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Mantashe backs Zuma on apartheid blame

2013-04-11 09:40

Johannesburg - ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe has added his voice to the debate on whether apartheid can still be blamed for South Africa's problems.

Mantashe appears to have thrown his weight behind President Jacob Zuma's comments on Wednesday that "we can't stop blaming those who caused it".

Zuma's comments were an apparent reference to Planning Minister Trevor Manuel, who told public servants last week that it was time to stop blaming apartheid for the country's problems, and take responsibility for solving them.

Mantashe told Talk Radio 702 on Thursday that he asks a historical question when this debate comes up.

"When did the holocaust happen? And I ask the question: Why is it as fresh as if it happened last year? Because it was such a major injustice against a particular community.” 

Mantashe said economic apartheid still affects the life chances of young black people, even though they were born after the end of apartheid.

"If you are a young white graduate you are likely to have an uncle in the furniture business. If you are a young African graduate you’ll battle at the labour market."

 

Comments
  • Vince van Rooyen - 2013-04-11 09:44

    It will always be easier to blame apartheid than to acknowledge that corruption and the plundering the ficus is the real reason for the poor getting poorer and the black elite getting richer by the day! I suppose it is also apartheid fault that there are so many new black billionaires

      Shivaskar Baichan - 2013-04-11 10:44

      I think he means 'Joshua Doore' - 'Have an uncle in the furniture business'........Joshua Doore

      Walter Oldnal Latham - 2013-04-11 10:46

      Yup, Zuma, Mantashe and the rest of their ANC stalwarts keep on preaching the same old thing and making comparatives to the poor black people living in shanties and blaming the past. BUT, have they looked at their OWN rich mansions, motor vehicles and bulging bank accounts and made a comparison? What they are doing is pointing fingers at people, many of whom have worked extremely hard to build decent lives and homes for themselves and expecting these people to give everything up and say, "We are sorry for apartheid." Those people have chosen to remain in SA and make this country great, which potentially it is..... it is this ANC gang who are giving this country a bad name. The rand is depreciating, foreign investments are being removed and young people continue to emigrate! Vote DA for change.

      goyougoodthing - 2013-04-11 10:49

      The Jews also win more Noble Prizes than anyone else, by a long long way...

      Ryan - 2013-04-11 10:52

      why does Mantashe compare Apartheid to the Holocaust ? is he mad ??? Holocaust was MUCH worse. we weren't trying to gas every black in south africa. and speaking of the Holocaust, after World War 2 Germany was flattened and decimated. it had no economy, yet within 20 years it was one of the biggest in the world. lets compare that to the sad sack ANC's dire lack of achievements in the last 20 years .. all the ANC has done is complain that not much can be done in 20 years ... I say to them, look at the Germany example and many others

      alan.gernet - 2013-04-11 10:59

      Gwede - amongst great comepetition - You are the weakest link....

      Neil Jansen van Vuuren - 2013-04-11 11:09

      Zuma will keep Apartheid alive. As long as it's alive he'll be cashing in. Thanks to Apartheid, Zuma is living in a R250 mil house.

      Adrien McGuire - 2013-04-11 11:12

      @ Kgolane Thulare I don't think that anyone is denying that apartheid did not have awful consequences in South Africa. There are other examples like King Shaka and his murderous ways. Every era in South Africa's history has been a brush stroke that has painted the landscape we see today. However, incompetence, corruption, crime , nepotism, tender irregularities, infrastructure decay, poor planning and worse execution, low productivity, the health system collapse, the information bill, education collapse etc etc cannot be blamed on apartheid. These matters are the result of incompetent and corrupt government who are hell bent on enriching themselves and the ANC at the expense of the taxpayer and voters. These are day to day activities which are poorly managed and are the result of non existent leadership. If you feel differently, I would love to hear your side !

      PointBlank - 2013-04-11 11:12

      @Mfaniseni Thusi - People are getting angry??? Try us who voted for an equal country only to be raped, robbed and murdered while the eilte ANC sit on palaces with underground bunkers and spending 206 million on ONE man while we all fight off criminals entering our houses. Don't come with your "we are getting angry" mate because trust me when I say we SPITTING MAD right now...

      Chrono Man - 2013-04-11 11:13

      Mr Mantashe's approach is to look backwards. Why doesn't he ask himself what things could have been like if the state coffers had not been plundered and state funds mismanaged like they were? Japan was basically totally destroyed during WW2 and did most of the rebuilding in 19 years, and that is where we are now after 1994: 19 years later. The ANC's blaming of apartheid for current conditions is nothing but acknowledgeing its own failures.

      kimster - 2013-04-11 11:19

      and we cant stop blaming the anc for thieving taxes - thats also apartheid fault? since when do we drop our morals for things that happened in the past? these "comrades" only fuel hatred between races

      Hawkeye Pierce - 2013-04-11 11:25

      For a moment forget about the lingering effects of apartheid, forget about the ANC blaming apartheid for current woes. Instead ask what effect "blaming apartheid" has on the generations that have been born or matured after the end of apartheid. If you constantly tell this group of people that the reason they can't succeed is because of the past evils of apartheid then when difficulties at school or a work arise some portion of this group is going to give up or not try as hard because you have given them a built in excuse. In essence you are handing a group of young people (already suffering from high unemployment and high HIV infection rate) a ready made excuse to not try. From a psychological standpoint this is the wrong argument to have and at the wrong time. Apartheid was wrong, now what can be done to fix the problems of today? Small minds fix the blame, great minds fix the problem

      Trevor Pietersen - 2013-04-11 11:36

      He had to....or he will loose his job...:-)

      Doberman Love - 2013-04-11 11:42

      If apartheid was like the holocaust... Then 22000000 (twenty-two million) black South African would have been killed just like one in two Jews were murdered in Europe. Jews in Israel, instead of hating and blaming the Germans, have created one of the stongest econmies in the world with the help of Germany . They remember the past and their dead millions, but they are mostly focused on making their future brighter! We can learn a lot from the Jews... How to create industry, invent and create. The ANC are too busy living in the past that they forgot about the present.

      Nigel Burgess - 2013-04-11 11:46

      Kgosietsile Segongoane - obviously you have a grudge, justified or not, that is not the point. We're trying to say that corruption, lying, stealing from rich and poor alike, and a failure in almost every government department cannot be blamed on apartheid. The above are what the current government are doing right now, yet Apartheid isn't here anymore - so what is forcing them to do these unlawful and morally reprehensible things? Are you getting all this?

      Vin Savage - 2013-04-11 12:12

      Yes Thusi - and black people have run out of excuses - every 'subject' goes back to apartheid... Super Boring and VERY lame!

      Adrien McGuire - 2013-04-11 12:45

      @ Kgolane Thulare Thanks for your eloquent response. 5)We as Africans would rather be living in a corrupt African state , ruled by corrupt African officials, than be ruled by foreginers who have being raping our resources form centuries This is probably the saddest comment I have seen on News 24 for a while. You would rather cut your nose of to spite your face. Instead of striving to uplift the country, you accept the status quo because of narrow minded views. I don't think the complainers on this article really care who runs the country, they just want to see it done efficiently, free of corruption, transparently and with good leadership. Whether you like it or not, we are all in the same boat and it would help to reach the desired destination , if everyone paddled in the same direction. Your efforts are not helping anyone. !

      alon.fisher.752 - 2013-04-11 13:48

      Hold on did they gas black kids to death before cremating them or shootup entire families in open pits during apartheid as a final solution to racially cleanse the black population? Yet how did the Jews pull it together and rebuild themselves without raping,killing dis-enfranchising Germans?Sure what they doing to the Pallies is detestable but you should be grateful Mantashe that fate chose Verwoerd to rule over bad old SA instead of Hitler and Himmler otherwise you would have been a bar of soap or ash fertilizer by now.

  • Christopher Thunder Linde - 2013-04-11 09:45

    Typical.

      riad.mahomed - 2013-04-11 10:01

      Our Mr. President and the Secretary of the ruling party reminds me of Jim Carrey & Jeff Daniels in that 1994 movie called “Dumb & Dumber”. About the only difference is, one pair acts stupid while the other pair seems to be stupid.

      Regte Boer - 2013-04-11 10:18

      Between the two stooges they cannot even string together a single working brain cell. Not eve good enough to be used as door stops.

      alan.gernet - 2013-04-11 10:35

      @Riad - no matter what the issue is - there is absolutely no substitute for education, and it shows.

      Kgosietsile Segongoane - 2013-04-11 12:39

      @herpderp much as u didn't want dat government it took u so long to change it ne, did u go to jail for not wanting that government , did any of ure family get shot for that , so pls don't u ever say such things wen u hav no idea hoe the other half lived..

  • Helio Alvaro De Abreu - 2013-04-11 09:46

    Sounds more like "if you are in government, you know plenty of uncles in the government" - covering their own incompetence?

      SaintBruce Bruce - 2013-04-11 11:36

      That is how it works. Ask Julius about 'virtual'uncles who suddenly don't like you! Blaming Apartheid is a sign of weakness. The ANC is weak and JZ confirmed this. Mantashe is his lapdog. The electorate is becoming aware of JZ's BS and now see through it for what it is. Will they vote for more BS or less?

  • William Mohlolo - 2013-04-11 09:46

    LOL

  • Patrick Massey-Hicks - 2013-04-11 09:47

    Yawn....

  • warren-rodel - 2013-04-11 09:48

    Cris Hani is a better and will always be a better man than Zuma, Zuma is on a band wagon to keep the votes by reminding the older generation about emotions from 20 years ago. As time passes the story will change to suit the person in charge. The ANC boat sails on struggle, so keep up the struggle and vote ANC, when there is nothing left don't forget to thank the ANC for the wonderful ride.

      Izak Johannes Minnie - 2013-04-11 10:40

      U GOT IT i THINK CRISS HANI WOULD DEFENATLY BEEN A BETTER DEAL

  • Nic Michelle Robinson - 2013-04-11 09:49

    I agree that Apartheid still has a significant influence in our lives. But we must move beyond blaming it and start improving the current situation. And that starts rooting out corrupt and lazy people in government. Be accountable for decisions you make and stop blaming someone else. Make informed and correct decisions to prevent wasteful expenditure and time. Government needs to be servants of the people and not themselves. This is not George Orwell's 1984!

      Tshepo Maganedisa - 2013-04-11 11:08

      Nic couldnt have said it better myself, the list of things still needed to be done (the one's you mentioned) iyoo i definately think you asking too much, i mean the ANC and accountability and JZ and correct decisions *highly unlikely* - ANC has failed the people of SA period

  • warren-rodel - 2013-04-11 09:51

    Mantashe is an a$$ kisser, if he doesn't he will get fired just like the rest, shame this poor guy doesn't have any real say.

      Tersia Louw - 2013-04-11 10:57

      I have a nasty feeling Trevor's days are numbered; he's paying a huge price for being dedicated, competent and efficient and expecting others to be the same.

      alan.gernet - 2013-04-11 11:03

      Tip for Trevor - Join the DA - you are much more intelligent than your current masters.

  • Jaz - 2013-04-11 09:52

    "If you are a young white graduate you are likely to have an uncle in the furniture business..." Smiles. I love that line. I think Zuma has got it right this time, although the focus should not be on blaming but on moving on. Before that happens Apartheid will always be alive - and just as wrong as back then.

      Sht Stirrer - 2013-04-11 12:16

      Maybe Zuma is correct, but for the wrong reasons. White youths are seriously screwed when it comes to bursaries, university quotas, and jobs at large corporates with BEE policies. For that reason I, as the owner of a small business, will only hire white and coloured youths. Not because I think there's something wrong with blacks, but because they are the currently advantaged group. I decided that I will be the "uncle in the furniture business" for deserving white and coloured youths, for whom most doors are closed, and I know that there are many other small business owners who think like me.

      Jaz - 2013-04-11 12:44

      My point exactly. Blacks were marginalized in the past. Remember how it felt, and learn from it. Don't make the same mistakes...or the hatred and polarity will only continue. Problem is, because the ANC quite obviously lack the ability to govern effectively, many African people are still stuck where they were back then. Worse off probably, considering that unemployment levels are up from the Apartheid years (Funny that, with no more economic sanctions). Only by growing the (1)labour skill profile and (2) the economy of SA can the nation be uplifted. Singapore, as late as the seventies still one of the poorest countries on the planet, did it in 20 years. It can be done. We just need different people to try.

      Justin Rose - 2013-04-11 13:05

      Sht Stirrer. I do the same. but isn't it sad, where we should hire the best we are forced to carry on the race line to try and equalise disparities. It's self defeating for SA.

  • Peejay MacLane - 2013-04-11 09:52

    Now this looks like ANC infighting where they oppose each other statements and backing others. I hope South Africans won't entertain their runts. Let them humiliate themselves while we prepare to vote for 2014 election

  • Sifiso Sosibo - 2013-04-11 09:53

    How the economy is gona be equally distributed IF state business's still awarded to same individuals who're politically connected almost 20years into democracy, Mr Mantashe?

      Ernica Stanford - 2013-04-11 10:34

      So very true! And that's the way they want to keep it. I think SAs only hope is for the very few intelligent, honest people with integrity within the ANC to maybe act against the ongoing theiving, corruption, nepotism, and incompetence to put the right person in charge, that will effect change.

      Izak Johannes Minnie - 2013-04-11 10:50

      yep your right friend

  • musa.kamashobane - 2013-04-11 09:54

    Birds of the same feather flock together, no surprises on this one.

  • Sam Mantori - 2013-04-11 09:54

    One is even to tired to f#(k!ng comment... But these excuses for human beings just prove in their own words that there is a separation between them and the whites... That they do not have the mental capacity to understand the concept of responsibility... That they do not have the ability to accept responsibility for their own freedom... And blaming someone else for your incompetence just proves your level of stupidity... F#(K people wake up...!!!

      Vin Savage - 2013-04-11 11:44

      Best comment here!! Only morons and losers blame something/somebody else for their own failures..! And the ANC are experts at it!

  • Wilbard Paa Paulus - 2013-04-11 09:55

    Karma in your face....lol

      Wilbard Paa Paulus - 2013-04-11 10:33

      blame Verwoerd he started all this....if only he thougth about the future

      Tersia Louw - 2013-04-11 10:59

      Wilbard - And Zuma's finishing it; do you think what Zuma's doing could be called nation building? Is Zuma thinking about the future?

      Wilbard Paa Paulus - 2013-04-11 11:05

      Zuma is also not learning from History.... Anc is making the same mistakes the NP did...

      HerpDerp - 2013-04-11 11:13

      How is this karma??? you think us white people WANTED apartheid?? do you not remember that the same white people voted out the SAME apartheid government because we too wanted a better life?? what the HELL is wrong with you??

      Ryan Kotze - 2013-04-11 11:19

      @ Wilbard. The day the white man leaves this country you are all so screwed!! South Africa will just become another piece of Africa land. There will be no TAX money to steal!! Now that will be Karma in your face!! ROFL!!!

      Vin Savage - 2013-04-11 11:51

      So true Ryan! There are but 1.5 million REAL taxpayers (mostly white) that have to carry the other 53 million in this country... Let's see what they do when that cash-cow runs dry - when 'karma' kicks them in the family jewels!

      Lisa Morris - 2013-04-11 11:51

      LOL I actually DO blame verwoerd. But don't you also think that the more you look back to the past, the less you can move forward? Don't you think you're sabotaging your OWN future and that of your nation by never letting go of the past? I think about how blacks were treated in apartheid and I weep inside. I have true sympathy. But it happened..there's nothing anyone can do about it to change that it happened. But don't you see? Your life is passing you by because all you can see is the obstacle that once was. It's gratifying to move on. to forgive. We (the general white folk) are NOT verwoerd. we come in peace..we mean no harm. Sure there will be racist white ppl...and they are JUST as stupid as the people leading this country.

  • Greg Martin - 2013-04-11 09:55

    Jacob Zuma still blames apartheid for the mess the country is in 20+ after the end of apartheid, does he also blame the corruption that his cronies in the ANC are committing on apartheid enriching themselves while's millions of people who votes and keep on voting them into power go hungry everyday , JZ plays the race card very well, next he is going to tell the white and coloured communities how important they are to making South Africa a success, to him that is just empty words he has to use to keep them happy all along thinking to himself that there is no place for them in RSA. With elections coming up next year, watch the ANC reaching out to these races and others with their empty promises about a better future for all in RSA.

  • Gmale - 2013-04-11 09:56

    GTFO!

  • DerekMain - 2013-04-11 09:57

    No surprise - just a way of deflecting responsibility. Phantsi cANCer, phantsi!!!

  • Sthembiso Jali - 2013-04-11 09:57

    In my village we still have gravel detour road with no runing water or eletricity, but the budget allocations are done on yearly basis. Must i blame apartheid for that ? Nonsense man.!

      Izak Johannes Minnie - 2013-04-11 10:54

      u know Sthembiso we all think all hope is lost in this country then along comes a black guy like yourself and hope springs up again I can only hope and pray that 40 million others can have your insight We can only Pray U summed it all up in 2 centances Thank u

      Justin Rose - 2013-04-11 11:41

      I feel for you, that is not right. Your story is the kind that psses me off, and where are the hundreds of thousands in taxes I pay, every year. Getting spent on Cars, houses and planes

      Lisa Morris - 2013-04-11 11:59

      now it wouldve been so easy for you to say "all whites have running water and electricity" but instead you looked at the real problem...your 'brothers who promised you all those things' all have electricity, water and proper sanitation. they always did..no human being idc what race you are can live in riches if they know what it feels like to be mr Jali's situation. NO black or white person would be able to spend the amounts of money our government spends, if they also went through what mr Jali went through. Human nature will not allow them to. So im convinced they've always had it good, otherwise why else is it so easy to turn a blind eye to people living like mr Jali

      alon.fisher.752 - 2013-04-11 13:58

      Nope Sthembiso cANCer thought building Nkandla is more important than developing your village.

  • heinrich.nel.35 - 2013-04-11 09:58

    Lol, an uncle in the furniture business? What is he implying? That ALL white people are guilty of nepotism? I thought that was solely an ANC strategy. How can our (I use the term "our" lightly) government be blatantly racist like this? O, sorry, forgot a bit about BBBEE, BEE, AA and all the other whack-job acronyms they've come up with. Isnt this why racist BEE was introduced in the first place? To ensure the employment of ALL CAPABLE black people in the work force by lowering the probability of white people being employed? Struggling to impose your own policies now hey Gwedi? The plot thickens and the despair broadens.

      davids5070276 - 2013-04-11 10:11

      Hmmm, a bit slow are we this morning Heinrich

      heinrich.nel.35 - 2013-04-11 10:19

      sorry davids, all this illiterate or retarded (just as you wish to call them) ANC mind-slaves are finally starting to rub off on me. . . How have you persisted to remain so clever through all this blatant incompetency?

      alan.gernet - 2013-04-11 11:06

      @Trevor - if you want to see racism - lok no further than the anc - they are obsessed with it!

      John Muil - 2013-04-11 11:13

      @ Trevor M - look at who? Which direction. Racism is rife and the government is not trying to improve racial issues with comments as Mantashe makes. It does take two to tango and at the moment the ANc is the piper.

      HerpDerp - 2013-04-11 11:15

      Trevor do you EVER see the DA making racist and hurtful comments about other races ?? NO! this tells you ALOT about the cANCer, they spark racial lines nearly every month and unwarranted by irrelevancy!

      alon.fisher.752 - 2013-04-11 14:09

      Trevor dude take a chill pill every race has its RACISTS!!!How many Blacks dislike whites,Coloureds or Indians and howmany Coloureds dislike blacks,Indians etc? You basically accusing us of the samething alot of your countrymen are guilty of. What your neighbour meaned was you not like those skollies who do rob,steal etc; but this behaviour is not restricted to your brethen plenty of blacks,whites,indians do it too. You wanna know why?cause cANCer gives criminals three meals a day,tv,radio etc while you and me live behind burglar bars but you know that by now. As for the stereotype I hate to say it there will always be a bunch of mamparas out there to give the rest of the Coloured community a bad name and this generates fear and distrust amongst the other population groups.

  • Mike van Vuuren - 2013-04-11 09:58

    #James M Wood, with respect, zero improvement...it's a 1000 plus % backwards ... too much living in the past and no focus on current / future issues ... NO FORESIGHT WHATSOEVER and as such are always looking for an easy way out, "Blame apartheid, that'll sort out the problems" ... wonder if they think that the world actually believes them ... s'pose apartheid is also to blame for the wholesale corruption, the violence, the lawlessness, NO service and delivery, the nepotism, the SABC, SAA, SAP, EDUCATION SYSTEM (or lack of it) and just about everything else that they touch BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA ... it's a never ending comedy OR circus! The sooner they apply the adage of 'No future in the past' the better...

  • Lucky Ndzoyiya - 2013-04-11 09:59

    ja ne comrade GS

  • Tshivhule Phumudzo - 2013-04-11 10:02

    guys myself ihave got no one to blame bcoz one thing dat we must knw,RSA in dis stage we are runing out of peoples who are having a leadership skill is all about coruption and racism in the paliment,

      daan.vandenberg.773 - 2013-04-11 11:39

      Hi Gwede. Who will you ask for money to have an election in 10 years. Maybe Zimbabwe Zero Intelligence Mainly Because All Brainy Whites Emigrated (LOL)

  • Jay Sean - 2013-04-11 10:03

    Average IQ in the ANC 40points. Even forrest gump scored 69

  • Fox Trixter - 2013-04-11 10:04

    very true comrade Mantashe!

      daan.vandenberg.773 - 2013-04-11 11:56

      Now let's ask Zimbabwe for a loan.

      Lisa Morris - 2013-04-11 13:29

      @ daan LAG EK MY NOU IN MY MOER

  • Jean Bence - 2013-04-11 10:04

    Ah so we are now comparing apartheid with the holocaust. Yes they seem very similar...

      Erba Thompson - 2013-04-11 12:58

      Seeing all these comparisons are made then they must also include the thousands of women and children killed in the boer war concentration camps! That had a massive impact and I don't recall any apologies. In fact that is a prime comparison to the holocaust.

      Lisa Morris - 2013-04-11 13:30

      @ ERBA..NOTHING is a prime comparison to the holocaust.

  • barry.savage.33 - 2013-04-11 10:04

    Pathetic!

  • Agedah Alex - 2013-04-11 10:05

    Is apartheid to be blame on the rate of rape in S.A?

      alon.fisher.752 - 2013-04-11 14:16

      Yep if Gwede is using that formula I wonder howmany Holocaust survivors and their descendants are out their raping kids and elderly women?

  • Karl Klopjag - 2013-04-11 10:05

    Blaming doesn't help.

  • Eugene Briel - 2013-04-11 10:06

    There are two words that are so easily used in South Africa, they are (1) "Apartheid" and (2) "Racist". I wonder if people really know that as long as these two words are so freely used by our "So Called Democratically Elected Government" this country of ours will never but never have the "Promised Freedom" that was negotiated in 1992. Promises are being made by this government which are never kept. That simply is the answer to this countries problems, "Corrupt Majority in Government and when one of their Own Trevor Manual says stop blaming "Apartheid for your misgivings" all Hell breaks loose.

      alon.fisher.752 - 2013-04-11 14:19

      As much as I hate to say it Israelis do it as well when their military is questioned for human rights violations. Anti-Semitism and the Holocaust is waved about in every ones face.

  • Phillip Mpinga - 2013-04-11 10:06

    Apartheid make south africa a 2 in 1 country,is not simply to fix damage leave by apartheid,they use to give themself everything,it was brother to brother country

      Juvan Olivier - 2013-04-11 11:12

      Please get educated on the matter, before making comments you idiot!

      daan.vandenberg.773 - 2013-04-11 11:59

      I STILL look after my "brother" It is high time YOUR "brother" starts looking after you, and NOT ONLY after HIMSELF.

      alon.fisher.752 - 2013-04-11 14:21

      Juvan why call him an idiot? As Daan said his brothers in power that he voted in must look after him(thats assuming he did vote for the ANC then he is just brainwashed and not an idiot.)

  • Sagren Padayachie - 2013-04-11 10:07

    I wonder if anyone values Mantashe's opinion anymore.

      daan.vandenberg.773 - 2013-04-11 12:00

      Is he not the other voice in the wildernes?

  • toniindisgust - 2013-04-11 10:08

    Trevor Manuel for PRESIDENT.. finally someone who can see that the future of this country relies on being able to move forward... together!

  • Marti Marthinus - 2013-04-11 10:10

    I have an uncle in the furniture business... but he gives me nothing! I have to study and work for the few things I want in life!

  • Stephen Leigh - 2013-04-11 10:11

    Dinosaurs in the ANC will never evolve if they are constantly looking backwards!

      Lisa Morris - 2013-04-11 13:31

      they probably don't believe in evolution because Darwin was white so surely it can't be true

      alon.fisher.752 - 2013-04-11 14:25

      We have a Verwoerdosaurius which is now extinct, hopefuly the Zumasaurus and Mantashesaurus will follow suite. Like Apartheid the ANC belongs in a museum, a liberation movement is to liberate a country not govern one, if the ANC dissolved and then made a joint party with the nats or DP we wouldnt be sitting in this puddle of piss!!!

  • Gert Diedericks - 2013-04-11 10:11

    How long are they going to blame apartheid for there misteik

      alan.gernet - 2013-04-11 11:07

      huh?

  • Mashudu Matamela - 2013-04-11 10:11

    You are wright Gwede apartheid is still alive under this government because you hire only your friends and relatives. Why are you still blaming the previous government, is it because this time it is worse?

  • Graham Du Toit - 2013-04-11 10:12

    spineless single digit iq creeps will always blame someone else for their inability to do anything (other than rape and plunder)!

  • Tolo Maano - 2013-04-11 10:12

    I agree with mantashe ....I blame apartheid ...it makes people to steal more 200 millions to build a house(home)

      daan.vandenberg.773 - 2013-04-11 12:02

      You forgot a few zeros

  • Democrazy - 2013-04-11 10:13

    Ofcos boss blame away - keeps you drunk on power that which you cannot use! Our kids and grandkids will be blaming you and the anc for what they have to put up 20 yrs from now! Take the responsibility like you expect the nats to!

  • Kia Brown - 2013-04-11 10:13

    Trevor Manuel would make a classy South African President :-)

      alan.gernet - 2013-04-11 10:42

      yip - the man had intelligence and accountability and honesty on his side. (Much like Mac) bwwwaaahaaaaaaa

      alon.fisher.752 - 2013-04-11 14:30

      yep he aint black or white so we might just stop worrying about who is in charge of the country, but actually run the darn place properly. If he joins any rival party being the DA or Agang he gets my vote, but due to his continous presence in cANCer where he is wasting his potential I can't support him(why doesnt he start his own party)he managed to rescue us from the global recession so he cant be that bad a leader.

  • William Mohlolo - 2013-04-11 10:13

    Mantashe and Zuma you are responsible for dividing the Anc, declining of Anc members and poor living conditions of South Africans. You are going to the books of Anc as bad leaders ever. We are not living in the past so, we can't blaming apartheid for your failures. Our focus are on you now and we expect you to work for the people not to make us fools here. We want better life for all South Africans not only for family and friends.

      alon.fisher.752 - 2013-04-11 14:35

      William forget the ANC it's not the same ANC that Madiba and Tambo strived for but a bunch of nepotistic crooks freeloading off a gravy train. Tata Madiba even said"If the ANC government do to you what the ANC did to Apartheid,you must do the same to them." So just dont vote for the ANC expecting what Madiba envisioned there are plenty of others out there.

  • Skrywer John Murray McKay - 2013-04-11 10:14

    If the cat gets kittens- blame apartheid. Pathetic excuse for a government

  • Lums Zindela - 2013-04-11 10:14

    This now is telling me that this government is not gonna do anything, as long as they have this apartheid bush to hide on. When are you going to show to the people what you've achieved? Oh sorry there's nothing to show.

  • George Mnguni - 2013-04-11 10:15

    We cannot blame apartheid for corruption, nepotism and misdirecting of state resources for personal use. Trevor Manuel is a realist who wants solutions for challenges that the ANC can solve. We all know that structurally Apartheid caused a lot of damage, which would still be with us for a long time. When municipal officials fail to answer to your land request that cannot be blamed on previous system.

      Aine Byrne - 2013-04-11 11:12

      George, you are very well spoken and see both sides. Much respect.

  • Jaco Bruwer - 2013-04-11 10:15

    "If you are a young white graduate you are likely to have an uncle in the furniture business" What a bunch on bull crap. My father worked at spoor net none of them was rich or average. We were below your average family income, in 2000 when my father died (Age 49) his salary was R3000 - R4000 per month for 23 years service. Not all whites was rich, u had black people who was rich as well. Stop blaming apartheid, or are u referring to a new type of apartheid after 1994??? Apartheid ended in 1991 .... 22 years ago.

  • John Muil - 2013-04-11 10:15

    Gift Ndlovu says it will take at least 50 years before ANC can sort out the "mess". I must agree with him. Any normal and competent government would have sorted it out already and be moving and looking forward!

  • Jannie Venter - 2013-04-11 10:15

    Stop being a victim and start being a survivor.

  • Bra N'Darkie - 2013-04-11 10:15

    Our lives today r still affected by apartheid. When it stopped we didn't suddenly own farms. Well I blame Codesa!

      Regte Boer - 2013-04-11 10:26

      Moron there are only about 100,000 farms in SA. How do you want to divide that between 50,000,000 people. You are really beyond stupid.

      alan.gernet - 2013-04-11 10:44

      why . some whiteys were given farms? (Or did they work for them, buy them, and make them productive?) Eish - the Gimme Gimme mentality vs the Educated.

      HerpDerp - 2013-04-11 12:26

      BRA DARKIE YOU NEVER HAD OWNERSHIP OF LAND TO BEGIN WITH!!

      alon.fisher.752 - 2013-04-11 14:39

      What do you know about farming?Or do you want to end up like Zimbabwe?

  • jcistheman - 2013-04-11 10:16

    How did we end up with another racist government?!?!?!

      alan.gernet - 2013-04-11 10:46

      perhaps already worse than the old govt. at it's worst. Like Madiba said - if the anc government does to you what the apartheid govt did, you should get rid of them too. Tick Tock Tick Tock

  • Justin Pretorius - 2013-04-11 10:16

    The mind boggles as to how this country can even be led by the Afro-Nazis