News24

Man leaves car at airport for a year

2013-01-07 10:08

Johannesburg - A businessman owes OR Tambo International Airport about R42 000 for parking his car there for over 12 months, The Star reported on Monday.

Desmond Grootboom, a businessman who lives in both Johannesburg and Cape Town, left his blue Renault Clio at the airport on 8 November 2011 and gave his friend the car keys and the parking ticket.

However, his friend lost the ticket and did not inform Grootboom.

"I never checked with him," he told the newspaper.

The car then remained at the airport's undercover parking lot for 14 months.

Based on the airport's current price of R100 for the first 24 hours and R50 for every 12 hours thereafter, Grootboom owed the Airports Company SA R42 700, The Star reported.

This was higher than the book value of the car, estimated between R20 000 and R40 000.

The licence disc on the vehicle had also expired and a R500 fine had been placed on the car's windscreen.

Comments
  • samuel.lebepe.3 - 2013-01-07 10:32

    tsotsibaby stop whatever you are smoking. Your comment is irrelevant to this article.

      sekalf.nroc - 2013-01-08 08:56

      ha ha ha ,.....Based on the airport's current price of R100 for the first 24 hours and R50 for every 12 hours thereafter.... donkey!

  • HJS - 2013-01-07 10:33

    Mr. Grootboom, clearly not Grootbrain. Where is his "friend" and the car keys now?

      mokgadi.mahloborakgoale - 2013-01-07 11:25

      Clearly not, shame! As for not checking with his friend for 14 months about his car? Shocking!

      rodney.louis.7 - 2013-01-07 13:35

      Mr "Big Tree" most properbly has something to hide .. The police should search the car

      7777santos - 2013-01-07 22:02

      There is a 'cooling' off period for 'hot property'. The airport was used as a 'refrigerator'

      jamie.chennells - 2013-01-08 00:01

      What are you talking about??? Possibly one of the most brilliant stunts of 2012. Cheapest year-long parking you will find, hands down, and completely in the green with respect to 'losing your ticket'. This man is a genius. HJS, his friend burnt the ticket you fool.

      pierre.devilliers.9231 - 2013-01-08 08:54

      Well if the ticket got lost, then surely he parked the car there only last week?! Ok kidding, but if the story checks out, I am sure the airport can make some exception.

  • angelanair3 - 2013-01-07 10:33

    Ha ha - this would be sad if was'nt so funny - did he not miss his car? I cannot believe you can forget you own a car and its missing for 14 months? Unless you own a fleet of cars? Now the question is - are they still friends? And will the friend offer to pay part of the parking costs? I wonder? Licence expired, parking costs more than the value of the car? I would say a man and his friends have problems............

  • Prudence Molefe - 2013-01-07 10:33

    @Tsotsibaby, thanks for an irrelevant comment. i find this funny thanks news24 at least we dont read only about rape n all ada sad stories , :-)

      sazi.radebe - 2013-01-07 10:41

      It just shows the level of IQ some dumb South Africans have compared to the rest of the world

      bruning.vankriekenbeeck.7 - 2013-01-08 08:34

      In most western countries an iq of 70 qualifies as handicapped/retarded...

  • tshepo.mogamisi - 2013-01-07 10:36

    Maybe he must just leave it there and hand over ownership to ACSA

  • kiran.jagmohan - 2013-01-07 10:44

    Lol. True story.

  • Duane Morris - 2013-01-07 10:51

    the airport should give the poor guy a break. and show good will, wich we have the lack of now days

      joe.soapie.73 - 2013-01-07 14:59

      Why? That's a parking space has been unused for 14 months. That one parking bay could very well have brought more in revenue that the 42k that is now owed. Example: You have an apartment building. In it are 10 apartments, each paying R5,000.00 a month. That's R50,000.00 a month in revenue. However, applying the same rules as the Airport Parking (that is parking based on length of stay not on a monthly basis), only 9 of those apartments are being paid for. So that's R45,000.00 in revenue and R5,000.00 in loss per month. Fast forward 14 months, R50,000.00 x 14 = R700,000.00 vs R45,000.00 x 14 = R630,000.00 or R70,000.00 in lost revenue. If you get that money back, then fine no loss. But if you give the tenant a break for not paying the rent, then you are down R70,000.00. Make sense? Just like the rental payment is one's responsibility to pay, so too is the parking bay cost. Would you, as a landlord, let your tenant get away with R70,000.00 in unpaid tenancy simple because "he didn't know?" I don't think you would, :)

      clive.pops.5 - 2013-01-07 15:48

      Why Joe? Because of the circumstances, and as Duane points out, there is so little goodwill around. :) I think we all understand the math..

      jay.kganyago.5 - 2013-01-07 17:11

      @joe.soapie.73 No revenue was collected for that spot for a year. If the airport really missed that income, they should have had the car towed. The landlord analogy is a poor one, because it would be the same as letting someone stay rent-free on your property for over a year, and then suddenly demanding back-rent. Is there any evidence the airport even attempted to collect the money owed after one month? After two months? Also, no reasonable person expects that a parking arrangement in such a facility is intended to be a long-term arrangement. It should be obvious it was a mistake. A reasonable person expects a tenant living on a landlord's property to be a long-term arrangement. Your math is also wrong because it assumes all parking bays are always full. False. Most of the time some parking bays are empty so the true opportunity cost to the airport covers only situations in which they have literally run out of parking entirely, which almost never happens.

      joe.soapie.73 - 2013-01-07 20:10

      // @joe.soapie.73 No revenue was collected for that spot for a year. If the airport really missed that income, they should have had the car towed. // The cars can park there for as long as they like, but the owner of the vehicle is required to pay for the use of the parking. // The landlord analogy is a poor one, // I am aware of that, but it was the best I could come up with at the time. :P // because it would be the same as letting someone stay rent-free on your property for over a year, and then suddenly demanding back-rent.// No, I included the phrase: "applying the same rules as the Airport Parking (that is parking based on length of stay not on a monthly basis)" which meant that in this scenario rent is only paid after you moved out for the period which you were renting the apartment.So no, it wouldn't be the same. // Is there any evidence the airport even attempted to collect the money owed after one month? After two months? // There is no limit to how long you can park your car there. The airport doesn't mind, it just expects you to pay for the use of it's parking facility. How long you've been there is your problem. Not theirs.

      joe.soapie.73 - 2013-01-07 20:10

      // Also, no reasonable person expects that a parking arrangement in such a facility is intended to be a long-term arrangement. It should be obvious it was a mistake. // Discarding the fact that ORT supports long-term (or holiday) parking; so what if it was a mistake? It was the mistake of the owner of the vehicle and of his friend. The owner is liable for the amount to be paid; it's not the airports responsibility to go running around monitoring the length of stay of every single vehicle currently in their facility. // A reasonable person expects a tenant living on a landlord's property to be a long-term arrangement. // As I said already in my prior comment, if apartment renting was on the same field as parking bay renting, that is, you pay for the duration that you occupied the space. Then yes, the tenant would be liable for the durtion of the stay he was there - irrespective of whether or not he knew about it (as with the care). He signed the agreement (or picked up a parking ticket) and agreed to pay in full the cost of using the apartment (or parking facility). // Your math is also wrong because it assumes all parking bays are always full. Most of the time some parking bays are empty so the true opportunity cost to the airport covers only situations in which they have literally run out of parking entirely, which almost never happens.// Would it have helped if I had used the words "potential loss in revenue?"

      joe.soapie.73 - 2013-01-07 20:24

      clive.pops.5 : What circumstances? That he forgot about his car and didn't bother to enquire about it for 14 months? That his friend was a douche and didn't bother let the owner know about the car? These are all valid circumstances I'll admit, but hardly the concern of the airport. Why must the airport suffer loss of revenue for the failings of others? That's my point (even after that convoluted analogy I made, lol).

  • Eterni80 - 2013-01-07 10:54

    this must be how SAA plans to repay the R550 million they borrowed to pay for fuel - http://business.iafrica.com/news/835125.html

      tsietsi.gagai - 2013-01-07 11:07

      The airport parking does not belong to SAA but to ACSA! Check yo facts b4 u comment.

      khumbudzo.budeli - 2013-01-07 14:20

      Wh@ the f... does SAA have t do with this now???????

  • rudzanimulaudzi.mulaudzi - 2013-01-07 10:56

    Let the airport sell the car because it seems to me both Mr Grootboom and his friend they don't need the car.

  • napolita.kio - 2013-01-07 11:02

    So in TWO years he never asked about the car??

      derek.smith.12177276 - 2013-01-07 12:57

      no Mr Grootboom has a very ...very....very big problem with his memory ....

  • nyikamn - 2013-01-07 11:05

    Why not donate the car to spca , infact I remember some guy from capetown gave away a 2million car to some parking attendants. Just give away the car man . Car value 40 000 fine 41 000 if he pays the fine and later sells the car he will run a loss of about a 1000 bucks

      freddie.miff - 2013-01-07 12:32

      Yes, then he took swan dive off Table Mountain a few months later...

  • maria.kave.5 - 2013-01-07 11:31

    The Tsotsibabe is still drunk

  • christo.cilliers - 2013-01-07 11:32

    Some business man this guy! Glad I dont transact with him!

  • jacques.devilliers.16 - 2013-01-07 11:43

    With a friend like his, you really dont need enemies!

  • sandile.fakude - 2013-01-07 11:46

    Tsotsi maybe you need to change the brand of socks that you're smoking!

  • tim.mthimkhulu - 2013-01-07 12:17

    the owner of the car is a businessman, this is nothing to him. pay up dude. what was he thinking if he didnt see his car for 12 months?

      phosa.peter2 - 2013-01-07 13:28

      He did nt know he own Renault clio,he used to drive Big Wheels not a wheelbarow they are talking about.

      Deon - 2013-01-07 14:11

      He is most probably a bad businessman raking up this big bill for parking. Not many people can be like the "big boss" having your income only 50% of your monthly expenses. I wonder if Mr Grootboom was not perhaps a guest of one of our jails for a year?

  • mike.bundy.73 - 2013-01-07 12:18

    Surely he can't be fined for an expired disc if he is off the public road and in paid parking? These metros are just too lazy to get out and issue fines for real crimes.

  • cedrick.martin - 2013-01-07 12:24

    I think the car is stolen

      joe.soapie.73 - 2013-01-07 15:40

      Steal a car. Leave it in OR. Thambo Parking for 14 months. Sorry, I'm not seeing the upside to this idea, lol.

  • derek.smith.12177276 - 2013-01-07 12:53

    poor Desmond Grootfine.....

  • umehluli - 2013-01-07 12:59

    Man clearly doesn't need the car.

  • umehluli - 2013-01-07 12:59

    Man clearly doesn't need the car.

  • mmoledis - 2013-01-07 13:00

    As that was a mistake and not a deliberate action,the owner of that car knew the car is not there was taken away so because the airport company knows now what happened then they should at least be lenient to the owner and allow him to pay 5000 and get his car back. That is what friends are for,some friends are only there for their own interests and care less about their friends they just want good things from friends only but to offer help back is what they do not want to see themselves doing,so wake up people get friends who are really friends and not scavengers.

  • chris.kleynhans - 2013-01-07 13:59

    I just wonder how the fine for the expired license works?! If a car is not on a public road and in this case we assume that it is on private property that belongs to a private company called ACSA, how can it get a fine? My assumption is that you will get a fine if your vehicle is used on the public roads with an expired or non-valid license. Wonder if somebody in the legal profession may give us clarity on that?

      Sherman Amos - 2013-01-07 14:11

      Regulation 18 of the National Road Traffic Regulations 2000 states that every motor in the Republic shall whether or not it is operated on a public road be licensed

      rdeacon - 2013-01-07 14:44

      cops can issue fines in shopping centres, at airports, in your complex... wherever they like...

      chris.kleynhans - 2013-01-07 15:22

      It may be in the law but it is definitely not very just, is it. If I am a collector and my cars remains in my lounge, this should surely not apply. I would love to use the word 'Unconstitutional' but wouldn't know if it is off the cuff. Wonder who writes laws like these?

      joe.soapie.73 - 2013-01-07 15:36

      Unfortunately that's the way it works. You must have a TV license, even if you don't use your TV as a TV. Like me for example, it's connected to my computer and XBox - not a TV aerial or DSTV connection in sight but I wouldn't be allowed to buy the TV without a license - fair? Nope.

  • phiwa.tambo - 2013-01-07 14:42

    1. So Mr Grootboom didnt ask the friend about the car afterwards, strange. 2. He has a car staying in Joburg but he hadnt been back in Joburg in over a year, then why does he even have a car in Joburg? 3.

  • bronwyn.yarr - 2013-01-07 14:59

    Why was the car not impounded???

      joe.soapie.73 - 2013-01-07 15:34

      It wasn't parked illegally; the owner has every right to keep it there as long as he likes .. he just needs to pay for the length of time the car has been there. :)

  • valerie.hancock.102 - 2013-01-07 15:41

    Some friend! As the sea-cucumber said to his anemone friend : with fronds like these, who needs anemones?

  • byron.jay.37 - 2013-01-07 15:52

    Hahaha. Talk about an extended vacation, for the car that is...

  • zionpercival.pay - 2013-01-07 16:35

    Now this is perfect diversification. SAA is just not capable of working with money. they have just received 5 million (Correct) from the gavamant but now they can open a vehicle parking area and nogal out of the rain.

      jay.kganyago.5 - 2013-01-07 17:18

      SAA don't run the airport, ACSA do.

  • donald.dykman - 2013-01-07 16:45

    hahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahah hahahahahahahahaah help me this is killing me hahahahahahahah

  • richard.zanner - 2013-01-07 17:16

    And just how does this constitute news ?

      patricksva.ncokazi - 2013-01-07 22:42

      This is what we call soft news, just to relax people after so much heard news of December. This is best Jenalizim at its best mfowethu.

  • lindasyl.dlamini - 2013-01-07 17:19

    i need the money 4 school.lol

  • letjiela.tungoane - 2013-01-07 17:43

    clearly they nomore friends,whats da value of that Renault Clio now?

  • mukurisi.nyavani - 2013-01-07 18:27

    Both Those guys r not serious,de owner does not call or check on his car if their is any problem n de frnd does not report the lost ticket to his frnd,how strange.

  • mukurisi.nyavani - 2013-01-07 18:28

    Both Those guys r not serious,de owner does not call or check on his car if their is any problem n de frnd does not report the lost ticket to his frnd,how strange.

  • justa.minority - 2013-01-07 19:42

    Nice friend

  • pamela.g.quinton - 2013-01-07 19:47

    Does he live in South Africa? OT ofcourse.HEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHAAaaaaaaaa so funny

  • kendrick.dumebi - 2013-01-07 21:35

    The cost of maintaining that car is high, i think he has suffered enough and doesn’t know how to let go of it.

  • jambles.charton - 2013-01-07 21:55

    He should have just driven in with a different car and used that parking ticket to get out... Then claim a lost ticket for the car he just drove in... Some people just don't think these things through....

  • Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-07 22:24

    This is exactly an example of why a resource based economy is the way to go!

  • phorane.thokoane - 2013-01-07 22:37

    Dumb and Dummer....... Dumb: the owner for forgetting about his car for 14 months; just goes to show how much he valued this little car..... Dummer: the friend for loosing the ticket, not going to fetch the car and not telling the owner...... Dumbest: the two of them for not talking about the car for 14 whole months...... They really are dumb.....

  • tiaan.vanderberg.75 - 2013-01-07 22:40

    OR Tambo is ridiculous with its parking rates. its bloody daylight robbery. a week ago I had to pay R 60 for an hour and 30 minutes.

  • phil.parsons1 - 2013-01-08 05:53

    1) Why didn't he just enter the parking lot with another car. 2) Use that parking ticket to exit with the car that has been there for a year. 3) Go to the authorities and say he has lost the ticket for the car he recently entered the parking lot with. 4) They will look at the cameras to confirm his arrival time and possibly a few hundred bucks for a lost ticket. 5) Easy........ I only charge 10% of the original charge for the advice :-)

      Jammmmmmy - 2013-01-08 06:56

      all tickets have serial numbers, acsa was gonna know that ticket has been used to go out, if that can be investigated and you are caught. fraud charges

      lifenyakane - 2013-01-08 07:19

      y de management ddnt confirm it before 12 months de were planning to make profit out of it,cz de a allowed to contact licensed departments n check with dem who's car belonging to n contact de person to find out.

  • motleleng - 2013-01-08 06:31

    Non Profit Organization SAA should use the parking fee to pay back our R550m bail out, this corrupt f#ckers are making millions with parking fees..

  • motleleng - 2013-01-08 06:35

    Based on the airport's current price of R100 for the first 24 hours and R50 for every 12 hours thereafter, who the hell came up with calculations?

  • sharonjane.rodger - 2013-01-08 07:41

    what a chop!!!

  • cobus.booysen.3 - 2013-01-08 07:56

    Business man??? I don't think so.

  • bruning.vankriekenbeeck.7 - 2013-01-08 08:39

    How can he live in Cape Town AND Johannesburg and not visit one for 14 months?

  • wessel.jordaan.3 - 2013-01-08 08:58

    @bruning..useless statement, this is Africa!

  • pages:
  • 1