Mute Manyi provokes media outcry

2011-05-26 13:36

Cape Town - There was an outcry from journalists attending a briefing at Parliament on Thursday, when government spokesperson Jimmy Manyi refused to put any flesh on the bare bones of a two-line Cabinet statement regarding the next leadership of the International Monetary Fund.

"Cabinet endorses the view that the next leadership of the IMF should come from the emerging countries. Cabinet did not discuss any names of potential candidates," was all the statement said on the IMF issue.

Pushed for more information, Manyi refused to give any.

"Anything I say beyond that... would be putting words in the Cabinet's mouth, so to speak. So that is the final position of Cabinet. So there is nothing further to say beyond that," he said.

This response unleashed a further barrage of questions and requests for context, and again Manyi refused to offer more detail.

"I think you must understand my role. [It] is not to manufacture information. It is to communicate what Cabinet has decided. What I communicate here is what... Cabinet has decided, not the deliberations of Cabinet.

"The decision of Cabinet is as communicated in the statement... I'm not here to take you through the deliberations, who said what and all those things," he said.

Reacting to this, a journalist told him: "We come here and expect to get from you more than a two-line sentence. Surely, you are here to extrapolate a little bit... To come here and say you can't answer... is not actually helping anybody."

Manyi responded: "If you ask the question and you already have the answer, maybe you shouldn't ask the question. If you ask the question, then the obligation to answer is mine, and how I answer is how I answer."

‘Compromise SA's position’

Another journalist suggested to Manyi that he might as well e-mail the Cabinet statement, to which he replied that a briefing was necessary to communicate to South Africans who did not have access to e-mail, or were blind or illiterate or deaf.

Asked why he did not simply book air time on TV or radio to do this, he told the journalist who had asked this question: "That just shows how insensitive you are. Some people in this country cannot afford a TV... You can't assume everyone can afford a TV."

Asked if he wasn't being "hypocritical", by providing more detail on some issues, but not on the matter of the IMF, Manyi said further detail might compromise South Africa's position.

"South Africa is busy talking to the relevant partners on this matter, so there hasn't been more detail on how those discussions are going."

"The challenge I have is that I'm not at liberty to respond to the level of detail you require because of the sensitivity of the discussions.

"You must appreciate it is a considered view of Cabinet that the communication that goes out must be at [the level it is] because of the sensitivity of the discussion.

"Anything beyond this will compromise the discussions that are happening," Manyi said.

The Brics group of countries - comprising Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa - issued a statement on Wednesday condemning the tradition of appointing a European as head of the IMF as "obsolete".

European countries are pushing for the appointment of French finance minister Christine Lagarde as the new IMF MD, following the resignation of former head Dominique Strauss-Khan after he was charged with sexual assault in New York.

Among the questions journalists were seeking answers to at Thursday's briefing was Cabinet's position on minister in the presidency Trevor Manuel's possible placement on the short list for the IMF post.

  • Barry - 2011-05-26 13:49

    What`s new ?

      Meanleader - 2011-05-26 16:43

      Manyi is about as complex as his statement !! What a complete moron !

      Simpiwe Cele - 2011-05-27 11:59

      Manyi will kak when Trevor get the job , I'm sure Jimmy always thought he was more powerful.

  • whatsinaname - 2011-05-26 13:50

    This article is about as useless as Manyi's statements. - 2011-05-26 13:56

      I concur

      Protest - 2011-05-26 14:16

      I find this news report very informative. To call a press briefing and recite two lines as news is unforgivable. Then refusing to answer the questions in anything but an arrogant, passive aggressive way is insulting to the reporters attending the briefing. What a waste of time and resources. Was this press briefing perhaps planned to invoke emotions, to justify the new media gag law being tabled?

      kaiersai - 2011-05-26 14:38

      @Protest, exactly what I was thinking, enforcing it before its even in effect? Shows where its going to go already. Sigh.

      cancer1983 - 2011-05-26 14:52

      Manyi basically just admitted that he is of no use to anyone with email... I'd love his salary for basically just reading the minutes of a meeting.

      david vigilant - 2011-05-26 14:54

      No, this INFORMATION is worth quite a lot more more than manki's. It shows quite clearly what the new state of secrecy looks like, you voted us in, now go back under your rocks. I do like the accusation that not all have tv's, although considfering most of the people don't yet have toilets, it's typical ANC.

      Lionel - 2011-05-26 15:16

      Indeed; a wast of a few kb's here :(

      Mad Hatter - 2011-05-26 15:54

      There's an over supply of Jimmy in Govt .

  • Marcell - 2011-05-26 13:53

    Elections are over!

  • jowza - 2011-05-26 13:55

    manyi is redploying a coloured to the imf

      GT - 2011-05-26 14:45

      The IMF will be run by a European this time. Although we all respect clever Trevor, his one glaring problem is that he doesn't not have the paperwork to back up his position in a body like the IMF. You will find a Dr of Economics/ Law/ something clever will get the job.

      REVO - 2011-05-26 14:50

      Exactly, what was the term he used?... aah! redistribution of an over supply in the western cape.

  • IandI - 2011-05-26 14:01

    What did journalists expect,hmm? This is Senor Jimmy Manyi Esq. He should be appointed Minister of State Information(No Information)?

  • Darkwing Duck - 2011-05-26 14:05

    Seriously! Given track records, I wouldn't wan't anybody from BRIC handling international funds! - 2011-05-26 16:24

      I hear you Darkwing Duck

  • I_Say - 2011-05-26 14:06

    I think he was promoted from Jiimy the spokesman to Jimmy the Smokesman ...

  • Zakhele - 2011-05-26 14:09

    No comment from me this time. Everyone has their favourites. My favourite is Jimmy's style. Maybe he is too much for the brightest of the brightest. I just hope that one day him and I run South Africa. Him being the Country's President and me being a Deputy President. Amen!

      roboman1 - 2011-05-26 14:20

      if Manyi runs the country the coloured people better leave, the white will already be gone cause malema needs only one short term in office to make us take our cash and duck, and when Manyi eventually gets there Zim will look like a wealthy place!

      jowza - 2011-05-26 14:23

      @roboman.what cash?that belongs to the bank

      Jannie - 2011-05-26 15:04

      Jowza, you want to take all that was "stolen" by the whites, now you deny that the whites have any cash as it belongs to the banks. Thanks for that comment for now I know I can ignore your comments as you obviously are not very bright. Who do you think deposited that money in the bank, Father Chrismas?

      Sledgedarkwatch - 2011-05-26 15:14


      jowza - 2011-05-26 15:17

      you still believe in father christmas?a study conducted in 1994 stated that 75% of whites in this country did not have a nett worth of was all owned by the banks

      Sam.H - 2011-05-26 15:46

      @jowza you mean to tell me that 75% of the whites were actually quite poor just after apartheid? I thought all whites mmade themseves filthy rich on the backs of the rest of the poor South Africans.

  • CharlSkeptic - 2011-05-26 14:12

    I would have said exactly the same as Jimmy, if I had been in his position. Did they want him to make up some shit? Reaaly

      gizzy - 2011-05-26 14:31

      No, just to eleborate on the statement. That is what press secretaries the world over are paid to do.

      Protest - 2011-05-26 16:03

      As the official spokesperson for the ANC, it is reasonable to expect him to actually speak. Not bark insults and belittlements.

  • Wonderboy - 2011-05-26 14:15

    People who do not have a TV would surely not be interested in or even know what the IMF is. What a "dick".

      Worldwise - 2011-05-26 14:44

      All the people he is referring to do have TV's, usually one that used to belong to someone else. Some even have DSTV dishes on their shacks. Very few have TV licences though, thats probably why the SABC stats regarding TV ownership don't show these people as having TV's. And This; - "I think you must understand my role. [It] is not to manufacture information. It is to communicate what Cabinet has decided. What I communicate here is what... Cabinet has decided, not the deliberations of Cabinet." So, did cabinet decide that the Western Cape has an overpopulation of colourds?

      jowza - 2011-05-26 14:53

      and who said you are wise,worldidiot

  • Phlegm - 2011-05-26 14:17

    If I did not have email, access to Internet or own a TV then I probably would not give a flying rats bum what cabinet's opinion is regarding the IMF situation! Then again I am actually fortunate to have all of those things and I still don't give a rats bottom what the cabinet thinks of the IMF..................but thanks for the update anyhow Jimmy, you sensitive person!

  • Slapper - 2011-05-26 14:19

    The Spokesman refuses to speak? Typical ANC. They have nothing to say that can be taken for the truth anyway, but its a pity that Taxpayers are paying this man to speak and when he does, to speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

  • KPActivities - 2011-05-26 14:19

    Sounds like jimmy fell asleep during the discussions and dont know what to answer.

  • Freddie - 2011-05-26 14:21

    Manyi is useless and Manuel has no hope of ever being IMF MD, he has no relevant qualifications (struggle cred means nothing) and the "emerging bloc" need to match EU and US IMF contributions before they can have any say in who runs it.

      jowza - 2011-05-26 14:27

      manuel was the best finance minister we ever had,pre or post apartheit.imf a bunch of loan sharks anyway

      jowza - 2011-05-26 14:27

      must one fiddle with the maid to qualify?

      Makutu - 2011-05-26 14:34

      True that... He doesn't have quantitative qualifications. His diploma in Civil Engineering is NOTHING in the international community. Those guys have PhDs.

      gizzy - 2011-05-26 14:36

      Agreed. Manuel was finance minister in a third world country. He doesn't have the experience to run the IMF. Manuel has only ever worked as a "collective" and wouldn't know how to formulate his own policy. Furthermore Manuel was the Finance minister that dished out money on the arms deal of which most went into cadres pockets. He has a lot to answer for.

      jowza - 2011-05-26 14:43

      @gizzy.manuel was respected by all western it not ironic that a country that is trillions of dollars in debt,dictates monetary policy to the world.the same idiots who put the whole world in recession

      Worldwise - 2011-05-26 14:48

      Being Minister of Finance in a country that has less GDP than just the United States state of Maryland, does not quite cut it for boss of the IMF. Even if you did a good job. But I suppose Manyi would like to see affirmative action in the IMF?

      Freddie - 2011-05-26 15:27

      @ jowza, Manuel does not have any degree, merely a diploma from Peninsula Technikon, this compared to PHD's and Masters qualifications of all the other candidates. BEE and AA do not count in the real world. Being a successful finance minister is par for the course prior to 2008, they are ten a penny. Any idiot could shine in that environment. His legacy has not looked so good over the past few years, underspending on infrastructure etc. Do not try to blow him up into something he is not. In the IMF fiddling with the maid gets you fired... immediately. Unlike with Zooma who gets promoted to prez of the zoo. You ignorant fool.

      Simza - 2011-05-26 16:00

      Agreed boss, I know Mr Manuel is respected in SA but he does not have the qualifications to run an institution like IMF and there is no AA/EE, or cadre deployment there and besides even if he had US and EU will not let that happen.

  • bryan hurd - 2011-05-26 14:25

    another african dictator living off public funds but answerable to no one ?

      jowza - 2011-05-26 14:50

      who are you talking about

      james - 2011-05-26 20:42

      Jimmy 'the racist' Manyi obviously!!

  • falcon2020 - 2011-05-26 14:25

    This guy was kicked out of their country, by the Danish diplomatic core, for trying to further his own personal business interests during official meetings The ANC has no moral fibre, except for those members who have become capitalists and left politics.

  • YES - 2011-05-26 14:26

    I think the man's conduct is reflective of cabinet meetings as this and many other decisions made at that level are indeed questionable. One just have to look at the country's foreign policy lately - it really sucks. It is this kind of decisions by Zuma's administration which have attracted bile of criticism and mockery by our detractors both within the country and elsewhere. Manyi can therefore not be blamed for cabinet's decisions and/or take a rap for having nothing to report about when cabinet has nothing to apply its mind to, in the first place.

      charley - 2011-05-26 14:46

      Well then, why necessary to call the press when he had nothing to say.

  • saliem - 2011-05-26 14:27

    Short response... OK :P

  • Storming - 2011-05-26 14:28

    lets hope that they not hinting that someone from the ruling bunch of theives should get the post> as if our dearl land is nont embaraased enough already. Can you imagine the theft if an ANC cadre gets access to that kind of money???

  • gizzy - 2011-05-26 14:29

    And he earns how much??????

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-05-26 14:30

    This is an 'oversupply' of useless information.

      Freddie - 2011-05-26 15:29

      There is an 'oversupply' of useless cadres.

  • My Comment - 2011-05-26 14:32

    I think Manyi's answer was adequate. What is the outcry about? Pointless article anyway.

  • Makutu - 2011-05-26 14:32

    Jimmy Manyi has a point...

      Phlegm - 2011-05-26 14:35

      No, he has a chip........on his shoulder.

      falcon2020 - 2011-05-26 14:38

      his is pretty balanced, got a chip on both shoulders...

      PikeLee - 2011-05-26 14:39

      what point would that be? Its his job to speak. Or lie, which ever way you look at it...

      Barry - 2011-05-26 15:36

      @ Makutu His point is blunt

  • GinSA1 - 2011-05-26 14:32

    Manyi is a total waste of time, both during his time at a very large Corporate in Bryanston, where he quietly, very quietly, suddenly was no longer there, and now. The only time he has lots to say is when he is treating people of any other color than his own like manure, with his extremely superior attitude. He still remains, a useless, stupid and arrogant man.

  • GrainOfTruth - 2011-05-26 14:33

    Ja, but what was he actually supposed to say? It's not the two lines that upset the journos, it's that he made them get off their bottoms and leave the office and come around for a nothing of a news briefing. Ole Jimmy must be laffing all the way home on pulling a fast one on them self-important reporters. And, dear reporters, when you write about yourselves and how desperately important you are, the correct technical term for that is m.a.sturbation.

      PikeLee - 2011-05-26 14:42

      That wasn't funny...

      Kenno - 2011-05-26 16:20

      What was the point of your comments???

  • MacDaKnife - 2011-05-26 14:34

    Trevor Manuel and Manyi. Well Trevor had a go at him...

  • psydomx - 2011-05-26 14:37

    Hahahahaha...the truth of the matter is the IMF, would never in a million years appoint an African, because of their high levels of corruption.

  • vusi22 - 2011-05-26 14:38

    Well done Jimmy. You have handled the media very well. May you live long

      james - 2011-05-26 20:47

      He handled you well!!

  • Eric - 2011-05-26 14:41

    I suppose what he has said (very little) will also be taken out of context

  • Slingervel - 2011-05-26 14:46

    Doesn't matter whether it is only a two liner from Comrade Manyi. Christine Lagarde is the one that will get it. SA deserves no recognition with an IMF top job because there contribution to the IMF and to the poor in SA is ziltch!

  • umlaut - 2011-05-26 14:47

    @ darkwing duck----Ja the journalists probably found it was like talking to a Brick Wall-- but on the serious side , the IMF must make a rule that only countries with a low corruption rating (say in 1st top 20) should be allowed to put forward a candidate(s). This will motivate them to become less corrupt and this will benifit the whole world. I think after a thousand years SA's anc candidate may get there.

  • wakhalimaster - 2011-05-26 14:51

    Journalists! Haekhona! The man has given the Cabinet's position, wat more do u want? U always look 4 news le ko di seng teng u jst dig em up or make em up. Well done Manyi. I understand our position.

      Mxhuma - 2011-05-26 18:02

      Why were they wasting time talking about this IMF. Is it because it gives them a certain level of importance. I would have preferrred to hear a report about the time frames for the closing of the open toilets in Moqhaka Municipality, then we can say something about something far awaay as the IMF.

  • ME - 2011-05-26 14:53

    The media, Jimmy Manyi and Julius Malema have something in common: all a bunch of clowns

  • daaivark - 2011-05-26 14:54

    Someone forgot to program the parrot.

  • Jannie - 2011-05-26 14:57

    The article refers to Dominique Strauss-Khan having resigned after being charged with sexual assault. I seem to remember someone in this country who did not resign when charged, who the hell was that?...

      jowza - 2011-05-26 15:02

      i seem to remember a lot of people in this country fiddling with there maids

      Barry - 2011-05-26 15:37

      @ jowza Please tell us

  • Sho Fukamachi - 2011-05-26 15:24

    Destroy the ANC. Burn them alive.

      Zakhele - 2011-05-26 16:03

      You must be quite a silly Japanese to be brave enough to say that. Please don't take offence on this-but I am pretty sure the Japanese will be familiar with your surname. Have any Japanese ancestors, perhaps? Just kidding mate!

  • Zealous ZAR - 2011-05-26 16:15

    What an excuse of a man/statesman!

  • - 2011-05-26 16:27

    Every village has one. It must be Jimmy's turn again

  • alvin - 2011-05-26 16:33

    There will be an european at the head of the IMF. Europeans are the intelligent ones

  • Mxhuma - 2011-05-26 17:58

    We cannot even manage well the little resources we have. Even the toilets we construct say a lot about us as a people and as a country. Why bother with this IMF.

  • TSaR - 2011-05-26 18:04

    so Mr Manyi, regarding the sensitivity issue, you cannot e-mail, use radio or TV to talk to South Africa as most do not have e-mail, and the ones who dont cannot afford Televisions, others are ILLITERATE, DEAF and Dumb. etc. Question 1. How do you normally communicate? 2. Whats the point of the ANC launching its newspapers if the illiterate cant read, the deaf cannot hear television, and the dumb wont be able to ask questions or respond.

  • maseratifitt - 2011-05-26 18:21

    What a nice job. And for this he probably takes more than R10000 a month as a salary, from the taxpayer! The garbage collector does a better service to SA and gets paid less.

      Achmed - 2011-05-26 20:47

      You are missing a couple of zeros in the rate of pay or are you only refering to his expense report for media briefings. Ahh I suppose the missing zeros are in Manyi's head.

  • james - 2011-05-26 20:41

    Exactly how many people who are deaf, blind, illiterate and don't own a television set or a radio goes to these government press conferences?

  • Willie - 2011-05-26 21:17

    Typical of this government; they like the SA nation to be like mushrooms - keep us in the dark and feed us s**t

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