Mining strikes to escalate, says group

2012-10-13 21:32

Rustenburg - The strike in the mining sector is set to continue, the strike co-ordinating committee said on Saturday.

"No amounts of threats or death can stop us, we are determined to continue with the strike," said spokesperson Mametlwe Sebei.

He said a meeting of the strike committees in all mines in the country have agree to intensify the strike.

"We have agreed to escalate the strike, we are going to shut down the bit that are still operating," he told reporters in Marikana.

Minimum wage

"All workers in the country must be paid a minimum of R12 500, we are calling for a minimum wage for all workers."

He said they also agreed to embark on a national strike in November to push for a minimum wage. The national strike was planned for 3 November.

Mametlwe, who is from the Democratic Socialist Movement, denied that they have hijacked the mineworkers strike.

"We are in solidarity with the workers. Four weeks after the Marikana strike, we saw that no one was standing up for the workers and we offered them solidarity."

He said his movement would canvas international support for mineworkers.

"We will call for solidarity march at SA embassy abroad, the day workers stage a national strike. It is not fair that mineworkers are living in poor condition while the bosses pets are far better."

  • lacrimose.wolf - 2012-10-13 21:54

    Trying to solve the wrong problem in the wrong way. R12.5k or pack your bags and go, defies economic logic. Even without these strikes, 20 000 mining jobs are going to be shed in the next 10 years (estimate from Adcorp). Right now, the stats we're told is that every miner is directly supporting 6 other people. That is immediate family. Each miner also provides work for another 10 people through the chain of what they consume at work and at home. So if we follow the "pack your bags and go" model, that is INSTANTLY 17 people without income. Multiply by just 1000, that is 17 000 people without income. Not only instantly, but forever.

      duncan.gill1 - 2012-10-13 21:59

      As a result life becomes intolerable in SA the end is nigh for life here as we know it slowly ever so slowly are the battle lines being drawn..!See world how you sacrificed nearly 5 million whites to disaster and war!

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-10-13 22:21

      @dunkie56 - but it has always been The Alliance's goal to reduce everything and everyone to the lowest common denominator. It's the only way they can possibly retain power.

  • archie.mooki - 2012-10-13 22:15

    fight and win min wage of R12500 but remember you will lose another, keeping your members in the workforce and they will reliase that half of bread Is better than nothing ,what one need is just brains ......

      peter.ngwenya.7 - 2012-10-21 22:06

      Mr mooki sir a you working in a mine or do you have a relative working in a mine?

  • RudiErnst - 2012-10-13 22:24

    This spokesperson is the reason why business owners are no longer interested in engaging workers. The ignorance is almost poetic in its beauty. Sebei's attitude encourages idiots in all industries to demand more than economic reality allows employers to pay. Workers are losing their jobs because of people with big mouths.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-10-13 22:34

      Workers are losing their jobs because the market for un-skilled, manual labour is shrinking. There are no avenues in ZA for people to re-skill into other professions because a) there's no viable education system in place and b) we've not developed any other competitive industries. It's been really great having all this stuff under our feet, but as the world needs fewer mined products, there's nowhere else for miners and all the people up and down the chain of mining output, to earn a living.

  • mike.clery - 2012-10-13 22:29

    "All workers in the country must be paid a minimum of R12 500, we are calling for a minimum wage for all workers." I don't know if that'll help when a loaf of bread costs R150. Buy your wheelbarrow now so that you can move the cash you'll need to do a week's grocery shopping .....

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-10-13 22:46

      Who's going to manuf. wheelbarrows when the workers have to be paid R12.5k?

      nhlanhla.mahlangu.7393 - 2012-10-14 00:36

      Do u really tink dat these guys perceives the meanin of the word 'minimum' wel i dnt tink so, bcoz 1 last tym i was watching TV n a TV personnel said 2 a certain guy 'hepi bday' n he replied 'hepi bday 2 u 2', n yet we take it s a joke

  • jacques.theron.3304 - 2012-10-13 22:31

    Ok, lets look at economics 101. If this works and the mines everywhere pays these types of salaries, many mines will have to close down because their entire bussiness will become unviable. So, from 12500 it will go to 0. But lets look at this a little further. I know that personally, if I run a company, the last type of employee I would want is one that burns my property, kill or threaten to kill my other employees and embark in other illegal activities (eg. illegal strikes). Personally, I wouldnt want to work with people like that...but call me crazy.

      SharonE - 2012-10-13 23:23

      I have to wonder about conspiracy here. Are the workers being manipulated into demanding wages that the mines can't sustain, making it uneconomical to run? If they shut down, what will happen? Will the ANC start them up again as part of their portfolio? Will they nationalise them - if they are bankrupt they will effectively be worthless. Where do the Chinese fit in here?

  • Patrick Fenton - 2012-10-13 22:31

    moori ask yourself this and this applies world wide, what has the black man invented? then look around, the clothes you wear the chair you sit in the car you drive the phone you reading this on..... you all so happy to live like a coconut but show no respect on how to achieve it. You a bunch of frogs in pot on the fire....

      nhlanhla.mahlangu.7393 - 2012-10-14 09:19

      no wonder y in Australia they have 2 mch skin cancer its bcoz a white men never thought of future ozone depletion! after he made that invention he only thought about money! miners ul get ur R12 500 soon it only requires resistance! Lol

  • Shaun McDermott - 2012-10-13 22:53

    the longer the strike goes on the richer the mine companies get. as the price of gold etc shoots up, the Rand devalues guess who is laughing all the way to the Bank? yup you miners is stoopid your fault you allowed your bosses to get richer and i know that they are not worried so the longer the strike goes on mine running at 20per cent. gold and platinum goes sky high. Eish do ze Maths for yourselves.

      andy.zondi - 2012-10-13 23:00

      Smh u idiot, regardless of how high the price of gold or platinum gets, if there isn't any MINERS to extract that gold, then its just sitting there in the miners, no gold, no money

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-10-13 23:10

      erm, clearly do not know anything about deep-level mining. Once a shaft is moth-balled it's too costly to ever re-open. Risk-reward. 3 months of no operations on a shaft, it's closed for good.

  • beverly.young3 - 2012-10-13 23:25

    @ andy.zondi, you are soooooo wrong. There are bullion stashes all over the world, almost every major country has their stash, that is how 'money' is protected, to put it simplisticly. Best you read up on 'google' about money before you make a silly statement like this. FACT. The less mined, the higher the price....the miners are doing investors a favour, they are harming themslves. Sadly, the masses are led by a few, and when the 'mine-dust' settles,they will rue their actions. e.g. a silly example I know,but when the government ruled that farmers had to share their land with workers, thousands were retrenched almost immediately. The examples again if you look at the townships which were flooded with ex-farm workers. Families, who had been born on the farms, now had to find work, tradtitions displaced etc. Salaries might be out of contexct, but why dont the thousands of 'cashiers' of giant organsiations strike? their take home pay is pathetic. Is there a solutuion? yup, organised discussions maybe, but not strikes. That only makes people stubborn. The 'mines' can out-sit strikes, it is the off-spin that is disasterous....

  • Shaun McDermott - 2012-10-13 23:48

    Now we have bigger problem..... business etc have borrowed into infinity and we are stuffed. if you are wealthy you can have savings pegged on gold as an investment. but the returns may be less but for now its secure

  • RudiErnst - 2012-10-14 00:54

    If we assume, for a moment, that the employee is entitled to that wage (and I have no problem paying any salary if an employee is able to justify it), then there are corresponding economic knock-on effects, such as higher food and fuel prices. I am no economist and would welcome their insight into my daft summary above.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-10-14 06:43

      @RudiErnt I agree, the only problem I have, is that in many other industries, 'we' are expected to pay the regulated salaries for less work. What happens then, is that you have to employ additional workers, and so the expenses spiral.

  • gunther.jurgens77 - 2012-10-14 04:52

    i believe the correct term is "hominid"

  • mooshi.thirtytwo - 2012-10-14 06:00

    Our company is dependent on the mine industry to a large extend as a servicing company. The company income have already dropped by 30% and the 150 people working in this department got notice that it might dropped another 40% in the next 12 months. Education is so important as the majority of people in South Africa do not realize that everything is connected, not just in South Africa but worldwide. If an agency down grade South Africa it is seen as a problem for a “western” country and a problem for the “west”. It is a damn shame that people can not see what their actions mean to the poor…the rich will still be rich after all this. The next question is: What will happen to all the suppliers that supplies us?

      beverly.young3 - 2012-10-14 10:36

      See that is the example I gave in my posting, @ mooshi.thirtytwo, it starts. The the money lenders have begun too, and so the spiral emerges, debt upon loans, illegal interest charged to the borrowers etc. Zapiros' latest cartoon, paints the damaging and very sad picture of the state of the nation right now.

  • Shaun McDermott - 2012-10-14 06:03

    funny i put alot of interesting data with my posting and it has been edited

  • uzziphathele.tshabalala - 2012-10-14 06:45

    An injury to one is an injury to all!!!!! what happen to that?just asking AFRICANS.....

  • teboho.martin.3 - 2012-10-14 07:29

    I think is a right thing to do they must keep on soldering on until there is no lastman standing they came this far ,so they can't give up now.I think its time where chumber of mines and trade unions as well as the government to take a serious action in this matter,as during the week we saw how weak was trade unions in terms of collective barganing in the chumbers of mines . I think miners workers they can still make it with or without trade unions.

  • Tshepo Gwamanda - 2012-10-14 07:44

    of course, strikes will escalate! even to the detriment of the entire country as our rating keeps plummeting!!! But who the hell cares!!!? our government will do NOTHING about it!!!!

  • David Steyn - 2012-10-14 08:05

    Mines in other countries work with a fraction of the man power used here. The mines in this country better wake up and mechanise because this idiotic and lawless give me,give me or else culture will not stop.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-10-14 10:40

      Strangely enough, I saw this for myself in Botswana recently. They have the LARGEST diamond mines in the world. In Maun, (out of Maun), they now only employ a fraction of the workers, since they brought in the machinery to so the job.

  • zvico.chinx - 2012-10-14 08:39

    wats wrong wth the R12 500 can sme1 highlyt me

  • robert.ferreiro - 2012-10-14 09:29

    I am sad that comments degenerate into poor comment based on race and who can do what...and there are some really good comments...and some that should not be there.What is a living wage..and how we get to we base it on 4..5...6...7...8 person family or does things for both the country and the people that think one or other people show leave are living in dream land WE all have a place in the sun and must understand that..

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-10-14 11:13

    Illegal (wildcat) strikes..FIRE the f*ckers!!

      peter.ngwenya.7 - 2012-10-21 22:18

      if you have nothing to say why dont you shut your mouth!!!

  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-10-14 12:29

    We are living in a country with a high unemployment rate and these miners are playing with the possibility of just becoming another statistic. R12500 is an unreasonable minimum wage demand, you will be replaced with machines if you don't wake up

  • patricia.dewet.92 - 2012-10-14 12:40

    What is the meaning of Democratic Socialist. Maybe I am stupid but I see it as opposites. With a name like that they are confusing themselves.

  • mavourneen.street - 2012-10-14 12:52

    South Africa is not unique in the wage differences between laborers and executives. Some of us are different in the way we manage change. Managing change with senseless violence slows potential for change for the better.

  • vandross.ntshegi - 2012-10-14 13:01

    Claudia. You need a Nap. Lol

  • irvin.mkhari - 2012-10-14 14:07

    i can not allow a situation where my people work harder to empower mine bosses,British,americans and europeans while miners earn cents.

  • andre.stass - 2012-10-15 10:14

    In Australia, mine workers are paid 10 times the R12,500 demanded by South African mine workers. So what is the problem?

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