Mandela 'asleep' when Zuma visited

2013-06-24 11:23

Johannesburg - Nelson Mandela's condition in a Pretoria hospital remained critical for a second straight day on Monday, as President Jacob Zuma said the former president was "asleep" when he visited him late on Sunday night.

Zuma told at least 60 foreign and South African journalists that doctors are doing everything possible to ensure the 94-year-old's wellbeing and comfort on his 17th day in the hospital.

The president repeated some of the content of a presidential statement issued on Sunday and refused to give any details about Mandela's condition, saying: "I'm not a doctor."

"Madiba is critical in the hospital, and this is the father of democracy. This is the man who fought and sacrificed his life to stay in prison, the longest-serving prisoner in South Africa. He is one of those who has contributed to democracy," Zuma said.

"All of us in the country should accept the fact that Madiba is now old. As he ages, his health will ... trouble him and I think what we need to do as a country is to pray for him."

Zuma, who in the past has given an overly sunny view of Mandela's health, briefly described his visit to the hospital and seeing Mandela.

"It was late, he was already asleep," Zuma said. "And we then had a bit of a discussion with the doctors as well as his wife, Graca Machel, and we left."

Mandela was hospitalised on 8 June for what the government said was a recurring lung infection. This is his fourth hospitalisation since December.

  • Mandy Pepler - 2013-06-24 11:29

    What are YOU doing there Zuma, you fake. Leave the family alone, Mandela wants to rest, not stress.

      Silenta Solly - 2013-06-24 12:02


      DumAss Blackie - 2013-06-24 12:36

      Zuma isn't welcome anywhere - except in jail - where he belongs!

      Simon Ramapuputla - 2013-06-24 13:29

      Sorry, Helen Zille and Maimane cannot visit Mandela becuase they are not ANC. So stop being jelous of Zuma

      Surf City - 2013-06-24 13:34 that what they're calling it now.

  • Payricia Bull - 2013-06-24 11:34

    Deborah Patta reported that Madiba had heard that Zuma was coming and said to the nurses "Tell him to go away ..... tell him I'm sleeping!"

  • José L Mendez - 2013-06-24 11:36

    His in a coma, not opening his eyes for days, its just a matter of time before they unplug the life support machines, I just pary for him, and I wish everyone can stop with this "Mandela show" and give him peace...

  • Lolo Mogale - 2013-06-24 11:37

    I don't think mandela was asleep when he see his enemy arrive jacob he just acted as if he asleeped he doesn't like de guy zuma is a falacy to mandela he think the old men doesn't see what he is doing to this country is just he can't do nothing to dat idiot we are tired of protecting you zuma now we pass motion of no confidance

      Gcinikhaya Ngaleka - 2013-06-24 11:51

      Enemy? what do you mean by that ? Sorry i forgot you are one of those who send senseless comments just to get thumbs up from people of the same ilk like you, white ones in particular.

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-06-24 13:40

      Gcinikhaya Ngaleka. There was no racism here at all until you mentioned whites. Can't you just let go of colour?. Nelson Mandela went to visit Betsie Verwoerd and they drank tea together. That shows you what a big man he was and still is. An example maybe?.

      Motlalepula Matshwe - 2013-06-24 18:15

      lolo sorry to burst your bubble but Madiba loves JZ and stood by him through his troubles ,assisting him financially and giving him counsel.So bugger off with your lies.

      Sbusiso KaNcube - 2013-06-25 09:01

      Nd he even campaigned for him in the previous elections

  • Jeremy Weber - 2013-06-24 11:50

    I dont believe some people's post about Zuma. He is Mandela's friend also a family friend why cant he visit Madiba. Why do people always think the worst like it is only for political gain. He has the right to visit and support his former colleage, friend and the madiba family. I also sure when he visits Madiba he visits as a friend and not as the ANC leader. i am also sure the Madiba family has no issue with him visting. I wonder what sort of post we would read if Mr. Zuma did not vist Madiba. Chill people dont always think the worst.

      Silenta Solly - 2013-06-24 12:05

      Its just trolls trolling

      Richard Scully - 2013-06-24 12:43

      Chill Jeremy, we would rather have Zuma in the bed than Madiba, I think what you re reading is just the general hatred of Zuma by the most of the South African people

      Barbara van der Merwe - 2013-06-24 12:53

      Yeah of course he has the right to visit him, but he doesn't have the right to lie to us about his friend's health? Or is he really that unaware?

      AlexMarshall - 2013-06-24 13:19

      Maybe people comment the way they do because the last time Zuma visited he took an entire camera crew and entourage with him.

      Dr-Mthokozisi Young-money Shongwe - 2013-06-24 13:36

      Barbara and how would you know for sure his lying ?

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-06-24 13:46

      Jeremy Weber. Zuma visits Madiba as head of state and he tells us afterwards about Madiba's condition. A friend visits everyday, even if it is just to comfort the family. Have you seen him do that?.

      Senzo Dlamini - 2013-06-24 16:50

      Good point

  • Israel Levi - 2013-06-24 11:51

    Its cause he dnt want to see the mampara that is butchering our democracy and economy

  • Nobuhle Mtshezi - 2013-06-24 11:56

    the empty vessel make too much noise niyaqhatha qha akhenikhule

  • Israel - 2013-06-24 11:56

    Zuma Mandela is the last person who wants to see your face!!!!

  • Mahlatse Patience - 2013-06-24 11:58

    Why is he going at night?

      Hackers Mc - 2013-06-24 12:12

      hy wil steel

      Bright Mapanga Favour - 2013-06-24 20:57

      Gobane oa loya

  • Robert Dood - 2013-06-24 12:08

    Israel Levi you idiot!!!!

  • Shane Pillay - 2013-06-24 12:13

    Let us all pray: Dear Lord God Almighty, Maker of the Heavens and the Earth, we the people of South Africa bring before you Mr Mandela whom You had know whilst he was still in his mothers womb. We pray that his rest in You to be quick. Please God, we don`t want Mr Mandela in hospital anymore, we want him to be in Your arms, safe and at peace. Mr Mandela we commit your soul to the Lord. Amen.

      DjBas - 2013-06-24 12:46

      Really Shane???? Don't you have something better to do?

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-06-24 13:49

      DjBas. That was uncalled for. Have some respect.

      Hendrik de Villiers - 2013-06-24 15:06

      Ag, boring! Go play with your marbles.

  • Christopher Mark V Lowe - 2013-06-24 12:15

    Keep Zuma away from poor Madiba! The president is a lying thieving shyster. He shouldn't be on the same planet as our beloved Madiba, let alone the same room.

  • Rohin Jadin - 2013-06-24 12:15

    I was listening on the radio, and people were saying how we have a right to know how he's doing, and it made me think - do we really? I would like to know sure, but if he was my father, I would not want the nation and the world speculating about his health and death. I wish the family would have the balls to tell Zuma to F off, because this is a private family matter, and during this time, it's not about politics anymore, it's about somebody's husband, father, grandfather. Leave him be.. let him go in peace.

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-06-24 13:51

      Rohin. You are right. But it is about Mandela and the Rand, I'm afraid.

  • IantheJ - 2013-06-24 12:16

    The patient is critically ill. Who on earth gives access to visitors at 9.30 in the evening. It doesn't matter who the visitor is, it is unacceptable.

      DumAss Blackie - 2013-06-24 12:42

      What do you expect from the buffoon Zuma...? Milking Mandela for every last bit of pre-election publicity he can get before the old man departs...

  • Chreamz George - 2013-06-24 12:16

    Permanently Asleep.

  • Sebina Letlalo - 2013-06-24 12:18

    Mr Mthembu, how long will you remain to utter word which are support to a leadership which has no direction but filled with greedy. It is with much sadness to know that my family elders had to risk their lives, for an ANC which has so much greedy. If you want to know whom I am talking about is, Tom Sebina Letlalo ( ANC spokeperson in exile),Sebina Letlalo ( first ANC member under house arrest and dead still under house arrest. ) This is to mention a few of my family members who died for the freedom which people like yourself and the current leadership think you solely achieved but forgotten the fallen soldiers who lost their life for this democracy. It is with real shame to associate my grandparents with this greedy political party. Thank you, Madiba for not maintaining alleges with poor leadership, I hope God will know that you played your part, you should not be judged for actions like those of your current leadership which causing nightmares for you. I believe this messages will reach the relevant individuals which is meant for!!!!!!!

      Olga Mabaso - 2013-06-24 19:53

      your message also reached likeminded people. thanks for your revelations.

  • Leon Coetzee - 2013-06-24 12:19

    "10:58 - Briefings on funeral arrangements would come from GCIS, says Maharaj." ( ... is there something they're not telling us? he already dead? We just witnessed several military helicopters fly overhead? just asking?

  • Andile Ka Khumalo - 2013-06-24 12:20

    how about FOR ONCE,be reasonable and pray for our ill Hero instead of toking bad about da state man?who is sick here kanti?..eish ai man haw

  • Sebina Letlalo - 2013-06-24 12:20

    Please remember that you wont take your greedily earned wealth to your graves and even those you left it for, that money will remain on earth and you will face your judgement alone.

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-06-24 13:54

      Sebina Letlalo. I have nothing to fear then. Forty yeas in the struggle brought me nothing and the pension I have today, I worked for.

  • Israel Levi - 2013-06-24 12:25

    Double dome syndrom like your boss zuma

  • Erna Westdyk - 2013-06-24 12:30

    Maybe zuma expected Mr Mandela to open his eyes for him specially! I mean, according to reports he has been 'asleep' for days.

  • Richard Scully - 2013-06-24 12:38

    From the man who eats out of the Gupta's dustbins hahahahahahah

  • Pride Pratso Mashark Moyo - 2013-06-24 12:44

    mandela was realy asleep or was in comma

  • DjBas - 2013-06-24 12:49

    This oke zuma just doesn't get the hint! Mandela does not want you near him fool! You are an embarrassment to all he stood for.

  • Al Loots - 2013-06-24 12:51

    If I knew the retard will come visit, I would also be 'sleeping'...

  • Barbara van der Merwe - 2013-06-24 12:51

    I am stunned!! He was asleep???!!! With the contradicting stories like 'up and about', and 'his health will trouble him", after CBS newsbreak we only hear about the ambulance and the heart arrest ... does anybody blame me for thinking we are being lied to???!!!

      Duma Mqwathi - 2013-06-24 13:04

      nope i don't blame you

  • Louis Dawid Kriel - 2013-06-24 12:55

    Zuma you moron, leave Madiba alone for crying out loud!

  • Mashilo Seanego - 2013-06-24 13:00

    He acted asleep because he did not want to see Mr Showerhead, Please Zuma do Him a favour and never visit him again so that he will get better. Your Behavior makes him worse. recently he was getting better but hearing that Zuma will be coming for a visit he now becomes worse. Zuma open your eyes, Cann't you see you are not welcome?

  • Victor Tshikovhele - 2013-06-24 13:09

    True icon.He never built a compound like inkandla.

  • Muzi Khuzwayo - 2013-06-24 13:18

    Wat media doing is selling news in a wrong way where is a respect leave Mandela dont make money with his name I endup hate South this way we enjoy a democracy which Mandela faught for is this the way media say thanks to him

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-06-24 13:56

      Muzi Khuzwayo. If it isn't for the media, you wouldn't even have known Madiba was ill.

  • Khatwo Nenongwe - 2013-06-24 13:20

    What de point of visiting him at night.bcoz everyone at night is asleep.maybe tata was not asleep he just close his eyes bcoz he dnt want to c u MR no 1.

  • Gail Joyce - 2013-06-24 13:22

    I would also pretend to be asleep if you came to visit.

  • Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-06-24 13:33

    He is the father of democracy. He fought to stay in prison and he contributed to democracy. Clearly Maharaj was nowhere near to help Zuma give a sensible answer. I still think we are better off with a bulletin from his doctors.

  • G.I Jane - 2013-06-24 14:09

    Madiba was not asleep.He closed his eyes and pretended to sleep when you Zuma walked in.

  • Ntombi Mabuyandile Mabuya Mtimande - 2013-06-24 14:17

    Good, Zuma was gonna hold Madiba's hand and take a photo like what he did last time, mxx, with that fake smile.

  • G.I Jane - 2013-06-24 14:26

    Zuma,you are a thieving corrupt president and liar.You are a failure.Stay away from hospital.I think his family took his wallet home.

  • Nan Sajini - 2013-06-24 14:27

    Tata didn't want to talk to you he was not asleep

  • Hendrik de Villiers - 2013-06-24 15:02

    He was just faking it. Didn't want to talk to the clown!

  • Miles Willemse - 2013-06-24 15:05

    Lets not forget Mandla Mandela, u said that Madiba will be out soon on Friday, so ever1 is basically lying to us!!!!

      Seanred - 2013-06-24 18:38

      What else is new?

  • Susan Gunning - 2013-06-24 15:21

    lol...he was pretending to sleep

  • Sanet Niksch de Beer - 2013-06-24 15:53

    I would also pretend to be asleep if I knew I had to face satan.

  • Bongani Bongz - 2013-06-24 16:06

    We wish our first democratic president Dr Nelson H. Mandela a speedy recovery.

  • Chris Bester - 2013-06-24 16:21

    Good grief what is ZUmpta doing there???????

  • Olga Mabaso - 2013-06-24 20:16

    thought there was security. you mean the door of the intensive care in cardio hosp is wide open?

  • Aniel Poolaraj - 2013-06-24 21:49

    ZZzzzzzomeeeeer shud b in mandelas place n vice versa idiot,mshinwaaaaam bols

  • Saba Othembele - 2013-06-24 22:20

    he z too old let us accpt dat nd on ma side i dnt mind even f God cn take him

  • Thabang Tshepiso Ledwaba - 2013-06-25 08:11

    Dammit even madiba doesn't wana see zuma

  • Elmarie Viljoen Neff - 2013-06-26 21:09

    I would also be asleep!! How can anyone want to listen to Zuma??

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