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Mom gets 12 years for killing her children

2012-11-13 16:38

Bloemfontein - A Pampierstad mother was sent to jail for 12 years on Tuesday for killing five of her children.

North West High Court Judge Ronald Hendricks sentenced Venolia Siwa, 35, to 12 years' imprisonment on each of the murders, which would run concurrently.

Siwa pleaded guilty to the murders in September this year in her trial in the Vryburg Circuit Court.

She murdered her children in Pampierstad, on the border between the Northern Cape and North West, in 2011.

In a statement, Siwa confessed to killing four of her children by stabbing them in the neck with a kitchen knife.

She drowed the fifth in a bath.

A spokesperson for Legal Aid in North West, Thotoane Shale, confirmed the sentence.

Comments
  • debduplessis - 2012-11-13 16:48

    1.5 years per child... gosh is that all our children are worth in this country --- thats just plain SICK!

      leroy.reynolds.353 - 2012-11-13 16:54

      and just to correct the math, its 2.4 if she serves 12 years total.

      siann.heidgen - 2012-11-13 16:57

      Agree debduplessis, the value of human life is a joke!!! 5 children dead and she will prob be release in 5 years on "good behavior"

      John - 2012-11-13 17:00

      Hi deb the article says 12 years for each murder to run concurrently

      debduplessis - 2012-11-13 17:05

      thanks Leroy.. calc was discounted for good prison behavior

      debduplessis - 2012-11-13 17:07

      not in the subject line John ;)

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-11-13 17:15

      John, if they say 12 years for each child then the sentences to run concurrently. It means the effective sentence is a total of 12 years. I understand the criticism of the sentence but section 105 of the plea bargain influenced the judge to give a lenient sentence because she pleaded guilty instead of the case proven on a lengthy trial.

      moira.fox.7 - 2012-11-13 17:23

      It's actually 2.4 years per child - but anyhow - still a damn disgrace!! She is young enough that if she is released early she can simply go ahead and have even more children!! Concurrently nogal!!

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-11-13 17:47

      Hey, I'm all for saving the Rhino, but 40 years was handed down last week to a syndicate boss, and now a five time murderer of human children only has to sit 12 years - something is screwed up in our value system!

      vambozha.mutemi.9 - 2012-11-13 18:33

      a mockery of the judicial system...5 children its actually domestic "genocide" and life sentence still was gonna be not enough!

      hendrik.verwoerd.94 - 2012-11-13 18:41

      Leonard B please do not bring the ANC into this. The Constitutional Court decided that the death penalty is not constitutional. If you want the death penalty back I think two thirds of parliament must support this to change the constitution. The problem is that if the death penalty is brought back then the Government can use it again in matters like treason and there would be conflict again. I do not think any party will back the death penalty, not even the DA.

      hendrik.verwoerd.94 - 2012-11-13 18:43

      It was not the judge's call. The prosecutor and defence agreed to the sentence. Maybe there were flaws in the evidence and that is why the state agreed to the lighter sentence. We do not have all the facts.

      susanna.smit.7 - 2012-11-14 07:09

      If only she had condoms and a partner who didn't mind using them.....

  • mitch.dhooghe - 2012-11-13 16:57

    How does this justice system work? Wtf! Take 5 lives and get 12 yrs, probably be out in 6 yrs! People get up to 8 yrs for tax evasion! Sickening!

      theve.teves - 2012-11-13 17:30

      If you read properly you'll see its 12 years for each kid she killed

      mitch.dhooghe - 2012-11-13 17:38

      Noted, thanks....misleading article and headline. Still Deserves more though!

      arthur.hugh - 2012-11-13 17:39

      First paragraph is misleading - so is the title of the story. It should read 60 years (12 for each child).

      nick.tarr.39 - 2012-11-13 17:54

      ...Concurrently. Which measn all 5x 12 years are run at the same time. meaning she only serves 12 years in total.

      vambozha.mutemi.9 - 2012-11-13 18:38

      maybe for each item a prisoner gets she also gets it 5 times!

  • sajeeda.ebrahim - 2012-11-13 16:59

    12 years. Are u kidding me? What is wrong with the justice system in this country. There is no incentive for people to stop their violent behaviour. And the lawmakers sit back and ask why there is crime.

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-11-13 17:01

    Shockingly light!!

  • sicelo.brukwe.9 - 2012-11-13 17:02

    This is another heart sore story of a single mother, very painful indeed but one's got to pay for the sins!

      asdhasgd - 2012-11-13 17:13

      Bro if someone killed your kid (godforbid) and he only got 2 years i think your reaction would be MUCH MUCH more different.

  • omrisho.za - 2012-11-13 17:03

    High Court Judge Ronald Hendricks - just hope none of your children, grandchildren never need to be represented by this joke of a "justice system"

  • nayfisher - 2012-11-13 17:03

    Absolutely shocking. 12 years for taking the lives of the innocent.

  • gordon.sims.180 - 2012-11-13 17:05

    and AGAIN NEWS24 stuff's it up ...... did she GET 12 years or did she get 12 years for EACH MURDER ????????????? Dont know why i bother reading this site anymore ...... PATHETIC !!!!!!

      omrisho.za - 2012-11-13 17:11

      North West High Court Judge Ronald Hendricks sentenced Venolia Siwa, 35, to 12 years' imprisonment on each of the murders, which would run concurrently. there is your answer, you didn't read then did you gordon??

      thomas.zahradnik - 2012-11-13 17:12

      The article says, "12 years' imprisonment on each of the murders, which would run concurrently." EACH murder - sentences to be served concurrently (At the same time)

      sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-13 17:16

      12 yrs running concurently. do the math.

      thomas.zahradnik - 2012-11-13 17:27

      @brad.ken.18 - She got 12 years for each murder, however since the sentences are served concurrently, her effective stay in prison will only be 12 years as she is serving them ALL at the same time. If she was serving the sentences CONSECUTIVELY (1 after each other) then she would be serving 60 years.(5 x 12 years)

      sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-13 17:29

      @ brad.ken. its the same difference.

      moira.fox.7 - 2012-11-13 17:30

      Eish - if you don't understand a word - use a dictionary - con"current"ly sort of speaks for itself .....

      seanrossouwslr - 2012-11-13 17:31

      5 sentences of 12 years concurrently. How long is the total sentence? 12 years. I see no problem with the language use.

      gordon.sims.180 - 2012-11-14 12:35

      Apologies all - YOU are correct - Thank you :-)

  • bart.mitchell.393 - 2012-11-13 17:09

    40 years for poaching Rhino and 12 years for killing 5 of your offspring...huh ?

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-11-13 18:19

      Yip save the rhino but it's open season on our children. Sounds like our justice system is also going to the dogs together with the rest of all the state sponsored entities. Thanks to the ANC

  • Celeste Berg - 2012-11-13 17:11

    how does our justice system works???????? this morning - read on news 24 about a mother in mitchells plain that killed her son and she got 20 years!!!!!! this mother killed 5 of her kids and gets 12years now with tears in my eyes please explain that to me?????!!!!! CONFUSED!!!!!!! DISGUSTING hope they both rot in hell

  • maggie.hlongwane - 2012-11-13 17:12

    what was the judge thinking???? 12 years is for petty crimes not for murderers..fire this judge pls

  • Happyness - 2012-11-13 17:13

    Another sensationalist title. It's not 12 for all of them, it's 12 years per child, \ years' imprisonment\r\non each of the murders, which\r\nwould run concurrently.\ News24 you are reporting on the murder of five children, please have some taste!!!

      rui.d.barros.7 - 2012-11-13 17:18

      Which means they run at the same time ie 12years for 5 murder and rhino killer gets 40

      rui.d.barros.7 - 2012-11-13 17:22

      Which means they run at the same time ie 12years for 5 murder and rhino killer gets 40

  • mojalefa.malepa - 2012-11-13 17:14

    Whaaat? 12years for killing 5 innocent children? They should have given her a rope to hang herself. She was never a mother but a monster, a wild hungry animal. Damn!

  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-11-13 17:18

    She should have got life without parole at least! As our wonderful government will not bring back the death penalty,that would be the next best thing. 12 years per child is laughable. Life is cheap in S.A.

  • nero.moodley.7 - 2012-11-13 17:18

    Story is not well written..Can be 60yr imprisonment..ie 12 for each child...she needs to be \put away\.

      thomas.zahradnik - 2012-11-13 17:43

      No ... its only 60 years in the sentences are served CONSECUTIVELY ie 1 sentence served AFTER the other is served. She was sentenced to serve her sentences CONCURRENTLY ie All 5 sentences of 12 years are served at the SAME time. The nature of the sentences is either CONCURRENT or CONSECUTIVELY not both and her sentences are CONCURRENT - So shes out in 12 at the worst.

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-13 17:19

    When confessing did she explain the reason why ? This is beyond inhumane.

  • ndou.fhatu - 2012-11-13 17:23

    this is abnormally minded mom .my question is what where she thinking????horror in S.A

      Asanda - 2012-11-13 18:11

      ama say the'z no justice in sa . dis woman iz sick!!

  • martin.pearce.3762 - 2012-11-13 17:26

    A sad day for justice in SA-She should plead and illness and go caddy for Sheik

  • John Badenhorst - 2012-11-13 17:27

    12 years for EACH child....BUT why should it run concurrently????? WTF??? with good behavior, she is out in 8 for killing 5 innocent kids...utter load of BS!!!!

  • carole.small.96 - 2012-11-13 17:28

    The report is correctly stated. She got 12 years for each murder and they run concurrently which means each sentence is served together so she effectively only serves 12 years in total. The sentence is disgusting not the reporting.

  • hilda.macarthur - 2012-11-13 17:28

    I just give up. There is just no justice in this country. You kill 5 innocent children and you're locked up for a little more than a decade?! That is killing, not theft, not fraud, but you've snuffed the life out of another person. No wonder lives in SA are worth a cell phone, a laptop, or a car.

      Onke Mdingi - 2012-11-13 17:46

      The workings of the justice system are strange... One Cape Town mother has been jailed for 20 years for murdering her son, now this one gets 12 for murdering 5. It doesn't add up is it?

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-11-13 18:12

      The difference is that one was found guilty in a trial for the charge she was denying and it was proven though evidence, while the other admitted everything and her sentence was passed in terms of section 105A of the Criminal Procedure Act which is a plea bargain. One guy in the court I am working at got 8 years for murder with 3 years suspended. Because of this section. You can imagine how upset was the family of the deceased.

  • sphala - 2012-11-13 17:30

    But why, why...shed your own blood, oh please

  • ceba.mlandu - 2012-11-13 17:36

    Is that it? Wow

  • nicky.saaiman.1 - 2012-11-13 17:45

    We must all strike till the death penalty is reinstated.....

  • Jay Mondlana - 2012-11-13 17:49

    What is the job of her lawyer( whoever represented her) in this case? Some people deserve to go straight to jail, no court wast of time for this(12yrs)...

  • Ayanda - 2012-11-13 17:51

    Shocking indeed. I hope those guy who killed the british tourist will get 12yrs too

  • edmund.deane.37 - 2012-11-13 17:52

    correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that 12 for each child run concurrently making that 60years? Sounds far better than 12

      Gatvol Griet - 2012-11-13 17:55

      concurrently means at the same time. Consecutive would be 60 yrs

      edmund.deane.37 - 2012-11-13 17:58

      OK I'm a dolt apologies it means that all her time for each child is run together making it 60years squished into twelve?? That type of sentence doesn't make sense making it 2 and a bit years for each child?? WTF

  • Gatvol Griet - 2012-11-13 17:52

    WTF? That's nothing!! DESPICABLE!

  • Ntutu Dlova - 2012-11-13 17:59

    Judge Ronald Hendrieks, WTF?

  • mammone.tau.5 - 2012-11-13 18:02

    The thought that this woman just delivered another baby while still in trial, makes me want to throw up. What an animal!!!

  • duduzile.nkosi - 2012-11-13 18:07

    Its 12 years for each child making it 60years. The person who wrote this is misleading

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-11-13 18:18

      No, Duduzile, it's not misleading. When the sentence is pronounced to be going to run concurrently, it means an effective sentence is 12 years all in all.

  • werner.vandeventer - 2012-11-13 18:10

    12 years for killing five of her own children? Unbelievable

  • Kevin Hall - 2012-11-13 18:13

    bloody pathetic!!disgraceful!! I would never harm a hair on my young son's head, no matter how depressed i was! A parent who harms or kills their child deserves to ROT in jail FOREVER!!! surely something in the back of her mind told her it was wrong!?!.Hell has a special place for her!!

  • thabo.shabalala.94 - 2012-11-13 18:13

    Joke !! What happened to "LIFE SENTENCE" hopefully then she would have done 21 years. We will see her out and about next year this time.

  • paul.moulang - 2012-11-13 18:38

    Probably a case of " ... easy come, easy go ..." - but there were viable lives, feelings and desires! should have been 5 x LIFE = concurrently w/o parole despite 'confessions'. Totally disgusting. RIP.

  • thabelorale - 2012-11-13 18:45

    South Africa is a sick country !!

  • musaasaph.mashila - 2012-11-13 18:49

    Dictionary: Concurrent; occurring or existing simultaneously or side by side. Hope tht helps.

  • robert.warriner - 2012-11-13 18:49

    How does 12 years suit this crime? She should be removed from the planet!

      dudu.son.1 - 2012-11-13 19:59

      Why did not she used contraceptives ? What happened to the grants and men that made her pregnant. Twelve years is nothing if she is not fit for a mental institution. She deserves life sentnce if not death penalty.

  • frankylouw - 2012-11-13 18:51

    Pathetic article. Surely she gave the court a reason for doing this... ? Why is this not explained?

  • refiloe.shikwambana - 2012-11-13 18:52

    Confused

  • thulani.ndlovu.3572 - 2012-11-13 19:16

    Surely the crime befits a heavier sentence,life sentence actually.the court that handed the sentence to the mother and kids,everything about this story is sad.

      James - 2012-11-13 19:46

      I believe that if it was a man who committed such an offence,more hashier sentence should have been imposed to him.But otherwise I'm happy she is punished at last.

  • IcemanGP - 2012-11-13 19:19

    Wonder if she was collecting grants on these kids? Then wiped them out to use the money for herself.

  • Johann Henn - 2012-11-13 19:29

    Wow, N24 must have got their geography wrong... I'm sure Pampierstad is in the Western Cape?! Surely it must be! ALL the crime in the WHOLE country happens there, and only there... Remember?

  • teresa.naicker - 2012-11-13 20:22

    Shoot the freaking b****, really!!!!

  • jan.ramoshaba.5 - 2012-11-13 20:29

    I was so shaking to hear about this murder,what happened to our society I must get myself a security company look after because I don't know I will be killed too the sentense must go to 988 12 it makes rot in hell

  • mmoledis - 2012-11-13 20:48

    There is nothing that she needs but death or life sentence, how on earth can one take the life of her child? it seems as if that person is a devil and need to be behind bars for life for finishing the life of an inocent.

  • Nana Zulu - 2012-11-13 21:36

    This cruel monster mst burn to hell

  • dawn.kilian - 2012-11-13 22:08

    I think she should be sentenced for LIFE !!! If poachers get 40 for killing our precious animals !

  • Marc Taliadoros - 2012-11-14 03:55

    that is absolutely rediculous!!! life at the very least!!!

  • Odwa DjSbu Mdzeke - 2012-11-14 04:42

    this woman was supposed to be let free and let the people stone her and burn hell alive just to give her an introductory of hell where she will burn to eternity