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No condoms, we're Catholic - cardinal

2013-02-23 22:47

Johannesburg - No condoms would be distributed at schools built on Catholic Church property, according a report.

The Sunday Times reported that Cardinal Wilfred Napier, head of the church in SA, has dismissed the plan by the KwaZulu-Natal education department as "short-sighted" and "immoral".

Napier voiced his dissatisfaction about the move to curb teen pregnancies in a letter to Education MEC Senzo Mchunu.

Mchunu's decision followed a conference last month to find solutions to sexual abuse, teen pregnancy and substance abuse in the province.

"Once something is distributed by people in authority, children take it as an okay. I cannot understand the lack of insight into the psychological damage that is being done to the younger generation," Napier told the newspaper.

According to the newspaper Mchunu confirmed that condoms would not be distributed to Catholic schools.

"There are some public schools who have strong relations with Catholics. We well continue to talk to them, but we respect their beliefs as well."

Comments
  • Rohin - 2013-02-23 23:14

    what about the psychological damage of teenage pregnancies and STDs?

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-24 05:07

      Are you going to answer that question? The answer is that if you are abstinent you cannot get pregnant nor catch STDs.

      Rohin - 2013-02-24 09:46

      Womba, if I was a parent I'd rather pull my head out of the sand and accept tha fact that some kids as young as 12 are having sex. I' d rather have my child have sex safely if they are going to have sex.

      adele.kendall.16 - 2013-02-25 11:07

      Womba, good luck trying to teach a horny teenage to abstain.

      darren.raath.5 - 2013-02-25 14:29

      @robin-then obviously you wont/dont bring up your kids correctly.you are a bad parent believing that its ok for kids-as young as 12 -to have sex. its not ok for kids to screw around especially as young as 12. its people like youthat lead to the decay of society.

      george.frangs - 2013-02-25 15:41

      Thankfully you're most likely still a virgin darren.raath, we don't need more brainwashed zealots.

  • john.tex.395 - 2013-02-23 23:27

    Hope this does not apply in Africa please no ...

  • belnick - 2013-02-23 23:38

    Nicholas, WAKE UP!!! Tell the government to supply you with condoms! I think you need it big time.

      Francois Blom - 2013-02-23 23:39

      In-bloody-deed!!!!

      george.frangs - 2013-02-25 17:05

      What the hell is that supposed to mean?? We're not on the playground here. What does "I think you need it big time" mean? Are you encouraging him to be promiscuous? Or are you telling him to go tell the government to do something about it?

  • ChiefDavid - 2013-02-24 00:18

    May God help us and educate us so that we can educate children...sex is a good thing only for grown ups who are married.

      cathy.dejongh.5 - 2013-02-24 10:06

      I think you'd better start helping yourself because that particular being/sky-fairy/goosti-bastard/whatever is certainly not going to do a thing for anyone.

      cathy.dejongh.5 - 2013-02-24 10:20

      God will not help to educate you - you better start educating yourself

  • Thanduxolo Galada - 2013-02-24 00:20

    Yes, it is a controversial topic with the masses pushing for condom distribution. What the Cardinal is saying it that this will not be the approach in Catholic schools. You are welcome to respectfully disagree and be mature enough to accept the difference in beliefs. That is a pillar of a maturing democracy and trait of maturing adults.

      ateovero - 2013-02-24 09:04

      Thank you for translating the pure gibberish the Cardinal spewed. As a high-up in a cult who's main achievement for years has been covering up pedophilia by its own representatives, he should know better. And yes, I am being disrespectful because I am mature enough to acknowledge strange beliefs but refuse to respect that which cannot be defended.

      george.frangs - 2013-02-25 11:15

      But no matter what they say, kids are still going to have sex. You can drill into their heads that it's bad, 10000 times, and it will make no difference. If they want to have sex, they will, so rather let them be safe about it. Besides, the Catholic Church is not exactly the pillar of morality and virtue.

      patsy.smith.125 - 2013-02-25 19:57

      So, no condoms and lots of unwanted babies (because the church doesn't believe in abortion either. Is the Cardinal/church going to adopt these unwanted children? I DOUBT IT!

  • eugene.beyers.14 - 2013-02-24 00:33

    You guys heard of HIV/AIDS right ?

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-24 05:05

      HIV/Aids? The best prevention is, of course, abstinence. What the Catholic church sees as its number 1 option. It may not be your or my best option, but then we're not in the Catholic church. But "freedom" isn't ever an order to obediently do as I say; freedom means that you are allowed to make a very different choice to the one I choose to make from the wide range of options on offer.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2013-02-24 06:17

      Womba, "The best prevention......." Well, if you start talking like this, than let's at the same time stop the horrendous deaths, caused by car accidents, and take all cars of the road, and start walking , again !!!!

      Fred Landini - 2013-02-24 06:36

      Just take a shower!

  • Frank Opoku - 2013-02-24 00:35

    provide condoms for school childrens to do what.that person must apologize to the students because is an insult.

  • Bianca Binky Dicks - 2013-02-24 01:08

    They tell children in school not to have sex and they still go and do it. These days childen have a lot more knowledge about these things that we give them credit for. By giving condoms to schools they are not saying go a head and have sex, cause NEWS FLASH they are already doing it. Whould u rather have your child infected with some STD, worse case it being AIDS and pregnant at 16? Or would u rather have them be safe about it? Because there is no way u are going to stop them from having sex.

      Jesus - 2013-02-24 01:28

      But if they want to have sex they can go but their own!

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-24 05:13

      Or ask their parents to supply them. That's where they get their toilet paper from.

  • Peasant McPoor - 2013-02-24 01:27

    Stupidity in the highest! Even a good god would be shaking his,her,its, whatever head!

  • terry.palmer.562 - 2013-02-24 01:54

    Idiots!

  • Alan Street - 2013-02-24 03:06

    The more catholics, the more cash in the collection plate !

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-24 05:14

      Well, duhhh.... same applies to members of the local golf club.

      hugh.olphart - 2013-02-25 09:39

      Mother Theresa was a prime example of collecting millions of dollars for the church, but her patients lay in hovels on stretchers dyeing in barbaric conditions in Calcutta. The money she collected could have built many 5star world class hospitals. But nothing.

  • Martin Vass - 2013-02-24 03:12

    we can say whatever...children are not surpose 2 have sex. I blame the goverment 4 changing every law that takes away the right of the parent ,but give children the right 2 do whatever. the use of condoms is wrong...u can be a high priest or what...its wrong...so u guys wanna talk about pregnancies, hiv

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-24 05:14

      Parents have had no "rights" taken from them.

      Sakhile Makhathini - 2013-02-24 05:16

      Don't forget the constitutional court which said the NPA is wrong to arrest children for having sex. It is their right to have sex among themselves the 12 to 16 age group. Democracy has its good and bad side.

      Ditoa-re Gypsy - 2013-02-24 06:39

      As a parent, it is your right to raise your child the way you want to, as a parent, you are someone who has passed the stage of being 12-16, therefore you know the consequences of being expose to sex-life in that stage, that is why you don't want your child that you have undying love for to be exposed to sex-life at that stage. YES ATHEIST AND THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND MARTIN, THAT IS A RIGHT TAKEN AWAY FROM PARENTS

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2013-02-24 07:03

      Ditoa-re Gypsy, That is absolutely nonsence wehat you say! Nobody is taking any rights away from you. If you bring your child up, convicing him/her of not having sex before a certain age, that's fine! NOBODY is suggesting that your child MUST have sex. And the notion , that a child will have sex , just because there is a condom laying around, is a myth !! If a child wants to have sex,, he/she is going to, a condom available or not available!! If a child does not want to have sex, he/she is not going to, a condom available, or not available!!! SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM??

      george.frangs - 2013-02-25 11:30

      You want your kids to stop thinking about sex? Then make them stop watching TV, especially the Disney channel as that is what over-sexualising a lot of children right under their parents noses. But don't stop there, stop reading magazines, don't listen to music, don't look at billboards.

  • Francois Joubert - 2013-02-24 03:43

    lets shag! hope the condoms are strong enough

      george.frangs - 2013-02-25 13:25

      Let's arrange a good old fashioned medieval roman orgy! I'm sure the church would approve...

  • henry.vanderfartenburp - 2013-02-24 04:00

    This is why we can't have nice things

  • Tello Moleko - 2013-02-24 05:11

    child is child,parents should stop saying children nowadays for sex give him condoms,he taking drugs give him needle,yo child should know what u like nd dont like

      george.frangs - 2013-02-25 11:32

      I think what you're trying to say is, parents should be more open to there children and talk about sex, drugs and other issues that affect kids daily. People should stop being emabressed about it and just have frank conversations with there kids.

  • gary.gordon.961993 - 2013-02-24 05:20

    I'm old.... a dinosaur of a bygone age perhaps, but back in the dark ages of the 1940's and 50's there were these things called loving families. These "families" raised children by giving them love, attention and guidance and did not hand over cash to get kids out of their hair. Husbands and wives stayed together "for the sake of the children." as far as possible. The result was that the children grew up to be respectable adults. No condoms were needed because a sense of responsibilty and respect for women was taught from early on and the willies were kept behind the buttons (or zippers later). The children of today possibly bear the brunt of the blame for the poor quality of parenting they were given. Perhaps there are too many "strong independent women" around who believe that they don't need a man in their lives in order to have children. A single parent usually lacks the ability to properly rase a child because of all of the additional pressure of such a type of parenting. Grandparents often have to fulfill this function. Many of the children of today have now been raised with an inbuilt sense of entitlement and they usually expect to get what they want when they want it - and more often then not they are spoiled rotten. A child raised this way will want sex when they want it. This new breed of children views sexual promiscuity the same as they do Nintendo. It's a game. I think they should be given the the necessary protection to stop this single parent cycle.

      hugh.olphart - 2013-02-25 09:44

      They are still going to have sex, and if no condom; contract AID, or fall pregnant and have their lives destroyed. Times have changed, and I am also a relic from the past, and know that when our folk fell pregnant it was covered up. Sex has been around for let’s say 100 000 yrs, it’s not going to stop now.

  • dick.muller - 2013-02-24 05:33

    My God is the source of all love.. Those (organised religions) who utilise and manipulate God's love and word for their personal ends (and financial gain) are the source of much of the conflict and evil that mankind has endured over the ages. Read your bible. Gather in His honour at your homes and places of work. Speak often of His love. In all matters conduct yourself in His honour but STAY AWAY from church buildings raised and operated by arrogant people, intolerant of any who dispute THEIR self awarded "superior knowledge and understanding" of God's word and love..

      Amandlawhereto - 2013-02-24 06:52

      Dick, I suppose your solution to teenage pregnancy would be to pray to your God? Well start praying and we see in a few months how much that has helped!

      ateovero - 2013-02-24 09:16

      Which God is that? Zeus? Hades? Jupiter? Mars? Odin? Thor? Krishna? Vishnu? Ra?… of the thousands of Gods worshipped, which one is the true one? Religion - someone's wrong!

      WvdWesthuizen - 2013-02-24 19:05

      @ateovero: Aphrodite = Goddess of love? :)

      hugh.olphart - 2013-02-25 09:59

      Atheitis, well man has abandoned all those older gods. The slow progression to enlightenment, there’s just one left to abandon. The end is in sight. No more scare tactics; no more supernatural intervention or dictatorship. Soon hopefully we will be able to just enjoy the short time we have on this unstable crust we live on and enjoy its wonder for itself. Theres hope yet.

      george.frangs - 2013-02-25 11:33

      The virgin has spoken

  • Mammudi Makgaleng - 2013-02-24 05:43

    If we can learn to see where the problem comes from first, then we can be more productive in amending solutions. Teenage pregnancy will always be a nightmare, until that day our children learn to be responsible young adults. At school there is education and learning, not to have SEX. We can use schools to provide guidance on this issue, but not to promote immorality. Student practice sex at their own time, not at schools. So this need parents to play their part and not to shift responsibility to schools. Parental Guidnace is advised here.

  • gary.gordon.961993 - 2013-02-24 05:56

    I'm old.... a dinosaur of a bygone age perhaps, but back in the dark ages of the 1940's and 50's there were these things called loving families. These "families" raised children by giving them love, attention and guidance and did not hand over cash to get kids out of their hair. Husbands and wives stayed together "for the sake of the children." as far as possible. The result was that the children grew up to be respectable adults. No condoms were needed because a sense of responsibilty and respect for women was taught from early on and the willies were kept behind the buttons (or zippers later). The children of today possibly bear the brunt of the blame for the poor quality of parenting they were given. Perhaps there are too many "strong independent women" around who believe that they don't need a man in their lives in order to have children. A single parent usually lacks the ability to properly rase a child because of all of the additional pressure of such a type of parenting. Grandparents often have to fulfill this function. Many of the children of today have now been raised with an inbuilt sense of entitlement and they usually expect to get what they want when they want it - and more often then not they are spoiled rotten. A child raised this way will want sex when they want it. This new breed of children views sexual promiscuity the same as they do Nintendo. It's a game. I think they should be given the the necessary protection to stop this single parent cycle.

      george.frangs - 2013-02-25 11:35

      Lets stay together for the kids? That is just a prehistoric way of messing up your kids. My mom was a single parent, and I turned out fine. She IS a strong independant woman, who loved my sister and I to bits. You are old, and a dinosaur, and on your way out. Let us rather worry about these matters and you continue eating your steak through a straw "Oom".

  • Hloniphile Fakazi - 2013-02-24 06:09

    I love your idea Cardinal Wilfred because we as Catholics we encourage young girls to keep their Virginity like mother Marry because Sex outside of marriage creates bonds that tear apart people’s hearts instead of joining them together. *We don't need Condoms in our Catholic Schools* thank you

      anakin.skyvader.9 - 2013-02-24 12:43

      Who is mother Marry??

      ateovero - 2013-02-24 13:16

      Mother Marry -she's proof that Abstinence is not 100% safe.....

      cleve.fletcher - 2013-02-24 15:17

      @Hloniphile Fakazi: The girls are relatively safe, the catholic priestly appetite is for little boys....

      johan.mostert.967 - 2013-02-25 15:07

      "we encourage young girls to keep their Virginity" So that's why the priests target the young boys!

  • Leon Kisten - 2013-02-24 06:28

    This is flippn crap, I'm no catholic , not even religous but common sense will tell you that its not right. We cannot lead our lives by the laws set by these uneducated people who make laws that they can't follow themselves. I believe all our problems stem from easy access of every1 and any1 to porn etc. Our goverment doesn't have a backbone to be tough on any matter, not the criminals or naughty kids.only the innocent are penalised. Giving kids condoms is like giving all drivers bricks cos the goverment can't fix the potholes on our roads. So when you see a pothole just brick it and move on. Gov honestly you guys have no idea what yourl are doing. Its against all cultures in SA.

      hugh.olphart - 2013-02-25 10:06

      No Leon, kids are going to have sex either way. The majority are poor and impoverished, and can’t afford or too embarrassed to buy condoms. So by withholding them, you will only assist in exposing them to all the dangers of unprotected sex. There are countless teenage run families in this country, youngsters living in adults worlds. How can you reasonably deny them this? The church should be held accountable for these actions, its nothing more then genocide.

  • Amandlawhereto - 2013-02-24 06:30

    How absolutely absurd! Next we will hear that seat belts should be removed from cars because it encourages drivers to crash. Abstinence you say? Sure, we should all abstain from car crashes as well but they will still happen, just like teenage pregnancies. Hey, Cardinal Napier, it is 2013, get out of the dark ages, try and use common sense, logic and reason, this is just another case of an antiquated belief system that needs to be modernised. "short sighted" and "immoral"? Well what is the RCC solution to teenage pregancy, Cardinal?

  • Maria Ferreira - 2013-02-24 07:02

    I was born and raised catholic.. They need to change with the times. Too old fashion......

  • Maria Ferreira - 2013-02-24 07:03

    I was born and raised catholic.. They need to change with the times. Too old fashion......

  • Roy Chambal - 2013-02-24 07:07

    I have to 100% agree with Catholic Cardinal im one of those who still trapped in the 50s on this regard, how u go give kids condoms? u giving them freedom to have sex, u will not just give it to them u will give it and explain why u giving them, what us it for and surely they will want to experiment what they were told, so what u saying is okay for kids to have sex aslong as they use Condom- Kids need to be given education not Condoms, they need 2b educated not rush into having sex - some rules that come out of KZN are senseless to me, they removed School trips and some were not only exciting for the Kids but also educate them, why dnt they put tight road safety, trafic officials to be visible not hide beyond the bush wait for you to make mistake so they make money? why dont they ruther suggest School trip bus to be escorted by police? i mean they do it for me ministers and heavy expensive loads why not for kids?

      ingwe - 2013-02-24 09:00

      People are not born with a slot to switch on sexual conduct! A large number of children are already sexually active the need is to protect them from early pregnancy and STDs. Short of using physical restraints those children will and are finding a way. If they are protected more of the girls will get to Finnish their education and in so doing be able to make better life choices. These catholic schools are perhaps the same places that expell girls who fall pregnant instead of nurturing them?

      hugh.olphart - 2013-02-25 14:18

      So Roy, you think that education will stop sex? What’s the reality then? More people are now educated then in anytime in the history of this country. More men are rapists, more men are murderers. More children are family heads. Being so retarded to deny a kid, who is going to have sex no matter what your church says, to a possible HIV infection or pregnancy is better in your mind. How sick are you? How stupidly uninformed. Seriously get off this site, you are the weakest link, no actually one of the many.

  • anthony.o.ihejirika - 2013-02-24 07:16

    Cardinal please stick to your words!

      Thuso Wa Ga Pule - 2013-02-24 09:05

      I'm a catholic and i think church decision should be left alone, im sick and tired of people always questioning about our believe. the sad part is tht, we never question any believe

      ateovero - 2013-02-24 13:23

      Always question everything.

      hugh.olphart - 2013-02-25 14:20

      Thuso; my druid soothsayer told me that there was no jesus, who should I believe?

  • Miles Willemse - 2013-02-24 07:17

    Our mentality is challenged . We have to be very very active in our Kids Lifes , and not a mec who's solution is shortsighted .

  • Colin Arnold - 2013-02-24 07:19

    I was born and brought up in the Catholic faith.as children we were indoctrinated. Into unrealistic beliefs, which are archaeich. The Roman Catholic church preaches abstinence yet their leaders are the perpetrators of sodomy and other sexual crimes that are swept under the carpet. Rome and the pope are just puppets in a misguided setup

      Miles Willemse - 2013-02-24 07:32

      Is it the Whole Church,every Roman Catholic Priest ?

      LanfearM - 2013-02-24 08:08

      @ Miles Willemse - no of course its not every priest, yet the RCC as a whole covered up these crimes, just reassigned priests to other diocese instead of having them convicted of child rape and molestation. They RCC ruling body has been sweeping these atrocities under the carpet for centuries.

      ingwe - 2013-02-24 09:04

      And your schooling left you as you are? Bitter and twisted! Which of the crows left you as you are?

      ateovero - 2013-02-24 09:18

      I was born Atheist and brainwashed into Catholicism. I am now Atheist because I thought.

      Hudayfah Newman - 2013-02-24 09:38

      No you are atheist because you are lapping up what the likes of dawkins are feeding you. Jumping from theory to theory trying to explain how the world began. The other idiot claims it popped out from nowhere. Bereft of brains I tell ya.

      Lanfear - 2013-02-24 10:16

      @ Hudayfah - lol and you keep lapping up the myths and legends of a bronze age story as absolute truth! Jumping aroudn with hypothesis is what scientific inquiry does. You are the stupid one for not even knowing how scientific theories and hypothesis work.

      ateovero - 2013-02-24 11:41

      Hudayfa - you have been fed, and whats more, have eaten the tripe. Atheism by definition is the lack of belief. How on earth can that be fed? Theory by definition is the description of how facts may have occurred. Hypothesis is by definition a proposed definition. Fact is by definition something demonstated to exist. So for example, you are a moron (fact), because you have been fed iron age god hypothetical crap (Theory). Dawkins uses facts. You call the big bang idiotic. I suppose your deity popped out of nothing too. So you believe in a big bang of sorts also - by association you are an idiot.

      hugh.olphart - 2013-02-25 14:29

      Newman, you believe in myths and legends with no proof of existence, kiss the hand of a probable paedophile whilst eating a crumpet that has miraculously turned into the literal flesh of a human sacrifice, from a place called Nazareth that never existed and then dare use Dawkins' name in a sentence. Wow, now that’s ballzy.

  • Mufamadi Zwivhuya - 2013-02-24 07:26

    These kids knows where to get condoms they just don't wanna use it. Today life is all abt experimenting. I think the government need to start encouraging children to be more involve in sportin activities. Instead of buying flashy carz,renovating nkandla n other houses of government oficials why cnt they use that muni for building various sports ground for children to keep busy afta school. Obviously shows dis government doesn't care abt the poor. Their kids go to pvt school with a lots of sporting activities. God punish this people for destroyn children lyf.

      Miles Willemse - 2013-02-24 07:38

      So true Mufamadi ,where's the Pools and sporting facilties . They are building parks ,what does that encourage again ????

  • dale.thomas.5895 - 2013-02-24 07:36

    Am J Public Health. 1994 Dec;84(12):1952-9. Do some research cardinal man. Blind conviction is dangerous.

  • Nokuthula Ligwa-Halom - 2013-02-24 07:39

    Would you give yr 12 year old condoms together with her lunch box, i definitely agree with the Bishop.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2013-02-24 15:49

      . There really is no point in dramatising this issue. Most readers , surely, are talking about boys and girls in the 14/15/16 age group. You have a right to do everything in your power, to prevent your children to be sexually active. But you DO NOT have the right, to endanger the lives of other children !!! So , Yes, condoms should be available at schools.

  • Ditoa-re Gypsy - 2013-02-24 07:50

    If you can't do your job, why pushing it to other (to do it the other way)? Its suppose to be a teachers job to teach about sex and the their lessons they should have tought kids to stay away from sex but they failed to do so. 1). you can't build your house on top of a bridge and join insurance just incase of floods, 2). Only a DUMBDEST can compare a school and a river(to say you need lifejacket) or a car (to say you need seatbelt incase of accident). 3). Kids and all human beings need to learn about everything and also know when to practice it, (if your teacher is a failure we will see you by going to hospital and practising to be a Doctor just after 1st year at medical school). I learned a lot about guns about 17years ago they were so interesting even to different types of them, but because the person who was teaching was good, till now I haven't reach a state of needing or using one because no matter how interesting they are. I still know the consequences of handling a gun

      george.frangs - 2013-02-25 11:45

      It's the teachers job to teach YOUR children about sex? I think we may have just found another nominee for WORST, LAZIEST parent of the year! PS, its your responsibilty to tech your children these things...

  • anele.mveku - 2013-02-24 07:55

    Education is the only weapon that we can use to change the world. Teach them abstainance nd for those who dnt learn give them condoms. Hopefully they are going to use them.

  • witness.sombhane - 2013-02-24 08:04

    Myb God shouldnt have made sex so pleasurable...it would have stoped all this rape and teenage pregnancy cause obviously he knows he created imperfect beings and they are exploiting the weakness in him...jst an opinion though.

      Miles Willemse - 2013-02-24 08:17

      God never encouraged under age sex . Multi partners . Our own elected President had a child out of Wedlock , had sex with a HIV girl (daughters friend) , did he know about condoms YES! He had a Shower . How soon we forget !

  • Gareth Deeble - 2013-02-24 08:09

    The only thing that is immoral is this article is the catgolic church ( nothing but a buch of hypocrits)

      Gavin Burger - 2013-02-24 08:57

      Agreed, but we have to admit, this is a balancing act. By giving the Kids condoms, we could be promoting under age sex, but not giving the already sexually active kids condoms, we could be promoting unwanted pregnancies. Instead of depending on the school system to teach our kids about sex, STD's and so on, we should as parents take on that responsibility, it's too easy to blame the education system for failure.

  • Willie Olivier - 2013-02-24 08:19

    This cardinal wants to be pope! HaHa!

  • Steven Macheke - 2013-02-24 08:24

    sorry to say this but this cardinal is short sited, generations r different he has to adjust to this changes. they don't believe in condoms thats why his church has a past of sexual abuse against young boys.

      Madikana-Eutos Ephraim Jnr Mathedimosa - 2013-02-24 14:56

      Lol@Steven wats condoms got to do with sexual abuse of boys?

  • ingwe - 2013-02-24 08:27

    Let the catholic church pay rates and taxes on these properties!

  • Steven Macheke - 2013-02-24 08:31

    these r people who tell patients to stop taking their ARV's god will heel them and when things go wrong to patients they say they r not tru believers, then sends them back to hospital when is to late and wants the hospitals to fix their damage.

      Madikana-Eutos Ephraim Jnr Mathedimosa - 2013-02-24 14:54

      There is no such in da catholic church,coz I has brought mobile clinics to several villages in limpopo whr ppl cn go n collect the ARVs

  • Willie Olivier - 2013-02-24 08:31

    I am not catholic, so I am not interrested in what any cardinal,priest or pope has to say!

      Lanfear - 2013-02-24 08:53

      Unfortunately there's millions that listen to the RCC.

  • Trevor Moller - 2013-02-24 08:33

    @Steven what the hell has condoms got to do with sexual abuse to young boys man oh man oh man trash comments like that is what makes this social medium a laugh

      Gavin Burger - 2013-02-24 09:02

      Trevor, I agree with you completely, some people just have nothing better to do but talk rubbish. I am starting to get tired with these IM's, Social Media and Social Messaging platforms, what happened to old fashioned reading of newspapers, oh wait, the youth of today can't read. Old School rules.

      Lanfear - 2013-02-24 09:50

      @ Gavin Burger - so what are you doing here?

      george.frangs - 2013-02-25 11:47

      Yeah, such a pity that social media has provided a platform for moronic numbskulls like Gavin Burger to tell how much he hates social media by moaning about it on a social media platform. How dare they!! Oh old school irony rules.

  • Melcom Brandon Smit - 2013-02-24 08:35

    The only person being shortsighted here is you... You can spend hours teaching the teenagers to hold out on sexual activity, but the sad truth is that there will always be those who choose to be sexually active. At least they are given the tools and information to do it safely. Would you rather they transmit STD's, and get pregnant?

      Jango Shep - 2013-02-24 08:54

      Do you really believe that the rapists and raunchy males are going to go out and buy condoms when he sees the opportunity?

      Jango Shep - 2013-02-24 08:54

      Do you really believe that the rapists and raunchy males are going to go out and buy condoms when he sees the opportunity?

      Melcom Brandon Smit - 2013-02-24 09:03

      No, they won't - but firstly, we are not talking about rapists here. Secondly, when given condoms, they have it available. Some may still not use it, but at least they will have it available.

  • freddy.vanwijk - 2013-02-24 08:36

    It will not be long before Cardinal Wilfred Napier gets the infamous award in a sunday newspaper "Mampara Of The Week Award". He is short- sighted and immoral. There are fundemental reasons why condoms are being planned for distribution by the Kwazulu-Natal Education Department and generally speaking also in workplaces.

  • ateovero - 2013-02-24 08:49

    Very evil for an immoral iron age cult to ban the use of a modern disease and birth control device. Possibly the Cardinal Sin should do as the infallible pope, soon to be fallible again, and pull out early - preferably from South Africa. And yes, I called them a cult. Billions of followers make a cult a religion, but it intrinsically remains a cult.

  • Rollingstone Kanyane - 2013-02-24 08:57

    what are chidren doing with condoms in the schoo premises Mr Mchununu?

  • sunce.bradley - 2013-02-24 09:10

    Sure Mr. Napier, why give them condoms when teenage pregnancy and STD are so much better.

  • habeus.corpus - 2013-02-24 09:12

    Condemn condoms and condone child abuse amongst catholic clergy- that is fact!

  • Tiaan Liebenberg - 2013-02-24 09:17

    thanks moderator - now go play outside

  • Jango Shep - 2013-02-24 09:19

    Catholic or not, read Genesis 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply and replenish the earth! (Maybe He saw His mistake in Adam and Eve, then gave Noah the o.k. to go ahead and multiply, - hoping that the human race would self destruct!) P.S. Catholics are not the ANC - they don't change rules!!

      ateovero - 2013-02-24 11:56

      Read in a book (LOR) that Gandalf died for us when he fought the Balrog and made a comeback (reincarnation) to save (middle) earth. No way would he ok self destruction. Catholic morals, like the ANC, did change the rules - by allowing incest using maths (multiply) and now pushing against condom use.

      Madikana-Eutos Ephraim Jnr Mathedimosa - 2013-02-24 15:12

      Ever heard of Sex b4 marriage is SIN?

      george.frangs - 2013-02-25 11:50

      Ever heard that molesting a child is a sin?? The catholic church is not exactly the pillar of virtue and morality...

  • Jason Lok - 2013-02-24 09:19

    respect ther beliefs, in what ?? a condom!! se vir hulle--los d kondome en Bou d nasie