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Municipal offenders database all set

2013-03-28 22:31

Johannesburg - An online database of municipal officials dismissed for misconduct will soon be operational to help prevent them being re-employed at other municipalities, the ministry for co-operative governance said on Thursday.

The ministry said in a statement the centralised database would be a "blacklisting" system and would also aim to warn other municipalities in cases, where officials resigned before their disciplinary proceedings were finalised.

This was in accordance with the Municipal Systems Act, as amended in 2011, which forbids municipal officials dismissed for financial misconduct, corruption, or fraud being re-appointed in any municipality for a decade.

The ministry was allowed to gather information on these offenders, and this information would be made available to municipalities for checks during recruitment to ensure compliance with the Act.

On Tuesday, AfriForum spokesperson Ivan Herselman said in a statement the organisation had written to Co-operative Governance Minister Richard Baloyi requesting that such a system be put in place.

This would help communities to keep watch on appointments in their municipalities.

Comments
  • SharonE - 2013-03-28 22:39

    How many names in the database? ZERO http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/2-000-officials-prosecuted-for-fraud-20130326 According to the article none of these were dismissed, a requirement to get put on the database. Revolting, disgusting, useless - but then again, what else is new?

      WildCatSal - 2013-03-29 00:10

      OhFFS! When do thing go right.. Ever!

      John Barbarian - 2013-03-29 00:30

      @Sharon Search on Google...:)

      Fussed Anderson - 2013-03-29 07:43

      How much did this data base cost R40mil or more?

      Croix Mactee - 2013-03-29 10:41

      How about those that are on suspension with full pay and priviledges? I am damn sure there are thousands on this 'Mini Gravy Train' You know, what most 'Pisces' me off about this never-ending "suspension", is even though a car is linked to the doing of a specific job, and a suspendant is NOT currently DOING the specific job, he/she keeps using that car & gets petrol/services/etc together with other benefits - while LOUNGING away their time at home - getting full pay!!!!!!!!!!!

      MallyGold - 2013-03-29 13:02

      I would also like to know who has criminal convictions in order to avoid employing thieves, rapists and murderers.

  • Mpho Msanda Netshivhazwaulu - 2013-03-28 23:23

    better move, hoping this will also be aplicable to cllr's who misuse their powers to manupulate tender process

  • Theo Schoeman - 2013-03-28 23:23

    All these systems in place and non of them actualy work. CanCer brilliant ideas ... never seen any of them result in action be taken.

  • mkobane1 - 2013-03-28 23:57

    The system has been hacked already.

  • Bless Boswell - 2013-03-29 00:31

    How much to get the names off the database? Whose palm is greased to do that job?

  • Deiza Malope - 2013-03-29 00:50

    ANC = Intention / Talk shop/ Day dreaming - until there is action we should ignore this wish list.

  • steward.debruin - 2013-03-29 01:31

    So nearly 20 years into the "democracy" they decide to build a centralized database? What were they doing all this time? The thing that sickens me the most is the fact that we lose 25 billion plus a year to corruption and incompetence, but when is any of that money reclaimed? It did not just disappear.

  • Marathodi Leru - 2013-03-29 05:35

    Like everything in govt, there are going to be massive challenges with implementation. Despite that, I believe this is a step in the right direction. I wish the whole programme was independently run.

      Theo Joubert - 2013-03-29 05:57

      @Marathidi it would be great to have this independantly run. My only concern is that as with most government projects this one will most probably also enup in the hands of corrupt officials taking bribes to have names removed. Even if an independant body is set up to run this, chances are that it will be a corrupt organisation. (So sad the state our Country is in!!)

  • Sarel Brits - 2013-03-29 06:12

    Enforcement might be a problem but SARS would be able to pick up when these bandit's pay TAX and who is paying their TAX if it's a new employee they should get a tax clearance 1st.

  • Nombengula Mlamli - 2013-03-29 06:12

    There is a data base in the police where people with criminal convictions and pending cases appear in every police station in SA so as to assist police with their investigations. I have seen people with criminal records not appearing in that database, how different will this be? This is SA not USA (kuseMzantsi la! asimoStates)

  • Robert Verson - 2013-03-29 06:15

    There is however a small loophole for “guilty” employees. In terms of clause 8 of the Disciplinary and Grievance Agreement negotiated between SALGA (representing the Municipalities) and the Trade Unions (representing the officials), an employee who receives a Notice of Misconduct can resign before the final determination has been handed down and the disciplinary enquiry shall then not proceed. The effect if this is that by resigning he will not be found guilty and therefore cannot be put on the national database. The official is then free to apply for positions at other municipalities. "Innocent till proven Guilty" It must be mentioned that this Discplinary agreement has been in effect since 2003.

  • Jenifer Johnstone - 2013-03-29 06:16

    why only municipality officials start from the head, remember the Nkandla mansion

  • Theo Joubert - 2013-03-29 06:34

    "the Municipal Systems Act, as amended in 2011, which forbids municipal officials dismissed for financial misconduct, corruption, or fraud being re-appointed in any municipality for a decade" This act also create criminal offences such as misappropriation of funds and others. But it seems that it is never used and especially Municipal managers never gets charged with these offences. Our Municipality for the past three or more years received very disturbing audit reports by the AG. In the previous financial year they found that more than R24000000 was misappropriated, spend fruitless and wasteful. All of these are serious offences according to the act. The municipal manager in such cases should be suspended and a disciplinary hearing must be instituted. Criminal charges must also be made against him/her. But this never happens. Our municipal manager is still here. In fact the AG report stated that the financial records is in a total state of chaos. It seems that accountability does not exist when it comes to people that has the right political connections. Even with this database in place I doubt that it will prevent these people to be apointed at a nother municipality. They do not implement or uphold the current law aplicable to them.

  • Jammies Jamneck - 2013-03-29 07:05

    Is there a function for daily updates...and MB increases!! Atleast 1 job created but this person will be investigated soon for curupting the database...this goverment underestimates its own ability to incompetance!!

  • arthur.salvado - 2013-03-29 07:16

    Parliament offenders database ? Not happening either. ANC must know that smoke screens are transparent.

  • GrantE - 2013-03-29 07:37

    Now we just need one for government ministers and members of parliament.

  • Vic Grant - 2013-03-29 08:16

    Putting their names on a Database is not good enough,whether they resigned or not to avoid prosecution should not allow them not to be prosecuted. I have not heard of a single municipal / government employee or ex-employee been sent to jail for fraud, theft etc.

  • Sapper_Coetzee - 2013-03-29 08:30

    How about extending to all public servants and fire the one that redeployed the corrupt member? Or will we then sit with millions that lose their jobs?

  • geldenmessina - 2013-03-29 09:24

    how is going to run the system the suspended people

  • HJS - 2013-03-29 09:28

    Semms like a good idea but sadly I have no confidence that there is ANY chance at all that this will be corerctly implemented and be of any use to the ripped off tax payers.

  • Rodney Potledi Glen Mapara - 2013-03-29 10:06

    What happend to.. u do crime u do your time. and that infomation can be easily obtain from the criminal backround check. this is another wasteful taxpayers project, to keep themselves out of jail. They must go straight to jail ....Amen

  • BRIAN VAN RENSBURG - 2013-03-29 16:23

    ONLY YOUR NAME IN THE DATABAES

  • joshua.vanvuren - 2013-04-03 20:08

    Won't work until those proven culprits-on all levels of government and public services- gets criminally charged, founded guilty and does time in jail.

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