Mandela: Journo forced into military police van

2012-02-25 14:50

Pretoria - The media was asked to leave Thaba Tshwane complex in Pretoria on Saturday where One Military hospital is situated.

Several journalists and photographers had gathered there following news that former president Nelson Mandela had been hospitalised on Saturday morning.

The Presidency did not make the name of the hospital public.

First, journalists were asked to leave the hospital premises. A photographer was picked up and forced into a military police van for taking a picture of the hospital building.

Beeld's Theana Breugem was told to delete her pictures, which she did. She was then released.

Journalists were then told by military officials to move to the Heartfelt Ministries, a nearby church, which had given permission for the media to park there.

But at about 13:30, a military police sergeant, who did not want to give his name, ordered journalists to leave the Thaba Tshwane complex.

  • cosmos.ndebele - 2012-02-25 14:56

    Here we go again, people on roof tops trying to be the first with that picture. Try taking photos at Walter Reed in Washington DC & u will be picked up within seconds.

      Desmond - 2012-02-25 15:21

      Whats wrong. Is his grandson Mandla the only one allowed to make money out of him. Rubbish.

      cosmos.ndebele - 2012-02-25 15:53

      I dont care who makes money on who, but the truth of the matter is; military installations around the world ar not places to run around with yr camera. That includes the so called western democracies US, UK, FRANCE, GERMANY etc. The tendency in this country is overeaction from the smallest of things.

      John - 2012-02-25 16:15

      Cosmos, What kind of crap is that? Go and check pictures of Walter Reed Hospital on internet...Maybe those pictures are taken from Girafes or Elephants? Moron

      cosmos.ndebele - 2012-02-25 16:22

      John Go & take photos while a US president or ex is admitted at Walter Reed, then prove to people how far you will go? Moron

      John - 2012-02-25 17:32

      Cosmos.....this is another idiotic apperance of yours You got my applauses.In situation like that SOMWHERE THERE is a procedure and statements/pictures to press are well regulated. Don't try to make an analogy in this situation. If you haven't seen a polar bear that doesn't mean that is non-existent. Media needs to do their job and IF YOU don't know how to handle MEDIA, don't beat them with chairs like SABC camera man. Im not going to discuss how these procedure works somwhere else... Search "How to" on google. Enjoy the internet...but not everything is there. ...and one last thing Cosmos. In civilised countries you will find many press conferences and picures taken from the hospitals. I reccomend reading of news papers. Close to at Walter Reed Hospital is a library(s). Go and search for Ronald Reagan in index cards. You will find pictures that will satisfy your grievance...If you licky you might find them on internet also.

      John - 2012-02-25 17:40

      Your Lucky day Cosmos...There are How To's

      cosmos.ndebele - 2012-02-26 14:35

      In CIVILIZED countries? I wont waste my time engaging a fool like you.

  • jaap.kotze - 2012-02-25 14:57

    Military, militarypolice, f Such a lot of ''important'' fools. Tsk-tsik How important!? Tsk-tsk!

  • gary.dasilva - 2012-02-25 14:59

    If there is nothing to hide - then why the Nazi, Gestapo, Apartheid Military Dictatorship reaction?????????????????????

  • IAnon - 2012-02-25 15:04

    Are these the Shadows of things to come -

  • Shirley - 2012-02-25 15:10

    This sounds like a Mugabe move! Realy not called for!We are not living in a dictatorship.[or are we?]

  • Terence - 2012-02-25 15:11

    A Military Hospital is just as much a Military Instalation as say a Military Airfield. The same rules apply with regards to photography in a "classified area." The journalist should have known better.

      John - 2012-02-25 20:19

      Terence...enjoy. My comment to you was removed from news24

  • Suretha - 2012-02-25 15:23

    Please leave Mr. Mandela in peace in order to regain his health, if there is anything the world should know, they will know it as soon as possible. Believe me,he is only in the hospital, if it is serious you will know about it. NOBODY will keep it from his nation and people. Give him some privacy together with his family. If something happen you will know about it!! His Family will NOT keep it from the world.

      tshegofatso.setilo - 2012-02-25 15:54

      Suretha I agree with you 100%. The media needs to let Tata to have some privacy, if there is anything we need to know, then we will be told. He is a human being afterall and he is entitled to some privacy as well.

      John - 2012-02-25 16:58

      MEDIA was the one that made Mandela over the borders of South Africa. Now that MEDIA is bad for you. Lessons from abroad Call the Jurnalist off-site the entrance of the hospital or sutable place nearby. Pay 10-15 min attention to them. Let them take Pictures and whoever makes the statement let him face the hospital if you don't want press to picture the famous military object. I don't need to explain how you need to take picture also It's simple...not that difficult matter as such to be handle. will be at places as such and for people as such. They didnt come to picture the security guard there. Have your procedures how to handle press and media. Only thing so far is to beat and detain. But this is for civilised countries. South Africa always has own way.

  • andre.terblanche - 2012-02-25 15:36

    Very unfortunately the comments below just indicate that news24 continuous to be largely - but not exclusively - perused by racist imbeciles that have no concept of humanity, decency or for that matter common sense. No problem: die in the discomfort of your hatred-filled minds, beer-swelled stomachs, brandy-destroyed livers. The quicker, the better: you're stupid beyond belief.

      Shirley - 2012-02-25 15:42

      Are you always this pleasant or have we caught you on a good day? Be careful whom you accuse of racist comments when you are spouting such pleasantries!

      IAnon - 2012-02-25 15:47

      Looks like you have no concept of humanity either since you indicate that everyone should die in discomfort.

      Gerald - 2012-02-26 07:45

      @ IAnon Eh actually he didn't say everyone must die in discomfort. Just the racists. Are you having a problem with his wish?

  • Terence - 2012-02-25 15:47

    @ John. Suggest you take a few lessons in spelling before you attempt to enter the forum. What journalists shaving their legs has got to do with it is beyond me, try a little more water with it next time. Incidentally if you want to converse at least have the decency not to hide behind silly little pictures and non-de-plumes.

      John - 2012-02-25 16:41

      Spell this..... Your ignorance on this subject is pathetic. My Personal Pictures on Facebook are not "Demilitarized Zone" for public and especialy for you. Decent convers may occur if your level of expertise is high enough to counterfight different opinions. "Nom de plumes" - Pseudonym is a French word and is not spelled "non-de-plumes",but dont worry. I know what you meant.

  • acsteyn - 2012-02-25 15:48

    Look unless these guys know something we don't, then I really think this being paranoid. By the same token, have these journo's got nothing more important to do than hoping to catch the scoop on some tradegy? My Guess is the latter and people are getting a little tedious of them. Ask all Celebs, they would expound the same view, I am sure.

      Shirley - 2012-02-25 16:06

      But we are now commenting on that very news which a journalist obtained! Being Nelson Mandela in question there would obviously be a huge interest. I agree that journos take it too far but there is no need for military interference!

  • rory.short1 - 2012-02-25 15:57

    We are sliding towards replicating some of the worst characteristics of the Apartheid regime.

  • Bra.Tiger - 2012-02-25 15:59

    lock the lot of them up, we need more stringent enforcement of the law because a certain segment of the population is drunk on too many rights and freedom_going beyond being liberal instead they are trying to create a state of anarchy

      Shirley - 2012-02-25 16:07


      IAnon - 2012-02-25 16:29

      Perhaps the one that should be locked up is you Bra.Tiger - in a Zoo.

      Thandiwe - 2012-02-25 16:59

      Hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahahaaaaaaaaaa, yeah, lets go backward, lets get a police state, lets go to the dark ages, lets go Zimbabwestyle!!!..... You won't have a computer then bra, just constant fear.....

  • rene.smit2 - 2012-02-25 16:13

    the journalists are doing their job and yes you can expect this reaction,... the man is a LEGEND

      arthurbrigg - 2012-02-25 16:21

      Like two sides of a coin, the military are doing their job as are the journo's. He is a legend but his privacy as a human being should also be respected.

  • Phiwo Gasa - 2012-02-25 16:39

    Is none of anyones f-ing business

      John - 2012-02-25 22:23

      Phiwo, We are so fortunate that Mandela didn't had that kind of attitude like yours.

  • Masocha Nthane - 2012-02-25 17:34

    some people just love drama period!!! WHICH CIVILIAN GOES IN2 MILITARY ANYTHING BE IT BARACKS, HOSPITAL, CAMP OR THQ. The army is governed by rules the jurnos should know better and IS NEWS24 A PLATFORM FOR RACISM COZ IF IT IS THEN IT SHOULD BE scrapped.

      John - 2012-02-25 18:49

      Masocha, Masocha When drama period is starting? Army is a dangerous thing. Suppa comandos that beatin jurnos.....Eish Wena. Let me explain something about platforms. Have you seen a truck specialy designed for transporting bananas and another one for apples? No...there is no such a thing. Now picture that: Bananas and Apples are loaded into the truck together. Driver hits the brakes hard becouse was sleeping didnt pay enough attention on the road. At the back all Bananas and Apples become on Tuti Fruty...or called jam. You and me Masocha are the fruts at the back, presidency is the driver. If track is called Ford or News24.....that doesn't matter.

  • retha.dutoit - 2012-02-25 18:06

    Police state? Scary!

  • Syd - 2012-02-25 18:14

    Mr. Mandela is in no. 1 military hospital WHICH IS A MILITARY ZONE BOZOS.

  • Suretha - 2012-02-25 19:39

    John, you are so wrong, it was not the media alone that made Mandela, he got it in him since he was born, he is that kind of man. Outstanding! above others. I did NOT say Media is bad, I only state that we will know if something happen with Mr. Mandela, give him his privacy, is that so much to ask? O my dear you have so much to learn about life.

      John - 2012-02-25 22:13

      Your Words "It was not the MEDIA alone that made Mandela" My Words MEDIA was the one that made Mandela over the borders of South Africa. Please read again....

  • Tony - 2012-02-25 19:47

    Useless swines ... Not the journalists .. The other lot....

  • Michael Kleber - 2012-02-25 21:53

    i understand it a military hospital what is a photo going to do ? it has been there for years its not some top secret military installation , some people take themselves too seriously , the only reason they are there is to report on Madiba it is world news , but this heavy handed action by the MP is uncalled for maybe he was enjoying his position of power and bra tiger is right there is too much freedom for the people in power they lack in skills with dealing with law abiding citizens

  • Matanje - 2012-02-26 09:45

    We cannot leave him alone, Babe. He affected all our lives from the 1940s till today. Our South African freedom is a sham because of Nelson Mandela. How did ANC Youth League Founder die from poisoning when he was in the midst of all those happenings in 40s? How did ANC Founder himself, Pixley ka Isaka Seme, at least according to some members of his family, also die through poisoning with Mandela doing his supercilious rounds in Johannesburg's ANC of the the 40s and the 50s? Is this the reason why he is afraid to die? Knowing that Seme and Lembede are waiting to "bleksem" or beat the lights out of him the moment he shows his double-face in the next world...whether heaven or hell? Please, read a bit,before you privatise public proptery like Mandela!

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