New protector probe baffles Shabangu

2011-12-07 22:39

Johannesburg - Businessman Roux Shabangu has voiced surprise at the news that Public Protector Thuli Madonsela is probing ties between him and suspended acting public works director general Sam Vukela.

"I found it interesting and intriguing that she had decided to investigate this 'alleged' relationship, and ignore my request of a broader investigation into the... negotiated bid leases," Shabangu said in a statement.

"I was certainly not expecting her to play the 'connections' card."

Madonsela told Shabangu during a debate on SAfm on Wednesday morning that she was investigating the relationship between him and Vukela.

This was after "information has come to us from other sources" that the relationship "may or may not be improper", Madonsela said.

Asked for comment, Shabangu said: "You know, I'm not even going to go into that."

Madonsela and Shabangu were being interviewed after he sent the public protector a letter in which he claimed that 194 lease agreements with the public works department in Pretoria were concluded without a tender process.

Shabangu said he welcomed Madonsela's investigation into his relationship with Vukela and would fully co-operate.

He said he was disappointed that Madonsela had misunderstood his letter.

"I sent a letter of complaint to the office of the public protector... stating my grievances and concerns about the manner in which the Middestad lease case has been handled."

In his letter, Shabangu pointed out that 73% of all lease agreements concluded by the department in Pretoria were through the negotiated bid process and not through tenders.

This was the same process followed with the police headquarters in the Pretoria Middestad, he said.

Shabangu said he was asking Madonsela to look into the other leases and to determine whether they all qualified for the negotiated bid process.

Madonsela needed to suspend all the leases pending the investigations, he said.

In October, Madonsela found that the procurement of two leases for new police headquarters in Pretoria and Durban, involving Shabangu, were unlawful and that they amounted to maladministration. The leases were worth R1.6 billion.

Following the report, President Jacob Zuma suspended national police commissioner Bheki Cele and dismissed public works minister Gwen Mahlangu-Nkabinde.

Shabangu said: "I was in no manner, trying to ask the PP [public protector] to exonerate the Middestad lease, nor was I expecting her to reverse her findings on this matter.

"In fact, I am eagerly awaiting my day in court to prove that the Middestad lease was and is valid."

  • colin.dovey - 2011-12-07 23:37

    The net widens yet again.....where does it all go to ...or end?

  • Joseph - 2011-12-08 00:03

    Thuli is playing double standards,does notwant to be critised,is she working on instruction from somebody,this leaves a lot to be desired.You complain or report crime you are the one inverstigated.Thuli do you have personal problems with Roux,conflict of interest Thuli rescure yourself in this case.You want to prove at all cost that Roux Shabanga lease was awarded illegally even if facts are put before you for consideration.I know one day you will play defence for your actions as you do not take or accept critisim,the purpose for your office will soon be compromised because of your actions and this will render your office irrelevent.The public will not take you serious even though you have more support from the white and black elite who have seen you as a step lander to getting tenders nullified by your office.

      tobydt - 2011-12-08 02:59

      Roux, is that you?

      Joseph - 2011-12-08 03:26

      Yes its me,what can i do for you?are you looking for a tender or a bee partner,sorry i do not do that my dealings are legal and in line with the governmant proccess.Thanks.

      Johan - 2011-12-08 05:56

      Yea, the game is on!

      Mike - 2011-12-08 07:53

      @joseph you are a right prick and assh?le

      Zebelon - 2011-12-08 11:31

      According to Joseph, if one is accused of murder, it is a valid defence to cite all the other murders commited countrywide and demand their probe. Joseph, if Shabangu's and Nkabinde's actions were not proper, that situation will not change simply because there are other similar cases. Don't try to obfuscate the wrongfull action that Madonsela so diligently investigated to salvage the plight of the taxpayers who lose their hard earned money in such a reckless manner as shown by the Shabangu cases. This is not a matter for a flippant talk like yours.

  • Michael - 2011-12-08 00:24

    Whats even more baffling, is the fact that this clown is baffled. It seems being caught out is so rare for the politically connected, that when it happens they just cannot believe it.

      procold2 - 2011-12-08 09:43

      micheal they go into denial "eish me, no i have done nothing, it was not me,who said so, those blady agents,they are talking rubbish,yes i welcome the investigation," six months later OOPS

  • Bob - 2011-12-08 03:15

    Roux Shabangu has too many ties to too many illegally generated tender deals, All involving massive amounts of money..! I doubt Roux Shabangu could ever have acquired these massive property asset acquisitions in such a short time on his own. There is I am sure collusion and underhand for gratitude dealings with government officials that have made this possible. This is one man that the public protector should investigate at great length..! The same applies to SARS who should also look more closely at him!

      Moss - 2011-12-08 09:12

      Come on Bob, it's called Nominated Supplier!! A lot of private companies are doing that to their brothers...

  • raymond.kok3 - 2011-12-08 05:06


  • Johan - 2011-12-08 05:50

    you will get your day in court and it will be for more than just the Middestad lease. looks to me you also qualify for a cell c deal.

  • Twoplusthree - 2011-12-08 06:38

    Roux has got a point (regardless of his corrupt / non-corrupt relationship with Vukela). It concerns me that a large number of negotiated lease deals are going unchecked in the current corrupt climate. According to Vukela, the department "negotiated" 2 415 of the 2 950 lease agreements between 2008 and September this year. Tip of the iceberg?

      Marion - 2011-12-08 08:24

      I think the public protector's office is going to end up bigger than the government with all the cases she has to investigate. Perhaps this investigation should have been targeted at ALL leases concluded by the government to permit the rich to get richer while the long drawn out investigation into each and every lease continues.

  • Dries - 2011-12-08 06:55

    Sam Vukela is my friend, finish and klaar!

      Marion - 2011-12-08 08:25

      Apparently so is Jacob Zuma...

  • dhuysamen1 - 2011-12-08 07:18

    Typical black defence strategy. When your suspect behaviour is about to be exposed, find a red herring or two or even 73 and throw that in the mix. Hopefully the person investigating you will be fool enough to go off on a wild goose chase, investigating the new revelations while you can clear the decks and hide / or destroy evidence. Blacks aare so transparantly stupid you could use them for windows. Thank the good lord I have a civilisation headstart of more then 2 000 years over them.

      Elliot - 2011-12-08 08:07

      Typical of racists, they used the Bible to oppress blacks, you got the cheek to say thanks Lord to you racist comment.

      Mike - 2011-12-08 08:14

      I think you mean a 2000 year delay!

      Marion - 2011-12-08 08:30

      @Xavier7034 - I agree with you.

      Peter - 2011-12-08 08:41

      The start and end to your comment was racist and uncalled for, and undermined the middle portion which actually made sense.

      Marion - 2011-12-08 09:51

      What happened to Xavier7034's comment? - 2011-12-09 07:55

      I can't bliv we still have such bitter white people like you in this country. & return to your native land if you going to be so racist like that. We have no place for you here!!!

  • Jos - 2011-12-08 07:34

    Well, wait for your day in court then. I have heard that one before, by the time your day in cout arrives, please take it with both hands. see then in court because you are innocent until proven otherwise.

  • J-Man - 2011-12-08 07:50

    The more Thuli uncovers 'shady dealings' within government and exposes them, the less I think she will last in the ANC. Because she might as well investigate them all.

      NrGx - 2011-12-08 08:16

      true but can you imagine the uproar if zuma fired her now. she has done nothing wrong except do her job well. He cant get rid of her, she has the personality that will fight JZ and i bet she will come out on top. One thing zuma does know how to do, is pick his fights.

      J-Man - 2011-12-09 07:49

      Yup, I agree.

  • Archie - 2011-12-08 07:57

    Roux Shabangu is exposed,now he is bringing the rest of the property tenderpreneurs down with him.Gov has abused our tax money again for personal gains by a few.New ANC slogan .f the poor they will always vote anc

  • Marion - 2011-12-08 08:20

    What amazes me is how many 'previously disadvantaged' individuals got extremely rich within about two decades. Wish I had their recipe for success as I'm sure most of the poor do.

  • Phumezo - 2011-12-08 08:25

    Every democracy and peace loving individual in this country knows that you are innocent until proven otherwise and not the other way around. Even the likes of Shabangu though there is prima-fica case against him he deserves his day in court! This thing of trying people through the media and Public Protector's statements must come to an end or else we are heading on a slippery slope as a country. The PP is not a judge and is only there to make recommandation of further actions to be taken by the powers that be. She must not be allowed to be the law onto herself and she must be accountable to the executives! We do not want to go back to the Scorpions era where people use hollywood tactics and issue out judgments through the media without people having their day in court! That notion was defeated in Polokwane and i would appriciate a revisit to the clause governing the PP office come Mangaung next year!

      Marion - 2011-12-08 08:40

      @Phumezo - thanks for reminding us about that but there will always be idle speculation about whether someone is guilty of something or not. The media releases info and the public speculates. That's why it is called the court of public opinion. And the speculation of some will be right, some will be almost right and the rest will be way off and claim there has been a cover up or something 'cos the outcome doesn't fit in with what they thought it should be. That's life and all public / prominent individuals are at risk of it happening. Such prominent individuals are more than happy to take the good press, but not so happy to take the bad press.

      Peter - 2011-12-08 08:46

      What you say makes sense Phumezo, but the spread of news and transparency is critical in our democracy. The PP must stay within her boundaries, sure, but lets always hear the truth. How much of this info would be deemed "secret" under the info bill, if it is passed.

      Marion - 2011-12-08 09:10

      @Peter - on the subject of the info bill, if you are interested you can go 'sign' the Avaaz petition at : . Obviously so can anyone else who feels very strongly about it. So far they have more than 62 000 signatures and still accepting signatures.

  • Samuel - 2011-12-08 09:43

    Shoking when people start doing thier work "I was certainly not expecting her to play the 'connections' card."

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