Terre'Blanche crime scene: Minor's mom was there

2012-01-31 22:47

Ventersdorp - The mother of a minor accused in rightwing leader Eugene Terre’Blanche’s murder trial was present when he pointed out the crime scenes, the High Court in Ventersdorp heard on Tuesday.

Police officer Lieutenant Colonel Frans Jacobs, who went with the teenager to point out crime scenes on April 4 2010, said the youth's mother was already present when he arrived at the Klerksdorp police station.

Chris Mahlangu and the minor are accused of beating and hacking the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging leader to death in his farmhouse outside Ventersdorp on April 3 2010.

Both have pleaded not guilty to murder, housebreaking, and robbery with aggravating circumstances. Mahlangu claims he acted in self defence. The teenager has denied involvement in the crime.

Jacobs was testifying in a trial within a trial on Tuesday on the validity of evidence given by the two accused.

Norman Arendse, for the teenager, contended that the youth's Constitutional rights and rights under the Children's Act had been "systematically violated".

Mother cautioned

Jacobs said he had explained to the minor’s mother that she was there to protect her child's interests and that she could stop him from answering questions at any time.

He testified that the youth's rights were read to him. He had also informed the teenager that he had a right to a lawyer and that if he could not afford one, one would be provided to him by the state.

"He [the minor] said he did not want a lawyer at the moment," Jacobs said.

He told the minor any information he gave and pictures taken of the crime scenes could be used against him in court and could lead to a prison sentence.

The youth was asked if he was sure he did not want a lawyer, but he maintained that he did not want one.

The youth was asked why he had decided to point out the crime scenes, to which he answered: "I feel I want to tell the truth. I feel sorry for my mother."

Jacobs said the youth came across older than he was. He spoke and answered questions maturely.

"But I knew he was under age and therefore treated him as such."

The youth and his mother were taken to the crime scene in an unmarked bakkie.

Notes in Afrikaans

After the pointing out, the notes were read back to the youth in Afrikaans and he was asked if he understood. He said he did, but not everything.

His mother was asked the same question and she said she understood Afrikaans well and had heard everything.

Cross-examination of Jacobs starts on Wednesday morning.

Arendse cross-examined Terre'Blanche’s wife Martie earlier on Tuesday.

She was asked if she knew whether her husband abused his workers.

"Not that I know of," she replied.

She was also asked about her husband’s temper.


Martie said her husband had been much calmer after returning on June 11 2004 from the Pooigrond prison, near Mahikeng, after three- and-a-half-years imprisonment.

He was found guilty of attempted murder in 1996 after he beat petrol station attendant Paul Motshabi.

Arendse said that during the Motshabi trial many people testified they were scared of Terre'Blanche and said her husband had a history of violence.

The magistrate described Terre'Blanche as someone who got angry easily, Arendse said.

"Your honour my husband was never violent towards me," Martie said when Arendse asked if she had wanted him to stop drinking because of his temper.

She testified that she knew little about the AWB hiring detective Piet Byleveld to investigate Terre’ Blanche’s murder.

She admitted that she too would do anything to find out why her husband was killed.

"I still don’t know why," she said.Morgan said.

  • reynard.j.debeer - 2012-02-01 02:28

    God bless Africa Raise high its glory Hear our prayers God bless us, her children God, we ask You to protect our nation Intervene and end all conflicts Protect us, protect our nation, our nation, South Africa — South Africa. Ringing out from our blue heavens, From our deep seas breaking round, Over our everlasting mountains, Where the echoing crags resound, Sounds the call to come together, And united we shall stand, Let us live and strive for freedom In South Africa our land.

      Fredster - 2012-02-01 07:25

      Amazing how we sing that God needs to protect us, and bless us, but we remove Him from our schools, cultures, and Government...Sad

      LindiBleu - 2012-02-01 09:04

      my anthem always gives me goosepimples

  • Comrade - 2012-02-01 07:30

    So if ET "deserved his death" because of what he believed in....Juliarse Malema should be necklaced ???

      Kyle - 2012-02-01 10:06

      I asked friends of Julius if they will let me have a provate one on one conversation with him, they said no cause they afraid I'll kill him. They've said I should talk to him and hear his side of things but only if his bodygaurds are presant.... the twit is scared of me.... what's amusing is if I wanted him dead of idiots bodyguards of his would be useless

      Garth - 2012-02-01 10:20

      @makatika - syntax, syntax, syntax. ` . . . bring him where it is not necessary,' what the flock are you trying to say?

  • Zee - 2012-02-01 08:10

    Funny how the minor said he had nothing to do with the murder.......then how come did he take the police to the crime scene??? sorry, I dont believe him or any of their evidence.

  • stefan.fourie - 2012-02-01 08:48

    You know what is extremely sad to me? Yes apartheid was bad and that is something we must put behind us. Its 18 years of democracy. Now leaders like Julius is doing exactly the same as what Eugene did. If someone from the white race will kill him as they did Eugene "even if its a white minor. They would severely punish the kid without question. Oh and according to my knowledge. In SA a minor is up to 16 these days? Not 18?

      Heiku - 2012-02-01 10:26

      According to my extensive knowledge in the area concerned a minor is someone who works in a mine regardless of their age.

      Vicker - 2012-02-01 12:08

      @Heiku: Your knowledge is obviously not as extensive as you may think - a minEr works in a mine, a minOr is a person below the legal age. Back to school you go...

      JuditVictor - 2012-02-01 12:36

      I must say it's laughable that the ANC wants to have voting age brought down to 14 but when a 16 year-old commits murder suddenly he's a minor. And it is what it is. Nothing political. There are just too many farm murders to make one of a political nature. Those 2 thugs just do not have the IQ to know what it's about. He said from the outset it was because of money. In Africa, sorry SOUTH Africa, if you don't pay, we kill, isn't it?

  • Johnny - 2012-02-01 09:44

    There is no unity in South Africa. Everything comes down to racism in one way or another. Why does no one have a common goal to move forward? Fighting about 18 year old issues is'nt benefiting anybody, only dividing our country and taking us 5 steps backwards.

  • Gail - 2012-02-01 12:50

    You know 3 and a half years for murdering someone is in my opinion not enough time to rehabilitate a murderer. Leopards do not change their spots that easily. He may have learned to control his outbursts better but nobody can change their emotional makeup in such a short time. Sodomy may be another way of punishing men and boys on your farm as long as it is not lethal and if a person is raped sexually/sodomised a young boy in particular would be inclined to keep it quiet and turn rage inwards and become withdrawn etc. Alcohol would allow the youth to relax his inhibitions and take out the anger provided the abuser was somehow disabled by substance or through a fatal blow to the head while asleep. Sexual violence must be adequately punished but there may be extenuating circumstances such as alcohol and mental incapacity which lessen the sentence particularly in the case of the minor. ET may have been a changed man but he was always slordig and had flawed judgement or he wouldn't have served time in the first place. By the same token the minor in this case may have been angry and drunk and this led to the murder, and for that he must face the consequences and it may well be the best thing for him as he will be taught to deal with his anger more responsibly and apropriately and receive an education.

      celeste.rsa - 2012-02-01 13:36

      It was 3 and a half years for 'attempted murder' according to this article.

  • Audrey - 2012-02-01 12:54

    Stop name calling and get back to reality the topic was about ET and the trial and not about who is black and who is white only God has the rights to judge all the other people who is throwing insults at each other.

  • Deon - 2012-02-01 13:11

    Too much hatred and negatively from all sides, let us rather get ready for S15 and the Proteas to beat NZ thoroughly. Last time it was a 1-1 draw.

  • Mandy Mc Donald - 2012-02-01 13:26 are a giant ASSWIPE!!!

  • Mandy Mc Donald - 2012-02-01 13:30

    lebogang it is soooo obvious that you are a closet case! LMAO!!!

  • Mandy Mc Donald - 2012-02-01 14:50

    nice try plonker lebogang, that was an epic fail. bwahahahahahahahahaha

  • Lebogang - 2012-02-01 15:09

    in any case Mandy MC something mine is too big,

      Zee - 2012-02-01 16:21

      think your mouth is too big!!!!

  • Mandy Mc Donald - 2012-02-02 06:22

    your african butt and ego are the only things that are too big are too predictable.

  • Wilfred - 2012-02-04 22:11

    You live with violence you die violently like this right winger. Can you imagine how many peoplle he killed before he himself met the same fate.

      Juann Strauss - 2012-02-13 15:30

      Please enlighten us with the facts.

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