Malema meets soldiers in Joburg

2012-09-12 13:34

Johannesburg - Former ANCYL leader Julius Malema has arrived at the Lenasia Recreation Centre to address unhappy soldiers and journalists, despite a warning from the defence minister to stay away.

Earlier, about 30 soldiers in civilian dress danced and sang outside the Lenasia Recreation Centre, south of Johannesburg on Wednesday, as they awaited Malema’s arrival.

One of the soldiers, Shakes Mogediri, said the group wanted Malema to help them get back their jobs with the SA National Defence Force.

"We have all been on special leave since August 2009, about 1 100 of us. No-one even told us why we were put on special leave," he said.

"All we want is for Malema to help us go back to work. We have had no money for three years. I have a wife and children to look after."

‘You can’t go on… agitating people’

Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula said in an SABC radio interview on Wednesday that Malema seemed bent on turning soldiers against the state.

"You can't just go on and on and on, and be going around mobilising funeral gatherings and agitating people to become ungovernable," she said.

"What are the consequences? I wish I knew. What I do know is that any responsible citizen in South Africa cannot associate him or herself with a person who wants to agitate and mobilise members of the SANDF against the state because they have concerns," said Mapisa-Nqakula.

SANDF members should use the current structures in place if they wanted to raise concerns.
She said it was not clear in what capacity Malema would address soldiers.

"I do not know and I don't see what value he is going to add in trying to resolve their problems. I don't see in what way he can do that."

The minister said Malema had been "instigating people" in the past few weeks, in an apparent reference to his address to mineworkers at the volatile Lonmin Platinum mine in Rustenburg, and, more recently, his call to Goldfields miners to strike until the National Union of Mineworkers leaders step down.

‘Unrest can’t be allowed in SANDF’

Forty-five people have died at Lonmin's Marikana mine in labour unrest in the past month.
"It cannot be allowed to happen in the SANDF," said the minister.

"It cannot be that we allow an ordinary citizen to stand up and want to instigate and want to agitate members of the SANDF, which is what has happened in Marikana, which is what has happened in the mining industry among those workers.

"It's not acceptable, it is wrong, it is incorrect, and it is not going to be right. My view is that they are all traits... they are all indications that this is counter-revolutionary, I'm sorry," said Mapisa-Nqakula.

She warned soldiers attending the Malema address that there would be consequences if they did not report for work on Wednesday.

"Our memory is very short and we would probably have forgotten where we come from. People died for this freedom... people died for this country, it's been very, very costly.

"I think it is too risky for anyone who wants to agitate members of SANDF to turn against their own government because they have concerns - because effectively that is what it means," she said.

The Friends of the Youth League said Malema would address the soldiers after he was invited by them to listen to their grievances.

  • ken.rowe.509 - 2012-09-12 13:39

    Arrest Malema.

      jacques.otto.50 - 2012-09-12 13:47

      o realy promise...are you that ignorent

      richard.hipkin - 2012-09-12 13:48

      @promise, we also waited at Lonmin and 44 people died... how much more waiting do you want to do?

      desertratbkf - 2012-09-12 13:58

      No! Shoot the scum!

      lynn.syme.1 - 2012-09-12 14:15

      I think they should arrest him for incitement to overthrow the Government.

      mpendulo.dlamini.18 - 2012-09-12 14:39

      LMAO are you guys reading some of these comments, arrest him on what charge..? and what the hell is incitement to overthrow government??? least try and get a charge that exists lol

      kala.bafazi - 2012-09-12 15:53

      Pity stupidity is not criminal.

      matla.motso - 2012-09-12 17:33

      Arrest him for what?

  • gavin.lott.9 - 2012-09-12 13:43

    Just vote DA JuJu.

  • BruceRSanderson - 2012-09-12 13:44

    He should be arrested right NOW!!!!!!

      dewalds3 - 2012-09-12 14:02

      Hehehe - the whining of the naive... DA voter?

      Essy1945 - 2012-09-12 14:31

      Don't just arrest him - he'll get out on a pardon or medical parol - shoot him! - 2012-09-12 17:44

      They won't arrest him. the government is scared of him, he knows to many dirty secrets that may come out. Secondly if they arrest him he will just become a mater. The ANC has created a monster and does not know what to do with him

  • pietervonb - 2012-09-12 13:44

    God is still in control of South Africa

      marius.roets.5 - 2012-09-12 13:52

      God left Africa long time ago.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-12 14:07

      John - more like the people in SA (and the World for that matter)need to wake up and repent.

  • anje.duplessis.9 - 2012-09-12 13:44

    Our Defense Minister needs to sort this out NOW! Malema is out of hand!

      kala.bafazi - 2012-09-12 14:27

      30 people (not soldiers) is hardly a gathering worth noting. I have bigger parties at my house.

      thozi - 2012-09-12 16:20

      I had always been under the impression that only soldiers who had passed Matric were allowed to enlist... if so, how come we still have those who still believe in malema (or in the rabbit, or in being muti-invincible, etc.).

  • john.moodley.7 - 2012-09-12 13:47

    One of these fine days he will be Assassinated. it is coming.

      maree.cassie - 2012-09-12 14:04

      we can only hope!!!!

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-09-12 14:13

      Terrible idea. Create a martyr and people will rally around his memory. However, expose the fraud, lay bare all of his machinations, and expose him to the poor he purports to represent. Let's see how many poor followers he has once all his exposed corrupt chicanery and theft of their money is laid bare. Demagogues need to be exposed and neutralised, not made a martyr of. He must pay to the full extent of the law for his economic sabotage and civil incitement.

  • punungwe - 2012-09-12 13:48

    The problem is not Malema. The problem is the leadership vacuum which he is exploiting. Because South Africans do not have a national leader to look up to, they are looking up to him. He might not have the formal political authority, but then for 27 years not only did Mandela not have formal political authority, he was in jail, but people still could look up to him and say, 'this is a man who cares about us.'

  • stephen.fienberg - 2012-09-12 13:50

    Surely this can be classified as an act of treason. This should be sufficient grounds for an immediate arrest.

  • richard.zanner - 2012-09-12 13:50

    On the news on Radio 702 the Minister says that she is worried and we all should be worried. Question is why is she not doing anything to stop it. Last time I checked she is the minister and not all of us. - 2012-09-12 14:57

      yes but much easier to just sit and worry !!

      maria.roth.589 - 2012-09-12 19:42

      The question is did he address members of SANDF or not? If the soldiers have been fired they are no longer members of the SANDF just jobless citizens. So what is the minister talking about? Please we need clarity or is this just a photo opportunity for the fat boy. Or a government ploy to show they are the better option?

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-09-12 13:51

    "You can't just go on and on and on, and be going around mobilizing funeral gatherings and agitating people to become ungovernable," How dare she claim this, is this not what brought about democracy in South Africa, she forgets that she serves the people and not the other way around. Once again the ANC rhetoric portrayed here by Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula seems to have her falling out of bed in surprise, clueless as to what the heck is actually happening in South Africa. She has fallen off the chair, and awoken to the fact that a revolution is marching through her door, and what does she do, she pronounces and ultimatum as if to continue the rouse that that she and the ANC are ruling, forgetting that their role is one of governance. How pathetic, the ANC once again been caught dozing off at the steering wheel. What has she actually been doing since the armed farces last went on strike (as bazaar as that was) it should have indicated the stirring of trouble ahead, if we make a wild guess, was she buying shoes in Dubai? The actual fact that she is laying down ultimatums to the soldiers of the SANDF only shows that she is not in control, and neither is the ANC, who seem to be in total crises mode without a clue on what to do. Juju is ripping the government apart because they have have been asleep on the job for twenty freaking years while recovering from one Johnny-walker party after the next. Welcome to the hangover from hell.

      customdesign - 2012-09-12 13:56

      Whatever dude, I think she is doing a good job. You don't negotiate with soldiers, you give them orders. Anyhow, the people that were at the meeting are not employed by the SANDF. So this seems just to be one big media ruse.

      ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-09-12 13:59

      The problem is the ANC. They produced this little nutcase Malema.

  • bullardx - 2012-09-12 13:51

    Arrest this joker- Shot him- lock =him order a hit on him or somethin... then by a big chance this will be more than halfway over:p.... JUJU you are an embarassment of the black race and human kind, really dude.

  • marc.ross.965 - 2012-09-12 13:52

    Looks like we will be defending our own lives and property soon. The government is not going to help us. There is a vast amount of information on the net on defending yourself without firearms (which the Gov has removed from law abiding citizens) You will be suprised what is available in your garage or under the kitchen sink. Go out there and learn before its too late. All I am talking about is your G-D given right to defend your life.

  • ken.koen - 2012-09-12 13:54

    They are not soldiers, they are third world riff raff. Real soldiers are disciplined, proud and loyal servants of their country and countrymen.

      Alfred Luis - 2012-09-13 10:02

      Yes bro,suspended soldiers for 3yrs.Did you get that?

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2012-09-12 13:55

    If I am jobless I would not listen to a person that has never held down a job in his life.

      lionel.defrontignac - 2012-09-12 14:29

      These are the same type of fools who will pay a "traditional healer" to win the lotto, but never question why the "healer" has never won the lotto.

      Essy1945 - 2012-09-12 14:33

      Exactly, got his money not from working but stealing it through tenders and a trust!

  • chris.vanderburgh.5 - 2012-09-12 13:55

    Somebody needs to give Julius a pat on the back...with a steel chair!

  • siyanda.dube.1 - 2012-09-12 13:56

    the person who is busy removing our comments you have one boring job i tell you, i guess your eyes hurt now from reading all these comments and deleting (shame).

      jolene.fourie - 2012-09-12 14:16

      Agreed, A comment of mine was removed due to my laughing at how the article was written :-D

  • barengkm - 2012-09-12 14:00

    What their have done,since 2009 until today,when cde malema was asked to help,soldiers than minister says he cross the line,which line,one of the general said on national tv that those soldiers could have been kill if it was other country,why,how can soldiers earning 2500,now,it is fine,business usual ,no

      Joubs1957 - 2012-09-12 14:47


  • marietjie.davel - 2012-09-12 14:01

    Let him... it is time...

  • amused.reader.7 - 2012-09-12 14:01

    lol, 30 ex-soldiers. I feared worse, but maybe the training soldiers undergo leaves them better trained to spot an imbecile than miners??

  • Hemlock - 2012-09-12 14:03

    You don't know the consequence Mapisa-Nqakula??? Then you are a frigging MORON. The consequences are as clear as the nose on your face!

  • tshivhombelaf - 2012-09-12 14:03

    How can you expect to be assisted by someone who has never worked in his life? If he really managed to address the soldiers, it simply implies that power has already eluded Zuma so much as that Malema could commit a coup d`etat.

  • NTULUNGI - 2012-09-12 14:04

    south africa is BURNING.

  • cbooyzen - 2012-09-12 14:04

    they don't know why they are on special leave? well we are the country that allows the military to march on it's own's amaizing that the word treason doesn't come up anywhere?

  • riaan.steenkamp.58 - 2012-09-12 14:04

    Malema is no fool. He's supposed to be just another nobody after the ANC kicked him out, and yet everyone is still talking about him. You've got to admire that kind of political acumen, even if you think what he says is BS.

  • ElKapino - 2012-09-12 14:04

    Go on Juju...

  • DrGonzoSA - 2012-09-12 14:05

    30 people, Viva the revolution!

  • NTULUNGI - 2012-09-12 14:05

    South Africa is Burning

      anthony.dupreez.94 - 2012-09-13 23:19

      yes, burning under the gaze of the first world.....

  • denis.dendrinos - 2012-09-12 14:06

    That's hilareous......... They whine they're underpaid and have to work in "adverse" conditions..... But when they no longer work there - they do nothing for 3 years, don;t try find other work, and want to go back? Oh right - sorry - where else do you get paid for sitting on your arse?

      phathutshedzo.chabie - 2012-09-12 14:41

      You don't know what u tlkng bwt dude

  • pro.cctv - 2012-09-12 14:07

    There is a mass prayer happening at 15h00. We are all praying for stability in the mining sector and for things in this country to turn out non-racial. Please post everywhere!!!!

      Stewart Croucamp - 2012-09-12 14:24

      It is religious leaders that have lead this country to where it is today. Instead of prayers I recommend that you keep your weapons handy to protect yourself and your family.

  • mark.turner.1426 - 2012-09-12 14:11

    just who the hell does this illiterate moron think he is going around addressing all and sunder?I happened to grow up in the apartheid era,I lost friends in the struggle!This punk has not experienced any of this so why are we allowing him to go round like a loose cannon?He has to be stopped by the powers that be.He is nothing but an opportunistic moron.He is not saying anything constructive but going around advocating mayhem and destruction.He has not worked a day in his life,because he's to stupid to fill any position of honest work.Look into his eyes and you will see the signs of a sadistic despot on the verge of madness!

      michael.mothapi - 2012-09-12 14:37

      Yeah right! U know, some ppl are blinded by this moron's arrogant antics. He is turning this country upside down. He must be stopped at all costs before ppl turn on each other. I am sick and tired of this idiot...period. In fact, he must be booked in mental institution and be placed under surveillance camera 24 hours round the clock without any visits.

      jwdupreez - 2012-09-12 14:41

      The ANC bred this "little thing" - house trained is the term that comes to mind. When he tried to 'elevate" himself to fathead Zuma's level with his Tendertrepeneurship & woodworkers "skills and millions" he was told "to wind his neck in" Now that he is not the "lapdog" of the ANC "anymore" he feels neglected and "just maybe short of cash" and typical snotnose that he is - he is throwing his toys. hopefully these two morons will "take each other out" - PittBull Style.Mothlantle must be "laughing all the way to Mangaung" (spelling?) ..two dogs vs one bone....the 3-rd takes it ALL the way to the Union Buildings.....Go Julius GO - help SA rid itself of Zuma and his chronies.

      Mbavhalelo - 2012-09-12 14:56

      Mnr Mark u are not allowing hm, he is jst powerful, Magaung will vote JZ by a narrow margin, n juju will unseat hm via a revolution

  • tik.tok.98837 - 2012-09-12 14:12

    Well, nice to charge all strikers up because he wants attention, which he then gets... but he then gets back into his fancy car, go to his fancy home, eat a good meal (no problems) ..... he feels nothing for them ... only himself

      aubrey.dube.58 - 2012-09-12 15:00

      Good' Mr Malema,cause some of us are not face by the challenges,facing the miners\r\n en the soldiers,then we quickly to point fingers,offering advices from a distance,This people have tryed to go tru proper channels, to voice their concerns' and no on helps, its becoming a trend in South Africa that our leader only attend to pple problems, once pple are up in arms' why!why! They must attend to pple' before that! Viva Malema

      Alfred Luis - 2012-09-13 09:45

      One doesn't have to be poor for one to be able to speak for the poor,if so,then how do we expect Zuma or Zille to speak for the poor and vunerables.Malema went to addres suspended soldiers by invitation and so to striking Marikana miners,i see nothing wrong with that.

  • catie.door - 2012-09-12 14:20

    Oh you people of little faith! You must remember that he got a F for woodwork! That gives him enough brains to run the whole SANDF! LOL

  • leaproach.thekeeper - 2012-09-12 14:20

    What's the problem? Mandela did the same when he was his age?!

  • sivene.nunwana - 2012-09-12 14:21


  • lungile.ndyibithi - 2012-09-12 14:24

    Whilst am still confused about Malema's intervention, the honourable minister seems not to be on top of things. She doesnt instill any confidence in me, ppl are already suspended so how do you say anyone not at work will be delt with.

  • frikkie.botes - 2012-09-12 14:26

    ANC. Malema knows your warnings are but a toothless squeal of an old prairie dog, Remember he was part of you. You have nothing to stop him with . He knows that too. He has got you by the short and curly.

  • karel.freysen - 2012-09-12 14:27

    Adressing 30 jobless peolpe then...

  • long.tom.509 - 2012-09-12 14:27

    This situation has been blown way out of proportion by the media,to much hype about nothing!

  • Makgobe Khala Morwamotshe - 2012-09-12 14:29

    mapisa-nqagula.....Aaiii,hw can u put a worker on leave 4a period of 3yrs?after dat whn she/he raise a concern u try 2stop him/her onagana gore baja eng 4 three yrs?sis u only think 4urself gaona botho

  • Essy1945 - 2012-09-12 14:30

    So if he is no longer a member of the ANCYL or the ANC (expelled) and he is a civilian, can he address employees of the state! Does this mean that anyone including me or JoeJack can also go and talk to them or anyone in a 'force'? Freaking idiot is causing SO much discontent and anarchy - man is he getting everyone he needs on his side (just like the forces in Zim) so that when executes his coup and overthrows the government they're there to back him... PLEASE can someone get rid of him!

  • storm.chambers.5 - 2012-09-12 14:33

    Malema. Eish what a joke you are. You have no business being at the mines, funerals or any dealings with the soldiers. Your time in the spot light is gone, you are a sad sad attention seeking man.

  • kwazinkosi.hadebe.3 - 2012-09-12 14:33

    It's Malema again! Maybe Malema intends to steer an action between the South African beret police group and the South African soldiers! This is probably where we'll see who is tougher than the other one! Who knows!

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-09-12 14:36

    Isalute you soldiers, But is it possible to be reinstated by jobless and out-of-political -power fat Juju? Uhm. . .does . .uhm. .doest it make sense? (scratching my head)

  • christina.setloboko - 2012-09-12 14:39

    according to the article they are not soldiers mos this people, they are retrenched solders, either way malema must be arrested for causing all this unnecessary tension in our country finish an klaar!!

  • ponnymc - 2012-09-12 14:41

    Is this guy a minister of defence? He'll just gonna tell them nothing but to burn tires

  • catherineangelique.swarts - 2012-09-12 14:47


  • ammpike - 2012-09-12 14:48

    I really thought that this people on this forum had some thing more especially some whites they are just insulting bitter and very frustrated they can not debate if you don't agree with them they insult you its just a bunch of hooligans and thugs here if this whites here on this forum can get their way in this country God help the black man this whites on this forum are bad news the hate in them makes me damn!! worried that's why will never vote for a white party they just show how will they treat people if they can regain power they have no clue how to debate politics they are sick bullies sies

      Joubs1957 - 2012-09-12 14:55

      Hey ***hole Check the comments of some of our black brothers and sisters here too!In this country their are only two types of people -Africans who care about the future of the country and Africans who care about only their own future!

      christopher.collins.338863 - 2012-09-12 15:19

      @Ammpike well said sir, it is sad indeed but not all Caucasian people are like the ones here on news24. Majority of them here are bitter for God knows what, they will attack everything anything that is Black. I am glad I happen to know the finest crop of Caucasians who are able to empathize and sympathize. There is an element of growing up that is needed.

      clancy.ogorman - 2012-09-12 16:24

      It is sad that so much anger and hatred is apparent in most of these comments. People in our country still suffer daily hardships, white and black. We should never forget that kindness, generosity and understanding will be the foundations of a great community. Hatred always divides. Malema can only thrive where he can sow division, lets not give him the chance.

      gretchen.oswald.3 - 2012-09-12 17:43

      Okay, let me try understand you correctly. You have a problem with insulting and bitter comments being made?? How do you classify Malema's personality? Calm, submissive and loving??? If so, I must have missed something. I would also like to ask you, but if you had to go back in history and write an overview on how you felt about Terreblanche, would it be written with humbleness......... if you said yes, I would call you a liar. Fact is (and I can only talk for myself here), is that I do not like Militant styled leaders, and especially not when they are busy ruining our beautiful country. (By the way, that included Terreblanche)!!!!! Lastely, I would like to bring to your attention, that you need not worry to ever vote for a white political party- there are none left (maybe you can go do your homework), to find out that there are more black and coloured people in The DA than whites!!!! So save your vote for Juju AND THEN you will see ALL people in SA being so "calm", "loving" and at "peace".

  • 2zbunu - 2012-09-12 14:52

    Ja ne!!! Thats juju no comment!!

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-09-12 14:53

    Juju going to become president his way, its called revolution. Like Che got rid of Baptista. ANC powerless to stop him.

  • maria.kave.5 - 2012-09-12 14:53

    I rest my case - JUJU this JUJU that - hayi me tired!!!! no more!!