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Motlanthe's holiday 'above board'

2013-02-10 14:42

Johannesburg - Thabo Masebe on Sunday said he did not know "why there should be any controversy" surrounding Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe's holiday to the Seychelles.

This followed a call by the Democratic Alliance for the public protector to investigate the alleged use of public funds to pay part of Motlanthe's holiday.

"The deputy president - once he becomes deputy president - his security is the responsibility of the state," Masebe, who is Motlanthe's spokesman, said.

"That is why all travels, whether private or official, are the responsibility of the state."

The state was responsible for Motlanthe's security. It determines how he would be transported.

"For the holiday he (Motlanthe) paid for his own holiday, the state didn't pay, the state only pays for transport," Masebe said.

According to City Press, Motlanthe was flown to the Seychelles by the SA Air Force three days after he lost to President Jacob Zuma in the battle for the African National Congress' top job at its Mangaung conference.

Motlanthe, his partner and at least five bodyguards checked into the luxury Desroches Island Resort.

The newspaper said it had various documents that outline the holiday expenses, including accommodation and transport costs.

The documents apparently show that a local charter plane was contracted to transport Motlanthe and his entourage after an Air Force Falcon 900 could not land on Desroches Island due to the "unsuitability of the runway".

The newspaper reported that the cost of the charter plane was covered by the state.

It also reported that the party booked three villas and a retreat for 12 nights at a cost of more than R2m.

DA MP David Maynier said he was writing to Public Protector Thuli Madonsela in order to ask her to investigate whether there was a breach of any policy, law or regulation in the payments for Motlanthe's holiday

"[I will be] submitting a request, in terms of the Promotion of Access to Information Act (No. 2 of 200), for a copy of the secret 'Presidential Handbook'."

Maynier suggested this handbook would assist in determining what costs of the holiday could be paid for with state funds.

Comments
  • Vishen - 2013-02-10 14:49

    And the circus continues!!!

      darren.raath.5 - 2013-02-10 16:51

      yawn.... another corrupt official in government......

      kimster - 2013-02-10 19:16

      you are a joke mcweavon its oppositions job to see that there are no illegal activities in other parties and vice versa every country in the world has their left-wingers, right-wingers and and and extremists i take my hat off at obama - do you think he is using security and at what price? and do you think he is riding apartheid and the state coffers?

      elgh.elgh - 2013-02-10 20:16

      Ask him where he gets 2m to pay for a 12 day holiday. Don't care what your stupid little book says, it is waist full spending of public money. We do not pay taxes so that government can use the money to transport them to their holiday destinations.

      Mbongeni Masilela - 2013-02-11 00:05

      Leave president Motlanthe alone!

      gerald.nchabeleng - 2013-02-11 07:52

      it is the modus operandi everywhere in the world that a current sitting head of state, his vice, and all living ex heads of state receive protection from the secret service. Part of this security detail includes but not limited to providing logistics for travel, providing secure transportation and accommodation, in transit and destination and also providing bodyguards. Finally, the ANC critics are finally as illogical or mindless as the ANC sheep. A newspaper reports that R2million was spent, and strongly suggests it all comes from the state. Logic dictates that assuming this is the total bill then surely some funds will come from the state in the form of transportion and the upkeep of the bodyguards. Perhaps one should wait for a full audit of this trip before assumptions and rhetoric are uttered. Let us also bear in mind that to date, De Klerk, Mandela and Mbeki still get travel and protection sponsorship from state

      charlesbronson.bronson - 2013-02-11 13:08

      ANC, you are just corrupted thief's!!!

      derek.francois.3 - 2013-02-11 16:56

      The corrupt ANC thieves travel like the "nuevo riche" russian mafia.........................I suppose they need all the body guards as the poor will eventually want to lynch them................which is the only realistic threat........

  • tlotlo.phele - 2013-02-10 14:54

    Yawn

      mantsho.tlali - 2013-02-10 15:43

      What do you think of 2million holiday and 5 Bodyguards for no reason, while majority of Blacks live in terrible poverty?

  • jerry.medina.756 - 2013-02-10 15:21

    This guy have no Maniere. DA is getting a bit too much, this is the deputy President and his security is vital to the country.

      arthur.salvado - 2013-02-10 15:47

      Totally irrelevant. His face or name won't be known in the Seychelles . Who is he kidding ? Ask our school children without books who he is. You might just be surprised at the blank looks

      Seanred - 2013-02-10 16:27

      Why? what does he do?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-11 11:25

      Jerry.medina756. His security is vital for the country?. Man he is from South Africa not the blinking United States of America.

  • roland.gemmell - 2013-02-10 15:23

    David Maynier - if you are in parliament - why do you need to request the document? Surely you have a copy - just publish the damn thing!!! Are you not familiar with what is in this document that you need to get another department to investigate if all in order?

  • bradleybrits - 2013-02-10 15:28

    I just find it hard to understand how in a country that is "too poor" to supply hospitals with medicine, equipment and maintenance, schools with books and good teachers, homes for the poor etc.. is able to pay money for ministers to take extravagant holidays, ministers luxury homes and a presidential "compound". If there's no money for essential services then how can they justify this expenditure?

      arthur.salvado - 2013-02-10 15:48

      Shame on you South Africa

      bless.boswell - 2013-02-10 16:26

      Agree 100%. The fight for freedom and liberation was a huge farce. All they really wanted was to get their grubby paws on public funds so that they could indulge themselves and their families. Forget the rest - the children and the elderly who look after them. The ANC is a disgrace.

      kimster - 2013-02-10 23:09

      and you still get these retards defending them - shows you how much they care about the next person

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-11 11:29

      Bless Boswell, yes and those that fought the battle for freedom and liberation, the honest ones that is, have all been kicked to the curb. No pensions, no nothing. The chosen few from Robben Island live in luxury while others who were there live on the streets. Tell me about it.

  • samacoba - 2013-02-10 15:39

    so when a goverment ''protectee'' goes on holiday,are they suddenly expected to pay for their bodyguards and protection....This one time the DA took it too far.

      arthur.salvado - 2013-02-10 15:51

      What possible danger is he in? He's not known in the Seychelles . I don't even know if he is too well known in this country. 2m is a disgrace. Shame on you South Africa

      bobby.rosewood.1 - 2013-02-10 16:14

      I agree. This is just making a noise without base.

      bless.boswell - 2013-02-10 16:32

      No, they did not. They are not complaining about the holiday, but about the expense. It does not have to be in a location where there are airfares and airport taxes and expensive exotic hotels. Or perhaps ... Maybe SA is now so run down, they had nowhere nice to go? Makes you think ...

      samacoba - 2013-02-10 18:02

      @Aurthur,Fact of the matter is you need security for the Dep.President for the very same reason you wont fly them in the same plane...@Aurthur and Bless, security specialists at that level do not exactly come at R100 an hour,so considering their pay,and the fact that they should not be paying for the accomodation where they are sent too,maybe(assuming costs are not inflated by Seychelles) the cost of travel,personnel,food plus accomodation is justified...Mind u Authur a details has to be sent before,as with any proper security agency would do when protecting a president/prime minister and their deputies...think guys,please think....

      samacoba - 2013-02-10 18:05

      Apologies for mis-spelling your name Arthur...

      iceberg.standard - 2013-02-10 22:10

      There are plenty of places right here in SA where he could holiday! Nkandla comes to mind, there's even a tuckshop! What more does he need. Then he won't need five bodyguards!

      Nunu - 2013-02-12 06:25

      I wonder why he did not rather visit an African country, does our continent have nothing to offer?

  • Bra - 2013-02-10 15:42

    DA zama e-next door! We can see thru it. U r even will to compromise ur second in command's security. Totally irresponsible. Focus on repaying the Guptas since u consider their money dirty

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2013-02-10 16:18

      I think you should focus on getting an education.

      pieter.strydom.334 - 2013-02-10 18:08

      She will be able to pay the guptas back,will the african national corruption be able to pay the country back for what they stolen and still stealing from the their own country,it seems to me that you work with the same calculator than your corrupt party do,i think your education is been stolen from you,do you come from limpopo

      jerry.pres - 2013-02-10 18:36

      You know country can survive ANC and their leaders, but country cannot survive idiots, who vote them into government.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-11 11:31

      Bra. I know you are learning, no need to tire us with your efforts.

      derek.francois.3 - 2013-02-11 22:27

      Hey is your BRA too tight as its effecting your remaining indoctrinated brain cell......

  • danzel.sibiya - 2013-02-10 15:47

    Great master minds, however, they ANC suck!

      khaya.mteshane - 2013-02-12 15:42

      And DA swallows!!

  • lmngadi - 2013-02-10 15:47

    When ever will the DA ever stop complaining about everything or rather will they ever come up with a single solution to the problems that fustrate them so much

      arthur.salvado - 2013-02-10 15:53

      Very frustrated indeed. How is the DA or YOU ever going to get all the money squandered, stolen from the taxpayer back . It could then be used for infrastructure . Shame on you South Africa

      jerry.pres - 2013-02-10 18:39

      They will stop complaining after ANC will stop steal tax payers money and use them for nation needs, not for personal needs. Money, which are stolen by your government, could possibly improve life of the poorest in this country. But I am sure very difficult for you to understand.

      patricia.dewet.92 - 2013-02-10 22:54

      Why do the ANC love bodyguards so much. What are scared of. Maybe the people will get fed up with their stealing and then these bodyguards will be necessary. To me it looks like a fashion item. I hope it was a nice holiday because at that price he must have been served on golden plates, and how much can you eat. What are they proving?

      heinrich.nel.35 - 2013-02-11 12:34

      Single solution? Ive got one, Im sure its crossed many an educated South-African's mind: "ANC give up power and disband" . . . If the majority of SA isnt knowledgeable enough to think for themeselves, it is perhaps necessary to start pushing them in the right direction, that is a democtratic, just, fair and literate direction. Ever heard of this idiom: In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king? This idiom is probably nowhere as applicable as in SA

      derek.francois.3 - 2013-02-11 22:31

      Only 1 solution is needed - rid SA of the corrupt thieving ANC parasites........

      xolanit.ntuli.9 - 2013-02-12 07:33

      ViVa ANC ViVa, it must be doing things right if people such as these should be So out of touch with reality and themselves

  • tusani.masoka - 2013-02-10 15:48

    I don't envy the public protector's job, especially in these corrupt times!!

  • carel.merwe.7 - 2013-02-10 15:49

    For all of you having real jobs now ans paying tax, that's where your tax money is going. Holidays are fine but SERIOUSL Y is this necessary!! Give some of that money to your own people without homes or food. But then again we don't expect anything less of them! Sigh.....

  • Peter Zylstra - 2013-02-10 15:52

    This is so typical african.....there is no value system. This idiotic fool has a holiday costing millions while there are so many people going hungry. He does not command any respect, he is a disgrace to SA!

      arthur.salvado - 2013-02-10 15:56

      Who is this squandering fool. Was he not a big shot once, sometime back? I seem to recall. What is his claim to fame. Can someone please mention just one achievement of consequence. Shame on you South Africa

      TinavoMagaisa - 2013-02-10 21:48

      He is a vice president of this country and he is entitled to the service, just the way Zille is when she travels for personal or state duty because she is a premier.

      sandra.j.rennie - 2013-02-11 13:42

      TinavoMagaisa - Sorry to inform you but isn't Cyril Vice President ? In what decade are you living ?

      mushumi - 2013-02-11 20:03

      @Sandra.j.rennie - Cyril is the deputy president of the ANC and Motlanthe the deputy president of the country....at this point.

  • carel.merwe.7 - 2013-02-10 15:53

    For all of you having real jobs now ans paying tax, that's where your tax money is going. Holidays are fine but SERIOUSL Y is this necessary!! Give some of that money to your own people without homes or food. But then again we don't expect anything less of them! Sigh.....

      pieter.strydom.334 - 2013-02-10 18:22

      Hi mcweavon,im sure your girlfriend wrote your text and sometime back in history somebody showed you how to copy and paste,this is exactly how your mentors and leaders operate,copy and paste from the poor to their own account,do you know what is windows,wake up boet their are more keys on your keyboard

  • jones.mosima - 2013-02-10 15:54

    Hei, Yerr, there goes our Tax money to Sychelles. Ok great, I'm gonna quit my job, I wanna join the ANC. I don't care what role they give me, anything from mayor,premier,or minister Will do. I'm tired of being a Thousanaire, I want millions to be spend in my name also. R2m in twelve days,eish. Ke batla go skima Bra. Motlanthe and Bra. Zuma AKA Nkandla Founder I want the DA to also investigate moa. 2lt Dr. Mo J. Thanks

  • mantsho.tlali - 2013-02-10 15:57

    They spend a lots of money to themselves, l just feel sorry for their supporters who still lives in poor conditions without water and electricity, What does he needs 5 Bodyguards for, let alone 2 million holiday.

  • Earl O Tool - 2013-02-10 16:04

    a holiday, no problem. just the timing that sucks. the government is full of problems involving corruption and a tuck shop, that it shouldn't further spend our taxes and say that we have to have etoll and petrol hikes cause there is not enough money

  • bobby.rosewood.1 - 2013-02-10 16:11

    I am getting fed up with the DA. Don't they have anything else to blabber about? If this is the best they can do as opposition, then we have to accept that the ANC is doing a sterling job in gouvernment. I'd rather have the ANC in charge the the 'Sour Grapes' party, DA. Get a life, losers. This is the vice president we are talking about. He needs protection, what would happen if he were assassinated? there's just been an attempt --a pathetically clumsy one, but still- on the leaders of the ANC, including the pres & vice pres. We cannot let them go do self catering in Rustenburg Kloof. Let's get real here.

      pieter.strydom.334 - 2013-02-10 18:36

      Hey bobby you didnt smell the roses yet,kom by idioot,wie wil die kettiekop leed aan doen,en buitendien daar is genoeg korruptes om hom te vervang wat maak hom so spesiaal,die volgende korrupte gaan 7 bodyguards saamvat,bobby for vice pres.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-11 11:36

      Bobby Rosewood1. Who would want to kill him?. What attempt on the pres and government?. Really how pathetic, you believe everything you read?. It is time you get real.

      unclejb.vansiths - 2013-02-11 11:55

      Booremag were plotting to kill all the ANC leaders in Mangaung or did you choose not to read that story

      derek.francois.3 - 2013-02-11 22:35

      Hey Bobby If he were assassinated I'm sure there will be a hell of a big party......

      xolanit.ntuli.9 - 2013-02-12 07:24

      I give you bells

      khaya.mteshane - 2013-02-12 15:48

      If DA had someone like you, I would definitely vote for them.

  • Nhlanhla Zondi - 2013-02-10 16:12

    I so wish DA could put more effort in W Cape as it does in ANC/Government personnel private lives, i'm sure W Cape would be the best province to live in

      bobby.rosewood.1 - 2013-02-10 16:18

      hear hear. Focus on yourselves, DA. You'v got a job to do.

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-02-10 16:28

      Jy benifit seker deur die gravy train...

      iceberg.standard - 2013-02-10 22:18

      According to the sensus statistics it is most definately the best province to live in.

  • MarkH - 2013-02-10 16:25

    What the hell does he need 5 bodyguards for? it's not as if anybody really cares who he is, what he does or where he is.

      xoli.mbambo - 2013-02-10 16:34

      That's the truth with the capital 'T'.

      cappella.b.odrama - 2013-02-11 19:49

      And I'm sure u think FW De Klerk needs bodyguards ne ??

  • Michael Hawthorne - 2013-02-10 16:26

    Half of a holiday's cost is the travel. He was going in private time to seychelles not for work. Therefor the company / government does not pay for transport the uitgevreete limmel moet sy eie kostes dra vir private use!!

  • kortbroek.duplessis - 2013-02-10 16:27

    Mr President did such a good job for us. Leave him alone he deserves it

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2013-02-11 03:00

      I wonder if news 24 is also owned by the Gutpas. Say anything negative about a high ranking ANC person and your comment gets deleted. Blow smoke up their behinds and your comment remains.

  • elkita.robbertse.96 - 2013-02-10 16:32

    He goes on holiday with the money the ANC stole from the poor.The poor must stay home hungry and he goes on holiday with the stolen money

  • daan.phalaborwa - 2013-02-10 17:16

    Another way to steal money. All above board of course.

  • Smart Peace - 2013-02-10 17:24

    The DA is really frustrated. They don't know what, where, when and how to handle their politics. They should leave politics. They must relinquish their position as the official opposition to some other party maybe Cope. Shame on you

      mantsho.tlali - 2013-02-10 17:42

      So You support ANC corruption, SHAME ON YOU IDIOT!

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2013-02-10 17:52

    Fore heavens sake why does he need all those body guards, what is he afraid of. Why can they look out for themselves like we have to. All they want is swank because they believe it shows class, and importance and power. Squeaky two shoes, his shoes not so clean after all.

  • Matjaka - 2013-02-10 17:59

    i like the game DA and ANC playing.DA just want to confirm with Thuli madonsela whether things followed the proper channel.

  • Sthembile Goba - 2013-02-10 18:28

    I think the DA is toothless without the ANC. No strategies nothing, they r just n opposition party with no sense of direction

      kimster - 2013-02-10 23:11

      you mean the anc is a party with no sense of direction? look at the state of the country and all the departments - DA's doing???

  • matimbam - 2013-02-10 18:29

    And what's the issue here. The city press is really getting bored. Oh by the way its election session!!!

      ronald.vantoorn.9 - 2013-02-10 19:04

      The issue is waste of taxpayer money that could have been used to relieve poverty!

      ronald.vantoorn.9 - 2013-02-10 19:05

      The issue is waste of taxpayer money that could have been used to relieve poverty!

      ronald.vantoorn.9 - 2013-02-10 19:05

      The issue is waste of taxpayer money that could have been used to relieve poverty!

      ronald.vantoorn.9 - 2013-02-10 19:05

      The issue is waste of taxpayer money that could have been used to relieve poverty!

  • PETESKEAT - 2013-02-10 18:52

    The per capita income in South Africa is in the region of R35000.00 per annum. By any measure, a holiday costing the state (i.e. citizen you and me)is insensitive. Full stop.

      PETESKEAT - 2013-02-10 18:53

      *costing R2 million

  • Alan - 2013-02-10 18:56

    Probability of anything undertaken by the cANCerous mafia being above board = 0%. More taxpayer money down toilet while SA starves.

  • John - 2013-02-10 19:09

    Parasites feed off their host?

  • ntumbane.jones - 2013-02-10 20:16

    darren.raath.5 - February 10, 2013 "another corrupt official in government....." Your Grandfathers are the cause of this, the likes of Hendrik Verwoed,Jan Smuts, Paul Kruger until FW Botha the last apartheid president. They were all corrupt bastards who looted the economy of this country.Now you are crying foul.Go to hang.

      alex.m.donald.75 - 2013-02-11 02:31

      Hahahaha! Soooo typical! Still playing the shameful, feel sorry for me, it's apartheids fault card! If the sky was green it would be because it's apartheids fault! Wake up you morons. Look at what the theiving leaders are doing at present day! Are you feeling to proud to admit that what they are doing is wrong? I bet if this same exact group of government officials did not have the name ANC we fought for the people back in 1976 story, your vote would not go to them, it would go to honest people that really did care about you. They are still milking what actual good people did, and have a take take take attitude because they think it's owed to them. Stop blaming cANCers wasteful spending and evil, theiving ways on something that ended 19 years back. This it's apatheids fault card is getting really reaaaally old! Yawn!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-11 11:40

      Ntumbane.jones. He who, forever, grope in the past for his words will never walk in the reality of today or in the possibilities of the future.

  • mzuvukile.maswana - 2013-02-10 20:21

    The man is Deputy President of the country is he not entitled to the state coffing up money for his protection? How interesting when the issue of the building industry mafia came up very few comments came up. Now such a pity issue and some people make a huge issue out of it.

  • Erna - 2013-02-10 20:50

    While it may all be above board, I find the way people spend huge amounts of money in the face of such huge poverty obscene. It seems as if the comrades have forgotten why they fought so hard for freedom and who the people are that keep them in such wealth.

  • irvin.mkhari - 2013-02-10 21:27

    i think is for the best,HE needed that holiday.or HE could have died with stress after He lost the battle against the old man.

  • refloydm - 2013-02-10 21:32

    I don't understand when u complain about the VP using state resources, he's entitled to such, as long he is in office, he remains the state VP, whether at home, work or holiday, it’s the responsibility of the state to facilitate his logistics and security, for that reason, even the US does that, imagine how much ransom we will have to pay from your so called "taxpayers money" if there is a breach in his security while he’s on holiday. In March 2012, President Obama took the British Prime Minister David Cameron to a basketball game in Ohio aboard Air Force One. Do u find anything wrong with that?

  • ali.makhadzi - 2013-02-10 21:47

    Like realy now! Whats the fuss here? Im sure even all the presidents of the apartheid era still go around with bodyguards

      ali.makhadzi - 2013-02-10 21:59

      On our expense since our tax $ pays for them till death. Caucasions should stop acting like poverty was born in the democratic era otherwise all whites would b rich. Fact of the matter is that all animals r = , but some more = than others. Ths isnt an issue in R.S.A only. So its best u get up

      emma.strydom.12 - 2013-02-11 15:21

      Hello Ali it is not the bodyguards that is the issue but his free holiday

  • alex.m.donald.75 - 2013-02-10 22:39

    African National Circus. Wouldn't expect anything less from these uneducated ignoramus pigs stealing tax money for their own selfish needs while the poor suffer. Wasn't it his comrade that said they do not need to put more attention and security on farm murders as they are not special areas? Then why does he need body guards to accompany him? He is not so special either that he needs to take such expensive holidays and have security accompany him. Amazing how it is always a different set of rules when it comes to these thieving devils. Where does one just get R2 million rand to just pay for a holiday out of their own pocket. People are seriously stupid if they believe that bunch of drivel!

  • johan.syffert - 2013-02-11 01:25

    Why can't he holiday in SA like the rest of us? Too scared?

  • solomon.shingange.9 - 2013-02-11 04:21

    No comment thank you.

  • tshiamo.tsotetsi - 2013-02-11 10:11

    Why is the media always trying to project a picture of ANC led government as the most corrupt, and citizens who are lazy to think or easily mobilized by the unsustainable direction of wind also follow suit. What is wrong with the deputy president who went on holiday and even payed for his own accommodation. If it was Zille it would have been an act of an angel, I mean she is still right after receiving money from the guptas without her party knowledge, she survive cause she is central to the imperialist agenda to unseat the ANC with the extensive use of media asthe main tool, we genuin South Africans are tired of such nonsense.

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-02-11 22:28

      because using R2mil of government money for security on a private holiday is not how South Africa's money should be spent. you are driving the gravy train while your fellow south africans eat pap n tik and lives in shacks how is that not corrupt Fark you man fark you!

      lee.brand.73 - 2013-02-12 00:04

      Ha ha. Chop. The projected picture is showing the most corrupt goverment in the world. There is no conspiracy - it's not needed, because the pig is feeding on itself! Ha ha again!

      xolanit.ntuli.9 - 2013-02-12 06:22

      Well said Tshiamo.

  • William Mohlolo - 2013-02-11 10:30

    Dissatisfied Apartheid (DA) Leaders do whatever it takes to bring Anc down. I feel sorry for courts and Thuli because they are used by Dissatisfied Apartheid leaders to settle the score.

  • flynn.govender - 2013-02-11 10:50

    Whats new in SA????

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-11 11:22

    Five bodyguards?. Who does he think he is?. Obama?.

  • Richard - 2013-02-11 13:12

    Who the hell can afford to pay R 2 mil for a holiday.

  • phillip.marchant.52 - 2013-02-11 20:01

    Of course, of course. After all, what does it matter if you eat until your stomach bursts, or whether you starve to death? Either way you die, and it's just a question of on which side of the fence you were born. Go, Mothlanthe, go. You just enjoy your lovely little holiday, and don't worry that some poor mother's kid is paying for it - with his life...

  • PusoM.gov - 2013-02-11 23:58

    Wait until our president takes his family on holiday!!

  • Nunu - 2013-02-12 06:20

    Why waste money on the poor when it can be spent on transporting wealthy politicians? Makes sense, all ANC MP's should be issued with bumper stickers for their Wabenzies - "F the Poor!".

  • zaricke.muir - 2013-02-12 13:28

    Please can Obama move to SA!

  • khaya.mteshane - 2013-02-12 15:41

    Thats all that DA does..nothing else!!!