Man dies in 19-hour wait for ambulance

2012-06-06 10:00

Johannesburg - Two men, one a brother of a former minister, died in separate incidents after alleged public healthcare bungles, it was reported on Wednesday.

The Star reported that Mlungisi Dlamini, 25, died in Pretoria on Tuesday after he waited 19 hours for a state ambulance to take him to hospital.

Dlamini's brother Sandile said that during the wait he was told that an ambulance was on the way and later told that none were available.

Mashaole Mangena, the brother of former science and technology minister Mosibudi Mangena, 74, died on Friday after he was admitted to Polokwane Hospital several times over seven weeks for a blocked bile duct.

Mosibudi said his brother died in an ambulance while on the way to a hospital in Ga-Rankuwa for emergency surgery.

He said he had to call the Limpopo health MEC and Health Minister Aaron Motsoaledi to intervene.

"As we leave the hospital [after the death] the minister of health returns my call some 48 hours later... he is saddened by the Mashaole story and frankly admits that it is not the only one," Mosibudi said.

  • Graham - 2012-06-06 10:04

    Ever efficient ANC cadres at play!

      danny.levin.351 - 2012-06-06 10:12

      Sadly, the bereaved family will still vote for them, Eish

      ianon.ym - 2012-06-06 10:19

      And they want to implement NHI - SA is rotting.

      Bryan - 2012-06-06 11:14

      Service delivery at it's all time best.. shocking!

      msendi - 2012-06-06 11:35

      Long Live ANC…

      Christopher - 2012-06-06 11:41

      At the end of the day if the majority of the people keep voting anc, this will keep happening. Due to the anc's useless management South Africans keep dying and starving...who cares...I don't! You have yourselves to blame.

      msendi - 2012-06-06 11:51

      Do you mean that all ambulance drivers and paramedics are ANC cadres?

      Bryan - 2012-06-06 12:26

      Wait till one of your family needs an ambulance msendi... Keep it up dude!! Baa baa black sheep bro!!

      msendi - 2012-06-06 12:53

      @Bryan…I feel sorry for the bereaved family… But why blame ANC for everything because not all people are ANC cadres???

      Amazed - 2012-06-06 15:50

      Is there no 1 car were they were waiting that could have taken the person to the Hospital.Slow to think...

      elize.vankerckhoven - 2012-06-06 17:26

      @Msendi who do we blame then?? The ANC runs this country and I am very sure that particular municipality which means they are responsible for the ambulance! Why were there no ambulance available?? No funds to buy enough or to upkeep the current one's, why no funds?? Ever heard of corruption??

      nicole.paulsen.31 - 2012-06-06 20:23

      We live in this society where pizza gets to your house before the emergency does! Sad....

      Sharon - 2012-06-06 20:25

      you get what you vote for,so go and bury the man and then vote for the anc again you deserve it

      oneant - 2012-06-07 02:58

      Why dont they rather use all the beemers and mercs these clowns drive around in? plenty of high speed rescue capability paid for by us ( the taxpayers ) right there.

      Martin - 2012-06-07 07:35

      im still waiting for my cabriolet toilet the anc promised

  • jackal666.daniel - 2012-06-06 10:11

    This is BS! And this BS must stop! Get rid of this government NOW! Oh and all you ANC supporters can you see now how much your beloved party cares for you??? WAKE UP!!!

      carolyn.dewrance - 2012-06-06 11:51

      I agree with you,maybe a really good shake up is very much over due,

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-06-06 12:13

      Unfortunately Carolyn the minds being catered for in this lovely country of ours will need something close to a holocaust to wake them up.

      Aristar - 2012-06-07 03:46

      The government is here to serve not to rule. The basis of a democratic system is that we, the voter, vote for the politicians to be put in place to SERVE US, not rule us.

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-06-07 11:02

      Aristar it is a nice thought but the tribal mentality works differently when you are drunk with power.

  • Victoria - 2012-06-06 10:11

    Shocking! Is human life worth nothing anymore. I really hope that this NHI initiative makes health services better. I am so thankful that I am privileged enough to be able to afford medical aid.

      nadia.chotu - 2012-06-06 12:30

      sadly it won't. It will just mean that more of South African's tax money etc will be siphoned off into some ANC pocket!

  • Bob - 2012-06-06 10:12

    Sue the ANC government for breach of constitutional right to proper healthcare..! I bet this poor soul voted ANC in the first place!

      Jean - 2012-06-06 11:08

      Let them feel the force of the ANC's pathetic health care system...

  • Sagin - 2012-06-06 10:12

    Viva south africa, viva!

      Juan - 2012-06-06 19:40

      Banana anyone??

  • llewellync - 2012-06-06 10:19

    Government please take note. Instead of wasting money on petty street names, stupid parties, unnecessary houses and cars for government officials please start spending all that wasted money on health and education! Please open your eyes and face the actual problems the country are facing instead of worrying about the past and who has the nicest car! It is crippling this entire country!

  • donovan.porter - 2012-06-06 10:21


  • DawidDBBotes - 2012-06-06 10:22

    Welcome to africa, this kinda thing wil not seem strange in 5 years or so. We just not used to how things operate in the rest of Africa

  • shaylene.stenger - 2012-06-06 10:29

    keep voting for the ANC

      Keith - 2012-06-06 10:35

      Yes they will unfortunately

  • Keith - 2012-06-06 10:34

    Just a question what about the likes of ER24 or Netcare? Do they just not service these areas or are the people not aware of them?

      nokuthandwa - 2012-06-06 10:47

      I think people are not aware of them.

      Megan - 2012-06-06 10:56

      Just a question! Are they not private?netcare and er24?

      sharon.truebodyvice - 2012-06-06 11:15

      They dont want to pay for them............sad but true want everything for free it was promised to them

      winston.mullany - 2012-06-06 11:37

      Netcare and ER24 are private companies but they dialed 10177 for a state ambulance. They would gone out to the call if they had gotten it but they then pay the rates of the private service of which they can't or don't want to pay.

      Heather - 2012-06-06 15:02

      Unfortunately these are private companies, that charge a small fortune to collect, with the average minimum wage of +- R2500pm, these poor people cannot afford a private ambulance, in some cases it is their entire months salary that they will be paying :(

      elize.vankerckhoven - 2012-06-06 17:29

      @Shanna maybe this person didn't have the money, ever thought of that!!

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-06-06 10:40

    Our health deopartment is so poor in all parts of ths country and the government knows that but Zuma (the president, "I know what I am doing") urgeas us workers to support his party, no ways

  • nokuthandwa - 2012-06-06 10:45

    This is very sad. The full story is on IOL. This is the timeline leading up to the death. Timeline of Mlungisi Dlamini’s death: 1st call at 2.45pm Told the ambulance is on its way. 2nd call at about 3pm Told ambulance is stuck in traffic because of an accident but is on the way. 3rd call between 4 and 4.30pm Nurses go back to the clinic and give brother number to call ambulance. Brother told they have his details but there are no ambulances and he should check after an hour. At about 6pm Two paramedics in a fire and rescue vehicle arrive at flat to “verify” address. At about 7pm Brother calls operator again but is told there is still no ambulance. 5th call at about 7.15pm Brother calls nurse to inform her that he will bring his brother to the clinic the following morning. 6th call in the morning Mlungisi collapses in bathroom. Brother calls nurse to inform her. Nurse says she will call ambulance. Matron calls Sandile to say ambulance is on its way. Mlungisi dies Sandile calls police asking if they can help transport the body to a morgue. Ambulance arrives at 10.15am on Tuesday

  • Megan - 2012-06-06 10:53

    Ai ANC,GOVERMENT!!!( Please be advised)why do you still vote for a partie that doesn't care about the citizens?they just up there for them selfse,and stealing,stealing,and more stealing!!!they don't mean anything to this country,they just fill up the newspapers and news with coruption,and more coruption,while everything else just goes up,the electrisity is going up again,and they are making it our problem,while they give free electrisity to border africans,millions of money goes to waste with parties,and cars and houses,guys come on,the majority still stay in shacks,villages.with out electrisity,and with out water supply,even with out toilets,and still you being loyal to them.WAKE UP things will never change,they are trying for many years to uplift the poor,but they will never,its just all lies upon lies.As election time draws near,that will be the only time you see them,walking around and making all of you soft,that's just talk,its you as humans that keep them in that high positions,when they there they don't deliver!ambulances yes,there is not enough,there is even not enough police vans.its like well if I don't give enough ambulances,and they die,that's one less person that don't mean anything to me,I have the vote,so they can die.the same with police vans,criminals can walk around,they can hijack you,they will come tomorow as if they came from overseas.I live in a big community,and I don't have medical aid,I'm fortunate to sit at a private doktor when I'm sick,and I'm scared to death if the day comes that I have to go to a state hospital,nowhere in this country you even safe,I live across the street from a court and police stasion,its like the station is always empty,and people gets raped at the back of the police station,and even what's the use VOTING for a better life and a change to come,if you can see and know in your right mind nothing will ever change.take care people and be safe!ONE LOVE!!!

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-06-06 10:53

    On 702 this morning some spokesperson or senior head tried to explain the failures of the amubulance (the state ones) away. Note his underhandedness and it is hoped that radio presenters/journalists will be alerted to the tactic. He tried to divert attention by "let me make you an example" and hopes that the ONE, SINGLE example will suffice and keep people's minds occupied so they start with a different topic and not make more pointed enquiries. Old tactice. One wonders if they are given some formal training to be so devious. Whenever somebody (politicians, trade unionists, public servants) start with their "example" they should be asked to give ALL the examples. Then hear them stammer.

  • gerhard.debruijn - 2012-06-06 10:55

    Ah Yes!! A fine example of what the masses are voting for!!! There we go all you people that claim that you will vote for the African National Corruptors till Jesus comes. This is the result. Jesus came for these blokes!!!!

  • Richard - 2012-06-06 10:56

    What can one say. I am sad for the patient. These things used to work. I am not condoning Apartheid but in that era the people of all colors had working hospitals. Baragwanath was known internationally as a top academic hospital. Go look at it now. I broke my hip some years ago after a horse accident. The ambulance was there within 30 minutes but because I can afford private. What about all the people who cannot. Every day we are told that the Government cannot provide the services as there are no funds. What they do not talk about is the theft and corruption going on and which money could have paid for these services. When we ask for services we are told very quickly there is no money but when we ask about the corruption we are told that this is not a matter to be dealt with on a National Level e.g Mdluli. It does not take much to work out that the Government has lost all control and are far to busy deciding who is going to be the successor and lining their own pockets and the pockets of the favoured few. Amazing how we have gotten used to things like "switch of geysers and heaters" and "Taxis are not subject to the rule of the road in peak hours". My ADSL line has been on and off intermittently for months. Cannot get it fixed and can only talk to a call centre. This is just the beginning. We will have to get used to many other things in the future as the wheels come off one by one. And that is the story of Africa.

      Megan - 2012-06-06 11:03

      I totally aggree.this country is going down,and sadely its going down very fast.and the goverment is to blame for all this crap!

      Heather - 2012-06-06 15:07

      Well said

      Aristar - 2012-06-07 03:51

      The government is here to serve not to rule. The basis of a democratic system is that we, the voter, vote for the politicians to be put in place to SERVE US, not rule us.

  • ken.koen - 2012-06-06 11:02

    Life is cheap in this "democracy"

  • stanley.marries - 2012-06-06 11:04

    And yet MP's are driving with million-rand SUV's and Sedans,but the state don't have money for ambulances!!

      winston.mullany - 2012-06-06 11:41

      Sad to say but isn't nice when the ministers have to answer to the states service at the loss of his brother. Even with all his connections, he failed to make it work. Now the ministers can feel how the ordinary citizen feels everyday with the lack of health services while they sitting on their high and mighty perches.

      Aristar - 2012-06-07 03:55

      The government can afford to spend a fortune on defending its idiot president's "dignity" but cannot afford to pay for a health system which may function. Only the voters have the power to get rid of the garbage which is ruining this country. Once upon a time there was a happy South Africa........ Oh wait!! Even the brothers Grimm never though of that one.

  • Anakin - 2012-06-06 11:05

    So why does the AA EE BEE BBEE and BBBEE policies NOT "wek"? (sarcasm)...the ANC is in power and decides how many ambulances and doctors there should be? How can there just be NO AMBULANCES AVAILABLE? It's a very sick joke, and one caused by an inept govt. Earlier this year we heard of the student with six distinctions that were denied access to UCT to study for a doctor, due to her offending white skin colour. When is all this k*k going to stop, or is a painting of the president eating up all the available resources? Call me racist but then explain to these people who suffer needlessly WHY there are no ambulances. Must the citizens start their own ambulance service so we can their jobs as well, besides having to everything else as well which should be done by the govt., for which we pay taxes. Corruption, inefficiency, laziness, don't give a crap, want more for less work (Post Office strike: I must put aside an entire day now to go and collect undelivered mail due to a strike), PickitUp when they feel like it. We can't depend on the govt. for anything, yet they want more from us for less service delivery with e-tolls and electricity hikes. (NB. Those residents that did not receive their City-Power municipal bills DUE TO THE POST-OFFICE STRIKE will be COMPELLED to use e-billing to get their account details, residents that await vehicle license renewal notices must forget about their car licenses so it expires, bank statements by mail must be waited upon.) We are GATVOL.

      Aristar - 2012-06-07 03:56

      The government is here to serve not to rule. The basis of a democratic system is that we, the voter, vote for the politicians to be put in place to SERVE US, not rule us.

  • Bond - 2012-06-06 11:11

    Shocking service

      michelle.r.archer - 2012-06-06 16:25

      No service!!!!

  • nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-06 11:12


  • tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-06-06 11:19

    was there no neighbour with a car or somebody they could've phoned with a car - surely they had some friends with cars who could've helped. Relying on a state ambulance is a joke. Now let's see who's going to blame this on apartheid now?

      Lerato - 2012-06-06 11:59

      That's what I've been asking,surely someone could have helped.

      Lerato - 2012-06-06 11:59

      That's what I've been asking, someone could have helped.

      Anakin - 2012-06-06 12:05 Emergency numbers for ambulances: State: 10177 Timeline of Mlungisi Dlamini’s death: 1st call at 2.45pm Told the ambulance is on its way. 2nd call at about 3pm Told ambulance is stuck in traffic because of an accident but is on the way. 3rd call between 4 and 4.30pm Nurses go back to the clinic and give brother number to call ambulance. Brother told they have his details but there are no ambulances and he should check after an hour. At about 6pm Two paramedics in a fire and rescue vehicle arrive at flat to “verify” address. At about 7pm Brother calls operator again but is told there is still no ambulance. 5th call at about 7.15pm Brother calls nurse to inform her that he will bring his brother to the clinic the following morning. 6th call in the morning Mlungisi collapses in bathroom. Brother calls nurse to inform her. Nurse says she will call ambulance. Matron calls Sandile to say ambulance is on its way. Mlungisi dies Sandile calls police asking if they can help transport the body to a morgue. Ambulance arrives at 10.15am on Tuesday Emergency numbers for ambulances: State: 10177

  • sango.jika - 2012-06-06 11:20

    Wow 19 hours no help, his family needs to take this useless department to court.

      jannie.debeer - 2012-06-06 12:28

      OMG, court? you thought 19hrs was a long time...

      Amazed - 2012-06-06 15:58

      Take the dept to court for What. This person was not in pain if u are in pain u break every rule even if it means asking a neighbor car to pay later or something or call a taxi hae this slow to think thing is bad, i feel for the dead person though but the decision to wait was wrong on their side

      Christopher - 2012-06-07 09:22

      I am amazed by your stupidity amazed.

  • tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-06-06 11:25

    let's challenge our leaders to use state facilities in order for them too experience first hand what reality is!!! but no, the leaders get the very best of everything including medical care. why are they more important than a man dying in a suburb or township for that matter. Disgusting and a very sad story.

      llewellync - 2012-06-06 11:32

      No, let's challenge our fellow men and woman to vote for a different party for a change. The only way to fix this is to change the leadership. It doesn't even have to be the DA! As long as it's not associated with the ANC I am happy!

  • Margaux - 2012-06-06 11:42

    lets see if 10000 people will march for this and lets blame apartheid!!!! if its an mp or some important person then the navy, military and saps will be called in to help.

  • yvonne.lennert - 2012-06-06 11:44

    An apology is probably supposed to make this bungle up all right? I don't think so. These are people's lives we talking about. God forbid it should happen to someone close to them.

  • nmateke - 2012-06-06 11:45

    People to me is no ANC problem and if we keep on hiding people's bad deeds behind political or unions orgs we not going anywhere. In the Eastern Cape Teachers don't go to school and hide behind the fact that they belong to powerful union, its pathetic, People apply for jobs knowing they do not care about the actual work to be done....

      Teuneman - 2012-06-06 12:16

      Give us a new government(*cough DA*) so we can see if anything improves. If it does, it's your ANC that IS the problem.

      llewellync - 2012-06-06 13:29

      While I agree I want to point out something... No one wants to be in these industries because the government under funds them. Teachers are paid peanuts and the government hospitals and staff are just as underpaid. Why can a private hospital provide good health care while a government one can't? It's because the private hospitals have money. Institutes like schools and hospitals (The GOVERNMENT run ones) need more money. End of story. The government will instead throw many at huge parties and throw away millions towards changing street names. I wonder how much medical equipment and ambulances could have been bought with the money being set aside and spent on changing one street name after the other? Or the massive centenary parties that were thrown? Lots my friend. Lots

  • muofhe.mutelemutobvu - 2012-06-06 12:03

    poor service in SA.what is minister Aron doing? sick n tired of dis goverment.if ur poor,u'll never survive.

      tshepo.batista - 2012-06-06 12:14

      Poor service nd ignorence in S.A dey are gamebling wth people's lyf nd tht's wrng South Africa wake up b4 its 2 late.

  • kevin.oreilly.96 - 2012-06-06 12:14

    The only way that the health and education departments in this country will improve is if ministers and all government officials are required by law to use public hospitals and schools for themselves and their families.

      Phillip du Plessis - 2012-06-06 12:46

      I totally agree with you! time to turn the tables around so the dealer becomes the client...

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-06-06 12:24

    ANC healthcare, & to a llll those that defend the ANC no matter what, this is what you get when you vote for a party that no longer cares. There will be much more of this to come, just hope its not you that dies waiting.

  • ronald.jeffs - 2012-06-06 12:25

    It's a shame that a man died! but his family is involved with the very party that made health care shocking in this country. and if the ANC would just pay attention to the problems we have such as National health care, Schooling, etc. and stop worrying about who has a bigger peace of the pie all the time, we might get somewhere.

  • Michele - 2012-06-06 12:33

    RAINBOW NATION! Let's try voting ACDP - non-racist, honest, high morals, godly leader. They'll clean up the mess. God will bless our nation to be successful, peaceful

  • nathi.maluka - 2012-06-06 12:38

    you know ANC has nothing to do regarding people lazy for to do their jobs... even if COPE or any other party was on lead this was still going to happen, this is to blame on the people working there not a party.

      Michele - 2012-06-06 12:49

      @nathi.maluka, a godly, honest leaders make laws

      Michele - 2012-06-06 12:58

      that bring God s blessing. Let s try and see! You me and all.

      Phillys - 2012-06-07 09:21

      give the DA 1 term in office and i promise you this will not happen!! You see under the DA the emergency services budget will not be cut to pay for a beeg shiny BMW X5 with a R80 000 sound system, and an "official trip" by senior staff to Jamaica to "see how their emergency services function"!! Get my drift?? The money will be used to train sufficient educated staff and to maintain sufficient vehicles to stay on the road!!

      thato.sexybabe - 2012-07-05 09:28

      i agree this has nothing to do with ANC but lazy people who dont respect their jobs....We go back to whites ruling then well be forced to call the BAAs 3 times....

  • pierre.dupreez.58 - 2012-06-06 12:42

    Wow, "A better life for all!". At least the smallminded President has dignity!

      Michele - 2012-06-06 13:04

      to you Meshoe might have a small mind but if one has God Himself what more do you need?

  • Renard De Souza - 2012-06-06 12:44

    And all the Ancyl wants is land back and that will solve the countries problems. Wake up people sort basic services out before wanting to fill your pockets. Disgusting how innocent people die daily. Youth is still not getting the education, health services, social services, skill development that was promised to them by the ANC 18 years ago. Greed seems to take preference in priorities than the people who work daily to make this economy tick.

  • nadia.chotu - 2012-06-06 12:46

    Yesterday there was an article about childrend that died ina blaze because the Fire Engine did not have enough water and today this story? Is the ANC ever going to step up? Instead they blow 100 million on parties, billions on arms deals (that we don't need), 150 million on houses etc.....I'm mean really??? But have a painting of the president and see how effectively the ANC can mobilise themselves!!! And worst of all, not one person in Government will accept accountability for this travesty! We the rest of South Africa must seriously realise that it's time to stand together.... one united opposition....there is no other way!

      kevin.oreilly.96 - 2012-06-06 13:52

      I have to disagree with you when you mention housing because that is something that everyone has a right to. I agree with you if you are referring to corrupt government officials spending millions of public funds on their private properties.

      nadia.chotu - 2012-06-07 08:50

      meant R 150 million on MP's houses.... I'mwalking about how they are squandering tax payer's opposed to utilising it for the purposes intended!

  • Stuart - 2012-06-06 14:22

    They just don't care! They are not even worried about their own kind! (Ubuntu?)

  • herman.brummer - 2012-06-06 14:46

    ANC Cancer, they only promote useless, people and use our money to German cars, go on overseas holidays and visit their girlfriends in jail.

  • philas.ntuli - 2012-06-06 15:02

    nisanganela i-ANC nina belungu.

  • noelle14 - 2012-06-06 15:14

    I will not pay for NHI EVER!

  • cybom.phifer - 2012-06-06 15:46

    Damn it just wont stop, the poor service in our government Departments n guess what nothing changes each year its the same old bloody story. I feel so sad for the bereaved family, i just wish they could just contribute to the funeral preparations, cause what if the man was the only person working in that house hold.

  • Maki - 2012-06-06 16:01

    Then they preach NHI and Nationalization, jab ne, even if you sue it is our tax money, what a life we are living really

  • rrcatto - 2012-06-06 16:04

    Nothing works in Africa. don't people know this already!?

  • Danie - 2012-06-06 16:08

    I gave a lift to a Xhosa lady from EC walking from our local provincial hospital to the RDP housing area. Apparently she could not get a hip replacement in the EC, resulting in her leaving her husband and kids at home and using her sisters adress to obtan as a health care refugee a hip replacement in George, for free. Amazingly enough, she still voted ANC, even though the pathetic ANC EC health care management nearly cost her her life.

      sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-06-07 15:36

      What's with ya'l and the term refugee? U think the WC is an independent state? Stick to ur afrikaans and stop abusing English. No1 is a refugee in their own country.

  • michelle.r.archer - 2012-06-06 16:25

    Just a thought - How long did Winnie wait for an ambulance??? And which Government hospital did she go to???

  • Atampugre - 2012-06-06 16:45

    It is sad that this phenomenon of people loosing their precious and only one life in neglected circumstances is on the increase worldwide.It's high time such on-call for incidences be investigated and culprits dealt with in the full rigrous of the Law

  • muruti.malungana - 2012-06-06 21:51

    This is horrible experience

  • rajeshsood - 2012-06-07 00:27

    As a doctor working in a state hospital I will say that the ambulance services do the best job under the circumstances. Bigger, bus sized ambulances that can transport more people would be an option. However not every person who calls an ambulance deserves one and the sad thing is that the staff are not allowed to choose which patient to pick up. I once remember a girl catching an ambulance for period pains which is such a waste of resources. I am sure this nonsense happens often. The ambulance gets used as a free taxi. To those guys trying to politicize the issue, please accept that after Apartheid no black person will ever vote for any white person for a long long long time. There is no credible "black" opposition to the ANC and until that changes there will be no performance.

      shawnqatar - 2012-06-08 13:07

      I agree as I used to transport may cases such as mentioned, the ambulance services are abused as a taxi service

  • Aristar - 2012-06-07 04:05

    Promises. Promises, who can live on promises! One can die of old age waiting in a queue for "service" at any state hospital. If one were to investigate what happens at any state hospital, one would find that there are bodies that have been lying in the casualty department fir days, because they died without being treated. If every report of this kind were reported, maybe, just maybe the "government" might do something about it. But why should they, when their president cannot think about anything other than his "dignity" (synonym for dick)? This country has gone to hell in a handbasket and it is ruled (not served) by a bunch of moneygrubbing, greedy, rats who should be destroyed.

  • tebogo.maja.77 - 2012-06-07 04:11

    My condolonces to the families, yet another demonstration of how far we still have to go to get service, yesterday i read about our public hospitals state. Now i'd have to call a minister to get an Ambulance, this is appalling. What is the department of health doing?, why do these people still have jobs?

      Bois-Tête - 2012-06-07 07:35

      It's called AA, BEE, Discrimination, Racism, Cadre Deployment, Right to Work, etc, etc.