Man guns down wife, adopted son

2012-03-20 10:07

Pretoria - A man's dream to find his biological parents could possibly have led to his adopted father shooting both him and his adopted mother dead on Monday.

Jan-Louis Venter, 61, of Pretoria North apparently shot and killed his wife, Meisie, 60, and adopted son Innus, 42, during the early hours of the morning in their home in Compact Street, Dorandia.

Gauteng police spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Lungelo Dlamini said both were shot in the head.

Heated argument

According to sources, there had been a family fight because the younger Venter wanted to find his biological parents. Venter’s brother, Derick and his girlfriend (whose name was not known) arrived at the house shortly before the shooting.

A heated argument took place in the kitchen where Venter snr, his wife and the two brothers were sitting at the kitchen table. Venter snr apparently left the kitchen and returned with a gun.

He then allegedly pointed the weapon at his adopted son’s head and pulled the trigger.

Derick Venter and his mother ran out of the kitchen, after which another shot was heard. Meisie Venter had been shot. Both victims died on the scene.

Dlamini said police arrested Venter snr in the street in front of his house.

He was apparently still holding the gun.

  • Mike_or_Mpho - 2012-03-20 10:15

    Is it just me or is there a criminal pattern in Pretoria. It seems that PTA has more domestic-related murders than any other city in SA...and Pretorians consider Jhb a dangerous place, what a laugh

      Mike_or_Mpho - 2012-03-20 10:17

      Not to say that this is a laughing matter, its horrid!

      Andiswa - 2012-03-20 10:22

      Thats true, and the sad part is that family members are killing each other, its not just a stranger going on a shooting spree...this is concerning

      Squeegee - 2012-03-20 10:33


      Hallo - 2012-03-20 10:49

      I suspect this is due to the relatively large population of military personnel (current and former) in and around the city. Many of whom are unknowingly suffering from PTSD

      Marion - 2012-03-20 11:10

      @Hallo - I'm inclined to agree with you. We are not born violent. I think life experiences make us violent. I think we should also consider that this man is 60 and therefore probably spent time on the border/in townships during Apartheid and was never counselled. I think the violence in South Africa during Apartheid has seriously damaged people, from all race groups - the majority of whom are men - to the point where one day something just snaps. Not that I condone any form of violence. I do think the man should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. May the victims RIP.

      nanasei.kobbina - 2012-03-20 11:34

      Marion, i noted a trend, all your comments are genuine.

      greeff.kotze - 2012-03-20 11:36

      Actually, I think the Cape Flats has the dubious honour of being the national capital for domestic violence/murder, if I remember correctly. It just doesn't make the news nearly as often - perhaps the media thinks it's par for the course in the area.

      Dries - 2012-03-20 11:50

      Mr Greef...c'mon we dont shoot our loveones...the cops and gansters yes for sure

      Nkulekweni - 2012-03-20 12:54

      Me too Marion. You are a genuine South African. Much respect to you.

      kobie.nel1 - 2012-03-20 13:42

      Sorry, this comment also ended up at the bottom. @ Marion. Must say it is nice to read a "thinking" comment here, and you very probably have a point. Then on the other hand we must look at the age of most of the killers and we will see that most of them are to young to have experienced that tim,e and its violence. In this case it may be a factor, but have a look at the farm murders and the killers in that cases. Also the cases were young ones like the one yesterday that cut his grandma in a wheelchairs throat. I was a border boy with action experience, and maybe do have a bit of PTSD, but that do NOT make me a killer. What will make me a killer is the 10 family and friends that were murdered since 1994 by young dark people.

      Marion - 2012-03-20 13:43

      @Nanasei and @Nkulekweni - Thank you. I try to remain objective although I don't always succeed. :-)))

      Marion - 2012-03-20 14:38

      @kobie.nel1 - I'm very sorry that you have had to endure the murder of your loved ones. I can understand where you are coming from with regard to what could make you commit murder. I.r.o. Apartheid vs Now - have a look at this link : (which I only researched today) It perhaps helps to understand (although never condone) why the young are doing what they are doing. Violence at every level needs to be eradicated. Sadly, none of us will live to see that day.

      kobie.nel1 - 2012-03-20 17:30

      Marion, lets try again and see if my comment gets removed again. That link of yours I know. It is typical liberal brainwash Bull-.. I do not think you will read links I can sent you. Been there done that. being a farm boy who grew up side by side and work with all racis in this country in a technical field, I know the mindset and differenses in thinking. I know them man to man, not only the tea girl in service of the boss like most liberals and know alls. It is good to be openminded and caring, but not to be blind to reality.

  • dumisiledee - 2012-03-20 10:17

    Sick sick twisted scum, people are worse than animals lately. Atleast with animals they attack or kill when they are hungry or being attacked, humans do it for fun. May their souls rest in peace.

  • Itumeleng - 2012-03-20 10:17

    Life is SA increasingly becoming cheap. People feel entitled to take the lives of others. :-(.

  • Rudie - 2012-03-20 10:17

    Something tells me that the so-called adoption was not an adoption but maybe the mother had been around the block 42 years ago.

      dumisiledee - 2012-03-20 10:22

      But it still doesn't give this scum reason to kill? why didn't he shoot himself instead?

      Perfume - 2012-03-20 10:34

      It still gives no reason for this man to murder them. He brought the man up as his own.

      Khomotso - 2012-03-20 10:36

      If that's the case, y shoot them now after so many years?

      Rudie - 2012-03-20 10:53

      I am just thinking that the biological father could be very close to home .

      Elize - 2012-03-20 11:19

      Must say I also smell a rat

      Dries - 2012-03-20 11:51

      sies Rudie skaam jou om se lelek van jou Ma te praat

  • Philip - 2012-03-20 10:18

    Again this is where the Death penalty is needed!

      Dylan - 2012-03-20 11:03

      It should never be up to governments, courts and judges to decide the value of a life. Life in an SA prison is worse than death.

  • Thoka - 2012-03-20 10:26

    things parents go through. shocking... wonder what pushed him over the edge

  • JJ - 2012-03-20 10:30

    Wait a second...something doesn't add up here

  • Khomotso - 2012-03-20 10:37

    May their souls RIP. I hope they lock him up and throw away the key

  • Tanie - 2012-03-20 10:37

    That's how one behave if they have never fathered their own.

  • Hepi - 2012-03-20 10:39 we go again.......let him get a life sentence....

  • Johan - 2012-03-20 10:43

    There are many Pretoria residents unemployed due to BEE and this causes presure on families!

      dumisiledee - 2012-03-20 10:51

      There you go talking shait!! you're now blaming BEE for filthy scum who go killing their families? Johan come on, you're no better than the blacks who still blames apartheid for robbing, raping and killing innocent people.

      Napolita - 2012-03-20 10:52

      Pressure to not allow someone to know their biological parent(s)!?! This BEE must be terrible indeed.

      makatika - 2012-03-20 10:55

      @Johan is not BEE just some lazy guys who don't want to work but smoke drugs, I see them everyday on Skinner and Andries Str asking for R2. Yesterday I gave one of them popcorns

      Moi - 2012-03-20 11:11

      What a daft comment to make. I know of numerous people that have been/are unemployed and under immense pressure and none of them have resorted to murder.

      Marion - 2012-03-20 11:12

      @Johan - If you can blame BEE for violence of this nature, I can blame men for it because it is probably fair to say that 99% of violence in SA is perpetrated by men.

      Elize - 2012-03-20 11:21

      Johan what a load of crap, what about all the people living in squatter camps under those terrible conditions?? There are a lot of people that has much bigger problems that unemployment!

      nanasei.kobbina - 2012-03-20 11:39

      Unemployment affect everyone, so dont come with this crap here@Johan, grow up, tltltltl

      greeff.kotze - 2012-03-20 11:41

      If unemployment was a valid excuse for murder, South Africa wouldn't have any unemployment - there would be so many dead that companies would be begging people to work for them. What, then, about all the people on the other side of the coin, that STILL can't find employment (and haven't been able to for decades) even though they are (supposedly) advantaged by BEE? Is their lack of opportunities any less of a national tragedy?

      Regan - 2012-03-20 12:40

      there are alot of unemployed people in south africa. idiot!

  • makatika - 2012-03-20 10:44

    At 42 you are more of a Man than a Son, I am sure he does not need permission to seek his biological parents. Why on earth is he not having his house, wife. If he was not spoon fed and wanting everything to be done for him, he would have learned survival skills already, men at the age of 17 must be able survive any storm. Guys of his are already bread-winners.

      Moi - 2012-03-20 11:14

      You are making many assumptions. Where in the article does it say that the 42 year old still lived with his parents? Where does it say that he was seeking permission to look for his biological parents? Very brave to pass judgement on someone who is not around to defend himself.

      Marion - 2012-03-20 11:14

      @makatika - you should know all about extended families living in the same home due to unemployment etc., There are many reasons why an adult could be living at home. I think I understand where you're coming from, but I think your comment is a bit naive.

      makatika - 2012-03-20 11:28

      @Moi1980 do really want everything to be spelled out for you. @Marion Trust me as a man I want respect and want to lay some rules, and you can't do that in your father's house. I would rather live in a shack, and sleep on the floor and hungry than to live in my parent's place at the age of 42. There is no excuse unless you saying the Guy is physically challenged, and does not have anyone to take of himself and if that is the reason I will understand and can not really blame him

      Moi - 2012-03-20 12:22

      @makatika - do you not visit your parents home after you have moved out? Or would that also make you "spoon fed"? Or perhaps he no longer lives in the Pretoria area and was therefore staying in his parents home for a visit. It seems that you are the one that needs to have things spelled out for you. You are passing judgment on a (dead) man when you actually know absolutely nothing about him.

      Lindiwe Skosana - 2012-03-20 18:01

      How on earth do you know all this stuff Makatika?? This is the first time you've heard of this man and you've managed to come to all sorts of conclusions!

  • Hendrik - 2012-03-20 10:49

    Remeber this "Suicide or homicide is a long term solution for a short term problem"

      Marion - 2012-03-20 10:53

      Well said Hendrik.

      Rudie - 2012-03-20 10:57

      But still they do it .

      Andrew Seabela - 2012-03-20 11:10

      its terrible but in todays life people dont want to face reality that if find a soul mate with kids and you agree to marry that person you already made a decision to love them both,DONT LET A LITTLE DISPUTE INJURE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP

      Elize - 2012-03-20 11:23

      Not for the people he leaves behind!

      nanasei.kobbina - 2012-03-20 11:44

      @Hendrik I wish I got your point, what is the long-term solution? "solution being an emphasis of matter? am lost

      Marion - 2012-03-20 11:59

      @Nanasei - The long term solution is that there are no more problems after death therefore death is the solution to the problem. The short term problem is something that could have been solved in life, maybe over a period of days, weeks or months, but could have been solved. (Think I've explained it the way Hendrik intended it and as I understand it.)

  • Evon - 2012-03-20 10:54

    Internet is such a powerful portal. I wonder if it is not contributing to the problem. People read these atrocities on internet and newspapers and it spark the flame of "fame."

  • Bambanani - 2012-03-20 11:07

    another monster,following the modimella monster.

  • Gavin - 2012-03-20 12:03

    In SA option 1 = kill everyone in sight, option B = suicide, option C = abortion option D = ask for help. At the rate we're going, there won't be anyone left to turn off the lights. Maybe a gun free SA is the answer, but that means we'll grab an ax or a kitchen knife, and we'll be vulnerable to criminal attacks. We need to get the word out - death is not the answer, talking is.

  • Gemma-Leigh Evans - 2012-03-20 12:38

    When you take on the responsibility of adopting a child, you HAVE to keep in mind one very important thing. That child is not your biological offspring and once he/she is made aware of this, they will undoubtedly want to know where they come from. It's not to say they don't love you as parents, but a person does not know where they are going until they know where they came from. There are a lot of questions that they have that leave them with a sense of rejection from their birth parents and sometimes finding the answers helps them to find can't kill them for wanting to know more about their origins. This is a very sad story...and quite frankly I think the man deserves to rot in jail. What an outright waste!!!

  • kobie.nel1 - 2012-03-20 13:41

    @ Marion. Must say it is nice to read a "thinking" comment here, and you very probably have a point. Then on the other hand we must look at the age of most of the killers and we will see that most of them are to young to have experienced that tim,e and its violence. In this case it may be a factor, but have a look at the farm murders and the killers in that cases. Also the cases were young ones like the one yesterday that cut his grandma in a wheelchairs throat. I was a border boy with action experience, and maybe do have a bit of PTSD, but that do NOT make me a killer. What will make me a killer is the 10 family and friends that were murdered since 1994 by young dark people.

  • paul.prinsloo3 - 2012-03-20 13:42

    So unnecessary!

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