Mantashe: Put policy into practice

2013-02-13 13:15

Johannesburg - ANC policies need to be put into practice before they are criticised, the party’s secretary general Gwede Mantashe said on Wednesday.

"We are not going to perfect a concept here and wage a debate for 10 years until we turn blue [in the face]," he told reporters and academics in Soweto.

"We want to use a Chinese philosophy that development is an irrefutable argument. Any of these interventions [proposed by the ANC] can be proven to be working if they are implemented and applied.

"We can only say they are failing if we implement them and they fail."

Jobs for youth

Mantashe was speaking at a discussion on the policy outcomes of the party's national conference in December.

He said one of the issues that elicited debate was how the youth could get employment.

"This informed the decision that we should introduce the youth employment support and incentive scheme. We are not talking about the youth employment subsidy," he said.

"The reason we use that term is because it must be a broad approach."

He said it was possible that a subsidy could form part of the approach.

"What is driving us is the need to ensure that more and more young people are absorbed into the economy."

One of the leading critics of the youth employment subsidy was the ANC's tripartite alliance partner, the Congress of SA Trade Unions.

Declaring education an essential service

The party had also received criticism for its call to declare education an essential service. Mantashe said doing so did not focus on the legal definition of the term.

"There have been attempts to push us towards the legal definition, [where people ask] is it banning striking amongst teachers?

"Education is not just about teaching, it is a broader intervention. The Limpopo [textbook] debacle points to the need of making education an essential service.

"That department [of education] must appreciate that if it does not deliver books there must be consequences... because they are dealing with what is essential to the development of the nation."

He said declaring education an essential service was a call to mobilise society to take education seriously.

"The question of the right to strike is not on the table at this point in time. We are not talking about that," Mantashe said.

He said the party was more determined than ever to defend the ANC brand.

"Others call it bullying and outbursts. It is an obligation on our part to defend that brand when it is under attack," Mantashe said.

"We are not arrogant, we are not angry, we have an obligation to protect our movement."

He said the poor behaviour of individual ANC leaders and cadres was often generalised to represent the organisation as a whole.

  • mafa.smith.9 - 2013-02-13 13:26

    where is ASGISA,GEAR,MASAKHANE and many other washhog brainchilld of this cANCer

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2013-02-13 13:41

      I see you are back from your holidays Mantashe, well i hope you enjoyed it there in the Seychelles at us tax payers expense, I dream of holidaying there myself one day, unfortunately I will have to pay my own flights and accomodation and my budget will be a little less than 2 million Rand.

      bafana.ndlovu.9026 - 2013-02-13 13:59

      Why is Cosatu sticking their noses in again?

      joe.porchy - 2013-02-13 14:02


      Jo - 2013-02-13 14:02

      Wait, let me get this straight, we can't criticize you PLANNED stupidity, we need to wait until you put that stupidity into practice? Dear Lord, please save our land from the cANCer.

      ready2go - 2013-02-13 14:05

      No no wait, before you get all subjective, the ANC has brought in the corruption and fraud policy and they seem to be doing fantastic with that? Who`s to say their new scandals in the making wont work? O and when I say work I mean work them, not us...

      saintbruce.bruce - 2013-02-13 17:56

      What policies ? The ONLY policies South Africans see is the wholesale theft of vast sums of tax payers money by ANC Cadres and appointed officials at every level in government. That policy seems to followed with vigour! Anything else and a sloth could outrun you all ! Sorry but after 20 years of shovelling poo at the public, the smell stays old boy.

  • MarkH - 2013-02-13 13:29

    Okay, Gwede now we know what you're thinking which is useful. The point, however, is that policies need to be thought through first, then the probable long-term results of these ideas need to be analysed and only then can you implement them. Implementation without proper consultation, analysis and investigation is useless and for this you need qualified and experienced people and this is where you seem to have hit the wall. Given the context of your statement there is something that worries me. You seem to be talking a mixture of government and ANC and thus are you sure, 100% sure, that you know where the division between party and state is?

      bibi.vanzyl - 2013-02-13 13:44

      your last paragraph... Amen.

      Xavier7034 - 2013-02-13 14:11

      Trouble is, the ANC is holding, and they are in no state to govern.....:-)

      ready2go - 2013-02-13 14:11

      Mark its very weird you should say that, according to reports billions of tax payer money get spent on analyst on every single thing they do, it might be time to chose a analyst that is not your uncle or brother and that actually did work in the field?

      godfrey.welman - 2013-02-13 14:47

      Say and do whatever you wish, as long as Cadre Deployment is policy No.1 all others will fail.

      carol.brand.5030 - 2013-02-13 15:54

      This is a reply for bob.macmillen564. That was Motlanthe the Dep Prez. who went on a taxpayers holiday. This is Mantashe who took a holiday from English classes!

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2013-02-14 00:01

      This is not even "manly man-trash" any longer - just arrogant bloated winging pigswill........out of touch with any form of reality.

  • neiljvv - 2013-02-13 13:30

    ANC is in trouble !!!! Come 2014 elections.

      tony.bakkie - 2013-02-13 13:37

      If only Neiljvv. Unfortunately the sheeple are not seeing any of this. Come next year the yellow t-shirts will flow freely and votes will be bought with meilie meel and KFC

      Xavier7034 - 2013-02-13 14:13

      The ANC IS in trouble.....wait till this coming Monday....and then the fun will begin....bring on 2014

  • silenta.solly - 2013-02-13 13:31

    Im sick and tired of these policies not being properly implemented. The policies of the ANC are all good and well but the implementation sucks

      jeremy thorpe - 2013-02-13 13:48

      Silenta - if only they were good and well! Unfortunately it's not just the implenetation that sucks - it's also the policies themselves.

  • stephen.ambartzakis - 2013-02-13 13:37

    You bleeding idiot, if a policy is flawed it needs to be changed BEFORE implementation not afterwards, IDIOT!!!!!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-13 14:04

      Phil.galpin. Both the Trabants and the VW are dead.

      carol.brand.5030 - 2013-02-13 15:53

      OMG! English Mantashe, English. Oh dear God, how sad is this? really? must we be content with such a futile band of brothers. he cannot speak English properly. Mantashe, you sound like a gorf!

      lucky.mpoza - 2013-02-13 16:53

      Is that all you can say, carol? if yes then please be so kind and teach him english and afrikaans, after all those are the only languages you value in south africa.

  • carl.lotter.3 - 2013-02-13 13:40

    The fish rots from the head

  • jeremy thorpe - 2013-02-13 13:46

    Er, actually NO, Gwede. ANC policy is often so badly formulated and written and so often at odds with the Constitution, that it does have to be debated and worked on extensively before it can be put before the ANC sheep in parliament and voted into law. And I have to say, I find it odd how the ANC and other African governments are so willing to embrace all things Chinese when the Chinese are bigger colonialists and exploiters than Western countries ever were!

  • difa.mashwama - 2013-02-13 13:50

    first fight corruption in your organisation Manthashe then you can talk about your good policies.

  • carl.lotter.3 - 2013-02-13 13:54

    By and large the policies are good and can be tweaked as implemented. The problem really is the idea that the ANC cadres DO NOT have the skill of implementation - unfortunately skewed (by history) the majority of these skills needed exists outside the ANC - but even where they are to be found within ANc voters they are overlooked and sidelined and ignored - by ANC Cabinet Ministers DG's Chief Directors. All these officials want to do it all themselves and although many of them are postgraduates they do not have the experience skill or competency. They also know well that recent studies in government administration show that a good administration is about developing good policies, legislation and regulation and combining that with good monitoring and evaluation techniques. The implementation and operation of programs is best left to private sector managers. That South African public servants refuses to do this has got to do with intransigent ideological positions taken by the political bosses the ANC machinery and Cabinet ministers down coupled with an arrogance that would make the authors of the Freedom charter veil their faces.

  • craig.lowe.3572 - 2013-02-13 13:55

    With respect sir I think you have had enough practice and it is not doing you any good, some people will never get it rite no matter how much they practice, the clever ones understand this and let those more suitable carry out the tasks with which you have failed even with all the practice

  • Andrew M - 2013-02-13 13:55

    Sounds more like a dictatorship rather than entering into dialog with people, just enforce our way and say it is not bullying. While it may seem not to be arrogant or angry to Mantashe do all people see it in that light. By stating they have an obligation to protect our (ANC) movement and as the government of the Country sounds ominous. Surely it should be to protect the peoples and citizens of South Africa. Many of the policies maybe noble in concept but not without flaws unless all accept and abibe by these policies. The need cannot just be onesided to satisfy the entire population.

  • paul.kershaw.18 - 2013-02-13 13:59

    Still thinking about implementation then by saying this aren't we? Duh.... action speaks far louder than words. And 20 years into The New South AFRICA the dross is certainly louder than any actual results.

  • bbooyse - 2013-02-13 14:02

    Hmmm...institutionalised corruption Censorship of media steam-rolling policies without public (aka taxpayer) consent = 3rd World Banana Republic (ohh course it's going to become just a cesspool if the farms go under)

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-13 14:02

    So many words to say so little. What a chop.

  • johan.grobler.12327 - 2013-02-13 14:02

    Blah blah blah......More Mantashe dribble. Nothing this guy says ever make sense. What a waste of taxpayer's money to pay his salary.

  • mike.bester1 - 2013-02-13 14:04

    hie Hie Hie bla bka bla

  • jaun.lombard.9 - 2013-02-13 14:16

    I thought he died!!

      tony.bakkie - 2013-02-13 15:21


      kortbroek.duplessis - 2013-02-13 17:56

      No its just his brain that died unfortunately

  • koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2013-02-13 14:24

    Based on that photo I think he might have had one to may African goats for lunch.

  • denis.delaport - 2013-02-13 14:25

    Ya Think!

  • andy.papadopulo - 2013-02-13 14:26

    So he uses a Chinese adage. Perhaps he thinks communism is good too...oh wait, then he can't drive his fancy car anymore...

      paul.kershaw.18 - 2013-02-13 15:02

      Uhh, we have all sorts of political setups within the ANC government going on, so they swing to whatever suits them at any time. Big cars included ALL the time. I call our particular "mix" DEMOCAPISOCIOCOMMUNISM.

  • christoffel.nel - 2013-02-13 14:29

    Kruger Dunning effect ...........

  • carl.lotter.3 - 2013-02-13 14:32

    Does Mr. Gwede or other ANC apparatchiks ever read this feed back: how does one get them to listen to well meaning feedback - will voters do the trick and change their vote?

  • matsutle.aphane - 2013-02-13 14:32

    MY problem is one with ANC every president that comes in to power comes with new policies, Mafa.smith.9 is right where is ASGISA,GEAR, AND MASAKHANE??? know we know of second transition what is that?? have they merge all three we mentioned?? ANC is not consistance,rather it is corrupt,

  • john.fourie.18 - 2013-02-13 14:33

    Like the Education policy, you mean?

  • stuart.baak - 2013-02-13 14:36

    "We can only say they are failing if we implement them and they fail." WHAT ABOUT BBBEE??? that failed...and yet??

  • Erna - 2013-02-13 14:45

    The reason why education is such a mess is because you change the policies every so many years. Each new minister knows better.

  • rowan.maulson - 2013-02-13 14:53

    Um no Gwede, We can criticise policies if we think they are crap. You don't need to implement them for us to know that they are crap.

  • eyesears.handsfeet - 2013-02-13 15:06

    we have an obligation to protect our movement - then you are doing it for the worng reason. Enough said.

  • richard.owenthomas.5 - 2013-02-13 15:06

    Mantashe says we must wait to see ANC policy implemeted before critisizing their policies -the country has been waiting for 18 years to see the real positive results - there is always a lot of talk but as normal nooooo walk - limping and possibilty of falling over.!!!!!!!

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2013-02-13 15:12

    ANC policies need to be put into practice before they are criticised. And how many more years must we SAfricans wait until these policies are put into practice??

  • eyesears.handsfeet - 2013-02-13 15:14

    Mantashe said doing so did not focus on the legal definition of the term. "The reason we use that term is because it must be a broad approach." Leaving it open to yet again more corruption, fraud, mismanagement and alot of loopholes in order to once again twist and turn policies and "laws" as and how the anc and the government sees fit. Again the "two-sets-of-rules" for SA approach. Just never seems to end.

  • mpho.c.moreki - 2013-02-13 15:27

    Is he speaking in metaphor as usual or he realy means what he says.

  • daniel.f.vanwijk - 2013-02-13 18:32

    Defend and protect your movement and stuff the country. Typical,you fool.

  • thatomjuva - 2013-02-13 18:51

    all you need to do is to act aggressively against all those rotten potatoes you having with in your organisation. Eastern Cape for years suffered because of (IZAPHUSELANE, ONGANTWENI) in the name of the organisation being involved in too much corruption.So are we suffering, wasting our votes for some morons bazosinyela with in the structure's of the ANC.They must voetsek FROM the ANC

  • Johnson - 2013-02-13 22:41

    "He said the poor behaviour of individual ANC leaders and cadres was often generalised to represent the organisation as a whole" - The problem with this statement and the shear number of people involved in all the things you see or hear in the news are ANC cadres. It would be safe to say the majority of the ANC in this context Mr Mantashe. Problem is excepting your mistakes is better than always trying to defend them - as that is a trade of a weak man.

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