Metro cops' bikes confiscated

2011-01-13 10:34

Pretoria - An irate director in the Tshwane metro police apparently threatened to have her own officials locked up during a bizarre incident on Wednesday.

This resulted in Tshwane confiscating its own motorcycles on Wednesday morning.

The drama played out at the municipality's Rondalia building in the Pretoria CBD when Pinkie Mathabathe "cracked down" on Tshwane's motorcycle task team.

It was apparently the officials' firearm licences, which expired at the end of last year and have not since been renewed, which led to the incident.

According to legislation, metro police officials may not serve without a legal firearm.


Mathabathe, who acted as Tshwane's interim chief for community safety for a while last year, reportedly went on a mission against the 11 officials at this building.

"She gave us quite the tongue lashing, told us we're too lazy to work and threatened to have us locked up," one of the officials involved told Beeld confidentially.

He and his colleagues apparently tried in vain in December to get appointments at Tshwane's Premos training college, where the licences are renewed annually.

"We have to work, but we can't do so without licences. What do they expect from us?"

Mathabathe ordered that the officials' motorcycles be confiscated and they were loaded onto a trailer.

"She also threatened to disband the unit and now we don't have motorcycles. There's a great amount of uncertainty."


Mathabathe summarily dismissed Beeld on Wednesday afternoon when asked for comment by saying she's in a meeting.

"Call me later," she said. She could not be reached again.

William Baloyi, metro police spokesperson, did not respond to a message.

Karen Meyer, the DA's spokesperson for community safety in Tshwane, said the situation is unacceptable since the public pays these officials' salaries.

"The DA can't take exception to Mathabathe's behaviour. The question is who was responsible for seeing to it that the licences were renewed on time?

"Officials who are stranded at work are badly managed," Meyer said.

  • Smaal - 2011-01-13 10:43

    Someone once told me that the workers only work or rather are as good as their managers are. He turned out to be correct.

      James - 2011-01-13 11:11

      Stupid, you must abide to the rules and regulations two wrongs is not equal to right. Failure to comply with safety measures at work is a dismissible offence. What do you think if you work without a fire arm in this crime haven province? Do you want to charge somebody with an unlicensed fire arm when yours too is not licenced? IDIOT

      Barry M - 2011-01-13 12:23

      James you tosser - the British police work without firearms, why can't ours? Smaal - reckon you hit the nail on the head! These blokes ate only reflecting the rot that starts at the top with old stinkie pinkie!

      Ldn Saffa - 2011-01-13 14:33

      Well this says it all!! The police weren't told there gun licences had expired? SAA didn't realise two of there planes leases had expired? Hey maybe thats why our country is going to the dogs, somebody forgot to tell all our politicians that there brain cells have expired.

  • jstathought - 2011-01-13 10:44

    Well done Mathabathe

      James - 2011-01-13 11:08

      They want drivers to drive with licences and with car that have valid registrations discs yet they fail to comply with their safety measures. They should be fired because they are setting a really bad presidency. They should be setting a good example to the community. Police must understand that the community is its customers that need to be treated with professionalism. They must be fired!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Colourblind - 2011-01-13 14:17

      The issue has to do with firearm licences and NOT with vehicle licenses. There is no logic in your statement.

  • Gatvolverby - 2011-01-13 10:57

    This is what you will get an expct when the country is runne by a bunch of clowns, and ass Holes!! Now this is so funny this story now i carry on, on my bony speeding cutting throw cars and breaking traffic law's there goes the only hope that could have cought me.

  • Gatvolverby - 2011-01-13 11:00

    Confiscated bikes because task teams's firearm licences had expired...... Did i miss somthing now? There is nothing right in the left brain and nothing left in the right brain of these people....

      Grant - 2011-01-13 11:42

      They cannot SERVE without a licenced firearm. So if they cannot serve, why should they be able to use the bikes??

      Sizwe - 2011-01-13 11:43

      The bikes are official vehicles if they use them then they will be presumed to be on duty, to ensure the dept does not become liable for a law suit should an incident occur the manager acted correctly.

  • chris.debeer1 - 2011-01-13 11:01

    Wait till one VIKING needs a motorbike parade into town and all the bikes are confiscated. Vikings are funny creatures

  • AJ - 2011-01-13 11:04

    Viva Pinkie - it's not your problem others in the chain have let these guys down. Nice to see someone simply enforcing the law, using their authority visibly in accordance with the law, regardless of who they are acting against.

      Calmone - 2011-01-13 12:18

      I agree AJ>Take a stand.Well done.

      Masters - 2011-01-13 12:32

      Hello AJ, I am on you with this one. At last somebody in authority who seems to be doing things the right way. Pinkie Mathabathe I applaud you if the above article is correct and fairly represents the facts.

  • The Bat Man - 2011-01-13 11:17

    A round of applause for Mathabathe. Someone needs to take charge and DO something. Well done!

      Grant - 2011-01-13 11:45

      Agreed! When people cruise along doing what they like with no fear of consequence, things deterriorate rapidly. Good to see these cops getting a good proper wake-up-call!

  • Cina - 2011-01-13 11:30

    They know when the licences expire, are they still children that they must be told to please go and renew your licence. If I know at work that a licence or password expires I don't wait for someone to tell me to it, I do it myself because I'm and adult and I know my it's my responsebility to do it, and not at the last minute as well.

      nobodyneedstoknowme - 2011-01-13 11:41

      Do you want a badge or maybe a certificate?

      Barry M - 2011-01-13 12:24

      Give her a Noddy Badge!

      pawsaw - 2011-01-13 22:37

      In fairness to the cops the licences for the firearms have probably hit the same cul de sac that all other civilian gun licencees have been struggling with. Surely it is the job of the administrators to issue licences and keep tabs on what datre they expire and send off for renewal in time. The traffic officers shouldn't be standing in queues of civil servants who o on strike at the drop of a hat or simply ignore you while you stand in front of them when they are on their cell phones. I'm sure that this is all down to cadres being deployed who haven't passed matric and never seen let alone operated computers etc expected to do a vital job which they are not trained for. Where have the senior officials been who should be monitoring this sort of thing day to day? On holiday, watching sport who knows? Pinkie I am sure the officers concerned are relieved to have been relieved of their bikes if they didn't have licensed guns. They most likely had no amoo for the guns either as the clerk meant to order it didn'y understand a word that was written on the order. I am tempted to use a very politically incorrect word her to describe a collective of clowns. Big mouths full of hot air unable to run a brothel never mind a civil service. Well Pinkie! You've shown everyone how things ought to be DONE, but how did it reach this pass to start with? HAHAHA

  • Vernon - 2011-01-13 11:35

    What are they gonna do now that the 'CHiPS'are down or is it 'CHiMPS'

      Renier - 2011-01-13 13:08

      So, Tshepo - you then go and do the same thing. The idiot Vernon might not even BE a "flat foot Dutchman" as you put it. Does this then justify me flinging some dung in your direction? Didn't think so.

  • Goofster - 2011-01-13 11:48

    Did they at least get to keep their blue lights and sirens? The motorcycle task team would look silly without those.

  • Other Justin - 2011-01-13 11:49

    LOL! This is what you get when you have a corrupt, racist ANC-PF government in power. Bad management, bad attitudes & all round bad service. VIVA AMAUSELESS VIVA!!!

  • themantshepo - 2011-01-13 11:56

    good stuff those bastads must spend a night in jail as well, we cannot have cops with guns running around like wild cowboys this is not the wild west....

      Colourblind - 2011-01-13 14:20

      Holy crap! I actually agree with tshepo...well, almost. Jail is a bit harsh. Suspension without pay is probably more appropriate.

      Kevin - 2011-01-13 16:42

      You've obviously run foul of the law previously...hence your tyranical outburst is not targeted at us so called racists this time!!!!

  • Tazzy - 2011-01-13 12:05

    Waaahahaha!oh wow! Obviously you did not know that your license was expiring and therefore could only go and renew in December !! Thats responsible! Now you dont have a bike, shame see, and we must all feel sorry for you because you cant work .. NOT. Well done sista!

  • Francois Stander - 2011-01-13 12:09

    Oh my word you guys are blithering idiots. The officers did try to renew their licenses, but were unable to get the college to give them a date in time. Pinky Mathabathe should have used her position of power to get the guys an appointment to renew their licenses in stead of trying to look all important and tough by confiscating their bikes and threatening to close the unit. They cannot go out in uniform without guns. It's time the management of the Metro Police start looking after and backing it's members, in stead of fighting them every step of the way. No wonder the moral is as low as it is.

      Antoinette - 2011-01-13 12:50

      Okay - so they tried. I'm wondering if they let anybody know that they can't get an appointment? Did they attempt to escalate the situation? Did they even go as far as letting Mathabathe know they can't get in? Or did they just sit back and wait for the thing to expire? In the end we are all responsible for our own jobs, and if you cannot do it, then you must let the powers that be know that you are having problems to do your job. Well, that's how it works in most companies i've worked at.

      Karen - 2011-01-13 14:15

      Ah come onnnn. From all that's been said it clearly wasn't brought to her attention. They are a bunch of useless assholes at the best of times. The morale is so low because they are a bunch of lazy, bribe taking or bribe enforcing thieves. This doesn't exactly lend itself to high morale, does it?

      Antoinette - 2011-01-13 15:31

      Zactly, Karen.

  • bill - 2011-01-13 12:09

    Pitiful!Africa at its best!

  • Will99 - 2011-01-13 12:16

    Well done! Not checking something as important as the expire date! Well Done!!

  • Julian - 2011-01-13 12:25

    FINALLY, an official actually being proactive and doing something instead of turning a blind eye, just a pity she's local gov and not national. I seriously doubt the other fat cats further up the chain will actually sit up and decide to do something constructive instead of use parliment to catch up on sleep. But then again local elections are coming up, maybe this is why she's doing it!

      Zion - 2011-01-13 12:32

      She probably never will make national because she is not crooked enough.

  • ArtGee - 2011-01-13 12:33

    ANC couldn't run a BATH..let alone a Dept...

      quack - 2011-01-13 12:41

      give her a KFC rounder !

  • Johan - 2011-01-13 12:39

    where can we collect the bikes? We sure need them for the work we do!!!

  • d54 - 2011-01-13 12:43

    Why were they not charged with possesion of an unlicenced fire arm like anybody else?

      Karen - 2011-01-13 14:12

      Exactly d54, EXACTLY !!!!!

  • Antoinette - 2011-01-13 12:44

    Well done to Mathabathe. Really. You make a plan and do the minimum requirements. There's no excuse in our company for not complying, so why should there be for metros? Also, to Barry M........there's a reason our cops have guns. You actually asked that question? Are you for real? If an armed hijacker shoots you, do you want the police to tazer him?

      Deirdre - 2011-01-13 13:29

      Depends on the charge the tazer carries, and where it's put

      Antoinette - 2011-01-13 15:30

      Deirdre - good point! :)

  • watalife - 2011-01-13 12:45

    How about this: Your employee must at all times ensure that you have the correct tools for job? The buck stops with Mathabathe as the manager. If they did try and get it and had problems then she should have acted earlier. Is this just another case of somebody being placed for the sake of AA? If they did indeed fail to do anything they should be taken to task.

  • Goose - 2011-01-13 12:46

    As per the DA's comment, if it was the officers responsibility to renew their own licences, then they should have been given time off to do this. If they were not then the police management are at fault. Let the facts come to the fore before we verbally abuse anyone guys...

      Karen - 2011-01-13 14:10

      why then hell do they need time off?? All they ever do is sit around anyway - usually at petrol stations drinking bloody coffee!!

      pawsaw - 2011-01-13 22:45

      You have to admit that if it wasn't so serious it would be hysterically funny! And they wonder where pur cartoonists find their material. You can't make this stuff up (pardon the gun; sorry I mean pun)

  • madmax1977 - 2011-01-13 13:05

    Gestremde pigmente kan niks reg doen nie .weet net hoe om geld te steel , en om oneerlik te wees

      Colourblind - 2011-01-13 14:22

      Gestremde pigmente? Are you for real? In my experience most embezzlers are white my pigmently challenged friend...not that that has jack squat to do with this article. Nobody was stealing nay money. Idiot.

      Kevin - 2011-01-13 16:46

      @colourblind...are their still white traffic cops around these days???

      pawsaw - 2011-01-13 22:47

      Didn't you read about Odendaal and Winnie's run in then? Maybe his gun was also unlicensed which is why he poked the chauffeur in the chest with his finger instead...

  • Totman - 2011-01-13 13:33

    What should have happened: When the record[ there should be one ] in the offices stated the expiring date is due, the guns should have been confiscated and the cops should have work without of them. If refuse, take action against them. If the cops talking the truth, they should have handed there guns in to their person in charge and said that they need assistance with appointments.[ They should have done this even before the expiring date] While there authorization/licences pending they could refused to work the dangerous areas and just do the areas where they feel safe in. It would have brought this problem up in the begin, shown who the guilty ones were and a possible solution could h'v been found. Now it is the public that suffers.

  • Spade - 2011-01-13 14:09

    what about the firearms? Are they still carrying the firearms? I would have thought the firearms should be confiscated, not the motorbikes...

  • Joe - 2011-01-13 14:10

    you can't make this crap up...

  • DeonL - 2011-01-13 14:16

    They should have confiscated the fire arms not the bikes. Bad or failure to plan strikes once again.

      Karen - 2011-01-13 14:47

      Of COURSE they should've bloody taken the bikes - why the hell should they use something WE pay for when they are breaking the law? Do they also fill-up the bikes with petrol WE pay for? Right now they committed a crime i.e. they are CRIMINALS!! Carrying unlicenced firearms is a crime. Why should they still have use of the bikes?

  • Ldn Saffa - 2011-01-13 14:32

    Well this says it all!! The police weren't told there gun licences had expired? SAA didn't realise two of there planes leases had expired? Hey maybe thats why our country is going to the dogs, somebody forgot to tell all our politicians that there brain cells have expired.

  • Mart - 2011-01-13 14:59

    I like the fact that action was taken for non-compliance of regulations, although I may not agree with the course these actions took. Ultimately Management is responsible for the infractions but hats off to the Director for taking action. Now if our country's Leaders would be so bold as to start laying down the law to errant civil servants...wouldn't that be something ?

      Kevin - 2011-01-13 16:49

      she'll probably be deported or transfered to some clerks dare she buck the system (waht system)!!!!

  • steven.m.armour - 2011-01-13 17:47

    Pinkie winkie,she should go and play with the rest of the teletubbies.She should support her staff if they are having problems getting relicensed.She is now working against her own mandate. Stupid Prawn

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