Matric pass probe long overdue - DA

2012-11-05 14:19

Cape Town - An investigation into the standard of the matric pass benchmark was welcomed by the Democratic Alliance on Monday.

The party was responding to an announcement by Basic Education Minister Angie Motshekga that an inter-ministerial committee would be established to look at, among others, a comparative study with other countries on the standards they used to promote pupils.

"The department must be commended for its willingness to engage with a range of stakeholders on the Senior Certificate exams... and making recommendations on how the matters impacting on the standard of the National Senior Certificate can be addressed," DA MP Annette Lovemore said.

The fact that the study was being undertaken brought into focus the efficiency of exams standards authority Umalusi.

"The DA calls for the credibility and competence of Umalusi to form part of the committee’s review," said Lovemore.

The probe followed a report released last week by the World Economic Forum (WEF) which rated South Africa last out of 62 countries on the quality of maths and science education.

South Africa was placed at 140 in a global competitiveness report released by the WEF in August.

Lovemore linked the standard of education with the level of support provided to the country's pupils.

"Increasing the standards of exams without providing learners with the support and opportunities to meet the standards of excellence is simply setting them up for failure," Lovemore said.

  • kala.bafazi - 2012-11-05 14:35

    Just go look at how things were done around 1994. Motshekga need to be probed, in the face, with a baseball bat. Her negligence and attidtude towards education has resulted in thousands of South Africans leaving school woefully under educated and thus unemployable.

      LutherKingsley - 2012-11-05 14:48

      Remember Zuma openly condemned education, he said we must go back to the old African ways of doing things. Now with a president who's got this backward mentality how can you ever expect government to set good education standards and inspire the youth to learn and grow their minds???

      alan.jerrold - 2012-11-05 14:49

      It seems utterly astonishing to me that people like Motshekga still keep their job. And equally surprising that people still keep voting for the ANC, whose uselessness is only exceeded by their appetite for corruption. There are FAR better people to lead us (of all races) available to take SA to a better future. Why, oh why, do people keep voting for a party that has clearly, undeniably proven that it hasn't a clue how to govern properly??

      art5SA - 2012-11-05 15:14

      ROFLMAO @ Kala.bafazi!!!! CHIRP OF THE DAY!!!!

      jaco.bruwer.73 - 2012-11-05 15:20

      I agree. South Africa was once part of the leading capital in mathematics and science (engineering). We designed some of the top military weapons and defence systems. Every country wanted a engineer from south Africa due to the high standers which they set. But they were educated in a old system 1975-1997 which had a higher standard then now. Now its hard to find Metric purples with excellent maths and science marks. U almost only find them at private or model c schools. Almost never in government schools.

      parys.fotograaf - 2012-11-05 17:55

      In RSA we use cricketbats or kopkieries.

      alf.pop - 2012-11-05 20:43

      kala.bafazi: Are you aware that that baseball bat will be useless afterwards?

      Kala - 2012-11-05 20:53

      You're right Alf but I will certainly feel less tense afterwards

  • thabani.dube.988 - 2012-11-05 14:37

    Dont leave out the undemocratic SADTU with its impediments to quality education delivery.

  • loo.steyn - 2012-11-05 14:38

    Yeah .. see minister . .It works like this.. IT does not HELP to lower the standard of our school education system in order to "SHOW" bogus "good" results and for teachers to subsequently be patted on the back for what was, for all intensive purposes a watered down test of knowledge. And another thing .. PASS rate of 30% ????? Do you realize that passing a student which basically DONT know 70% of what he/she should know is ridiculous !!!!!!

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-11-05 14:38

    The standard would be below average at best - if the bench had legs!

  • juju.malema.792 - 2012-11-05 14:39

    How does a minister that has overseen the complete and utter destruction of this country's education system (SA has officialy the worst education system on Earth!) still have a job? How has she not been fired for gross incompetance and put in jail for gross negligence. How is it humanely possible to beat every country in Africa into last place?!??!

      LutherKingsley - 2012-11-05 14:50

      Simple, because the ANC government does not want the young black people to become educated, so this is all in their favour at the cost of the young black people who needs to find REAL jobs.

      Klaus - 2012-11-05 14:57

      she does it for him, to him?

      george.slade.161 - 2012-11-05 15:41

      She is a Deployed Cadre : She does not have to achieve anything other than attend feeding at the ANC Trough.

      TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-11-05 16:12

      because her employers are even more dumb than she is.

      parys.fotograaf - 2012-11-05 17:57

      She must be "respected" by the spear.

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-11-05 14:45

    The problem is that if you are appalled by this the more you shout about it the more likely it is that you will be labelled as racist and/or Eurocentric. Despite that I believe that it boils down to this: Either the country sets its education standard against external reference points and competes with the rest of the world OR it uses internal reference points (that buy votes) and consequently compensates for its poor competitiveness by applying BEE/AA or similar policies. Achieving 140 from 142 in the global survey pinpoints the current policy....but does anyone really believe that the anc has the moral strength of character to sort this out....I think not!

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-05 14:47

    How many lost souls learned "uguh uguh buuguh" all these past two decades? 1 + 1 = 11 child grants? collect nkandla mfeka contract on the way! and they er'mmmm are leaders today?

  • John.Yossarian22 - 2012-11-05 14:47

    It does not need an "inter ministerial committee" to fire Motshekga. She is doing harm that might take generations to undo. The most important ministry has the least competent in charge. Very sad for our children.

  • siphobongohead - 2012-11-05 14:47

    Everything helps.

  • herman.booysen2 - 2012-11-05 14:49

    Well fine, but please do not do what you normally do, 2 wrong things does not make a right. Address the support networks , please do not drop the standard !

  • chiepner - 2012-11-05 14:51

    "inter-ministerial committee" - DO NOT hold your breath people. This will only be time consuming where the final report will be heavily "doctored" or "scewed" or even if it does come out perfect it will be shelved and nothing will be done as said report recommended. Self enrichment is much more important than the basic education of South Africans.

  • kenpeg.dawson - 2012-11-05 14:52

    Read the lines then read between the lines. they are going to look elsewere how it is done. Cuba, Congo, Nigeria, Zimbabwe etc. Then lower the pass rate to make as many unlearnered persons to try enter the workforce.

  • Albert Hanekom - 2012-11-05 14:58

    So in 10 years time 50% unemployment and 80% vacant job post if the standard is reverted to what it was.

  • joyce.beeton - 2012-11-05 15:01

    It's about time - fancy accepting 30% in 4 subjects to be able to pass matric - that's 30%. If you are only able to get 30% in matric how in the world will you ever be able to cope at University? Why would you even expect to be accepted into University - ridiculous! But as Zuma says, we must do things the "African" Way. Well that's not good enough! Not all Africans have his money and the one thing everybody in this country needs is a good education. Nobody should be ALLOWED TO VOTE unless they are educated!!! Then you'll see a difference in who runs the country - it will be competent people.

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-05 15:14

    Oh doesn't this sound marvelous? It sounds so good and righteous. Will anything come of it? NO!!!! Which other countries will be consulted? The ANC have learnt one thing - the 'gift of the gab'. After that, nothing, because they don't know how to implement anything.

  • tiaan.truter - 2012-11-05 15:40

    Lol matric is so easy now,i can most probably go back and not even open a book an just listen in class and I'll pass...I promise you If they make the "pass" mark higher you WILL see people failing more and more

  • firstseed.mbeva - 2012-11-05 15:41

    Woodwork must also reviewed.At least some of the learners can obtain better symbols.

  • luke.dekoker - 2012-11-05 15:50

    We all should be happy that there will be an investigation into the standard of the matric pass benchmark, but hell NO, NOT by an Inter- Mministerial Committee to go (on a spending jol) to look at other countries. Get some of the previous qualified teachers (who were replaced with AA & cadres) together and they will tell you what is wrong. I'm for one can tell you the anc screwed the education up and it is their intension to drop the standards even lower.

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-11-05 16:34

    Here is a point to contemplate for those objecting to the matric standards being lowered etc. The fact is that the vast majority of SA kids are incapable of attaining a high standard of education (by world standards); their cultural and social background makes it either a massive challenge (well done to those few that overcome) or it is simply impossible. Ergo, a lower standard (and different) education is going to be all that is possible. BUT the big problem is that what was once a world recognise educational benchmark, SA MATRIC, has been sacrificed for political expediency and votes....the incompetence that helped this along was probably to be expected, the political deviousness of denying education is just plain disgusting. The solution maybe is to reinstate MATRIC at a suitably world competitive level and to stop trying to convince artisan and labour that they are suitable for tertiary academic education.

  • Tim Elliott - 2012-11-05 17:09

    The mind boggling list of 'commissions' never ends.If denial fails to convince the sheep then go for a commission which can take forever to deliver anything and the ROT...just deepens!!

  • david.coetzee.77 - 2012-11-05 17:33

    In 1994 I studied and received my diploma in 1995 That means 1 year study and 1 year work as aprentice. I also had to achieve min of 60% for my subjects and 80% in my trade exam The same Diploma is now 6 months total and a Degree with a 40% as pass.

      parys.fotograaf - 2012-11-05 18:00

      To put it into perspective. In 1984 I started my apprenticeship. It took 3 years and attending college. Thus all-ready by 1995 yours was basically watered down and worthless in the normal international market.

  • parys.fotograaf - 2012-11-05 17:54

    This probe should be done completely independently from any political party or government. Only educational specialists and business specialists should be involved. I am sure our universities can supply all the people we need for this and then government should be forced by legislation to implement the plans made .

  • strikeback.strikeback - 2012-11-05 19:59

    The output we achieve in the working environment is linked to skills. The better our students are prepared the higher the output and quality of product. Strikeback supports any probe into education standards.

  • kurt.vermaak - 2012-11-05 22:40

    I have een visiting friends in the US. Our education that we have in SA is not even basic. Grade R in the US is higher than almost anything that we have in SA. My mates grade 6 aughter has work coming out of her ears, sirs for hours doing homework and the level of education is light years ahead of SA. All this just to make it easier for a certain segment of our population to pass and they still cant even do that...ahahahahaha what a dumb bunch we have

  • anthro45 - 2012-11-06 07:01

    How do you help a child by letting him pass with 30%. What is worse, letting him do it over until he passes or letting him through with 30% and know that he is still uneducated?

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