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Mandela's remains to be paraded through Pretoria

2013-12-07 12:27

Johannesburg - The remains of former president Nelson Mandela will be paraded through the streets of Pretoria on the days he lies in state at the Union Buildings, the government said on Saturday.

"Every morning, when the remains leave the mortuary to the lying in state, those routes will be made public," GCIS chief director Neo Momodu told reporters in Johannesburg.

"We are going to be encouraging members of the public to be lining the streets... as [the body]... goes through the streets of Pretoria to the Union Buildings."

Mandela's remains will lie in state at the Union Buildings from Wednesday to Friday.

Momodu said access to the lying in state would be controlled.

"My mom is not going to wake up in the morning [for example] and say, 'Let me go to the Union Buildings'. Everybody, even the ordinary member off the street, will need to be... accredited," she said.

"They will park somewhere. They will get on a bus that will be driven and controlled. It is not a free-for-all."

She said cameras would not be allowed on the bus.

Mandela died at his home in Houghton, Johannesburg, on Thursday.

A memorial service will be held at FNB Stadium in Johannesburg on Tuesday, and he will be buried in Qunu, in the Eastern Cape, where he grew up, next Sunday.


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Comments
  • Chris T Isaacs - 2013-12-07 12:39

    What remains r u talking about News24?

      RabbleRouser - 2013-12-07 12:50

      They have got their terminology wrong. Remains usually applies after a cremation or some other action. At the moment his body is still intact. So he it could be referred to as a corpse. Or, more euphemistically, just make reference to his body.

      Scouter Four-One - 2013-12-07 13:10

      His body should remain Laying in State for the duration as is standard protocol worldwide - not carted backwards & forward for cheap political gain ....

      Lesula Lomani - 2013-12-07 13:11

      they should parade the 'remains' on the toll road...............

      Thuto Moloi - 2013-12-07 14:17

      "Mandela's remains to be paraded through Pretoria" This whole statement is trying to make a joke of the whole situations.. News24 WTF?

      Peter Woods - 2013-12-07 19:18

      Journalistic skills in question here, news 24,come on now, is this a 30% pass mark employee ?

      Mcool McKwanazi - 2013-12-08 08:07

      Chris. Your question doesnt make sense, the use of the word "remains" is correct because his flesh remains on earth whilst Nelson Mandela has already joined the Angels.

      Bruce Gatland - 2013-12-08 08:12

      I hope the hearse doesn't get hijacked. Or break down. Or run out of petrol. Does the hearse have blue lights?

      Lionel Potgieter - 2013-12-08 08:45

      Can they not just put Madiba's body in a glass coffin and put a camera on it so every one can see it on big screen somewhere else why parade the body up and down the streets? Have they thought of decomposing it is summer now?

      Clint Warren - 2013-12-08 10:26

      This is what happens when you have Afrikaans speakers writing English articles.

      Lorna Murdoch-Eaton - 2013-12-08 21:39

      What an atrociously written article.

  • Lebohang Molefe - 2013-12-07 12:51

    I still maintain.... I dont even think Zuma should be afforded a platform to speak at Pres Nelson Mandela's memorial nor his funeral service. We want to hear Arch Desmond Tutu, Pres Obama, former pres Clinton. We shouldn't spoil it with a thief among dignitaries!

      Frederick John Frier - 2013-12-07 13:03

      Well said, couldn't agree more!!

      Toby Clive Goss - 2013-12-07 13:09

      Lebohang you got that right.

      Liana Loots - 2013-12-07 13:18

      I concur. zuma is not a worthy spokesman, I am afraid that he will shame us South Africans by being his usual self.

      Hartmut Gneiting - 2013-12-07 13:57

      Zuma has to say thanks to him for the Million he got for Nkandla...

      Armstrong Dreadnaught - 2013-12-07 14:04

      I agree, it should be a dignified occasion, not a parade! Zuma needs the votes. He is going to milk this as far as he can!

      Armstrong Dreadnaught - 2013-12-07 14:05

      Will Mbeki be afforded a chance to speak at the memorial service and burial?

      Alison Germishuys - 2013-12-07 14:41

      I agree. What a farce, Zuma does not deserve to have that honour, and an honour it will be to speak at The Great Man's funeral.

      Hilton Preston - 2013-12-08 10:23

      I refuse to use "Zuma" and "President" in the same sentence....ah crap!

      Ria Cook - 2013-12-09 11:16

      Let's just hope Zuma doesn't look at all this with glee, thinking one day he will get the same - because he will just be taken to the nearest rubbish dump and left there.

  • nthete.moalosi - 2013-12-07 12:52

    Lets show the world we can make it work,even when mandela has left us,and before we reach for hate lets always remember Mandela.

      Terrie Down - 2013-12-08 14:29

      I agree, let us remember him for the terrorist that he was.

  • OrbitingTeapot - 2013-12-07 13:00

    I hope the vehicle does not break down again.

      Innis Cloete - 2013-12-07 13:55

      Or gets hijacked along the way by some uninformed idiots...

  • Frederick John Frier - 2013-12-07 13:00

    This is just getting a bit too much now!!!!!

      Mike Heyns - 2013-12-07 14:50

      Totally agree! Everyone says RIP and then they want to have parades, parties, en-state, flowers, etc.!! Why did they (and each one of them knows who) not do for Tata when he was alive? Why did they not send flowers to him when he was at home? Or light candles? (Maybe a few)! The point I wish to make is that it is suddenly now if they want to milk the situation. "Mandela T-Shirts selling by the millions, hawkers around the "route" selling flowers by the trillions. Or are we at the point of inhumanity where we just say: "Die een se dood is die ander se brood?"

      Verbotene Liebe - 2013-12-08 01:11

      Go read something somewhere, no one is forcing you to come here on N24.

  • Maluxion Nketle - 2013-12-07 13:02

    I agree with those who says to use the word remains is not entirely correct,I think it is in poor tasting to come across such a word,A body should have been used.Not remains.remains should be used when the body is creminated and ash is left.Not a fully intact body of a human being who has died.

  • Toby Clive Goss - 2013-12-07 13:07

    Macabre and sick. Let the dead remain at rest.

  • Dikeledi Nkosi - 2013-12-07 13:11

    Mandela earned our respect, he did not demand it. when Princess Diana died we neva said it is too much or his son gettin married or when Michael jackson died, come on mzansi,

  • verkuyl - 2013-12-07 13:18

    Lebohang 10 out of 10 Not a truer word written!

  • Melusi Kubheka - 2013-12-07 13:30

    How are we as the public suppose to participate if Zuma does not declare a public holiday??

      Scouter Four-One - 2013-12-07 13:43

      I don't think encouraging others to lie does you much credit Felicia - it may be the ANC way but it is not that of others .....

      Jo van Salcedo-Loza - 2013-12-07 13:43

      …and preferably to extend it until New Year….in case of late mourning feelings…..

      Jo van Salcedo-Loza - 2013-12-07 14:12

      ….and therein lies one Ethics concept which can't penetrate ANC skulls: why tell the truth when you can lie?….why work for money when you can take it?….why leaving the unattended wallet on the table when nobody will see you lifting it?………But hey!!…let's celebrate Madiba's integrity !!!!………...

      Omn Basso - 2013-12-08 02:03

      ms. Felicia, please take it easy for now... you insulting people because you can...

  • Binne Goed - 2013-12-07 13:30

    On a side-note. I see old Ronnie Kastrol did his best to spread his communist ways this morning when he got a chance on tv.

  • Jonathan Adam - 2013-12-07 13:34

    I hope news24 can employ editors who can write proper English than to use remains instead of body. I am giving you news24 an hour to correct that otherwise your site is going to be unavailable for quite some time.

      Marnus Lamprecht - 2013-12-07 15:23

      It is 15:23 now, more than an hour later and News24 is still up and running, maybe you are not as "powerfull" as you think you are.

      Omn Basso - 2013-12-08 01:54

      but Press ombuds is...a few times he was involved already...feel free to report noncense like PARADING REMAINS...who is the 'genius' with the idea? same clowns? live Mandela in peace!

  • Jo van Salcedo-Loza - 2013-12-07 13:40

    His alive remains were paraded previously (2009) when Zuma and Associates hijacked him from his home for a public display…They would have repeated the story near elections next year, but Thuli Madonsela came first……..

  • Nettie Potgieter - 2013-12-07 13:46

    Being dead for a couple of months already and the body kept alive by machines will cause the body to decompose faster. At the end it will be a smelly affair. Same on the ANC to use him in such away!!

      Marie Fourie - 2013-12-07 14:11

      @Felicia, we don't know if they used the embalming process. Seems you're the only one knowing that.

      Binne Goed - 2013-12-07 14:15

      I'm interested to know why you say a body kept alive by machines would decompose faster.

      Jo van Salcedo-Loza - 2013-12-07 14:15

      Probably the last solutions to go through the tubes and needles in his body were for embalming it before he "died peacefully"……but you see: Thuli Madonsela's tsunami was in full force……….

      Jaco Wium - 2013-12-07 19:24

      Everybody just speculates without proof.

  • Venessa Born Stubborn Ede - 2013-12-07 13:49

    I never had the privilege to meet Madiba and I will not dishonour his memory and all he stood for by gawking at his remains like it is part of some macabre show. The man gave so much of himself to us as South Africans, let him rest in peace.

  • Benjamin Klass - 2013-12-07 14:22

    Madiba deserves better than this c***!

  • William Hallett - 2013-12-07 14:28

    This is a sick act, even for the A.N.C.

  • Pat Aldrich - 2013-12-07 14:30

    Body or remains. The moment you pass on only the dead body or the remains of a living body remain. Everybody is to die. The greatest as made by man or the smallest or least in the eye of man. Our fate is the same. Eventually you will be forgotten or only remembered in books

  • Chris Whittaker - 2013-12-07 15:21

    Even in death he has no peace. It will be good when he is finally laid to rest in his village.

  • Lize Pieterse - 2013-12-07 16:36

    This is very disrespectful and uncalled for. He is dead. Have some respect and stop treating him like a freakish side show. Even in death, he can't get rest for his soul. This is no way to treat him.

  • Martin Pearce - 2013-12-07 16:37

    What a disgrace and dishonour to Madiba. to have his body paraded through the streets of Pretoria on its way to lie in state. The ANC government is looking for political points and votes by doing this. this man deserves respect. The ANC have sunk to a new low.

  • Agnes Ntombikayise Buthelezi - 2013-12-07 16:43

    the people who seem to have a problem with this ,majority its white people ,live the ANC alone ,the ordinary citizens wants to see his remains ,afterall he was the father of the nation ,we want to bid farewell to him ,why does it bother you ,its not your body .

      Jim Notty Mtsweni - 2013-12-07 23:09

      Ai Agnes why shud u cy those who have a problem are whites? what u wrote here its rubbish....sum thngs u shud keep to ur celf coz u sound as if u hev anger towards whites! dats #Lame of u.

      Maverick82 - 2013-12-07 23:18

      Go and read the comments again and read it very slowly. A lot of people don't like that his body is refered to as 'remains', because it is still his BODY. Secondly the way they say it will be 'paraded' doesn't sound good either. I'm sure if he article gave the route that the cofin or body will travel for it to lay in state and that members of the public will be able to view it along the given route, then people would have less to say. It's the wording more than anything else. But if you want to make it about skin colour and what not, then do so.

      Tim Craven - 2013-12-09 13:07

      @Jim and Maverick Unfortunately this country is still full of racist pigs like Agnes. People who have to bring skin colour into everything because their racist heads are too small to accommodate people of all skin colours and nationalities. At least the majority of SA is getting over/has gotten over racism and apartheid, so now it is just the few bad eggs like Agnes and Felicia who we have to get rid of. Oh, and for all the hatemongers out there who are going to call me racist for saying this, i don't care what colour you skin is, if you discriminate against anyone for the same reason you do not deserve my respect, all you deserve to to F*CK OFF!

  • Erna Westdyk - 2013-12-07 16:51

    That's just weird. What about flying him to the other cities and 'parading' him!

  • Tshepo Ntoane - 2013-12-07 19:40

    I really don't see a problem with the planned program. They're affording all South Africans the opportunity to mourn our father. I for one will be attending all the proceedings.

      Twolips - 2013-12-08 10:14

      You don't have to see a body in order to mourn. This is a sick trick by the ANC to divert attention from Zuma's Nkandla saga. Points scoring at its very best.

  • Lentokazi YakwaManzini KoSengwayo - 2013-12-07 20:29

    The words "remains" & "paraded" seem SO inappropriate/undignified. Why is his body being referred to as "remains" as though he died in some car crash or some other horrific way that caused most of his body parts to be seperated from his body? You can "parade" a sports trophy or some happy event...NOT the body of a respected world icon.

  • Adriana Stuijt - 2013-12-08 05:28

    Flags are flying half mast all over the world for mandela , whether you think he was a terrorist or not , in many people 's eyes all over the world he was a saint , a hero , a great man and he will go down in the history books along side princess diana,martin luther king and abraham lincoln as a great human being . You racist can shout at the top of your lungs that he was a terrorist but it will all fall on deaf ears because mandela 's awesomeness overshadows everything that you say .RIP Mandela

  • Michael McLaggan - 2013-12-08 08:28

    This is actually sick...

  • Chris Clark - 2013-12-08 08:29

    ' accredited' awa , nobody needed to be accredited in other parts of the world , stand in the queue .

  • Adair Victoria Cross - 2013-12-08 11:20

    Stupid headline as usual.Paraded? Remains? I think the news24 journalists need to learn english.

  • Susani Tomsana - 2013-12-08 18:09

    Really, why? Oh! why? Does this need to be done? Must this be done, really? Let the him rest and his body rest? Enough with the publicity stunt over a chieftain leader!!!!! It is not allowed nor is it fair to his memory. He wouldn't have allowed it with the worst of his enemies. Why????, oh! Why???? But for a mere satisfaction to appease sickness

  • Leanne Viljoen Burger - 2013-12-09 06:11

    Just what Siener van Rensburg said all those years back!!!!!

  • Lauren Ashleigh Brewis - 2013-12-09 07:50

    are you kidding? what a f**king circus!

  • Joe Galo - 2013-12-09 07:57

    The wrong here is how the article was wrote...Madiba will have a state funeral not the ANC funeral....why do i feel like you people are just jelouse that he died an ANC member?????

  • Munier Parker - 2013-12-09 10:20

    What idiot created this headline? Education system 20 years down the line. We're producing morons.

  • Thabisi Hoeane - 2013-12-09 11:51

    Where are you editors?! You don't "parade" the body of a dead person!!! Clearly, the point is not to " parade" Mandela but the body will be moving from the hospital to the union buildings as this will be an oppourtunity for those who will not be able to be at the Union Buildings to pay their respects. An apology is in order!!!

  • Rinaldo.Riette - 2013-12-09 13:20

    Oh my word.... I must have missed the memo proclaiming Madiba to be a god.....

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