Marikana miners arrive at Karee mine

2012-09-05 12:39

Rustenburg - Hundreds of marching miners arrived at Lonmin's Karee mine in the North West before lunch on Wednesday.

Police took up position about 500 metres from an entrance gate, and kept a close watch. Two helicopters circled overhead.

Four workers' representatives approached the police to ask permission to enter the mine and speak to management.

Workers have been on strike for the past three weeks, demanding a monthly salary of R12 500.

On August 16, police fired on a group of protesting workers near the mine, killing 34 and wounding 78.

Another 10 people were killed earlier that week, including two policemen and two security guards.

Police presence

On Wednesday, the miners started marching the more than five kilometres from Lonmin's mine in Marikana to the mine in Karee around 10:00 in an apparent attempt to stop their colleagues from working there.

The marchers carried knobkerries, sticks and iron rods and as they marched, sang: "We died because of [President Jacob] Zuma. [Bantu] Holomisa please come and rescue us."

They also carried placards bearing pictures of their dead colleagues.

Police were unable to prevent the marchers from entering Marikana.

Five Nyala armoured personnel carriers parked at the town's entrance in an attempt to divert the march, but the crowd pushed its way around the vehicles and continued to the Karee mine.

As the miners passed the Karee West informal settlement, next to the mine, residents cheered in support.

Men whistled and women ululated as the group passed by. They also shouted: "Viva R12 500. Viva".

On Tuesday, about 200 mineworkers met at the Karee mine's shaft 30, and tried to get their colleagues to stop working. Another march was then planned for Wednesday morning.

Police in armoured vehicles also kept an eye on the Nkaneng squatter camp at Wonderkop, near the Marikana mine.

Talks between worker representatives, unions, the labour department and management were expected to resume on Wednesday in Rustenburg.

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  • mike.dufham.7 - 2012-09-05 12:45

    Greet them with a fusilade of bullets. That will stop their cr@p

      pieter0827006294 - 2012-09-05 12:52

      The police's hands are tied by now, they know that very well!

      Isabel - 2012-09-05 13:07

      Alicia, there's only one brain cell. They pass it round, but I think someone's dropped it.

      anthonycharles.williams - 2012-09-05 13:12

      Isabel hahaha spot on.

      themba.mkhize.5494 - 2012-09-05 13:13

      Julius is coming, he will liberate them

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:20

      Juju is coming for the K(aree)FC

      mike.dufham.7 - 2012-09-05 13:29

      @godfrex.khumalo. You had better leave the teacher's laptop alone. If you carry on like this you WILL NEVER pass Grade 7

      lebojaneraymond.hlakoane - 2012-09-05 13:40

      You are selfish and arogant I wish it turn to you family member or your love one!what goes around comes around.

      junebugg.kinte - 2012-09-05 13:40

      Man I have nothing but respect for these Miners, ANC and All Opposition parties in SA are useless...They only remember poor people when it is voting time...You will see them driving to Marikana just before elections.. Poor people are on their own no matter who they vote, in Gauteng,Western Cape,KZN or Eastern Cape...Same sht different province

      Stephen - 2012-09-05 14:44

      Themba, he will jump on the bandwagon, make a noise and then run away, again, when the violence starts. He doesn't care about the miners at all.

      Isabel - 2012-09-05 15:11

      Themba, my mentality is neither black nor white. It's simply logical. These people, mainly uneducated, instead of talking in the first place, have embarked on an orgy of violence. They didn't ACCIDENTALLY hack to death policeman and security guards. They say the mines are underpaying them, but if the mines weren't there, who would be paying them at all? It's called biting the hand that feeds you. The mines' share price has dropped and if it continues the mines may find it unprofitable to continue, and if that happens who will be to blame? The bigger picture is that nobody in their right mind will want to invest here, and jobs will be lost wholesale. All the chanting, protesting, rioting and looting in the world won't make a blind bit of difference then.

  • wilhelm.grobbelaar - 2012-09-05 12:45

    That doesn't look like knobkerries but rather spears.

  • wynlib - 2012-09-05 12:46

    So they now want to speak to management? I thought that negotiations reached a deadlock (because the mine is not willing to settle for the requested pay increases). Please mine bosses, just let labour legislation take it's course. You are also protected by the labour legislation. Tell the miners that you don't bring weapons to a negotiation. Let them realsie that the union bosses are using them as pawns for their own power struggles.

      ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-09-05 14:16

      Wynlib it is well past talking time. Lonmin value has been destroyed. Today share price hit 9 year low. International banks will call in loan facility on Friday. The workers may not have noticed the plummet in the price of what they mine, but they have seen their LAST paycheck.

      stampalex - 2012-09-05 14:51

      So here's the plan as I see it... Malema is stirring up the miners to make the mines ungovernable (his words) (Note this is an act of economic treason but notice the deafening silence from the ANC). The plan is to close mines down one by one and then nationalise. This has been supported by promises that the miners would get huge salaries once the mines are nationalised. Its been the plan all along. Mark these words...

      gift.mushi.9 - 2012-09-05 15:08

      There is no more labour legislations in mines.

  • shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-05 12:49

    wait for it!!! I see more shootings & more killings coming up - Lets see is we can guess who will get blamed? Just bomb the lot of them I want I want I want - thats all they KNOW how to say Who wil be re-writting our National Anthem to have the words "I WANT OR I KILL" in them??

      shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-05 13:35

      @ Zim, I dont do drugs or drink, but by the look sof your picture, I would say you do. So why dont you stay of the tik & mampoer.

      barker.ruing - 2012-09-05 14:04

      @zimbobwe - The take home cash in pocket is R4000-00, not their total salary. Plus they get free transport to and from work. Add to this, assisted housing subsidies. All Lonmin employees get a housing subsidy based on a percentage of their gross salary, irrespective if you live in a shack, a house or a mansion. They do not want a 300% increase. It is much more than that if you want R12500 in your pocket after deductions.

  • desertratbkf - 2012-09-05 12:51

    Absolute savagery! It's barbaric! Nowhere else in the civilised world do you see protesters with such horrific weapons!

      chris.steytler.1 - 2012-09-05 13:30

      Poverty is the worst form of violence. Nowhere in the civilized world would a company get away with paying its workers such a pittance. The average coal miner's pay in the UK is around £20K = R245000 pa before tax. These SA miners earn on average R60K pa or £4800 pa. There is your savagery right there.

      beertjie.peertjie - 2012-09-05 13:43

      @Chris: I agree.

      barker.ruing - 2012-09-05 14:24

      @Chris = You need to check the cost of living in the UK and compare it to SA. 568ml beer cost about R45-50 in the UK compared to R28-00 for 700ml in SA(Pub prices). Housing in a rural coal mining town in the UK. 1 bedroom flat for rent at R5 850 per month, or a 3 bedroom house at R65 000 per month. My son rents a 3 bedroom flat in Centurion near Supersport Park for R4 800 per month.

      chris.steytler.1 - 2012-09-05 15:12

      Yes, that makes sense, compare the cost of rent between a small island with roughly the same population size as SA. However, lets compare food basics: cost of a loaf of bread: Tescos basic white loaf = £0.09/100g versus Pick&Pay Standard White Bread = £0.08/100g. That's what matters.

  • mokonepertunia.sedio - 2012-09-05 12:53

    this will not end now. what will happen to the economy of this country and the future of the mines???????????? i am very worried!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      ronnymakgaola.selota - 2012-09-05 12:56

      Who's economy are talking about, we blacks dont have economy.

      leaproach.thekeeper - 2012-09-05 13:00

      @selota.....the economy that puts food in your stomach numbnut!

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:22

      @Ronny ... and by chasing Investors away .. the country can ever move forward HOW????

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:35

      hmmm - no reply from Ronny. Clueless I presume.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-09-05 14:03

      Ronny please read. No economy. No subscribers. No black share holders. No dividends/money. You want to tell me you are right and mokonepertunia.sedio and 120 000 black shareholders are wrong? ------------------------------------ Nolo Letele The black economic empowerment (BEE) companies established by DStv owner MultiChoice are being paid ordinary and special dividends to the tune of R1bn in the current financial year, the pay-TV broadcaster said on Wednesday. The empowerment companies, Phuthuma Nathi 1 and 2, will receive R400m in an ordinary dividend declared by MultiChoice for its 2012 financial year — a 33% increase over last year’s dividend. Phuthuma Nathi, in turn, is declaring a dividend of 118,5c/share, also an increase of 33%. MultiChoice established Phuthuma Nathi, which owns 20% of the company, in 2006. Its shares began trading publicly for the first time in December 2011. At the time, it had 120 000 shareholders, the vast majority of them black individuals. When Phuthuma Nathi was first created, investors could buy in at R10/share upfront, with a further purchase price of R40/share created in the form of debt on the Phuthuma Nathi balance sheet. However, MultiChoice says Phuthuma Nathi will now receive a special dividend of R600m, which will be used to reduce this debt. “This special dividend will reduce the original debt of R40/share to R17/share,” says MultiChoice SA chairman Nolo Letele. “This will further increase the value of Phuthuma Nathi 1 and 2.” —

      Stephen - 2012-09-05 14:07

      @ronnymalgaola.selota: Why are you making this a race issue? 'we blacks'? Seems you have a poor opinion of yourself.

  • - 2012-09-05 12:54

    The thing that I do not understand is why they continue with this action, as they surely have seen the fruits of the previous attempt gained only dismay and sorrow. Or is it maybe because Malema keep on adding fuel to these already explosive situations? Can this people then not see that they are driven downhill and there is better ways to handle wage disputes? And furthermore, while they are on strike, they cause so much financial problems that all of them stands a chance of being unemployed, so in the end they will cause more harm to themselves.

  • louis.hager.12 - 2012-09-05 12:55

    Shoot them all. More job oppenings, less unemployment, smaller fuelprice increase, bigger rift in the ANC. How is this not a win-win situation?

  • tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-09-05 12:59

    Let the revolutionary against capitalist and greedy ANC execs start - we are on course in fight to nationalise the mines.Stand in solidarity all you mine workers and united you shall conquer

      mike.dufham.7 - 2012-09-05 13:11

      tshepo. Wht drugs are you taking? Seems like it produces drivel. If you don't understand what that means, ask the baas, but switch his PC off first otherwise you will be in trouble for using it in his absence

      indianajohn - 2012-09-05 13:11

      You mean: united you shall starve.

      loo.steyn - 2012-09-05 13:20

      Ja . .lets see when the mine goes bank and the jobs are gone.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:23

      Yeah - Nationalised Mines will be able to pay R12500 * SNORT SNORT CHUCKLE SNIGGER*

      driekus.dekock - 2012-09-05 13:33

      The only thing that will be conquered is the demise of the mine. The striking workers do not realise if they continue the Lonmin mines will close and more people will be without work. What are they going to protest about then?

      Stephen - 2012-09-05 14:11

      Serious question Tshepo. Will I get my share of the income from the mines? I did a quick calculation which I want to walk you through. Say a mine makes R50m profit a year. There are 50m people in South Africa. Will we each get R1? Oops, almost forgot to deduct income tax and dividends tax. That's 38.8%, so now we've got R30.6m, so everyone will get R0.61 each.

      Stephen - 2012-09-05 14:12

      And I believe you meant to say revolution, not revolutionary. Small mistake, but let us be accurate Comrade in our fight for equality.

  • TheMcAttack - 2012-09-05 12:59

    Long Live, R12 500, Long Live?? That doesnt make sense?

      louis.hager.12 - 2012-09-05 13:01

      It does, they just want R12500, doesn't matter how useless their R12500 wil be when foreign investors bugger off. Animals.

      susanna.smit.7 - 2012-09-05 13:40

      The French month thing got through to them.

  • irvin.mkhari - 2012-09-05 13:01

    some people may not understand why the miners striking usually people who are satisfied with everything they have,some people are struggling to make a living.let us understand and accept one another's concern.

  • indianajohn - 2012-09-05 13:02

    But WHY do you need spears? WHY?

  • mokgele.phati.5 - 2012-09-05 13:02

    Eish it's too much problem between Miners& Police now...lets just pray so that they can reach the conclution/solution.....

  • Hemlock - 2012-09-05 13:02

    They are now very desperate to meet their ancestors.....earlier than anticipated!

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-09-05 13:04

    The taxi industry will make money out of this at the end of the month. All these ex-workers will need one way transport back to their villages and poverty.

  • Isabel - 2012-09-05 13:04

    They really are determined to join the ranks of the unemployed, aren't they? They bludgeoned the NPA into submission and got off with murder, and starving themselves and their families to death is just utterly incomprehensible. Still, it makes good copy all around the world and trashes the reputation of South Africa. One glimmer of light is that it's hammering another nail into the ANC's coffin. I would love to know who's really gaining from this, apart from Juliarse Malema. It's not the miners, it's not the mines, and it certainly isn't this country. Am I missing something here?

  • lyn.duplessis - 2012-09-05 13:08

    So, they want to talk yet carry weapons? Strange hey!

  • jacek.tomkow - 2012-09-05 13:09

    My friends are well educated and hard working people. they have 2 degree's a piece......and they earn HALF of what these workers are asking for. They will never stop striking, and it will always be too little.

      psmarais - 2012-09-05 15:15

      Your friends are also interns.... but I agree with you... A lot of "Ambag" specialists' pay doesn't even come close to that. But ja... Let them continue... We and the rest of the working population can and will keep the country running.... I just don't get their logic.... Do they know how long they will have to work to work in the money they lost? Even if they get the increase? They are only causing damage to themselves.... they are currently saving the mining companies a lot of money by not working...

  • frank.kistler.31 - 2012-09-05 13:10

    Lonmin will see shafts closing down,this is so bad for the Rustenburg community :(

      ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-09-05 13:28

      Frank Lonmin Management could not pay even if they wanted to. The share price hit a NINE YEAR low today. The miners have wiped billions off the value of the company. I believe the international banks will be calling in a $700 million draft facility. Lonmin have no other option but to close down the marginal mines. Hence the miners are protesting to a ghost, and damage is done.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:39

      And it's bad for the workers, and it's bad for the Govt's taxes, and it's bad for Investors, and it's bad for the Country's image, and it's bad for Rustenburg businesses, and it's bad for every single SA citizen. And Juju becomes a bigger hero to many miners.

  • Doep100 - 2012-09-05 13:12

    WTF are knobkerries? Some hot Indian dish or what?

      Michael - 2012-09-05 13:27

      Knobkirrie is a self made wooden stick crafted with a big round ended form, mainly used as a weapon to hit a person, if anyone carry that they are trying to send a message that 'no one must mess them around'

      susanna.smit.7 - 2012-09-05 13:28

      Very vindaloo, better than tasteless bunny bashing...

      Doep100 - 2012-09-05 13:31

      Nee chomma, ek weet goed wat 'n "knopkierie" is. Wat is 'n "Knobkerrie"?

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:39

      Bunny Chow!

      Michael - 2012-09-05 13:40

      Oh i see....

      Doep100 - 2012-09-05 13:42

      I'm just being pedantic to relieve my irritation...

      shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-05 14:13

      LOL - well spotted

      barker.ruing - 2012-09-05 14:30

      Curry coated penis

  • patient.mothiba - 2012-09-05 13:12

    Marikana has become a hunting ground for political parties. Everyone is taking advantage of the situation.

  • marc.ross.965 - 2012-09-05 13:14

    My traditional weapon of choice is the A Bomb. Anyone got a spare?

      psmarais - 2012-09-05 14:43

      Got a couple hidden in a silo in the "Olifants Berge". Almost done with the Android and iPhone apps... Remote Nuke FTW!!! :P

  • Michael - 2012-09-05 13:18

    Police must not hesitate to use maximum force in the event that there is a criminal element emerging from miners! That is the only language ill-disciplined miners understand.

  • mthokozisi.madlala.7 - 2012-09-05 13:18

    hawu....I thoght Juju was their!!!

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:25

      they are going to see their Moses soon enough

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-09-05 14:06

      I thought so Maybe Juju claimed to quickly.

  • susanna.smit.7 - 2012-09-05 13:23

    Run rabbits run!!

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:25

      Hare away

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:26

      KnobKerrie = Bunny Chow

  • chris.steytler.1 - 2012-09-05 13:32

    Good on them, screw the police and screw their corporate puppet masters.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:40

      Suspects a screw loose

  • nickey.vanrensburg - 2012-09-05 13:44

    ra ta ta ta ta ta ta.....HAUW !!! MAWHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!

  • aphiwe.mayola - 2012-09-05 13:51

    Me thinks the Muti-man's muti is working, clearly the po-po found em invincible (or is it invisible) n cudnt do jack 2 em. Lmao!

  • DuToitCoetzee - 2012-09-05 14:08

    All I can ask is that all parties handle these following days's happenings with care. Behave. Practice control. I may dream. Dreams are for free.

      shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-05 14:14

      Nice dream - would be nice if some dreams could come true?

  • godfrex.khumalo - 2012-09-05 14:13

    @mike.dufham. i am not surprised, u are still continuing with your white mentality

  • psmarais - 2012-09-05 14:13

    R12500!!!??? Is that per month? Screw my job. Where do I sign up to be a miner?

      chris.steytler.1 - 2012-09-05 14:25

      Jou sagte handjies sal dit mos nooit maak nie jong?

  • tobiediespies.erasmus - 2012-09-05 14:21

    There is no "Karee mine's shaft 30", or not that I've seen. I was at 3# yesterday, and there were no-one. They were however at some of the other shafts. The media better start getting their facts right.

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2012-09-05 16:17

    It is time for a leader to stand up and send the people back to work, or face being fired. If the pay is so bad, try another job. Some people will struggle the rest of theire lifes.

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