Mandla returning to court over graves case

2013-07-18 11:44

Johannesburg - Lawyers for former president Nelson Mandela's grandson Mandla Mandela will return to the Eastern Cape High Court in Mthatha on Thursday to seek the return of the remains of three family members to Mvezo, The New Age reported.

Earlier this month, the court ordered him to return the remains of his grandfather's three children to Qunu from Mvezo, where he moved them two years ago.

Mandla Mandela's spokesperson Freddy Pilusa reportedly told the newspaper: "Chief Mandla has no intention to insist on the repatriation of the remains back to Mvezo.

"However, since the court order was based on false and misleading information, it is important to reverse what we view as an unfair decision."

According to the newspaper, this unreliable information included that Madiba was in "a permanent vegetative state".

Earlier on Thursday, the former statesman's 95th birthday, presidency spokesperson Mac Maharaj said that Mandela's condition was "steadily improving".

The remains are those of Mandela's eldest son Madiba Thembekile, who died in a car accident in 1969; Mandla Mandela's father Makgatho Mandela, who died in 2005; and Mandela's first daughter Makaziwe Mandela, who died as an infant in 1948.

  • Twopac Amaru Shakur - 2013-07-18 11:52

    Come on,let it go already.You Mandla must be admitted at a mental institution.You are sick.

      Bheki Dladla - 2013-07-18 12:02

      Twopack, for the first time i really agree with you so ironic!!lol Mandla is really sick and he needs to just get over it. eish i nearly mentions Malema, sorry twopack lol. *wink*

      James Mabote - 2013-07-18 12:26

      Just yesterday Mandla was telling the nation about the importance of sharing. He's however not prepared to share the bones. And yes Bheki, Malema should also be a patient in the same mental institution as Mandla.

      Twopac Amaru Shakur - 2013-07-18 12:26

      @Bheki,nna I call it as it is,if the sky is blue is blue.If blacks mess up I tell them s*#t,If whites mess up,I tell them s*#t.Why should we hide the facts & be cowards just like our president?

      James Mabote - 2013-07-18 12:28

      Twopack, if my memory is still intact, YOUR president was Malema, and you're right about him.

      Cas van Niekerk - 2013-07-18 12:43

      What is Mandla's problem? Who the hell does he think he is? Definitely not worth of being called Madiba's grand child!! Get real. Get a life!

      Yakoob Motala - 2013-07-18 12:49

      What I cannot understand is that when the bodies were moved TWO Years ago did he do so in consultation with Madiba ? If he did or did not what were Madiba's views on the matter? TWO years back Madiba was in full command of his mental faculties. In any case why move the dead?

      Bheki Dladla - 2013-07-18 13:14

      @James, good one and i also remember quite well that twopack's president is Malema unless that has changed. lol.

      Nosiphiwe Buthelezi Nissy - 2013-07-18 14:43

      why did he move them the first place nxa! Royalty will make people go craze. Thank God being a Madiba chief dont mean he can be president! pheww.

  • Israel Levi - 2013-07-18 11:53

    Damn greedy selfish all about u and money pig, and u choose ur grandfathers birthday to make this announcement. U are a pale shadow of madiba

  • Tumi Moetlo - 2013-07-18 11:55

    Inkosi Mandla is crazy as his brother King Buyelekhaya.

  • John Tex - 2013-07-18 11:56

    Put the muti boy ...

  • Maxk Selesho - 2013-07-18 12:06

    Just let go brother unless you and the old man had a deal

  • Bethuel Nkogatse - 2013-07-18 12:06

    ag Mandla, we really dnt care. We luv Madiba nt u or any of ur fellowship. If possible, let the media focus on worth news. We tired of u all. With due respect man, we tired of ur family. We recognize Madiba n Madiba Only

  • Themba Nomdimba Mantyi - 2013-07-18 12:07

    noko ngathi ngexola untwane gazi ngoku zangesayiva lentsumantsune kweli labathembu.

  • Mark Richardson - 2013-07-18 12:09

    What a mess, this bunch will ruin the good name of Mandela , every programme we wacth in the USA or europe have 50% positive Madiba stories and 50% negative family mess interlinked with Maharaj spin ( which come sacross overseas as a total joke and compared to the press liason of Sadam Hussein ) Why dont you report the fact News24 that Makgatho Mandela died of Aids , however u state all the means of passing of the others. it might actually help instead of trying to make the family look as if it has not been affected.

      Carolyn Sims-Handcock - 2013-07-18 12:28

      It is not necessary to mention it because Mr Nelson Mandela publicly stated the cause of death as AIDS in 2005. What point are you trying to make now, besides a mischievous one?

      Albert Steyn - 2013-07-18 12:48

      Carolyn, nothing michievious about it as Madiba have said, we must stop trying to hide the disease. Here in South Africa the media always use euphenisms such as "lung" or "digestive system" causes. Madiba has been quoted to have said: "Let us give publicity to HIV/AIDS and not hide it, because the only way to make it appear like a normal illness like TB, like cancer, is always to come out and say somebody has died because of HIV/AIDS, and people will stop regarding it as something extraordinary."

  • Sontshatsha Kwezi - 2013-07-18 12:10

    This guy is a "black sheep" in the Mandela family.

  • Jessica Steyn - 2013-07-18 12:11

    why did he move the remains in the first place? you are a man who think he has power over his elderly father which is def sick! leave the past in the past and move forward, time doesnt stand still.

      Yakoob Motala - 2013-07-18 12:43

      What I cannot understand is that when the bodies were moved TWO Years ago did he do so in consultation with Madiba ? If not what were Madiba's views on the matter?

  • Josie de Villiers - 2013-07-18 12:15

    Now we know what Mandla did with his 67 minutes for Mandela Day, consult with his lawyers to go Mandela grave digging again.

  • Yondela Gupta-Valela - 2013-07-18 12:15

    Qunu or Mvezo! the fact that should matter most, they are buried!... PERIOD!

  • DerekMain - 2013-07-18 12:16

    He should be charged with grave tampering. Illegal behaviour.

  • nkululeko.zulu.5 - 2013-07-18 12:23

    Instead of spending 67 minutes to honor his grand Dad, but he's busy seeking for attention!!!

      Hennie-Joan du Preez - 2013-07-18 12:31

      Why? Is Winnie's wishes law.

  • Paul Kershaw - 2013-07-18 12:25

    Up they come - again. Wonder why he's not just having the other family members charged with contempt of court? They LIED to the court. The pathetic ego of these characters is beyond belief. One always trying to over-ride the other. He doesn't have to move the remains again - but despite his words, he obviously is using the family remains for his own selfishness.

  • Shumani Jeffrey - 2013-07-18 12:27

    did u know that mandla was a club dj thats why his head is spining like a disc.

  • Bongani Sikhosana - 2013-07-18 12:28

    This is a joke.

  • Samantha Dube - 2013-07-18 12:29

    What could have gone sooooo wrong in this family that none of them inherited Nelson Mandela's genes!!! This is a family of aliens, don't think any of them is related to the man that's respected world wide!

  • Mluleki Ta-Mlu Duku - 2013-07-18 12:30

    Can't he be descent enough n let this go unchallenged for the sake of his Grandpa and also not giiving media something to write or talk about!!!

  • Dawn Atkinson - 2013-07-18 12:49

    WTF? enough already! You are a disgrace to your Grandfather and your heritage! How arrogant to assume you have the right to go against Madiba's wishes - that his children be buried exactly where they rest now??? Go find something useful and constructive to do!!

  • Richard - 2013-07-18 12:55

    Is this man crazy. Probably wants the remains as a tourist attraction for his new hotel.

  • Jurgen Eksteen - 2013-07-18 12:56

    Musical Bones!!

      Jurgen Eksteen - 2013-07-18 12:57

      He removed the bones illegally to begin with and now he goes to court to have the previous illegal status upheld.

  • Enock Tumisang - 2013-07-18 12:58

    This issue is very complicated cos one can ask whether Mandela wanted them to be buried in Mvezo or Qunu. Those people died long time and the latest being 2005! Sure,he could have made efforts for Makgatho to be buried where suitable since he's the father to him! For them to remove bones like that is uncalled for

      Bheki Dladla - 2013-07-18 13:16

      remove Mandla and this issue will be over.

  • Andrea Thompson - 2013-07-18 13:14

    So that's how Mandla chooses to spend his 67 minutes.

  • Kalahari Kgalagadi Safaris - 2013-07-18 13:32

    Mandla anc chief and grave robber. Wow what a sick business!

  • Raymond Kok - 2013-07-18 13:40

    enough already what are you digging up anyway just soil let the spirit of these people rest and please get yourself a job and stop spunging of your grandpa damm you are anal

  • Niekie van Heerden - 2013-07-18 13:47

    Mandla, you should be stripped of your Mandela name, as you are dragging everything it stands for into the mud with you! You are a disgrace to your family! Remember the wheel turns, hopefully faster for the likes of you, you nonsence!

  • Cuthbert Murwisi - 2013-07-18 14:00

    This guy is egocentric and attention seeking. He does not know where and when to stop. Spoilt......

  • Hasani P - 2013-07-18 14:49

    Mandla, please let it go

  • Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-07-18 18:53

    Next installment in this never ending story.

  • Allan Whitton - 2013-07-18 19:04

    Why did he not turn up at the original court case to argue his case, they should tell him to p##s off

  • Nhlanganiso Joseph - 2013-07-18 19:23

    My chief why did you secretly take the remains without consulting other members of the family.culturally and morally it is not guess the motive was is subjects are no longer having trust in you.

  • Nhlanganiso Joseph - 2013-07-18 20:00

    The farlam commission must also investingate wether the bones of the dead are still save in their graves in that part of the world.i don't trust my chief at all.

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