is a moron

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-18 15:54

      yup, where was he when there were no books in Limpopo, if he cares so much about the youth, you would have expected him to be worried about children's education, but Malema was nowhere to be see. Funny that.

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-08-18 14:15

    Julia and Floydia the fashion people now trying to mediate on behalf of the rugged mine workers? Only in SA.

  • siphiwo.maurice - 2012-08-18 14:20

    Malema's visit to the mine workers, is a pure justification that, older guards have no idea of handling heated issues. They used the SAPS to negotiate with the workers, where have you seen that? Is this beloved country sliding down to a police-state? Why are the old guards scared of the people who put them into power? Why are they not listening to them? Why can't they provide leadership in times like these?...They instead, use police to maim workers. Poor leadership in all angles.

  • duma.nkabinde - 2012-08-18 14:24

    News 24 cadres are more concern about the economy and Lonmin, than African men who were murdered for paycheques! murdered by a corrupt bunch of thugs protecting the wealth of a few.......NOT YET UHURU!!!!

      rocky.bell.927 - 2012-08-18 16:51

      boggom, .....boggom!!!!!

  • peter.ellis.37051 - 2012-08-18 14:26

    These coments of maximum force saying this or that shouid of been done.Have you ever faced a large out of control croud with spears pangas and weapons shouting threats just look at the plackards that are being held up now, they dont want to negociate. May be all these brave people should go and show the police how to handle it.

  • youri.mbhalati - 2012-08-18 14:28

    in which capacity r u addressin' dos pupils. ur a nobody. u should go hme ad shut-up. foolish young man.

  • qhesi - 2012-08-18 14:30

    Malema stand with South Africans not with Lonmin(London Mine) that mine must be SAmin. Morons who don't wanna belief that must go and stay in London with their killer cops

  • louis.langenhoven - 2012-08-18 14:30

    Just what I expected- further rhetoric to fan the flames- can these ANCYL idiots EVER do something usefull?

  • duma.nkabinde - 2012-08-18 14:34

    Somebody had to speak to the miners and who better than someone who can speak a language they understand (an african language)

  • mzukisijola.jose1 - 2012-08-18 14:35

    You are a future juju ,ASIJIKI

  • gillian.wilde - 2012-08-18 14:36

    Who goes on strike or to negotiations with spears, pangas and guns????? Who hacks 2 policemen to death with pangas???/ Who burns two security guards to death in their car/// Who kills their fellow workers, 8 of them, while striking/ protesting for the same cause??? And then when they come down the hill with pangas, spears and the policemens' weapons expect that nothing will happen. It beggars belief!!! I am in full agreement that they need to be paid a decent wage for what they do and the mining company should have sorted this out a long time ago, but killing people and taking weapons on strike is not the way this should have been done.

      gillian.wilde - 2012-08-18 15:53

      why the thumbs down? stupid trolls

  • ammpike - 2012-08-18 14:38

    On this forum here are people who are so full of hate and racism they don't even know any more what's right or wrong some are so absorbed by hate and bitterness

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-08-18 14:43

    The anarchist going to address the anarchists!

  • tshepo.phasha1 - 2012-08-18 14:45

    Whether u like it or not, Malema is influential

      makhosi4life - 2012-08-18 14:59

      4wat u idiot

      joyce.kweyama - 2012-08-18 15:38

      Hitler was influential. He destroyed the world.

      robqb - 2012-08-18 20:02

      @tshepo. Yes, unfortunately.

  • judith.taylor.56 - 2012-08-18 14:47

    Your violent comments reveal that you all have no more interest in peace and progress than those you criticise. In fact you are also fomenting violence. Do you want civil war?

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-08-18 14:49

    Iwould be very ecstatic and grateful, if the rapists,robers murders would be excuted in such way, other than wasting taxpayers money.

      charmaine.hoffmann.1 - 2012-08-18 15:35

      Yes thank you! So would I..

  • beki.khumalo - 2012-08-18 14:56

    Malema wants to know why police would be intimidated by the type of weapons IFP marches with all the time, without being shot?

  • beki.khumalo - 2012-08-18 14:58

    Malema says Zuma presided over the Massacre of Marikana workers. He goes ahead and says Nathi Mthethwa and Pres Jacob Zuma must step down…..President Zuma said police must use maximum force, a responsible president would have advised restraint.

  • monwabisi.nel.7 - 2012-08-18 14:58

    I think it is verry important for us SA pple to look at the bigger picture abt this whole thing let us not politicize thing . Juju went there to calm down the miners and sympathize with them he not the for politics

  • ljvanrensburg1 - 2012-08-18 14:59

    Yip he loves the whites because without the whites he is a nothing hie hie hieeeee