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Mantashe warns farmers of 'Marikana'

2012-10-11 14:35

Johannesburg - Established farmers need to take emerging farmers under their wing to avoid a "Marikana" type of uprising, ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said on Thursday.

"Help emerging farmers... if you are not doing that you are going to have restlessness," he told the Agri SA congress in Muldersdrift.

Mantashe said the wildcat strikes across the country, including the violent illegal strike at Lonmin's platinum mine in Marikana in August, were not "merely about wages".

"We are not benefiting from the wealth of the country. Wake up."

Farmers must be part of change in the country, he said.

Black emerging farmers who had not previously had access to land, now lacked skills.

"The question of dispossession... is equally the process of de-skilling," he said.

Mantashe told the farmers there was no shame in state intervention in the economy, but said "wholesale nationalisation would be a disaster".

"You are not going to see a land grab without compensation under the ANC."

Instead land redistribution should be done to primarily favour food security.

"Everything else is secondary," he said.

He said land redistribution should be underpinned by improved efficiencies in the recapitalisation and development programmes offered to emerging farmers. At the moment, the programmes were implemented too slowly.

The land audit, being undertaken by the rural development and land reform department, needed to be completed.

"We must know what we are talking about, we must not guess," Mantashe said.
There needed to be certainty about land owned by the state, land bought for redistribution, and land that was "off the radar".

"I suspect that there's more land that has gone to those (black) farmers that buy farms privately than land that has been redistributed through the land programme."

Land bought privately by black farmers was not quantified, which was a problem.

Earlier this year, Land Reform Minister Gugile Nkwinti said the audit would be completed by June.

However, at the African National Congress's policy conference in June, it was announced it would be completed by December.

Mantashe called on Agri SA to give regular input to government to help shape policy.

Comments
  • kala.bafazi - 2012-10-11 14:40

    Jeez and just earlier there was an article about how the "emerging farmers" who have received land and had it developed still don't want to work and earn money. Sorry Mantashe until you can eradicate the beggar bowl attitude of your prople then the quest for ecomomic freedom shall remain a pipe dream.

      arthurenlouise.tarr - 2012-10-11 14:49

      Here IT COMES People!!! Like I said WAR in this Country Is about to go full scale> Prepare yourself!!

      kala.bafazi - 2012-10-11 14:54

      Here is an extract from the said article which sums up their attitude quite nicely. "Kenny Ntshandase, municipal director of economic development, said the project and similar projects failed for several reasons. "We provided the money for a start-up opportunity, with the aim being that the recipients would generate a profit, maintain the project and save a portion of the profits to reinvest and do the necessary repairs. "These people just want salaries, but when they have to do the work, they aren't happy," he said."

      daleinn - 2012-10-11 14:55

      That sounds like as THREAT?!!!Does the constitution not protect the rights of all... even the government and its stupide toll roads.. if so then the ANC is playing politics instead of governing the country.. bcos.. they should have intervened LONG before a Marikana.. is that the image they should be proud of using the name of Marikana is a disgrace to the inefficiency of labor unions and government to deal with such matters!~!!

      james.weather.50 - 2012-10-11 14:55

      Another racist threatening comment by Gwede …. I think you should retire … you look like your 102

      Rob.Trianglem - 2012-10-11 15:04

      Now just look at that intelligent face LOL.

      jackie.stone.501 - 2012-10-11 15:10

      Good Mantashe, now you just gave us an idea we never thought of

      max.reynecke - 2012-10-11 15:20

      We are not benefiting says the black elitist with a farm of his own...Mantashe is a hypocritical racist swine that invites racial hate.

      fly.onthewall.54 - 2012-10-11 15:45

      Breed rabbits our dear farmers, breed rabbits. They work better that security fences...

      johann.buys.5 - 2012-10-11 15:54

      the farmers are to busy farming and avoiding farm attacks and murders that they realy have no spare time to train " wanabe farmers"

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-10-11 16:07

      How devious is the ANC - running up to leadership elections. Promises made to the black people and threats made to the enemy (whites). How can you sleep at night sowing the poison and division that you are busy with. How about getting actively involved in true changes in the country - how about fixing your messed up school system to educate your people. You are evil - that is all I can say. Passing every single responsibility back to the whites in the country to move attention away from your own evil deeds against your people

      Cameron - 2012-10-11 16:10

      @ Cliff and poliodonky Are the blacks then going to give it back to the Khoi? The original inhabitants?

      john.smit.121772 - 2012-10-11 16:42

      Is that idiot promoting farm killings?

      gilbert.sampson.50 - 2012-10-11 16:45

      Mantashe, you are a f*^&$%king clown. Go back to the circus where you belong. When you get a education maybe grade 2 or higher you can re-apply for your job.

      ansie.b.badenhorst - 2012-10-11 18:21

      Why don't the people in our wonderful government stop enriching themselves and start building agricultural colleges and PAY the farmers to teach them how to farm? How many colleges can be built with the money that Zuma is spending on Zumaville? How much corruption and stealing tax payers money is going on in the government? Now the buck has to be passed on to the white people to render their services for mahalla. You are underestimating our farmers, they are not that stupid!!!!!

      Michael - 2012-10-11 18:55

      I am not from South Africa and do not live there! But this looks exactly like a repeat of what happened in Zimbabwe!? Or am I wrong?

      ansie.b.badenhorst - 2012-10-11 19:32

      @Micheal Yes you are dead right......at the moment Malema is running the country and Mugabe is his great friend and mentor...what do you expect????

      omo.naija.750 - 2012-10-11 20:04

      I am no fan of the ANC or Manteshe but you guys are seriously over reacting? It seems everyone in SA is angry and always get into battle mode at the slightest perceived provocation. Manstashe did not threaten anyone,he is just not good at conveying his message in subtle tones.Now let's analyse what i believe everyone is calling a threat : "Help emerging farmers... if you are not doing that you are going to have restlessness" What i think he is saying is that those who know should share their knowledge with those who don't so to as promote unity in the farming community and avoid tensions.In all countries all over the world established farmers offer help to emerging farmers ,i don't see any thing wrong with that.In fact it will bring down barriers in the farming community and foster racial unity. The man did say that they will not grab land without compensation,how that translates to a declaration of war is beyond me.I know the ANC is hated by many but sometimes we must anaylse their statements without a biased mind.For once i agree with mantashe's comment ,it was not inflammatory at all.It was an advice and a very good one at that.Whether the established farmers and the emerging farmers will take it is another story.

      heathway.master - 2012-10-11 21:01

      For the first time a politician has actually talked sense. If the blacks had not been so bent on revenge and racialism, causing them to immediately get rid of whites in every Government Department, Municipality and Parastatal , the whole running of the country would have been a huge success. The white skills and experience could have been passed onto the blacks, and when they were ready, they could have been elevated to management positions, as they would then have had the necessary skills and competence to manage successfully. Rather semi - literate, non skilled, completely incompetent cadre appointments were made for all senior positions in Government and Municipal institutions. The holy mess that almost every single appointee has made, is their own responsibility and fault. Greed, privilege, entitlement, wealth and power, were just too strong a magnet to resist.

      ansie.b.badenhorst - 2012-10-11 22:20

      @heathwaymaster you have hit the right on the head, but what I can't understand is why can they not realize that you can not do a job if you are not qualified to do it. In a survey a few weeks ago it was found that 0.04% of people working for municipalities were competent to perform their duties. Now they want to know why our municipalities are in such a mess??? Look what happened on that government farm where all the cattle were left to die!!! If they can't even perform simple duties such as FEED ANIMALS, then I truly don't know, or is it the white farmer's fault for not teaching them how to feed animals?

      Watkykj - 2012-10-12 00:00

      The only thing we scared of is our beloved country getting destroyed.......and I'm sure many educated people of color will agree!

      gerald.parker.3956 - 2012-10-12 06:33

      Sakhile.gamede You are right what goes around comes around when the whites arrived here your forefathers had nothing( no currency, no farms nothing) and just noe you lot will be have (NOTHING currency just like Zimbabwe and no farms)

      darryn.lahner - 2012-10-12 10:42

      I waaaant..... I waaaant..... you MUST help me..... I waaaaant...... I waaaaant.

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-10-12 10:45

      here is a link showing how Zimbabwe got destroyed! And how the blacks regret getting rid of the white leaders... because they are worse off they say. This is the direction Sout Africa is headed if people do not wake up and stop following blindly... that way is not going to lead you to a better place... the ANC will make this country worse and the poor will be poorer. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/08/opinion/08kristof.html?ref=opinion&_r=0 http://www.thezimbabwean.co.uk/comment/opinion/59823/how-politicians-destroyed-jobs.html http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/tekere.15808.html Can everyone who believe the ANC will save this country please read these article and WAKE THE HELL UP... PLEASE!

      ian.dejongh.562 - 2012-10-12 10:57

      It's like beeing highjacked and then beeing forced to teach the highjacker how to drive away with your car.

      kirsten.a.foster.100 - 2012-10-12 11:21

      Polo; this was not an article about salaries are you blind. It's about skills!

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-10-12 13:57

      @omonaija; I proposed about 2 years ago that a mentoring program be set up to go along with "willing seller willing buyer." A farmer approaching retirement whose children and grandchildren have no interest in farming gets a "new" farming family to live and work the land with him. This person, through Unisys, take the appropriate agri, finance, even equipment repair courses. And after 5 years of this the farmer retires, the new farmer takes over. Since most of the willing buyer willing seller is paid for by the government then this new commercial farmer is obligated to do the same for another farmer or two. This would help solve the problem of the once productive commercial farm being turned into a subsistence farm. Nothing can turn a substance farmer into a commercial farmer faster than to see the rewards that can be there.

      larissa.goosen - 2012-10-12 15:24

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X38CW6l-em4&feature=related

      hugh.robinson.56 - 2012-10-12 18:26

      Of coarse this is also a veiled threat. I for one is not entirely sure how wage demands and Black farming gel. Sorry reading again this is a threat to farmers

  • piet.snot.77964 - 2012-10-11 14:41

    "Mantashe called on Agri SA to give regular input to government to help shape policy." I suspect that Agri SA has given regular input to the government but nothing has been done with their input - especially on the safety and security of farmers!

      walter.headstrong - 2012-10-11 15:09

      I suspect we'll see more of these kind of provocative stories in the coming weeks. The ANC is getting so much bad publicity at the moment, that they'll do and say anything to shift the public and the media's attention...

      fanie.viljoen.73 - 2012-10-11 15:14

      Mantashe talks politics, and does what politicians do best, nothing, they just promise and provoke.

      ben.spreeth - 2012-10-11 15:33

      Yesterday I thought Mantashe is no fool. Today is a different day.

      philip.vde - 2012-10-11 15:43

      And even your forefathers could not use the land to it's potential !!!

      Willie - 2012-10-11 15:48

      Let's go back to basics: 1 > Open all agricutural colleges 2 > Reccruit students who are willing to farm 3 > Get farmers who are willing to mentor/contribute their time 4 > Create "Kibbutz"get students to holiday there during school vacations MAKE FARMING COOL TO YOUNG ONES

      Andrea - 2012-10-11 15:56

      makenawn, that's not going to work, because they don't want to work. However I second your proposal.

      croix.mactee - 2012-10-12 04:23

      Fanie Viljoen - They say politicians and nappies should be changed regularly - for the SAME REASON! Looks like another old "sub-prime" mistake (or is that sub-primate?). Anyway, 'pretty she aint'!

  • ed.gutsche - 2012-10-11 14:42

    ummmm Gwede, is that not what YOU and your corrupt government is supposed to be doing? so very easy for you to defer everything to the private sector. between yourself and mr showerhead zooooma now telling mine companies that they pay too little, you should both be dropped down a mineshaft, without a bungi cord. wow, amazing to think that jakob showerhead has actually woken-up to the fact that there are massive problems in the mining sector...idiot, i reeckon that he smokes too much weed in his nkandla bunker, which is why he is soooo switched off.

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-11 15:06

      @ed. Weed makes you "slowed-up" not Stupid.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-10-11 15:09

      Leave the good herb out of this.

      darryl.maze.5 - 2012-10-11 15:41

      If they want black farmers then they must teach them. They go on at how white farmers stole there land and this and that and now they want the white farmers to teach them how to farm for free. Go to school and then go study agriculture.

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-10-12 09:58

      Most people seem to have missed the point. Mantashe, a member of the ruling party has threatened the farmers of South Africa that they will become the victims of mob violence unless they give up part of their assets and time. This to help those, the Government, run by the party of which he is a senior member, should be helping. Sounds suspiciously like blackmail to me. Why doesn't he give up 10% of his salary to finance agricultural education for the formerly disadvantaged?

  • izak.greyling - 2012-10-11 14:43

    If this is not blatant intimidation, I don't know what is.

      bibi.vanzyl - 2012-10-11 15:06

      more like a threat, I'd say.

  • stefan.madden - 2012-10-11 14:45

    Will be better if this Uhuru will just start so we can fight this war and get it over with. The ANC are all a bunch of retarded racist f$%ks. Try "uprise" near my property and all you will get is a very fast shiny projectile in the head.

      ludlowdj - 2012-10-11 14:59

      To steal a phrase " I love the smell of napalm in the morning"

      armand.horn.58 - 2012-10-11 15:10

      How long must we still endure threats like these?

      loki.scribus - 2012-10-11 15:58

      @ludlowdj Scorched Earth? Awesome game.

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-10-12 10:08

      at least you know you wont get many years in prison for killing them... you could just say... you didnt know that pointing a gun and pulling the trigger could kill those people!

      bradley.kecskes - 2012-10-12 11:03

      Anarchist cook book V2.9 FTW

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-10-11 14:45

    Blacks have been dispossessed for ever under the tribal structures, get rid of traditional tribal land control and empower the people to farm their own piece of land, knowledge is learned and not given, Gwede once again tries to be populace, thank heaven the old man is old, South Africa won't have to listen to this one's hate speeches for much longer. What is he trying to do rally the troops against the farmers, scare the farmers....what? He shows his idiocy, while living the high life, as chocolate sprinkles on top of the cream in the Irish Coffee Society

      ludlowdj - 2012-10-11 14:56

      Spot on the blacks nation has never really understood that their own tribal belief system and hierarchy structure is what made them slaves and keeps them slaves. The only thing the masses have done is replace their masters, they are still slaves.

      glen.e.huysamer - 2012-10-11 14:59

      Was this what Marikanna was about, kill black South African's in front of the world so you can send troops in on white South African farmers? Gwede were you behind the killings at Marikanna????? You start to use it as a political tool. This is what the ANC has become......cANCer to South African society,......you are the Church of Satin... go drink that Irish Coffee you like so much.

      fussed.anderson - 2012-10-11 15:11

      The are tooooooo stupid to up any game

      glen.e.huysamer - 2012-10-11 15:43

      Mthokozisi you seem to be one of those that want it all and want it now.... the young generation want to 'mixit', they want to drag down the main road, they want to travel the world, work in air-conditioned offices, and dress well....play in the band...be on TV, dance and chew bubble gum, this is the half that stays in school, have got parents who are wise enough to know that the way up is never easy, the other half of the youth (mostly the rural) have babies so that they can get that pathetic welfare from the ANC ruling party, they leave the children behind with their old grandparents, while they use that money to buy airtime so they can call their sugar daddies, buy gum to chew on street corners, hoping that the ANC will come on day and give them a house, a car, a farm, a cow.... Up what game...you guys have no game, no plan, you want, what exactly? To overcome your unattainable situation, so 50million blacks must have what 2.5million whites have that means you will have to share 25 to 1 what will you have at the end of the day, a spare tyre to a car, the cover of a cell phone, a key board to a computer, one cigarette shared, the front gate to a farm so what are you threatening, the only thing I see in the threat is that the majority is incapable of empowering and growing themselves and have decided to remain inferior in the world by claiming that the whites stole it all.

      Andrea - 2012-10-11 16:05

      Glen, you speak a truth. Reality is indeed so far removed from what television is teaching the youth. However bear in mind that probably less than half of the 2.5mil whites have much of anything to take, therefore this person/it will have to share that spare tyre with fourteen others, hope there is some tread left.

      kala.bafazi - 2012-10-11 16:27

      Mthokozisi - If you are a professional then please conduct yourself in a professional manner. This would include checking your work for spelling errors.

      willie.botha.9480 - 2012-10-11 16:32

      @mthokozisi.ndlovu.108 . What you don't understand is that you are a racist yourself. And how you blame other people and not see it in yourself only you will know. You are most probably are one of those people who thinks denial is a river in Egypt. All the best. I hope you become the person you claim to be.

      glen.e.huysamer - 2012-10-11 16:34

      At Mthokozisi Okay I apologize, I see that there is a line there that may seem to attack you in your person, this I apologies humble for, please accept that my comments are not pointed at any person or person directly, and my comment are not aimed at you personally, I am a bit concerned though that you felt that it was, and that this is your point of return, instead of arguing that maybe my statements that I would definitly place in a category of over generalization, none of this you refute, for this I must say I am a bit heartbroken, aggrieved and emotional, because what I say must therefore be the truth, and I am certainly not happy that it is. I would rather have a million millionaires as my neighbor rather than having 40million poverty stricken and poorly educated people as my neighbors, I pay my taxes and the ANC steals it, and does not empower the majority of South Africa, They have come to think that by stealing the money and enriching the few, that this is what empowering is, sadly enough this is what the majority seem to think, now they blatantly threaten the farmers again and publicly claim that if they do not do what the ANC want, the farmers can expect a Marikana. Come on Mthokozisi, who is the failure here... the question you should answer yourself, my international accepted and winged professional who shouts racist. Who is the failure here? Relying on the ANC to get you out of oppression, only to still feel oppressed by me twenty years later???

      kala.bafazi - 2012-10-11 16:46

      Mthokozisi I don't claim to be a proffessional and then carry on like a school boy. Unlike you, hanging out in the sand pit of Saudi, I prefer to stay here and contribute directly to this country. Some of what you type (professionally no doubt) makes no sense whatsoever. For example: "What wrong with you grow there is danger stirling you in the face" I don't understand what you are trying to say. Is it professional lingo or is that the education the anc provided you with?

      stephanie.sutherland41 - 2012-10-11 23:58

      @mthokozizi -you are very naive if you think it will go well with SA if you try a Zimbabwe. Their are to many South Africans overseas and that is something you have to realise, they are working, having children and educating them. They watch they wait. Don't count your chickens, SA has all races accept it because they will be back.

      merven.halo - 2012-10-12 08:34

      "I am a professional all my successes were not given to me on a platter" Yea right, you're not a AA or BEE candidate, why don't I believe you?

  • bennie.theunissen.3 - 2012-10-11 14:45

    Bring on "marikana" it's about time!! These threats from an incompetent ANC government is laughable!! The first thing you Gwede and the rest of your spineless fat cats will do is run like jackals!

  • joe.blogs.98837399 - 2012-10-11 14:46

    What a clutz. Lets get rid of all this Black White Rubbish http://www.endaffirmativeaction.co.za

  • Willie - 2012-10-11 14:48

    Mantashe must be smoking something, ohh!!!!! this is about the coming elective conference

      loki.scribus - 2012-10-11 16:03

      Yeah, every time it's close to elections someone from the ANC gets the brass to spout some type of contentious drivel.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-11 20:21

      The farmers should starve the delegates to the conference...

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-10-12 13:29

      No he in't smoking anything, it's that Irish Coffee he drinking non stop !

  • daniel.mahoney.za - 2012-10-11 14:50

    Ag shame - the poor emerging farmers.... Spoon feed them or else you will have an uprising on your hands. WTF - government should spoon feed them. Why would you go say that in a public forum anyway, idiot!! You probably want to put the idea out there for them to use it....

      armand.horn.58 - 2012-10-11 15:11

      Correct! Very irresponsible words he has uttered!

      rocky.bell.927 - 2012-10-14 10:08

      Spot on Daniel.

  • george.slade.161 - 2012-10-11 14:53

    The Poor Sods --Just cant hack it by themselves : It starts with an Education : Educate the Farmers Yourself --Why the hell should existing farmers do so !! I,m not surprised they rattle on about their famous "Struggle". Regrettably for all they will struggle until death --Useless clueless socialist Cadre Plonkers .

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-10-12 13:30

      George it's called lack of grey matter !

  • gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-11 14:55

    F**k you mantashe. You basically making an open threat. Established hard working farmers teach their skills to these so called emerging farmers and then what happens?? It's all to clear what your intentions are.

  • kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-10-11 14:55

    This now actually hinting that the strikes should spread to the farms? Auto suggestion they call it. So, this is how you actually want to nationalize the mines, farms and next up the banks right?

      Dinesh - 2012-10-12 11:39

      Y

  • hennie.buys1 - 2012-10-11 14:57

    Well I don't know..."restlessness"? How many farmers have been murdered so far?

  • andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-11 14:57

    Ag ou Gwedi, "Farmers must be part of change in the country, he said."://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Rural-upliftment-project-fails-20121011 is a good reference. There are two things farmers "must" do; one of them is eat, the other is... (cannot divulge it here as my comment will be deleted. ""We must know what we are talking about, we must not guess," Exactly !!

  • vambozha.mutemi.9 - 2012-10-11 14:59

    Welcome to Zimbabwe

      firstseed.mbeva - 2012-10-11 15:26

      RSA=Zimbabwe in the making

  • trevor.mashilo - 2012-10-11 15:02

    Comrade Mantashe I think u r out of line,u need Discipline.U r inciting violence against innocent Farmers.Hai

      gail.allanlutz - 2012-10-11 15:06

      I totally agree Trevor. Someone needs to gag him as everything he has said and that has been reported over the last 24 hours, is incitement to violence.

      trevor.mashilo - 2012-10-11 15:17

      Stormy were should we report him for inciting violence,NPA or Human Rights Council.

      brendan.vogt.1 - 2012-10-11 15:31

      Trevor, I know there are a lot of people out there who do not agree with this idiot. Do you think he is the "whiskey" or the "chocolate sprinkles" ????

      gail.allanlutz - 2012-10-11 16:10

      Well we know the HRC moves like a snail so NPA seems to be the countries last hope in all things righteous.

  • Erna - 2012-10-11 15:03

    Everyone and their mother is threatening with Marikana. Now the farmers must be scared - of land invasions? What is the government doing to protect its people?

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-10-12 10:30

      Nothing!

  • ingrid.oberholzer - 2012-10-11 15:03

    What has been happening for the last 18 years, going concerns has been given to emerging farmers and they do not want help, when the farm has been ridden into the ground then the farmers get the blame. Also the farmers are getting murdered with no protection or sympathy from government and what has Marikana got to do with farming. This guy likes the sound of his own voice.

  • harold.parsons.37 - 2012-10-11 15:05

    If Mantashe says that restlessness is coming you can be sure he has already sent people out to mobilise the masses and he will give the order for violence to break out in agriculture and then tell a lie that he knows nothing about it . That is the way ANC operate

  • bibi.vanzyl - 2012-10-11 15:05

    How can you blame established farmers (white?) for the lack of skills and possible Marikana-like uprising of the emerging farmers. That is like telling them to do so. I know plenty farmers who have given their time but still could not make any progress. The government promised the earth to these guys and then just dumped them without the necessary knowledge. So Gwede this is all your fault.

  • eyesears.handsfeet - 2012-10-11 15:06

    mantashe you seriously need to wake up. You cannot benefit from the lands minerals and resources if you are not willing to work for it. Another thing: The ancyl were brought under the impression that in the good old days, blacks had the most beautiful and successful farms. So why not now? Why do they keep on needing money from the government? Your skills and mentality today says alot. Be very careful that you don't choke and drown in your own poisonous venom.

  • bbooyse - 2012-10-11 15:08

    This sounds like a threat, not a warning

      bevan.carpenter.1 - 2012-10-11 15:37

      father bobby, its political lobbying to the uneducated farm aids. so sad to see him incite violence

  • masamune.azeem - 2012-10-11 15:08

    White farmers, were hired by the government to make sure that the black farmer succeeds? this is ridiculous. its not the white farmers responsibility to make sure the black farmer succeeds. Im black and what this dude is saying is ridiculous. secretary general you might wanna train the black farmers first before giving them land to farm on.

      Gatvol Griet - 2012-10-11 15:25

      Thank you!! Someone sees the idiotic reasoning and enslavement of whites-mentality we are subjected to. All it takes is a little common sense!

      masamune.azeem - 2012-10-11 15:43

      The sick thing is that this guy is threatening white farmers indirectly.He should be taken to jail for saying something like this. To think that he's the secretary general, yah neh

      fussed.anderson - 2012-10-11 15:56

      Obama was put there to make zoomer succeed, what happened there?????

      alan.jerrold - 2012-10-11 16:24

      Good on you, masamune. I guarantee that 95% of White folk are thrilled when Black folk succeed through education and hard work. What we are mad about is the greed and incompetence of the ANC that is raping the country for its own selfish ends, blaming everybody else - and in the end, it's the poor, who blindly support the ANC - who are suffering. How sick is that?

  • jomar.delange - 2012-10-11 15:10

    How about the government support the black farmers who know what they are doing, because I know for a fact they are not doing it. Why not train emerging farmers? I wonder how many emerging farmers can be trained and set up with OUR Zumaville money?

  • pat.aldrich.96 - 2012-10-11 15:13

    Come and say this on my farm and I. Promise you a xay of morning will be held next week. Idiot

  • Teuneman - 2012-10-11 15:13

    Sounds like a death threat against whites to me.

  • Arno Lotz - 2012-10-11 15:15

    read the comments of masamune.azeem and trevor mashilo.if everybody just have their wisdom,this land can go forward.thumbs up guys!

  • sandor.l.varga - 2012-10-11 15:15

    One that stupid comment from the ANC aaarsehole

  • iwhite.whitebone - 2012-10-11 15:15

    Better visit site www.boers.ge ,goverment in Republic of Georgia(Europe) offers land and help to RSA farmers

  • jaques.muller.96 - 2012-10-11 15:18

    Matashe is calling for a civil war. It's time we face reality and prepare, as sitting and watching these lazy, greedy workers class is not going to pass. The minorties needs to prepare for the worst. Skill lacked is not our fault, but their own. No one were prepared to start from the bottom. They got everything for mahala, but thought everything just happens on it's own. Stop blaming the past you twat. Skill shortage is because of the ANC and it's alliances policies. Even they got no skills or 1st world knowledge

  • iwhite.whitebone - 2012-10-11 15:19

    BETTER VISIT www.boers.ge ..........Goverment of Republic of Georgia invites boer farmers ,offers help,land.......

  • Eterni80 - 2012-10-11 15:20

    ok, so basically you are threatening the farmers with with your what if BS ? this after your stupid irish coffee comment ? take a throat lozenge and then shut the F up.

  • braamc - 2012-10-11 15:20

    Get off your lazy arses and wok

  • Andrea - 2012-10-11 15:21

    Idiot Mantashe, have yourself a sexual departure now, thank you.

  • WvdWesthuizen - 2012-10-11 15:23

    How about the emerging farmers go to university to study Agric, and THEN get land to develop.

      firstseed.mbeva - 2012-10-11 15:27

      Or Woodwork

  • renschejvrensburg - 2012-10-11 15:26

    Wake-up Manthashe neither does the majority of white people, if you wanted to own a farm you had to aquire skills on your own, it was not given to you on a silver plate! I know I am going to be whipped by my fellow countrymen but I'm sick and tired for being threatened. Show white people they have the wrong opinion about you and do something for yourselves!

  • BulletProof. - 2012-10-11 15:27

    The farmers are already resteless with the thousands of the murdered, now what Matashe is trying here is instigate exactly into that direction, this is the call from ANC leaders into the nacionalization of farms,mines and everything else, this country will be ruined after that.

  • brendan.vogt.1 - 2012-10-11 15:28

    Is That a Threat Mantashe ?????? FU Gwede. Why don't you teach the people as government should ??? Cause you can't or don't know how, you useless piece of yesterdays lunch !!!! Look at the farms that were given to the "Previously Disadvantaged" that government thought was such a great idea. They lie in ruin, weed infested wastelands that might be worth the cattle dung that still lies dried in the sun. Another stirling project well done by our Infamous government. Your BEE, AA, ANC, CCMA,NPA and whatever else you morons can think up has NOT WORKED and now you want to threaten the very people that feed you and the nation ????????? Geezzzz, You Are Seriously Stuck On Stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • sarecen.smith - 2012-10-11 15:28

    MANTASHE is like a begger on a street corner, give me give me...

  • luke.dekoker - 2012-10-11 15:29

    "We are not benefiting from the wealth of the country. Wake up." mantashe, you and your corrupt anc clowns must wake up!! You gave away so many farms already, now you want the rest of the hard working farmers to give more freebees to make your failed project work.. If you want war, then let it be.

  • jacque.raymer - 2012-10-11 15:30

    haha, lets see, you give the land to people with no skills, then you want the white Farmers who has been asking government for help for years and have recieved none, instead you sing songs like bring my machine gun and shoet the boer, you do nothing about the farm killings and now you want them to teach your buddies who have no skills, no brains, and got the farms via BEE crap to teach them how to farm ? - good luck with that.

  • sarecen.smith - 2012-10-11 15:30

    the farmers want protection, what are you anc sods doing to help them?

  • Tony Lapson - 2012-10-11 15:35

    What Mantashe is actually saying is, "farm workers, if your boss isn't dedicating time and resources to help black farmers, start getting restless. And by restless I mean marikana violence style."

  • fanie.essgee - 2012-10-11 15:36

    Stop talking nonsense please, we all know the miners were fuelled by members of the ANC, and we all know it was done so the role players could enrich themselves even further, now you threaten the farmers, you know what is a lovely thought, soon we will all die of starvation, no stress, and you will be taken out by your own people as you could not produce what you promised, you will reap the benefits of this mayhem you have caused, as you do not have the skills and or the know how to manage it.... bloody idiots......

  • mart.botha - 2012-10-11 15:38

    Mantashe actually knows he is talking tripe. The only way that anything remotely successful will emerge from this rhetoric is if those existing experienced farmers were to retain a majority of the control and decision making power. Left to their own devices, I'm afraid that at leasr 80% of black farmers will not succeed. I say this because I believe their vision of a farmer is a wealthy landowner whose job it is to count and spend money. A successful farmer's life is one of blood, sweat and tears at the mercy of the elements, and relying on a mountain of intuition and experience. Yes there are black farmers who will blossom and thrive, but these will be the ones who will know sacrifice, will endure hardship, and will be a true African...not the 'plastic African'....... who only wants the rewards.

      mike.down.5492 - 2012-10-11 16:45

      Spot on man and there are many who understand what you are saying. Farming is hard work and requires PASSION. These farmers are feeding the entire nation and it's rediculous these threats.

  • davy.botha - 2012-10-11 15:40

    They as the ANC are shameless, always blaming everybody accept themselves. Farmer get killed and they do little effort to stop it, but want the farmers to skill there killers. How sick can you get

  • fly.onthewall.54 - 2012-10-11 15:42

    For what reason must people always give give give give and get nothing in return? If u don't know how to grow a mielie stay out of it and do what u know... Seriously this sounds like a threat!!! Do this or else and this is the idiot to take over from Zuma... FFS!!!

  • don.frost.581 - 2012-10-11 15:42

    Zimbabwe!

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-10-11 15:43

    This a blatant admission that the ANC government is condoning violence and takeovers by force instead of protecting the food producers of the country. They are to be blamed for the downfall of the once prosperous SA!