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Mom told rape in prison 'commonplace'

2012-12-12 09:09

Durban - A “normal” 16-year-old teen became violent and unmanageable after he was raped in prison four years ago following an arrest for shoplifting that saw him thrown into a cell with hardened criminals.

“He is violent, he runs around naked and has been in and out of hospital,” his crying mother testified during a R1.5m civil case against the State, The Mercury reported.

The teen suffered a mental breakdown, left school and needed psychiatric care, she claimed.

She said the Centre for Child Law told her his changed behaviour, which included attacking her with a bottle, was a result of the rape.

The teen had stolen a pair of R49.99 shorts from Woolworths.

“He did not need to be detained… He was not a threat to society,” advocate Peter Rowan said.

The mother testified that when she was told about her son’s rape in prison, she informed court staff and was told “that this is allowed in prison… it is commonplace”.

A Durban doctor who examined the teen after the incident in jail said his injuries were consistent with genital penetration and said it was the most likely cause of the injuries, but under cross-examination said this could have been caused by blunt force trauma.

The Centre for Child Law hopes the case will highlight the plight of children detained after being accused of petty crimes.

Comments
  • frederick.nel - 2012-12-12 09:26

    WTF! Throw a 12 year old in prison and rape him. Really??? *@#$in stupid country this and just for shop lifting!

      andynct - 2012-12-12 09:59

      He was 16 when he was put in jail and raped. IOL states that more clearly. http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/state-denies-teen-was-raped-in-prison-1.1438908

      frederick.nel - 2012-12-12 10:47

      Ah thank you for that. My understanding from this artical he is 16 and was in prison 4 years ago. Regardless this this is messed up. Thanks for the link.

      richard.zanner - 2012-12-12 15:54

      I also read it that he was in jail at 12. Bad reporting. Still this should not happen to anybody in jail, except the sex offenders off course. They should have regular intercourse.

      geoff.liddiard - 2012-12-12 15:54

      Yeah another reason not to shop at Woolies

      briana.scott - 2012-12-13 10:16

      Oh thank goodness that he was 16. Because now the thought of a 16 year old being raped is completely rational and acceptable. WTF is wrong with you people. What difference does it make whether he was 16 and not 12!

      Emma Clark - 2013-06-04 20:19

      Agreed @#$ messed up country that throws boys in jail to be gangraped and damaged for life but lets proven killers like Pistorius roam free on bail

      Ahava Shapiro - 2013-06-04 20:28

      @Emma, 100% with you, we'll said.

  • adrian.tyler - 2012-12-12 09:27

    Uhm... This is something we all know already.

  • davy.botha - 2012-12-12 09:29

    Itis this mentality that exist in most government institution that says that it is what it is instead of trying to develop new ways of doing things. Prison rapes is common yes but then the correctional departments should look at examples in the world or try to develop new system that limit or eliminate this!

  • Erna - 2012-12-12 09:30

    While stealing cannot be condoned, punishment should fit the crime. There is certainly an alternative punishment for a 16 year old stealing a item of R50.

      Xolieh - 2012-12-13 15:33

      i agree with u how do u put a 16yrs old withgrown criminals what do u expert?!

      mabandla.dlamini.3 - 2012-12-13 17:19

      Don't know. Ask an 'expert'.

  • ulandi.potgieter - 2012-12-12 09:38

    The child should of been in his parents watch instead of been put in jail for a stupid per of shorts for R49.99 the judge could of just fined the boy but no he didn't do that there are other crimes that need to be seen to and they worry about a R49.99 per of shorts how dumb is the judge what if it was the judge's son that did it would he also got the same punishment?.

      irma.white.9 - 2012-12-12 09:45

      Agreed- how many 17 year old rapists are "released into the care of his parents" while a little 12 year old is chucked in jail. This country has it's priorities ALL WRONG.

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-12-12 19:57

      who is 12?

      karel.vanrensburg.56 - 2012-12-12 21:46

      It is ironic how severe the punishment for R50 theft is while some people manage to steal R240 million from us taxpayers and get away with it!

  • noreenhanora.hughes - 2012-12-12 09:39

    Woolworths should be proud of themselves ,surly they could have arranged for the child to get counciling or community service rather then jail.this is the company that received a award for charity.shame on you and shame on the department of justice for allowing this to happen.with all the murders and rapes left unsolved and punished

      amused.reader.7 - 2012-12-12 11:08

      What has it got to do with woolworths ?? If someone steals there property then they are entirely right to call the police. This situation is shameful, but allocate blame where it belongs. The prison service, and the government to whom they are accountable are the ones at fault. If you follow your line of thinking where do you stop, at R100, R1000, R10 000 ??

  • djim.bie - 2012-12-12 09:39

    The law does not cater for underage criminals. Often these children are used to commit the crime only to get of scot free. They get caught on house robbery just to be freed the following day because they are teenagers! Let the prisoners do the states job and let them send the right message.

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-12-12 16:27

      This is ridiculous - you think the state's job is to rape teenagers?

  • irma.white.9 - 2012-12-12 09:44

    How can you justify sending a 12 year old into a cell with hardened criminals for a simple pair of shorts? Punish the boy, yes. Scare him and call the cops, yes. But to actually jail him, allow him to be raped??! Good for sueing. At 12 years old you know what is right and wrong, but really, to be so severely punished is horrible.

      andynct - 2012-12-12 10:01

      He was 16 when he was put in jail and allegedly raped. IOL states that more clearly. http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/state-denies-teen-was-raped-in-prison-1.1438908

      irma.white.9 - 2012-12-12 18:05

      Thanks, trust News24 to give the wrong info.

  • nerinek - 2012-12-12 09:52

    only in south africa do they put a 12 year old in jail with these things and let a police officer that raped a women out on bail... this country is passed messed up... and no amount of money will ever make right what our pathetic justice system has done wrong...

      andynct - 2012-12-12 10:04

      He was 16 years old. The original article states that clearly.

      gert.vdmerwe.1 - 2012-12-12 11:29

      Andynct who gives a rat's ass if the boy was 12 or 16......You are a pedantic moron repeating yourself like that. Comment on the issues or shut your face.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      andynct - 2012-12-12 15:05

      @gert.vdmerwe.1 Keep your knickers on. He was 16 years old, defied his mother and refused to turn up for his court case and that's why he was arrested. He should not have been detained with adult prisoners. Presumably the state will be censured for that. http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/state-denies-teen-was-raped-in-prison-1.1438908

  • truthis.tway - 2012-12-12 09:54

    Where are all the "Papa wag vir jou" smart arses now?

      sarah.bouttell - 2012-12-12 10:19

      Agreed. I find it rather terrifying that all too often, that commentors on this site seem to be agreeable to the worst criminals in the prison system being allowed to mete out "punishment" such as rape and murder as a way of achieving "justice". The concept is revolting. I don't want the freaks and murderers in our society applying *their* brand of "justice", I want our justice system to be revised and the law applied correctly and equally to all.

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-12-12 16:29

      Well said Sarah

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2012-12-13 10:02

      That is reserved for murdering, raping scumbag adults. Clearly the punishment did not fit the crime. A young life left destroyed over a R50 shirt. What a shame

      truthis.tway - 2012-12-21 11:58

      Yeah, you see Kortbroek, when they rape you in prison they don't first check what you are there for.

  • gareth.p.randall - 2012-12-12 09:55

    Absolutely Shameful. A murderer gets bail without seeing the inside of a jail cell. A teen gets jailed for 50 bucks. Just shows you how F*** up our system is. Blame the idiots at the top for that. R1.5m is not enough. Add a few zero's for that. Show the corrupt idiots that it hurts them too when something like this happens. NO BONUS for you retards.

  • ruben.maistry - 2012-12-12 09:59

    Our justice system has failed us.

      sarah.bouttell - 2012-12-12 10:19

      *again*

  • matthews.magodiela - 2012-12-12 10:00

    The incident is very unfortunate and the prison services is doing its best to prevent these incidents from taking place in our jails. Unfortunately things like these do happen behind without the knowledge of the prison authorities because sometimes it happens during the night behind locked cells. The prison service receive offenders from the court and they are not responsible for sending people to jail. The child stole a pair without the knowledge of the mother which also indicates that the possibility of that incident to take place without the knowledge of prison authorities is also possible. Stealing starts small and develops to heists and murder. Stats show that children are commiting serious brutal crimes than adults.

      vimla.naidoo.52 - 2012-12-12 10:13

      Did you ever go to jail poeper

      sarah.bouttell - 2012-12-12 10:22

      He was 16. Why was he treated as an adult? Why is there no parallel legal system for children and minor crime? Why was he placed in a cell with serious criminals? Surely, at some point, some one should have said - NO, and at the very least handcuffed him to a desk in an office, rather than placing him in harms way?

      foc.us.10004 - 2012-12-12 10:25

      Matthews I appreciate your comments but this I suspect was not a convicted case it was an 'awaiting trial' case in a holding cell which is normally IN a policestation where there are not 1000's of prisoners so the police 'should' know whats going on. I blame the police plain and square THEY should have released him in parents custody seeing that he was under aged and NOT put him in a cell with adult criminals!! Shame on you Ntetwa ... sue his backside off!!

      phaldiemeyer - 2012-12-12 12:35

      com'n matthews you're either naive or a moron...it is the correctional services duty to look make sure you're not harmed while in their custody...to plead ignorance is simply not acceptable. heaven forbid you land up there and the same happen to you - don't say it will never happen...prison is made for all of us - rich, poor, black, white, righteous and the holier than thou types!!

  • thelma.pottek - 2012-12-12 10:06

    R1.5 mil sivil case...to be honest, no amount of money will "fix" this boy! He is scared for live and it is a shame. No child of 12 should ever be disposed to harden criminals, regardless the crime! Yes crime is a crime but I do agree, Woolies should have concider some other steps!

      andynct - 2012-12-12 10:14

      He was 16 years old!

      pieter.pohl.3 - 2012-12-12 10:19

      12! He is 16 now, but it happened 4 years ago.

      sarah.bouttell - 2012-12-12 10:23

      Woolworths could never have considered that the justice system would fail this child so badly. It is unfair, to make them responsible for the government's failure to repair the justice system.

      andynct - 2012-12-12 10:33

      @pieter.pohl.3 Wrong - he was 16 when he was arrested. The original story that this story lifted from says that more clearly. That means he is 20 now. People reading this have zero comprehension skills.

      frederick.nel - 2012-12-12 10:54

      No andy the person who shortened this artical made it sound like he was 12 and has no comprehension skills.

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2012-12-13 10:04

      @thelma our incompetent state criminal justice system should of considered other steps. Hope Johan Kotze would be picking up a lot of soap bars though

  • jodi.kruger - 2012-12-12 10:26

    Good motivation to NOT go to prison then.

      truthis.tway - 2012-12-12 10:40

      God forbid you end up in a cell and get raped. You are sick.

  • Thato Mojaje - 2012-12-12 10:35

    mxm, the government we have... nxa that judge deserves a bullet on his or her forehead, not with my child shame!!!

  • treveshan - 2012-12-12 11:28

    Uhmm... Isn't the bigger picture here the fact that rape is "allowed and seen as common place in prison". What kind of society do we live in where we "allow" rape. In fact with all those "papa wag vir jou" ads, what kind of message are we sending? That rape is ok depending on the circumstances? Faith in humanity lost.

  • gladness - 2012-12-12 11:46

    Name the stupid person who said rape in prison is commonplace

      annette.duvenhage.1 - 2012-12-13 16:57

      Gladness, that person is dead...propably one of the ones that takes bribes from the prisoners for fresh supply....

  • mnmwale - 2012-12-12 12:05

    The punishment of detention was too harsh for the teen, worse still if the detention was in an institution with adult criminals. And even more worse if the adult criminals were no petty criminals. The government must accept its responsibility in the gross violation of the teen's rights as a minor and pay up. After all we all stole when we were teenagers growing up in the townships. And we all have outgrown it as we matured

  • teresa.villarini - 2012-12-12 12:29

    4 years ago this kid was 12? Wtf how do they put him in prison with adults ? I think its disgraceful! There are no words strong enough ! I'm gobsmacked !

  • annie.israel.50 - 2012-12-12 13:16

    That is very sad and appauling that they put him amongst hardened criminals plus theft for 50R is hardly being classed as a criminal??? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, OH YES, LIKE THE POLITICIANS

  • june.francis.526 - 2012-12-12 13:53

    This was a stupid prank by a stupid teenager, he didnt deserve to be put in jail with hardened criminals. Someones head should role for this. The issue is that rape in jail should not be accepted as a norm in our prisons. The dept of correctional services should be working towards making our jails a proper rehabilitation centre for criminals.

  • sandra.l.calverley - 2012-12-12 14:31

    Shame on the people who commented that this was allowed in prison. This is all part and parcel of women and children having no standing the in the South African community. They are fair game for all the male perverts out there. When will this ever stop, not likely ever.

  • michelle.marshall.3158652 - 2012-12-12 15:42

    how can a 16yr old be put in prison with grown men - wtf - anyone else see a problem with that??

  • hugo.lategan - 2012-12-12 16:51

    So very sad! Wake up government!

  • mart.botha - 2012-12-12 17:02

    The rapists are allowed to continue with their violent tendencies even after being incarcerated. More reason why society should insist that we get rid of them permanently. There is an over abundance of poor innocent people who we could rather spend the money on. They chose not to rape, murder and pillage. This is all quite logical until you lose the definitions of innocent and guilty and it becomes a grey are under the umbrella called 'human rights'.

  • ceba.mlandu - 2012-12-12 18:03

    I think the judge should get raped

  • rowan.clark.10 - 2012-12-12 19:43

    Youth used to get canned and that was in place of prison maybe they should bring back that as an option if they really want to tow the line!!

      marjorie.smith.92 - 2012-12-12 20:27

      I have to agree with you there 100%.

  • mpho.gift.1804 - 2012-12-12 20:27

    Correctional services, I don't remember you winning any case before court. Sbu Ndebele: Notes for You:(1)Rape

  • cialb - 2012-12-12 21:54

    He broke the law, this is what happens in our prisons. We know the consequences. Not a threat to society? He was undermining the rule of law, that is a theat to society. The moral of the story is, keep your nose clean, keep out of prison. It is sad, but it comes with the territory.

  • Modikoe.Elias.Ramongana - 2012-12-13 04:15

    (1)Thou shall not steal: (2)Spare the rod

  • boipelo.tlhong - 2012-12-13 05:30

    was da judge mentally well wen he/she sent a 16yr old 2 prison for 50rand?

  • tednhet - 2012-12-13 07:50

    You do the crime, you do the time

      BubblesdoubleO7 - 2012-12-13 09:30

      So you're saying that what happened to him is justified? I am sorry, but this boy should have never been locked up in the first place. For R50 he should have been reprimanded by the police and released into his parents custody and let them sort him out. What life does he have now? He is forever scarred and if anything, is more damaged now than before.

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-12-13 13:12

      Tednhet, to the accomplices of this abuse on this boy too,A single mighty blast,and behole,like ashes,quenched and silent!

  • marius.fourie.526 - 2012-12-13 07:57

    Why can't News 24 get a statement from the Judge?? Let him/her explain the judgment.

  • allan.rosenberg.752 - 2012-12-13 09:18

    Mom, don't you know that SA men rape anything that moves so why should it not be common practice in our jails. Unfortunately that's the way our leaders and law makers think

  • therealdries - 2012-12-13 09:30

    Shuddering. Steal R50, and your reward is to be used as a receptacle by the worst of SA society. Steal a few million, and you get to be president of the country. George Orwell couldn't think this stuff up. If I was that kid, R1.5m wouldn't even begin to make up for it. There would be death. A lot of death.

  • rianasemail - 2012-12-13 11:04

    hey all you sick f@$!@s, who “likes” such horrible things which still happened (regardless of age), this individual will in all probability be institutionalised and the keys thrown away??? God knows what will happen there?? WTF?

  • nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-12-13 11:10

    A few years ago a good hiding with a cane at the police station would have done the trick. Now look where this small thing has lead to.

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-12-13 12:06

    I hope woolworths are 49 richer!I can promise if this hardernd criminal was in some countries i know,it would have been a single mighty blast,and behold,he wud have been ashes,quenched and silent!

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-12-13 12:27

      Woolworths,sis on you.i hope u have some sense to assist this boy and his family,for destroying their lives for a measly R49!

      Kwanele Mzwanele Masoka - 2012-12-13 17:01

      @fort; woolies did nothing wrong,they merely did what every peace loving South African would do by reporting the crime.

  • Kwanele Mzwanele Masoka - 2012-12-13 16:50

    First of all we need to bring back the death sentence to get rid of hardened criminals then we can start to talk about rehabilitating. As for this kid he got what he deserves because even the hardened criminals started small then gradually they gradueted. Its not like he was forced to steal,he chose to do so hence let him face the music.

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-12-13 18:48

      Kwanele,if this boy was your son,would you still say he got what he deserved .Despicable for anyone to even think that a child should ever deserve this for any reason!A single mighty blast!

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-12-13 19:04

      Kwanele i use to share my knowledge of Gods Warnings from the Quran with people here,but i was accused of shoving my religion down peoples throats,when i was merely sharing infomation with my fellow people,so i dont anymore.But il share 1 on this occasion:everyday the Earth pleads to God to swallow mankind up due to their dissobedience and arrogance to God.But God commands the Earth not to, because there are children on the Earth.

      Kwanele Mzwanele Masoka - 2012-12-13 23:28

      The fact that God decided to spare our lives for the sake of children could be directly linked to their honesty,innocency and most probable their inability to tell right from wrong: but we got a kid who stole fully knowing the consequances hence he can not be put in the same bracket with honest kids. To answer yo question yes. I'll never defend my son if he does something wrong let him face the results so he can become a better man tomorrow.

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-12-14 00:29

      Kwanele it was a R49 piece of cotton,that probably cost R10.So u tink this boys life and sanity being lost thru the punishment was a good lesson to be learnt?I pray that u dont teach your children any lessons,please.God does not condemn children because of what desperation may force them to do.God is not a monster like some of us,but what happened to this boy can bring out the Monster in God too.God says that if He had to teach humans a lesson for the wrong they commit,no human would be on the planet.Read your Bibel .Genesis 6:5,6

      german.mazokera - 2012-12-14 03:32

      Kwanele you are right,for no man can pull the end of a stick without pulling the other end you cant drag the snake with its tail without dragging the other end. This is a lesson to us parents and the kids as well that we save the stick and spoil the kids, the kids think that the government (gvt) protect them from their parents but what they didnt know is, it is the same gvt that allows them to get raped in jail and does nothing about it or the gvt shields the parents from controling their kids so that the gvt can fed the kids to the prisons. To those of you who claim it as a petty crime let me remind you that no child was born a criminal but over protecting our kids and spoiling them will manifestation to criminal mind hence we are grooming a bad kid who will start by stealing sugar at home other kid's sweets small monies at homeg, if not stopped, with age the bigger the person the bigger the crime

      Kwanele Mzwanele Masoka - 2012-12-14 07:06

      I am not so sure whether the kid is 16 now or he was sixteen when he comitted the crime 4years back..but if the former applies then surely they shouldn't have detained a then 12year old minor!!!!

  • Donkervlie - 2012-12-13 17:40

    To allow this to happen to a child gives you an Idea what a filthy uncaring goup of people we have to share this country with. What makes it worse is that the Minister of correctional service and the Minister of Justice knows it is happening but it is not bothering them because after all it is normal. These two ministers need to be charged with neglect and sent to prison. The police and prison service personell allow it to happen because the society they come out of approves it.

  • Wonky Donky - 2013-06-03 10:45

    They should inforce corporal punnishment again in SA. 10 good wackings on the backside with a nice pipe should help him remember to pay for his goods when leaving a shop next time.

  • Wonky Donky - 2013-06-03 10:47

    Corporal punishment should be brought back!!!! 10 good lashings on the backside should help him remember to pay for his goods when leaving the next store next time. This may sound wierd, probably is ... but ... why dont they tatoo something on you when you are dangerous for instance, like a big ass tatoo on your forhead if you are a rapist so people know to stay the hell away from them!!!

  • Daniel Modisane - 2013-06-03 12:06

    Stouterkabouter The judge wollies and police God is not stupid what goes around comes around one day it will be one of your families and let it also be a commonplace.

  • Matthew Jones - 2013-06-04 09:20

    So Rape is actually Okay now,but just as long as it stays in the prisons. The cr@p they get away with saying,blows my mind!

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