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Matric standards to be probed

2012-11-03 10:07

Johannesburg - Basic Education Minister Angie Motshekga is planning on probing the standard of the current matric pass benchmark, the Saturday Star reported.

Her decision followed warnings by leading academics that the standard of the National Senior Certificate was "deceptive, consigning thousands to a life that promised neither further education nor employment".

The investigation to be conducted by a ministerial committee was published in the government gazette this week and entailed conducting comparative studies of the promotion requirement in other countries.

Motshekga also wanted the committee to decide whether life orientation should not be a non-examinable subject.

Motshekga's spokesperson Hope Mokgatlhe confirmed the probe saying the minister wanted it to start in 2013.

Matric admission to bachelor studies required a pass in four subjects at 50% and the remaining subjects at 30% provided the home language was passed at 40% and the language of learning and teaching at 30%.

The World Economic Forum this week ranked South Africa last in a survey of 62 countries' quality of maths and science education, the paper reported.

Comments
  • peter.ballie.5 - 2012-11-03 10:14

    30%!!! do me a favour.

      ryan.a.smith.3958 - 2012-11-03 10:38

      that 30% is like 3% compared to the standard of education 15 years ago. if you got 30% today you'd get about 3% back then

      linda.dippenaar.3 - 2012-11-03 10:56

      It's really crazy!! No wonder we rank last in the world. How can anyone still fail to pass Grade 12 if this is how low we set our standards? Very sad.

      amanda.vandenberg.758 - 2012-11-03 11:54

      Really? Investigate? Pleeeeeaze, she could not even investigate the book fiasco, nothing was her fault , she was innocent, fire this incompetent woman before more money is wasted on another commission that costs millions and takes years to complete. Who is she trying to fool, the whole education system has deteriorated to the point where it is non-existant. It is literally a case of the blind leading the blind in her case. It will take decades to wipe out the damage that has been done in our educational system and the scholars which have been forsaken by the ANC

      foodfor.thought.73 - 2012-11-03 15:32

      IT IS A SAD DAY FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS IN SOUTH AFRICA... I have a question? When will the kids at school start to standup against the discrimination they are receiving by the education department. The department is indirectly telling them that they are not good enough and without them intervening they will not make it in life...

  • strikeback.strikeback - 2012-11-03 10:16

    Education is the base of your entire career. Focus on building a stable base. Do not create opportunities for foreign workers to take up the better positions, simply because they are better qualified and disciplined. www.strikeback.co.za

  • henk63 - 2012-11-03 10:23

    Probe all you want, in the end you will find the same answer that was held under your nose all these years. You just chose to ignore it. The answer(s)? You started to call pupils "lennahs". You appointed AA teachers, principals etc. You allowd morons to stay in school way into adulthood. You allowed above "lennahs" to intimidate and control whole schools. You praise mediocre "lennahs" and instill undeserved pride. You abolished punishment. You allowed teachers to strike. Your department rather dump textbooks than deliver it. Your department is corrupt to the bone. Should I carry on?

      strikeback.strikeback - 2012-11-03 13:18

      Henk. Can we match your salary? www.strikeback.co.za

  • frans.vanderpoll - 2012-11-03 10:30

    Ever since 1994 education in this country is on a downward spiral and the world is laughing behind their hands. Admittance requirements to Univ and Colleges has been lowered to accommodate the \previously disadvantaged\. Textbooks in Limpopo are still outstanding and who's to blame for that? Angie - wake-up out of your coma, do us all a favour and step down. Ok now for the part where I'm getting booed: bring back the pre-1994 education system but without the apartheid.

  • ryan.macdougall - 2012-11-03 10:36

    If your looking at upping the standards that's fine with me but if you chose to lower them any further, all you will be doing is forcing tertiary institutions to require any possible learner to write a standardized entrance exam to be allowed access.

  • terrylee.heuer - 2012-11-03 10:37

    Oh my word Angie where have you been?? We've known this for so long now suddenly you want to probe it well better late than never!!! 30% is hardly something to feel proud about!! Its no wonder the students struggle when they get to higher education!!!

  • quantron - 2012-11-03 10:46

    Haha! This reminds me of when KZN MEC Nomsa Dube requested the Department of Science and Technology to "investigate the cause of lightning" after 7 people were stuck and killed. The answers are common knowledge and have been known for years...yet...

      terrylee.heuer - 2012-11-03 10:51

      Hahahaah this remark will be used by us for many years to come when lightning strikes someone!!! No offence the thought not funny but the remark yes!!

      blip.noodlum - 2012-11-03 19:23

      hehehe....

  • phumlani.loliwe - 2012-11-03 10:47

    So it took Angie \I can't deliver textbooks\ Motshekga 3 years to think about probing these standards...that alone should get her ugly face fired!

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-11-03 11:35

      I gave you a thumbs up, but please stay away from one's looks.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-11-03 11:38

      Ok, If she was looking like Unathi(idols) it would have helped, but we do not choose our looks.

  • dehlia.fredericks - 2012-11-03 10:51

    people u 4got, the \african\ way, nt very clever! imagine, lennahs, lmk!

  • MallyGold - 2012-11-03 10:58

    Drop the standard so even the donkeys can pass.

  • tselemela1 - 2012-11-03 11:00

    In my matric year we started the with 13 maths higher grade nd only 6 ended up writting the exam. I wonder how many of our current crop of matriculants be able to write maths HG.

      george.slade.161 - 2012-11-03 11:59

      Anc seem to understand "Struggle " Maths pretty well.

  • tselemela1 - 2012-11-03 11:03

    the politicians know that their kids dont have the genes to write exams of high standards hence they drop them

      parys.fotograaf - 2012-11-03 12:25

      You almost hits the nail on the head....but your genes prevented you from writing the whole and real truth. The Bell Curve is surely a book that you must read.

  • barry.mcbride - 2012-11-03 11:03

    "Matric admission to bachelor studies required a pass in four subjects at 50%...". LOL, one may only assume that such criteria are for the higher grade level, although NO traditional university, as apposed to a university of technology, will accept pupils with D's as their highest marks for any course that I know of!

  • debduplessis - 2012-11-03 11:09

    Matric in this country is shocking the youth have no future with the little they expected to get! they cant even go overseas to compete let alone compete in this country ... the Education Dept has done the youth no favours by just trying say say what the matric pass rate is to boost their own ego & say they have educated the majority - educate them in what???!

  • sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-11-03 11:14

    Is the education system beyond salvation? As far as I can see the children come out of school the same way they go in - illiterate. Why did they lower the standards in the first place? Anyone knows that that path is completely counterproductive. They take 12 years from the children's lives and give them nothing in return. Reaping the benefits of hard work is a valuable lesson to learn, especially early in life. The ANC have failed our children. Too late to probe - they must go!

  • godesha - 2012-11-03 11:14

    Oh whatever Angie. Just like the rest of the ANC government, you make promises you cant keep. Did the children get their books yet? Education is a mess and I dont think you know how to fix it.

  • J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-11-03 11:22

    I wonder if readers have able to see the recent open letter to Zuma from Stephen Price, Principal of Bergvliet High School, W Cape. Google Stephen Price Bergvliet.

      terrylee.heuer - 2012-11-03 11:43

      Yes I did I came across it by pure accident on Shouts page very powerful read but I doubt Zuma will even respond but will watch the space!!! I copied it and shared it too!!

  • barend.steyn.9 - 2012-11-03 11:23

    I have no doubt that the pass mark will be dropped by another 10 percent to give the ANC more votes in the elections. I think the pass mark current stands at 30 percent. What a mess.

  • barend.steyn.9 - 2012-11-03 11:30

    I believe that Debonaires Pizza are goibg to run a special course for the ANC on how to make deliveries to customers. Hopefully schools will now get the reference books for next year.

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-11-03 11:35

    As a Yr 12 teacher and a Sen.Cert sub-examiner for almost 3 decades, I now feel as though I'm working in a production line. I help to churn out matriculants. Classroom practice and assessment criteria have hardly changed. Its the passing requisites that have changed. Not just changed, it is so unchallenging that one has to try extremely hard to fail! The IS NO benchmark! With selective median adjustments for quintiled schoolls, matric standards just cannot be quantified. That's the reason you have potential medicos on the street and potential looters in publc office. Do your homework!

  • dalai.rama.9 - 2012-11-03 11:36

    IF YOU PASS 30%, YOU HAVE FAILED 70% OF THE SUBJECT! NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF!

  • Sthembiso Khanyile - 2012-11-03 12:02

    As the country we're wasting millions on investigations yet pay little attention on the outcomes. Firstly Angie should be telling us about the findings of Limpompo saga where some millions were used during the investigations. Pertinent to pass %, evidence is already there ask Prof Jonathan Jansen he will tell, one of greatest researcher in our life time.

  • casskot - 2012-11-03 12:03

    When we say Education is in a Crisis this is exactly what we mean !!!!!!!!

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-11-03 12:04

    Clearly then Angie made all of those changes in her tenure without any investigations at all. She just woke up one morning and decided to drop the pass rate to 30%. Then she is bombarded with all of these international studies that make a mockery of our education system, so she decides to run her own probe. I would like to run my own probe - stick a little camera into her ears and see if there is anything in that big fat cavity between them. Stupid twat!

  • JamesMWood - 2012-11-03 12:08

    Yeesh when I was at school you needed four subjects minimum on higher grade pass and you could have 2 on standard grade passing 40 %, now you only need 30 %, that's lower grade! All languages had to be higher grade and passed !

  • mart.botha - 2012-11-03 12:14

    Why do we keep bulldusting youngsters into believing that they are competent, when clearly they are not. You are giving them Matric Certificates and falsley raising their expectations ....the same mindset that a miner might have in demanding a R12500-00 salary when in reality the markets dictate that his contribution is only equal to half of that. We bulldust children into believing that they are all potential and deserving doctors and lawyers etc when in reality this is absurd.

  • parys.fotograaf - 2012-11-03 12:23

    Angie should just get the hell out and so should the whole ANC and their commie pals. Let educational specialists from universities do studies and decide what we really need in schools. Politicians have no clue, nor have they ever had.

  • michael.i.wright - 2012-11-03 13:45

    Education the African way.

  • blip.noodlum - 2012-11-03 19:22

    Everyone knows it's been dumbed down so far that even dumb bozos can "pass".

  • Richard Jiyana - 2012-11-03 20:31

    There is a huge gap between matric and varsity in SA, all thanks to ANC and its clownish ministers for affording us such an 'insane' education system.

  • barry.pointeer - 2012-11-04 06:27

    hey Doc whats wrong with me?? Mmmmm.It could be cancer or on the other hand it could be the flu...??? im not sure ???

  • clare.laycock.5 - 2012-11-05 15:40

    This is why we pay for private schools, we struggle our asses off to send kids to a school were you have to pass... and the standards are such that get you into Uni and make you THINK..... for goodness sakes, Angie get off your butt and do some work. Think of the kids and not yourselves....

  • clare.laycock.5 - 2012-11-05 15:41

    In fact, the only way to get a better standard, apart from making our teachers teach and not take long tea breaks in the staff rooms, is teach in the kids HOME language so they can understand for goodness sakes.....

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