Marikana men queued for muti - police

2012-11-08 15:59

Rustenburg - Naked protesting Lonmin mineworkers queued to be sprinkled with muti in rituals purported to make them invincible, a police officer told the Farlam commission in Rustenburg, North West, on Thursday.

"At 15:23 it was reported that the protesters had imported an inyanga [herbalist] or sangoma [traditional healer] to perform rituals that would ensure them victory in a confrontation with opponents," Lieutenant Colonel Victor Visser said.

"The men gathered at the koppie [hill], carrying pangas, spears, and knobkerries, and believed the inyanga would sprinkle them with muti [traditional medicine] to make them brave."

The commission is investigating the circumstances of the deaths of 34 miners shot by the police near Lonmin's mine in Marikana on 16 August

Queues of naked men

Visser gave detailed evidence, supported by video footage and photographs. Aerial photographs of two queues of naked men were shown to the commission.

"These rituals were observed by members of the police who were in a chopper. The bodies were wiped down [and sprinkled] with a substance," he said.

A large contingent of police vehicles headed to the hill as part of a six-point plan drafted earlier. The plan was aimed to disarm the protesters.

"Police got there when the ritual was ending. We managed to capture the last part of the ritual on video. As soon as the police arrived, the people started to get dressed," said Visser.

"You can clearly see from the video a protester [kneeling down] urinating in the direction of the [arriving] police."

In the video, a man in a red shirt stands in the middle of a group of protesters and sprinkles them with a liquid.

‘Lay down your weapons’

Earlier, a video was shown of a confrontation between the police and the protesters on 13 August. In it, a senior policeman tells the group to surrender their weapons before they can proceed to a hill to join their fellow protesters.

"We have a big problem; I ask you lay down your weapons now, otherwise I will not allow you to proceed," he tells the crowd.

A man leading the protesters stands up from among his kneeling colleagues and tells the police they will not surrender their weapons, and that they will use them only for self-defence.

"We want you [police] to accompany us. We have no intention of attacking anyone. Our weapons are only for our self-defence," the man says in Fanagalo, the pidgin based on Zulu, English and Afrikaans which was once commonly used among miners.

Cop critically wounded

The group moves forward as officers look on. Police later fire stun grenades at the marchers. Visser said the protesters then charged the police, overpowered two officers and hacked and shot them to death.

Police officers in a helicopter witnessed the attack. Another policeman was attacked and critically wounded. The protesters stole two-way radios, pistols, a shotgun and a rifle from the dead officers.

Visser told the commission, led by retired judge Ian Farlam, that officers came under attack and had to use live ammunition to save themselves.

The hearing continues.

  • heini.botes - 2012-11-08 16:04

    Hahahaha, muthi, this in the year 2012!! I can just laugh at these morons

      kala.bafazi - 2012-11-08 16:13

      I bet the muthi man made a killing.

      peterpeter.pumkineater.5 - 2012-11-08 16:23

      At R1000/jar...i can just imagine

  • george.slade.161 - 2012-11-08 16:06

    And Man (except for the ANC) evolved from the Apes !

      phillip.cwazibe - 2012-11-08 18:59

      The muti man ows SARS.

  • morne.demeillon - 2012-11-08 16:06

    Amazing!! I have no words, really!!

  • Spiral - 2012-11-08 16:07

    hahahahaha! seriously? So, how invincible did the muti make you...? thought so

  • JohnDough - 2012-11-08 16:09

    They want a 1st world lifestyle yet resort to 3rd world beliefs to make them invincible, dumb savages. Have they never heard you do not bring a herb to a gunfight?

      george.slade.161 - 2012-11-08 16:14

      If "Invincible" , then the only purpose of carrying Spears etc was to murder the police ??? I rest my case .

  • rodney.currie.79 - 2012-11-08 16:13

    Sooo How did that work for you then ??

      morne.demeillon - 2012-11-08 16:22

      Cant you see!?

  • willem.v.hoven - 2012-11-08 16:19

    But get muti to tripple your money. So much less trouble for all.

  • storm.trooper.125 - 2012-11-08 16:21

    previous article:MAN FOUND WITH GENITALS IN HIS WALLET, some pple(blacks) argue that black ppl dont use MUTI!! hmmm alot of my black friends believe in muti..just another article that muti is popular among blacks..I HOPE THMEBA WILL COMMENT, he got serious issues that black culture dont believe in sangomas?muti

      storm.trooper.125 - 2012-11-08 16:24

      they even cut one of the guards tongue off....mmmmm african mentality

  • hendrik.schutte.3152 - 2012-11-08 16:26

    And THAT is the real cause of the tragedy, was known almost right after the shooting. Waste of time and heap of money this "commission of enquiry". Anything else is side effects of the violent, blood thirsty lawless criminal behaviour of the "protesters". (that were made "invinceable" by that special muti. Now the police are being blamed instead of the real causes.

  • storm.trooper.125 - 2012-11-08 16:28

    self defence??????? against who?????????against each other??? like when the ance having meetings and chairs are thrown????

  • mart.botha - 2012-11-08 16:29

    I think they wasted their money........the same effect can be duplicated bt flying off a 10 story building......... Seriously, this tripe is marketed as cultural by those that believe in it. Put it to the test and you will see I am 100% right!

      morne.demeillon - 2012-11-08 16:33

      Off course you are right! This is stone age stuff (believes)

  • - 2012-11-08 16:30

    hahahaha to think they actually believed they were going to become invincible !!!

  • karlu.unos - 2012-11-08 16:32

    their medical aid paid for this

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-11-08 16:35

    Stealth technology in Africa.

  • alison.ling.315 - 2012-11-08 16:36

    Who cares criminals where killed.... Move on, bottom line!!!!

  • koos.vanzyl.98 - 2012-11-08 16:36

    It's a culture - African culture - like corruption, rape, murder, etc. And the line is very long - since 50's with Mau-Mau and Amin in Uganda, etc. etc

  • Piet Pompies - 2012-11-08 16:40

    Sure made them brave, but not clever!

  • marc.ross.965 - 2012-11-08 16:42

    Gee I can't believe all the trolls are silent. What do they have to say about these poor innocent miners.Oh wait they are all lining up naked to get there News24 Muti so their stupid comments will be invincible.

  • Billy - 2012-11-08 16:46

    so the first time police warned them and were lenient, that caused 2 of the officers to be chopped up with pangas. the second time the cops are not lenient and they are blamed. how many cops must be chopped up with pangas before you realise its wrong and has to be stopped?

  • peter.strydom.37 - 2012-11-08 16:46

    Mindless, mindless, mindless, how do you even try to start reasoning with people like this. The absolute sad thing is THEY HAVE A VOTE!

      mkhululi.mnyaka - 2012-11-08 17:57

      you also have a vote.

  • themba.ntuli - 2012-11-08 16:49

    Hey people this true is, this rituals do take place before major strikes I heard this from my dad. In the 80's and 90's when he use to be a general worker at spoornet, before a strike a reputable sangoma was consulted and hired to take care of them given that the situation can change at any time when police where involved, and he said that one of the sangomas requirements for them to do in order for the muti to be effective was that no matter how dire or bad the situation has unfolded when you are running away \DON'T LOOK BACK\ otherwise the muthi concoction won't be effective. usually the sangomas where xhosa's even back then........

      patricia.dewet.92 - 2012-11-08 22:06

      That is what the sangoma is telling the people that they will be killed if they look back. This to cover himself so now he can say they were not brave enough.

  • ntsikajury.sidloyi - 2012-11-08 16:50

    The legal representative of the Police has been arguing the fact tht they dn't dispute the fact tht the miners were killed it's evident and common knowledge,bt there are underlying factors tht led to the miners being killed.They killed their fellow miners,killed security guards and worse killed Police Officers.The mere fact that they consulted a sangoma so as to make them invincible clearly shows that they had no intentions of surrendering their weapons or to engage in a peacefull an ambit they were preaparing for war.

  • chris.buchner.12 - 2012-11-08 16:50

    Champaign showers :P or sorry muti showers hahaha

  • daniel.rossouw1 - 2012-11-08 16:51

    So in 174years from Blood River to Marikana they haven't learnt anything. Wonder if Sangoma will be charged under Consumer Protection Act or did they sign a waver.

  • trevor.myburgh.12 - 2012-11-08 16:51

    I believed in superman once

  • taiwantasker - 2012-11-08 17:03

    Ha Ha! Didn't even read the whole article. Believe it[I do]! 2012? for some of us. Same as the Asians believing tiger balls, rhino horn will make you a man in bed, etc...IDIOTS

  • evans.mohale2 - 2012-11-08 17:04

    Where is tht sangoma? he must be called to testify.

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-11-08 17:05

    Put two bunches of morons, one armed with spears and one with R5's and this is what happens. all of them on both sides come from the same background being brought up with little respect for human life. Conflict resolution "the African way"...

  • patricia.dewet.92 - 2012-11-08 17:20

    But they killed the rabbit what now. And the muti man disappeared with their money. He made almost R300,000.00 Get hold of him he will be an important witness of what happened.

  • Anthony C. Onwudiegwu - 2012-11-08 17:27

    How can there ever be sution when what we do best is distraction and distortion pof fact, oinformation and to chase shadows rather than the object.\r\n\r\nThe issue here is little wage paid to workers and the need for these men who risk their lives providing for their bosses source of wealth.\r\nThe issue is the resort of those managements to sillencing the rights of the vulnerable workers.

      daaivark.varkvet - 2012-11-08 18:17

      What ??

      patricia.dewet.92 - 2012-11-08 22:12

      Never worry about the bosses wealth, you are not paid to do that. If that is you worry start your mine or business and let somebody else worry about it. Rather worry about doing the best you can and be happy.

      clint.rusford.3 - 2012-11-09 04:36

      Or better yet. Go start your business back in ur hometown zimbabwe

  • thivhakoni.mbedzi - 2012-11-08 22:58

    They realy dont knw actually that they cant use muti to someone who doesnt believe on it or believe in God. And the sangomas are selfemployed and they trying to make money for themselfs.

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