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No SA visa for TB Joshua - ANCYL

2014-09-23 12:53

Johannesburg - The government should not issue a visa to Nigerian preacher TB Joshua, the ANC Youth League said on Tuesday.

"TB Joshua should not be allowed to come to South Africa until we know what happened to our fellow countrymen at his church," spokesperson Bandile Masuku said in a statement.

"We will make sure we engage with the department of international relations and co-operation to make sure they do not issue him with a South African visa."

Around 115 people, including 84 South Africans, were killed and dozens trapped when the multi-storey guesthouse attached to the Synagogue Church of All Nations, run by Joshua, collapsed on Friday, 12 September.

About 350 South Africans were thought to be visiting the church, in the Ikotun neighbourhood of Lagos, at the time.

Joshua, one of Nigeria's best-known evangelical preachers referred to by followers across the world as "The Prophet" or "The Man of God", on Sunday pledged to travel to South Africa to meet the survivors and their families.

On Monday morning, a plane carrying 25 South Africans injured in the collapse arrived at the Swartkop Air Force Base in Pretoria. Social workers received two South African toddlers, aged 18 months and two years, orphaned by the collapse.

Another child, aged 6, was also part of the group of injured South Africans that arrived from Nigeria.

Acting Cabinet spokesperson Phumla Williams said the three children were in good hands.

Comments
  • David Van Schalkwyk - 2014-09-23 12:56

    I am probably going to regret this but OMG I agree with something the ANCYL said... SSSSSHHHHH don't tell anyone I said that...

      John Smith - 2014-09-23 12:58

      Toemaar ek ook......

      Beaulah Fortuin - 2014-09-23 13:18

      It takes a real man to give credit to his enemy.

      Jon Hing - 2014-09-23 13:24

      I'll keep your secret if you keep mine ..... I also agree with them this time O-o....

      David Van Schalkwyk - 2014-09-23 13:41

      We all going to hell for sure....LOLOLOLOL

      Ria Cook - 2014-09-23 14:04

      We have enough false prophets of our own - promising being "a better life for all", houses and jobs ....

      mihlali.meji - 2014-09-23 17:25

      That's good David sometimes we need to put aside what we feel about particular groups as well others and cruelly listen to what they have to say

  • Khutso Bokaba - 2014-09-23 12:58

    Dalai Lama versus TB Joshua...

      DocAni - 2014-09-23 13:01

      I prefer TB Joshua.

      Brian Marumo - 2014-09-23 13:46

      Jezebel your head needs some checking.

      DerekMain - 2014-09-23 13:54

      Exactly! Why not issue a visa? Do the Chinese not approve?

      Sonnyboy Mathebula - 2014-09-23 14:24

      nooooo we dont want him with his Ebola

  • Martin van der Merwe - 2014-09-23 12:58

    For once I agree with them!!

      Brian Marumo - 2014-09-23 15:52

      I hate to admit it too... However, I highly doubt it was uncle Gweezy's idea.

  • Apostle Steven Chiadzwa - 2014-09-23 12:59

    I support the ANCYL for this important stance, false prophets must be kept out of the country.

      Jabu Mthembu - 2014-09-23 13:01

      viva

      Deeked De Dose - 2014-09-23 13:05

      Then Ray Kreepy Krauly, Theo Wollymonster and the rest should be thrown out as well... Have we got any true prophets in SA?

      Pieter Calitz - 2014-09-23 13:17

      Well, we can do the bible test on them.. He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you." Matthew 17:20 If a prophet cannot do this then it means he is a false prophet.

      Made-In SA - 2014-09-23 13:28

      Talking about false prophets.Will the promise of 5 million jobs over 5 years come true?

      Eric Moneyvalu - 2014-09-23 13:40

      The Bible says that Prophets must be tested to see if they true. Come here Apostle Steven lets test you. Most pastors nowdays need the fivefold Ministry. One fat open handed clap.

      Tugwana - 2014-09-23 14:22

      @Apostle Steven, if you are an apostle for real shame on you. You are standing alongside atheists and sinners joining the chorus to discredit TB Joshua. You are jealous cos God never used you to heal even single sick person with a simple headache nor cast out evil spirits. The only thing you envious pastors is to collect 10% of one's income, nothing else. You curse those who don't give theirs. It seems to me you are the real false one.

      Jon Hing - 2014-09-23 15:17

      @made in SA No sorry, they were dyslexic when they "prophesied". It's 5 jobs in 5 million years

      Sterling Ferguson - 2014-09-23 17:48

      Only a few years ago South Africans were all over Nigeria now, you want to stop a black prophet from visiting SA? TB Joshua, TD Jake and Valdomori are the only black prophets living today.

  • MoAfrica Lebowa - 2014-09-23 13:00

    ANCYL should know that some of us are ready to lay our life's for Prophet Joshua.

      fred.amanaha - 2014-09-23 13:03

      Then go to Nigeria and die in the collapsed building you nitwits!!!

      Made-In SA - 2014-09-23 13:29

      @MoAfrica.You first.

      Jabu Joseph Soko - 2014-09-23 13:55

      is giving away your life for another human being even christian related? I guess i need a new bible, it seems as if this tubercolosis guy has came with his new version.

  • DocAni - 2014-09-23 13:03

    Just climb the fence Prophet, if they dont want to let you in.

      Faith Sabelo - 2014-09-23 13:23

      as annoying as you are I had to laugh at this comment....lol

      Beaulah Fortuin - 2014-09-23 13:29

      Yes let your prophet do illegal stupid stuff, seeing that he's such a good man of God.

      Made-In SA - 2014-09-23 13:29

      Or marry a SA woman,like many Nigerians do.

      Jon Hing - 2014-09-23 13:41

      ..... so we can arrest and deport him for entering illegally.

      johan.nel.712 - 2014-09-23 15:05

      You're a so called Christian and you don't even know that you should abide by the laws of the country according to the Bible, or, are you nothing more than a prophet of the darkness? According to your remarks you and TB Joshua are in the same camp, the camp of darkness otherwise called satan

  • DocAni - 2014-09-23 13:03

    Just climb the fence Prophet, if they dont want to let you in.

  • DocAni - 2014-09-23 13:03

    Just climb the fence Prophet, if they dont want to let you in.

      Nceba Mbane - 2014-09-23 13:26

      Being the crook and embezzlement that he is, Im sure he will.

  • Marie Hamilton - 2014-09-23 13:04

    No visa for this money grabber!!!!

  • Tinavo Dube - 2014-09-23 13:04

    he shouldn't be granted a visa to come to South Africa because he is a fake. Joshua is stbon he refused to cooperate with the South African investigators when they went to Nigeria they were refused access to the collapsed building. to hell with him

  • Itumeleng Pitsoane - 2014-09-23 13:05

    he is nigerian after all he will be here arent they all here anyway, him coming here will change just about nothing sham... on second thoughts let him come then he will know what true colours are,

  • Tumi Motlatla - 2014-09-23 13:06

    It's been a century since we hear something sensible from ANCYL, but damn they are on point this time around. And you DrAnita, ANCYL are more entitled than you to comment on this matter, this is not Nigeria my friend.

  • Solomon Repeant - 2014-09-23 13:06

    if he delay the issue of people to be resceud why follow them here?

  • Lucky Tiva - 2014-09-23 13:06

    Is the youth league still in existence?

      Sydney Albertus Daniel - 2014-09-24 22:31

      Unfortunately...but they're pushing the age of 40 now. So I don't understand why they're called the youth league???

  • Liz Rudy - 2014-09-23 13:07

    Never thought I would live to see the day that I actually agree on something with the ANCYL. Keep this fake prophet out of the country - the only thing he will be doing here is fleecing more people

  • Mukanya - 2014-09-23 13:07

    They should issue him with a VISA and arrest him on arrival. These prophets of doom are causing so much suffering in Africa. If it is his building that collapsed then the man must answer to murder charges or culpable homicide charges. Why didnt he forsee that his building was not safe?

  • Solomon Repeant - 2014-09-23 13:09

    people under the ramble him preaching on the sunday before he cares for the lifes of those injured

  • Terence Brian Martin - 2014-09-23 13:12

    One word for most of these "prophets" that make millions every year.....charletons. If i remember correctly one should one have the money to put a roof over your head and have food the rest should be given to the church, not according to these "prophets" who live lavish lives while their congregation hand them money willingly, suppose an idiot is born everyday. Seems they do live with the motto after offerings occur, they throw the money up in the sky , anything that remains in the sky belongs to god the rest belongs to them(TB, joyce, benni and the list goes on)

  • Isaac Modise Masiu - 2014-09-23 13:12

    TB Joshua is not coming to you guys he will come to his followers leave him alone. You will be shocked he have millions of following here at home so focus in Nkandla , Gupta's , Mabe cases and so forth , hands off him.

      The Illuminated One - 2014-09-23 13:34

      The blind leading the blind... I hope is going to give out limbs to the followers who lost them at his church? Or he might wake the dead ?

      Tugwana - 2014-09-23 14:26

      All of a sudden it's shocking to see ordinary racists pretend as if they cared for those who died. They don't and they did. The only obsession is with TB Joshua for he is a man of God and they have the spirit of lucifer. Light and darkness don't mix.

  • Anton Visser - 2014-09-23 13:13

    I agree he is money hungry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Terence Brian Martin - 2014-09-23 13:13

    a Visa to a charleton but no visa to the Dalai Lama

      Sterling Ferguson - 2014-09-23 17:51

      What is the difference?

  • Jim Fana Buffel - 2014-09-23 13:13

    Who are you to jugde someonelse servant, are you a jugde apostle or apostle of peace

  • Amelia Goodwin - 2014-09-23 13:14

    For the first time ever I have to agree with ANCYL. Do not issue a visa to TB Joshua. The man is opportunistic and wishes to seek glory in the face of this terrible tragedy.

  • Rey Mandla Mgidi - 2014-09-23 13:19

    He couldn't even foresee that the building was going to collapse, like he always claim that he can foresee things before they happen.....ANCYL...You have my vote on that....Even his fellow countrymen are not very fond of him....NO VISA!!!

      Mzimasi Magadlela - 2014-09-23 13:25

      he should be absolutely denied the visa

      Thapelo Daniel Mohotsi - 2014-09-24 01:51

      You fight TB Joshua, you are fighting his followers and they are in great numbers, millions of us here in RSA and millions all over the world

  • Anna Ramorara - 2014-09-23 13:20

    Don`t worry prophet, Juju`ll organize for you, you are more than welcome, bring oom Mugabe saam

  • Dawn Atkinson - 2014-09-23 13:20

    OMG! for the first time EVER, I agree with you guys!! He is a con man of the 1st degree! Only guilty conscience is making him come here, he must keep face or he will lose all the money these poor delusional people are giving him! WHY did he not want the rescuers and aid workers who on the scene earlier to get access to the building and try and help???? Because he had something to hide! Creton!

  • Christopher Booise - 2014-09-23 13:21

    LOL!!! He should come cast out some devils and demons out of the ANC & ANCYL.

      Nnamdi Kalu - 2014-09-23 13:24

      thats current bonise the ANC and ANCYL need some deliverance they are the cost of all this

  • Lungisani Memela - 2014-09-23 13:22

    Amaaandla!

  • Francis Mthembu - 2014-09-23 13:22

    Can only be welcome if he comes with the dead having been risen or else he is a persona non grata....TB do not test the people, stay away

  • Matamela Nkwana - 2014-09-23 13:22

    Next,no more Nigerian churches in SA this blood suckers.

      Angelo Magalhaes - 2014-09-23 16:08

      Well said Mtamela Nigerians to NIgeria ,.

  • Francis Mthembu - 2014-09-23 13:23

    Can only be welcome if he comes with the dead having been risen or else he is a persona non grata....TB do not test the people, stay away

  • Joshua Mokgothu - 2014-09-23 13:23

    le agafa le na ma ANC le hlanya ka kudu

  • Vukani Dlamini - 2014-09-23 13:23

    definately no.that man has evil spirits mxxm conning people.more trobles wiil follow if he is given visa.

  • DocAni - 2014-09-23 13:25

    I cannot wait for the Prophet to visit South Africa. He is kind and humble, pure and God fearing. He is a man of God. Give him permanent access to South Africa.

      Nnamdi Kalu - 2014-09-23 13:27

      Dr Anite u are rite he deserve a citizenship here in SA am also looking ahead of meeting him here welcome man of God

      Ash - 2014-09-23 13:29

      Brainless IDOITS that can not think for yourselves one word for u 2 SHEEEEEP MAAAAAAAAAAh

      Clive Pops - 2014-09-23 13:32

      Doctor se gat!

      Ash - 2014-09-23 13:38

      More like a manipulative, thieving,Fraudster, that gets idiots like u to believe he's bull, so sad to see we have such a poor standard of education in SA

      Piet Potgieter - 2014-09-23 18:50

      Jezebel, the name of the false prophetess of Rev 2:20. The name befits you, however your title is quite amusing.

      Chedza RT Nyadzani - 2014-09-23 23:30

      I cnt wait to see the man of god; satan and his followers r going to b so disappointed

  • Mputumi Sikova - 2014-09-23 13:25

    Fake prophets, and then what are you going to do ANCYL after.

  • Erna Speed Glitterbug - 2014-09-23 13:26

    Bandile Masuku, I fully agree with your statement. Its justified.

  • Bradley Clarke-Mcleod - 2014-09-23 13:27

    wow all the racist and anti religious comments makes one proud to be South African, The ANCYL have no idea and cannot hold this man responsible for a building collapsing WTF he wants to come and visits the injured South African worshippers? where are the visitors from the government and the ANCYL? cant they find a voice to add value now that Julius has left?

  • Phillip Sithole - 2014-09-23 13:27

    The pastor has got nothing to do with that accident i think he loves his followers

  • Zweli Mlindeni Madlopha - 2014-09-23 13:29

    this ancyl is talking sh*t if u not a Christian u little busted go to hell and praise uo demons there, u not representing us u jst talking ts or ur personal interest who voted for u to talk such nonsense about the men of Gob ideot...

      Ash - 2014-09-23 13:31

      maaaaaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaaaa

      Jabu Joseph Soko - 2014-09-23 13:39

      your tone contradicts your christianity, but who can blame you?. You are one of his(JOSHUA) graduates. It goes to show that you and him are an excuse human beings

      Ash - 2014-09-23 13:52

      Jabu more like another one of he's brainless sheep not graduates

      Angelee Botha - 2014-09-23 14:52

      You are right when you say "Men of Gob" !!!!! Bwahaha what a Freudian slip.

  • Jabu Joseph Soko - 2014-09-23 13:29

    yes he must be denied the visa. The guy is going to come here with his bodyguards and some kind of ebola infected nigerians. Come on those who want to see him they must go to lagos, but be advised. Get a hard hat(makarabha), cause things just fall in lagos.

      Wale Oguns - 2014-09-23 13:58

      We agree that things just fall in Lagos like you said but there's one thing I'm so sure of and its the fact that such statement can only be made by someone who lives in a shack in SA,figure that out.

  • Rudzani Culture Mudau - 2014-09-23 13:31

    I thought the pastor is already in Dungeon!!!

  • Helen Sanya - 2014-09-23 13:31

    Who are these thugs to determine who gets what!?

  • iiafrica - 2014-09-23 13:32

    TB is welcome is SA, ANCYL sounds like the demon possessed man in the bible who told Jesus, leave us alone...lol, Demons are so scared for the anointing, what they don't know is the anointing is everywhere is SA. Please be careful how u judge a man of God, don't touch God's anointed. The building collapsed, it sounds like people are blaming the prophet for that, it was an engineering issue, not a prophet TB issue...grow up people, all of a sudden TB's money and status etc is under question. The World is crazy...lol

      Christina Setloboko - 2014-09-23 14:45

      Well he is definitely fake and definitely not anointed " if anointed he is anointed by the devil himself and nothing will happen to me for saying that because he is not the man of God, but the devil. GOD himself have exposed him for what he is " evil"

      iiafrica - 2014-09-23 17:58

      How does a man of God look like? Give scriptural reference and measure him up to that.

  • iiafrica - 2014-09-23 13:32

    TB is welcome is SA, ANCYL sounds like the demon possessed man in the bible who told Jesus, leave us alone...lol, Demons are so scared for the anointing, what they don't know is the anointing is everywhere is SA. Please be careful how u judge a man of God, don't touch God's anointed. The building collapsed, it sounds like people are blaming the prophet for that, it was an engineering issue, not a prophet TB issue...grow up people, all of a sudden TB's money and status etc is under question. The World is crazy...lol

      Marie Hamilton - 2014-09-23 13:49

      My version of a man of God is a person that preachers without gaining riches in the process. A true man of God would not take for himself but help those in need! He is stinking rich because of his false prophecy! Just my opinion!

  • iiafrica - 2014-09-23 13:32

    TB is welcome is SA, ANCYL sounds like the demon possessed man in the bible who told Jesus, leave us alone...lol, Demons are so scared for the anointing, what they don't know is the anointing is everywhere is SA. Please be careful how u judge a man of God, don't touch God's anointed. The building collapsed, it sounds like people are blaming the prophet for that, it was an engineering issue, not a prophet TB issue...grow up people, all of a sudden TB's money and status etc is under question. The World is crazy...lol

      iiafrica - 2014-09-23 18:00

      Blind? Oh ja blind

      iiafrica - 2014-09-23 18:00

      Blind? Oh ja blind

      Ntanga Hadzhi - 2014-09-23 20:54

      I also dnt understand how the collapse was Tb Joshua's fault,i mean the guy is not an engineer,nobody is saying anything abt the engineers

  • Nnamdi Kalu - 2014-09-23 13:32

    who are u to stop Goes elect even the ANC it sele will not stop him of visiting SA since when the ANCYL blame dept of home affairs

  • The Illuminated One - 2014-09-23 13:33

    Another criminal who wants to hide in our Criminal Nest

  • Lawrie Sathekge - 2014-09-23 13:37

    Ke kwa ba re o nyaka go kgopela tshwarelo.Ga a ye go kgopela tshwarelo go Modimo

  • Nnamdi Kalu - 2014-09-23 13:38

    I repeat who are u to stop Gods servant even the ANc it self can not stop the man of God of coming to SA since when did the ANCYL became the dept of home affair

  • Bishop Jomo - 2014-09-23 13:39

    U ancyl u better talk abt TUT STRIKE NT TP JOSHUA.