Mandela: Press Club to take up MP's actions

2012-02-26 22:33

Johannesburg - The National Press Club is to meet Defence Minister Lindiwe Sisulu in Pretoria after MPs briefly detained a Beeld photographer at One Military Hospital, where it was thought ex-president Nelson Nandela was being treated. 

By mid-morning on Saturday, news broke that Mandela had been admitted to an undisclosed hospital with a stomach ailment.

This resulted in reporters and photographers rushing from hospital to hospital in Tshwane and Johannesburg trying to locate him.

In Tshwane, Beeld photographer Theana Breugem, who had taken pictures of the One Military Hospital building, was made to delete the pictures after being briefly detained.

Such buildings are assumed to be military key points, with pictures not allowed.

In Johannesburg, journalists were told to vacate the premises of Milpark hospital - where Mandela was treated for a respiratory infection last year.

Press club chair Yusuf Abramjee said he would discuss the treatment of journalists  who were stationed outside One Military with Sisulu on Monday.

He said journalists should be treated with respect and allowed to do their job without fear.

"...I've had an indication from the minister's office that she will be happy to meet a delegation from the NPC and the Foreign Correspondents Association hopefully tomorrow [Monday] to discuss the issue," Abramjee said.

"The media has a job to do....I think there could have been some common ground where the defence force could have said let's try to find a resolution or some compromise."

  • march54 - 2012-02-26 23:08

    Press club should know that taking photos of Military buildings is not permitted. So why all the fuss?

      Piet - 2012-02-26 23:12

      What??? Are they manufacturing nukes in the one mil basement? And with google earth that argument carries no more weight.

      John - 2012-02-27 00:20

      Another Cosmos Ndebele mindset here. Have you guys been together at the same school? You never seen a jurnalist (jurno), camera, video....Komotso Sebetso from SABC 1.......? or maybe you watching only the weather forecast? The "fuss" is that famous military hospital. Do you know how many non-military personel per day are entering this facility? Are they all with ranks and red barets?...... It's very easy to hide behind camo and stupid statements that jurnalists were treatening national security picturing that "military hospital" It's all about Madiba being to hospital and that event was not well managed with media. Take away your military mindset and dream about satellite reconnaissance. Google says hello...

      Marion - 2012-02-27 09:25

      @march54... even I know that so I would expect the press to be even more aware of what is allowed and what is not. This photographer is brain dead in my opinion.

      Jeffrey Mangz Longwe - 2012-02-27 10:15

      @john the more you spell that word wrong 'jurnalist' repeatedly the more i wonder which school you went to

  • Piet - 2012-02-26 23:10

    If you have stuff to hide ne.....

  • Berthram Bowles - 2012-02-26 23:51

    The bloody journalists are like vultures. Absolutely no respect for privacy or life. Only care about if they will be the first to print the story. They are waiting outside these hospitals not to hear if Madiba is okay. They want to be the first to print the story if something goes wrong. Like I always hear: journalists feast on others' tragedies. Pathetic waste of human flesh.

      John - 2012-02-27 03:19

      Dear Bettie, Unfortunately you are not that famous and atractive to be bothered with Beeld fashion news reporters. Try changing hair style and maybe colour. You obviously don't know which media group owns News24 and Beeld. Beeld photographer Theana Breugem is a bit bussy at the moment. I'm sure that she will take some photo shoots of you next time on parade in Cape Town. Just wave high...we want to see you there.

      Burtfred - 2012-02-27 07:50

      @John Did you take your bitch pill this morning?

      Berthram Bowles - 2012-02-27 08:53

      Dear John... I'm not sure on what drug u are but try and keep ur concentration... I wasn't addressing journalists, so u need not answer. Kthanxg-bye

      John - 2012-02-27 08:59

      @Burtfred Hahaha...I feel somtimes that I have packet of those (honestly). I'm not suprised that News24 takes some of my posts away, but I'm realy loosing it on ignorant comments. I like different points and opinions. I'm far from the feeling that mine is the best....but Burtfred, I can't stand when someone without knowledege on subject makes an "honorable" statement. I'll try not to take those pills....and everyone please accept my apologies if I've been rude. Was opinion on the subject only.

      John - 2012-02-27 09:10

      @Berthram The strongest was Panado and GrandPa in my life. Apologies Betty. Jurnalists was not wrong. Maybe thats why I've jumped so hard on this subject. I'm freakin out becouse if we cannot protect the freedom of the press...we will be commenting soon a sport events only. Bye Bettie (Kthanxg is not from my first language :) )

  • Grant - 2012-02-27 02:53

    I'll repeat what I posted yesterday : To detain a jounalist and force her to delete photos is putting SA on the level of Stalinist USSR. Why the obcession with secrecy and security anyhow. We all know that Mandela can't go on for much longer, even his grandson received an estimated R3 million of taxpayers' money from SABC for the TV rights for the funeral. I believe this deal was what prompted the detention of the reporter. A clear message is being given that only the SABC can have access to the story.

      John - 2012-02-27 04:44

      Watch how those rights of SABC will be keept. I don't know if you seen the concert of Whitney Houston in South Africa and the chaos when she said "Lets My brothers and sisters come in". About obcession with secrecy and security....I can't be more agree with you. Department of defence is seeking where is that jurno Google and his office.

  • BacchusZA - 2012-02-27 05:15

    A free press is vital to the health of any democracy. So is military security, and journalists are bound to abide by the law, same as every other citizen. You have to pass through Military Police checkpoints to get into the area, and there are big signs everywhere at the hospital saying "No cameras" & "No photography", citing under which articles of legislation it's prohibited. It's also hardly esoteric knowledge that military installations forbid photography, and I'm pretty sure it's something that's covered during the course work when you study to become a journalist, so I have a very hard time believing the journalist didn't know she was breaking the law. If you don't like a law, & think it's unjust or wrong, you're welcome to petition to the courts to have it changed. But until then, don't be surprised if you're detained, or prosecuted for breaking it.

      Onke Tshaka - 2012-02-27 07:16

      I couldn't have said it better myself...they always fighting for their rights but don't give a second thought to violating someone else's rights...we can't have stupid journalists jeopardising the security of the country for a story

  • BenR - 2012-02-27 06:10

    Swift action from the National Press Club - well done!

  • BenR - 2012-02-27 06:11

    Swift action from the National Press Club- well done!

  • Robert - 2012-02-27 07:02

    Right, now that Madiba was treated in a government hospital, can the rest of the government use the government hospitals as well.

  • malcolm - 2012-02-27 07:15

    There are laws against taking photographs of military installations. The press should abide by the laws. These laws clearly do not compromise press freedom. The laws logically and reasonably exist in order to protect military installations from becoming targets. I dont believe the reporters were badly treated. They were simply making the reporters delete illegally taken photos.

      John - 2012-02-27 08:28

      Dear Malcolm, Please point that SA law and especialy THE definition of "Military Instalation" in this SA law. The compleate ignorance on this subject is patetic. MILITARY INSTALTIONS ARE: GROUND BASES, NAVI BASES, AIRBASES, ARMORIES,INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES, PRISIONER OF WAR CAMPS, RESEARCH FACILITIES, TRAINING FACILITIES AND OTHERS MILITARY HOSPITALS are under MILITARY MEDICAL FACILITIES and provide health services to both MILITARY AND CIVILIAN patients. Now open your eyes on Geneva Conventions from 1949: "Ambulances, military hospitals, and the personnel, serving with them are TO BE RECOGNIZSED AS NEUTRAL and protected during conflict." Geneva Convention 1949 was signed by South Africa in 1952. MILITARY HOSPITAL cannot be considered as a CLOSED MILITARY INSTALATIONS even on times of PEACE. You cannot claim that this famous hospital is anything else than HOSPITAL.

      Eric Schollar - 2012-02-28 00:24

      Read Burtred's comment, above. You are perhaps a little too concerned about potential invasion of our strategic medical facilities

  • Comrade - 2012-02-27 07:26

    one step closer to Appartheid 2

  • Yolanda - 2012-02-27 07:32

    Our journalists are being treated like paparazzi!

  • SJ - 2012-02-27 07:43

    Typical of a Poppo state when this type fo thing happens.

  • Burtfred - 2012-02-27 07:56

    Here's a picture of 1 Military hospital, freely available on the internet

  • Graham - 2012-02-27 09:42

    Bloody stupid to take photos of military establishments-especially when you are unwanted there in the first place.

      John - 2012-02-27 10:04

      Graham, What is a "military establishments"? Is that a "Military Hospital" that doesn't have a "Fidelity guards", but others?

  • Andre - 2012-02-27 09:53

    The fact is that the once proud 1 Military Hospital has degenerated into a 3 rd rate one. It is no longer a pure military hospital any more as it allows civilians to be treated there as well. The public has the right to know the condition regarding a former president as he is a public figure. The ANC is holding him captive, and not the public. And most importantly, Nelson Mandela is not a god.

  • mmoledis - 2012-02-27 10:57

    We like media as they are our source of information, but on some issues they must also play by the rules of the game, they should respect some peoples privacy and their rules so that also theirs can be respected. Yes! What military police did was right to make that journalist go outside the military hospital as it is not a public area and any one with a camera is not allowed in there to take pictures of the area and hospital itself it is a military institution and is regarded as national key point also it needs protection. We do not want enermies of this country to know each and every coner of our military institutions otherwise it will be of no use to have military to protect this country,let journalist have a line where they stop.Military institutions are not places where everyone should do as he or she wish whether your a 100 years experience journalist or not. No to photographing our countries military institutions for our countries protection sake.

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