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Mbeki, Duarte call for Selebi probe to 'uncover the truth'

2015-02-01 08:18

Johannesburg - ANC deputy secretary-general Jessie Duarte and former president Thabo Mbeki have urged the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) to find the “real truth” behind the late Jackie Selebi’s conviction for corruption in August 2010.

According to the Sunday Times, Duarte, who was one of thousands who attended Selebi’s funeral on Saturday said: “The notion that Jackie was corrupt cannot stand.”

In a statement read out at the funeral, former president Thabo Mbeki also called on the NPA to conduct an “honest and thorough investigation” into Selebi’s conviction.

He said that Selebi will not be remembered as the villain that he has been portrayed as.  Mbeki said the question that lingers is who was right and who was wrong? “Perhaps the NPA will help us all to answer this question,” he said.

Selebi died late last month aged 64. He had reportedly suffered from diabetes and kidney problems, reported News24.

He was sentenced to 15 years' imprisonment on 3 August 2010, for taking bribes from convicted drug dealer Glenn Agliotti.

The former head of Interpol started serving his sentence in 2011, after being found guilty of corruption in 2010. He was released from Pretoria central prison on medical parole less than a year later.

Comments
  • Petrus LeRoux - 2015-02-01 08:23

    Wonder how long comments will be open......

  • Made Inthe South - 2015-02-01 08:24

    Legacy of Selebi the cadre deployee-Disbandment of specialiced units like murder and robbery and anti corruption units.ZANC don't want strong investigative units.That was why the Scorpions was disbanded as well.That is why you see the current BIG PURGE at the Hawks and SARS and now Nxasana is next So they can steal more,my child,so they can steal more

      Ernst Erich Hamann - 2015-02-01 09:50

      @Ant...how do you terrorize and loot a bush??

      Jonathan Woods - 2015-02-01 11:49

      I don't normally agree with censorship. But if it means bury Anthony / Charlie and his multitude of other persons in a deep hole and pouring 100 tons of quickset cement on top of it, then I'm all for it. The only fear is that what he exudes is so toxic that even that would not contain him !

  • Petrus LeRoux - 2015-02-01 08:25

    And obvious the NPA will come out that this selebi rubbish is innocent. ..people know by now if you go against the "chiefs" you get fired. .

      Jurgen Hartmann - 2015-02-01 08:28

      The anc crims are going to try and whitewash a skunk....

      Made Inthe South - 2015-02-01 08:30

      It is called rewriting of history.The masses are not allowed to know that their leaders steal from them

      Petrus LeRoux - 2015-02-01 08:36

      Made. .the masses are called subjects, they still believe in chiefs and rulers

      Ernst Erich Hamann - 2015-02-01 09:51

      @Ant.....yaaaaawn.....

      Klip Indiebos - 2015-02-01 09:56

      Hey, Charlie the only dumb and stupid here is you.

      CliveK - 2015-02-01 21:45

      It has already been denied by the NPA that such an investigation is taking place, clearly a case of the right and left hands being total strangers.

  • Akuku Juju - 2015-02-01 08:25

    Thabo Mbeki should've been convicted of accepting gifts from criminal Selebi.

  • RabbleRouser - 2015-02-01 08:26

    But Jackie Selebi was tried in a court of law. That is where the "real truth" was established. That is where the evidence is tested under cross examination. The court also found that Selebi lied through his teeth when giving his testimony of 'his version' of events. So what "real truth" is Mbeki and Duarte seeking? They have already indicated that they have an agenda by disputing that he was corrupt. The court found that he was.

      watchman - 2015-02-01 08:59

      Rabble that is exactly my take on the matter, after millions of taxpayers money was spent he was proven guilty.

      Stirer Kathray - 2015-02-01 09:07

      Obviously trying to manipulate the NPA for political gain. The NPA cannot overrule a court of law. Selebi was found guilty "beyond reasonable doubt". If there was the possibility of an error in the court's ruling, then an appeal process could have been applied. It is now four years later. Selebi was a dirty cop on the take, a scoundrel, a thief and a liar.

      RabbleRouser - 2015-02-01 09:50

      @Stirer. And that is exactly what happened. Selebi did appeal and the Appeal court still concluded that he was guilty.

      Muriel Fincham - 2015-02-03 12:53

      Excellent comment - well spoken.

  • Linds Ron-House - 2015-02-01 08:27

    The NPA and the court relied on evidence given by a convicted drug lord who also publicly admitted to facilitating Brett Kebble's assisted suicide. Aglioti also admitted in court that he lied when it suited him. About 4 to 6 murderers and drug dealers were given Section 204 deals in order to convict Selebi. Many of them lied in court, as the judge said in his judgement, but their deals were not revoked. I have to agree with Mbeki that there's more to this.

      Petrus LeRoux - 2015-02-01 08:39

      Like in the murder of Chris Hani?

      Jurie Nel - 2015-02-01 09:37

      Frank, you said it. Thanks. Linds seems to be a conspiracy theorist of note.

      Linds Ron-House - 2015-02-01 10:46

      Have you seen the recent film/documentary 204: Getting Away With Murder?

      Tina-Marie Trevenen - 2015-02-01 11:31

      Finally a voice in the wilderness who I totally agree with on this subject!!! After readying the book - "The Killing of Brett Kebble", I always thought there was more to Selebi's prosecution than met the eye!

      Jonathan Woods - 2015-02-01 12:06

      Yes Tina-Marie just like their paranoia about NOT releasing CDL, because they're terrified of opening Pandora's box and letting all the evil " truths" out. This actually has me wondering if it is not the start of some major internal faction fighting and realignments of loyalties within the governing party.

      Nikki Downes - 2015-02-01 17:40

      Linds, I can't argue either way. But I do have questions then. 1). Why did Mbeki and Duarte not speak up until after he passed away? 2). Why did Selebi not continuously fight for Justice to be done? 3). In most cases there is dishonesty on all sides. Was this dishonesty really what got him found guilty? Or 4). Was the truth strong enough to outshine any lies and he was found guilty based on truth? It's highly unlikely that with Selebi no longer around to be re questioned that we will get closer to the truth this time. If anything it's risky that the truthful be twisted

  • Mary Milne Archibald - 2015-02-01 08:28

    Another waste of the taxpayers' money!

      RabbleRouser - 2015-02-01 08:32

      It's not going to happen. The case is closed and the judgement of the court stands. In any event, the person in the centre of the case is now dead. She cannot be cross examined again.

  • kohlhoferw - 2015-02-01 08:28

    Now that he is dead, the history and facts will be changed. Wait for Selebi boulevard.....

  • Ernst Erich Hamann - 2015-02-01 08:29

    ANC, always trying to fine some one or something else to blame.

  • rsleetcher - 2015-02-01 08:29

    Why did Mbeki have to wait till Selebi died before he wants a full investigation, is it perhaps now Selebi can't talk and implicate him?

      RabbleRouser - 2015-02-01 08:33

      It's just the usual political speak and conspiracy theory stuff that goes nowhere.

      Nikki Downes - 2015-02-01 17:42

      Hmmm. I asked the same questions but hadn't considered that angle on Mbeki. Perhaps?

  • David Lee Dunn - 2015-02-01 08:29

    That's the way of government. Never just accepting the truth. Must always establish a commission or probe or investigation. Throwing good money after bad. Never ending supply of taxpayers money...

  • Don Tandy - 2015-02-01 08:32

    Trying to do like they do for showerhead- use political influence to circumvent the law. What a mob of corrupt lying thieves.

  • Frans Jacobs - 2015-02-01 08:32

    the scumbag was a criminal just like all his anc buddies!!!!

  • Hendrik Johannes van Staden - 2015-02-01 08:33

    First of all there was not thousands, maybe hundreds who attended the funeral. Secondly it was proven in court and was never disputed that Selebi received the money, not even he disputed it, he only tried to say it wasn't wrong to take money and wanted to justify it. Please don't make fools of yourself and Jesse when you open your mouth we know you are lying and want to justify wrongs done.

      Moss Machoose - 2015-02-01 08:37

      We're u there to witness the thousands or hundreds??

      Ernst Erich Hamann - 2015-02-01 08:45

      Just like the 70 thousand that attended the ANC birthday bash in WC. In the end it was only 40 thousand........

      Jonathan Woods - 2015-02-01 12:09

      Yes and most of them came in from elsewhere by bus or train.

  • David Muir577 - 2015-02-01 08:34

    Why not investigate Shabir Shaiks conviction while you are at it? Trying to paint criminals in a different colour!

      Jurgen Hartmann - 2015-02-01 08:46

      Yes, especially if the extent of his illness (severe golfitis?) complies with that set out in the Act.

  • Brad Saunders - 2015-02-01 08:35

    Here comes the beeeg whitewash or should I be politically correct and say blackwash?

  • Nico Nyathi - 2015-02-01 08:35

    I can't believe this Mbeki, intelligence gone to waste.Selebi was a insane parasite,not a villian. They want to protect a dead body. Ya ne ANC, bunch of rubbish,running the country down. Running the country on borrowed diesel, borrowed money,borrowed labour

      Thoko Khanya - 2015-02-01 09:15

      I just hope you can read the whole letter before commenting. These journalists just quote one piece of the letter and lazy people like you get excited. Go to his Facebook page, read the whole letter(unedited),then come back and comment.

  • deepchund.ramchurren - 2015-02-01 08:35

    He was on the payroll of drug dealer Glen Agliotti while head of Interpol, an absolute disgrace, that is the truth.

  • Mark Smith - 2015-02-01 08:36

    While you at it can we have the real truth about who ordered the murders of Joe Modiese and Chris Hani.

      Jurgen Hartmann - 2015-02-01 08:43

      Yes, and also on if Thabs paid any tax on the 23 million US dollars from the arms deal.....

      Thoko Khanya - 2015-02-01 09:06

      Get your facts straight. Modise died of natural cause.

      Mark Smith - 2015-02-01 10:13

      Thoko if you think poison is a natural cause of death then that's your opinion.

  • Graham Grant Hayward - 2015-02-01 08:37

    Selebi is a skelm ANC vark.He was schooled well by his organization.Next election ANC going to get lekker hurt.It's time the DA gets all the fragmented parties together , raise the funds and kick ANC butt.

  • Cilla Van Rensburg - 2015-02-01 08:38

    Cannot believe that millions must now be spent in a new investigation to uncover the "Real Truth" behind his conviction! A court of law found him guilty as charged. If he was taking the rap for someone else and he chose not to disclose this during the trail then he must face the music alone. (as it happened) Why did they not ask for this while he was still alive?

      Jurie Nel - 2015-02-01 09:41

      Cilla, it is not cast in concrete that there will be an investigation. I believe there won't be - it is not justifiable. It is simply an attempt to rewrite history - a vain one, I hope.

  • Lew Skannen - 2015-02-01 08:39

    It really does not matter if a probe is launched or not. The problem is that we can no longer believe a single word the anc says, or any finding any of their organizations make. Their words mean nothing. Selebi was found guilty and no other investigation will find something else, but I do believe that the anc may actually come up with something crazy unbelievable that selebi may actually have been 'innocent'.

  • Kasturi Harichand - 2015-02-01 08:40

    Does this government know anything about truth,,,more taxpayers money to waste,

  • Chief Kok - 2015-02-01 08:44

    Jan van Riebeeck?

  • Luzan Lenyanyabedi - 2015-02-01 08:45

    Why only now that he is gone . leave the man to rest in peace.

  • Johan van Papendorp - 2015-02-01 08:46

    Mbeki an Duarte fed up with nr 1 an his cronies? Somwhere out there somebody knows the truth. South Africans just need to find that person...

  • Wimpy Van Der Westhuizen - 2015-02-01 08:47

    and i ask the H R C to look at the real reason why Clive D Lewis where not paroled

  • Chris Bothma - 2015-02-01 08:51

    Oh well, the ANC cannot change the future of it's people for the better, so now they want to change the history. Selebi wasn't guilty, Nkandla did not happen blah blah blah

  • Andre De Klerk - 2015-02-01 08:51

    So politicians are saying the justice system got it wrong? Slippery slope...soon we will be driving on Selebi boulevard... does it really have so few good honest leaders that the ANC must scrape the bottom of the barrel

  • Hluvukani Craig Mabasa - 2015-02-01 08:54

    If money for investigation has to be spent it must be zuma corruption case which was mysteriously dismissed while shabir was convicted not on selebi who has since passed on. its coming clearer that npa is used by powerful individual to fight political battles

      Steve Ritchie - 2015-02-01 09:13

      Spot on Hlu. Big money and greedy kept politicians.

  • Sydney Zizi Tyeku - 2015-02-01 08:55

    he was corrupt when he was still alive.He was investigated then n found to b corrupt.Now he dead n innocent,unless he continue in his death then the dead ppl will investigate him in his grave.Remember he is in another world he is no longer with us.

  • Sydney Zizi Tyeku - 2015-02-01 08:59

    Hoping that Zuma is smiling wherever he is knowing that when he is dead Mbeki n the Jessie will remember as the cleanest prez.The accusation of rape corruption,Nkandla will b ivestigated in his death

  • Robert Keene - 2015-02-01 09:01

    Can the NPA be left to prosecute the living and stop wasting their time idolising the dead?

  • Ring Worm - 2015-02-01 09:07

    Why could duarte and mbeki not call for the probe while he was alive. A other waste of taxpayers money/!!!!!!

  • EC Ueckermann - 2015-02-01 09:09

    The head of police being friends with a drug kingpin does not bode well for his supposed innocence. "Glen Agliotti is my friend, finish and klaar". The head of state being friends with a convicted fraudster, Shabir Shaik. Same storybook different wrapping.

  • Foxiloxi - 2015-02-01 09:12

    I am hard pressed to find a single one that is NOT corrupt!!!

  • thys.pretorius.583 - 2015-02-01 09:15

    Is there an ANC official who is not corrupt

  • Rene Baldie - 2015-02-01 09:15

    Do the investigation by all means. However, let it be at the full expense of duarte and mbeki. If they want this let them pay for all legal fees including any other related costs such as lunches etc! Stop wasting taxpayers money!!! The sheer arrogance of these people is unbelievable.

      Stefan Ferreira - 2015-02-01 09:50

      Rene, the most intelligent comment l've read all day. Well done. Couldn't agree more!

  • Johan Nothnagel - 2015-02-01 09:17

    And how does this work ? Jail a man for decades, when he dies - you want the truth.....typical criminal african stupidity. For me he will allways be remembered as a criminal.

  • Vuyo Ntsinde - 2015-02-01 09:31

    Why is Mbeki, so protective of Selebi, does he know something we don't.

  • Japie Moolman - 2015-02-01 09:31

    Do they plan to summons Selebi to give evidence during that investigation? The same as the SABC lawyers wanted to know how they could summons my late mother for not paying her TV licence while they had her death certificate. The ANC machinery works in mysterious ways. The ANC never fail to surprise. A former president uttering such trash is a disgrace to our country.

  • nhlonipho.masombuka - 2015-02-01 09:42

    Corruption is corruption.. even when a man has gone to the great beyond he will be remembered for what was proven to be whilst he was alive. So to waste money that should benefit the living just to put a wool over people's eyes is the lowest from of intelligence

  • Eugene Van Der Walt - 2015-02-01 09:48

    I'm perplexed: they failed to conjure up evidence to stave off a prison sentence when he was alive, why would the find contradicting evidence now?! What is the point of fighting for a better past? He died a criminal, you are not going to change that.

  • Stuart Shaw - 2015-02-01 09:52

    Who instructed the SABC to broadcast the funeral service? Is this what my license money goes to? What was this guy to the population....nothing for me, just that he was caught out and didn't spend the time in jail he should have!!!!!

  • John James Smyth - 2015-02-01 10:11

    The cognitive dissonance that infects these ANC people's brains is quite extraordinary. Selebi was convicted of these crimes after a long and exhaustive process of law and is clearly guilt without a shadow of doubt. And yet they deny that this is so? That any of these people should believe that they are fir for any position higher than toilet cleaner is utterly shocking!

  • George Slade - 2015-02-01 10:26

    The Truth HAS been uncovered: He was a Thug . Perhaps the Truth that that ANC remains a Terrorist group needs now to be restated !!

  • Putco Lebepe - 2015-02-01 10:30

    There is nothing to probe here. Majority of ANC leaders are being corrupted. So let Jackie Selebi RIP. History has already judged him.

  • Bloody Agent - 2015-02-01 10:47

    Which "truth" would this be exactly? As dictated by Zuma and his Zumions? Selebi was a rotten cop. point period, end of discussion!!

  • Xolani J Mbambo - 2015-02-01 10:48

    Mxm, should the NPA now spend time and money to paint the dirty with the white paint? No one knew Selebi after being paroled, everyone kept at distance. If one don't know what to say about the thief in the memorial service, to keep quiet is better...

  • Jacqueline Benjamin - 2015-02-01 10:51

    As above so below. Good riddance to bad rubbish. The ANC is rotten to it's core.