No connection between Spear vandals - lawyer

2012-05-22 22:44

Johannesburg - The lawyer for one of the two men arrested for vandalising a controversial painting of President Jacob Zuma at the Goodman Gallery said on Tuesday that there was no connection between the two.

Artist Brett Murray's depiction of Zuma, with his private parts exposed, was defaced with red and black paint, obscuring the face and waist of the figure.

A third person was arrested later for apparently trying to spray the word "respect" on a wall of the gallery.

The men were released on bail of R1 000 each and will appear in the Hillbrow Magistrate's Court on Wednesday.

All three were charged with malicious damage to property.

Krish Naidoo, representing Lowie Mabokela, who smeared black paint over the portrait, said his client is a taxi driver from Limpopo and had come to Johannesburg to see the portrait.

He said there was no connection between Mabokela and the second man - who has not yet been named - who painted a red cross over Zuma's face and genitals.

"It was spontaneous on both their parts, they just happened to be there at the same time," said Naidoo.

"His family members are involved in art. He drove all the way from Limpopo to see the portrait for himself and that's his reason for being here," he said.

Naidoo said Mabokela had laid charges of assault against the security guard who apprehended him at the gallery.

"We've asked the police to consider arresting the security guard. We are considering taking civil action against the gallery for the assault," said Naidoo.

Gallery closed

The arrests came within an hour of the South Gauteng High Court in Johannesburg setting down an application by the ANC to have the painting removed from the gallery for hearing by a full Bench on Thursday morning.

The application had just been postponed when word spread that the painting The Spear , part of Murray's exhibition Hail to the Thief II, had been defaced.

The gallery has now removed the painting saying it has been taken "to a safe location pending the court case".

It also temporarily closed its doors to the public, amid safety concerns

Gallery owner Liza Essers said the move was prompted by numerous threats and the defacing.

"The extent of the rage has astonished me and upset me very much," she said.

Essers said the painting had generated a debate that clearly engaged with important legal and constitutional issues.

"I furthermore never imagined that this debate would transform into harmful physical action," she said.

"This is over and above questions of political power, which formed part of its original dialogue."

The gallery said it had recognised how "incredibly divided" the country has become about the issues this controversy had raised.

"We are thankful for the support that we have received so far and also reiterate that we did not anticipate the harm that has been caused, or the offence that has been taken," said Essers.

"We have decided to do this [temporarily shut its doors] as we feel that the Goodman Gallery, its staff, as well as public visitors are at risk."

  • Twentyfivemay - 2012-05-22 22:56

    Ja, u better shut ur doors

      rowen.loretz - 2012-05-22 23:18

      still pictures all over the web...are you gonna shut down the interweb too? LOL

      docjimmie - 2012-05-23 04:38

      its ironical that stupid gallery would exhort having a painting of that nature.I wonder if the would feel the same at FW DE KLERKS nude paintings hanging next to Zuma's

      Kolobe - 2012-05-23 06:28

      clearly the public wanted the painting down

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-23 07:23

      Agreed, This Gallery must pay for this insult,

      Marion - 2012-05-23 08:10

      If the gallery had just removed the painting when requested then all this could have been avoided. I cannot believe that the gallery owner is so out of touch with South Africans that she didn't anticipate the furor that this painting would cause. Like him or hate him JZ was put into power by many more millions than those who opposed his appointment as president. Shortsighted of her to say the least.

      Pieter - 2012-05-23 08:46

      @Tamaranui - Insult to whom? Neither the person in the painting nor the color of the person can be positively identified from the painting.

      Marion - 2012-05-23 10:15

      @just_my_2cents - did either the gallery or the artist at any point dispute the point that it was JZ depicted in the painting when the furore started?

  • sally.lewitt - 2012-05-22 22:57

    What I found extremely disturbing was the violence afflicted on Mabokela at the hands of the security guard.. This was utterly uncalled for!! \r\nSuch brutality makes me shudder more than the Spear painting..

      Rupesh - 2012-05-22 23:05

      I was wondering if I was the only one who noticed that. That was disgusting.

      jennifer.crocker.165 - 2012-05-22 23:08

      It's weird Sally I see violent action but I keep watching it again and again and it's hard to see physical contact actually taking place, and the way the white guy leavee, while an apparent bystander calls out that he is the one who did it. I think it was a flashmob but whose flashmob and why I can't work out

      John - 2012-05-22 23:19

      WOW Sally...... please don't get so emotional. Suspect resists the arrest and Security guard used the all necessary power to detain him. Sorry for the missing title "Viewer discretion is advised"

      sally.lewitt - 2012-05-22 23:24

      This man was NOT resisting arrest.. They should arrest the security guard and charge him!

      sally.lewitt - 2012-05-23 00:29

      Go take your Meds Mister Bang.. I SAW what I SAW and have excellent vision and yes, I will go hug a tree if it suits me but get one thing straight, I'm NO Banbi basher or vandal basher either..

      Ntshobs - 2012-05-23 02:44

      @JevonMarshallJohnson quit NYAOPE and watch footage again and you will see no resistance from the young man.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-05-23 05:57

      Mister.Bang.Tidy, Sally is quite right. This security THUG should be arrested. What don't you like about that ?? Is it spoiling your "fun" ?? On some international TV channels, as much time was spend showing the defacing of this picture, as that of the unacceptable behavior of that security rubbish. Or, is sudenly violence acceptable ???

      sithembiso.mazibuko1 - 2012-05-23 07:22

      I totally agree with sally, i watched the footage a few times and at no point did the man resist arrest but the security gaurd proceeded to use unnecessary force on the man for no reason. why didn't the security use the same force or tactic on the other suspect?

      Alf - 2012-05-23 07:33

      They learn from the SAPS!

      Msika - 2012-05-23 07:41

      @sally.lewitt, The likes of mister.bang.tidy and all those who gave your comment a thumb down are as dumb as that security guy. This is not even up for debate, the guy was clearly not resisting arrest, why headbutt him? @mister.bang.tidy I just wonder if you would have posted the same (untidy) comment had it been the white man insulted by the security guy?

      Marion - 2012-05-23 08:15

      @sally - you are quite correct. There were two security guards with Mabokela and between them they could have restrained him quite easily. No excuse for the security guard to head-butt him. Even throwing him to the floor was over the top when he could have just called for assistance from other security guards. The guy wasn't armed and dangerous.

  • Gavin - 2012-05-22 22:59

    No connection at all ? REALLY ??? And yet people still don't believe you when you tell them that Father Christmas and the Easter Bunny are real.

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-05-23 14:14

      yep have to agree more especially when it comes from the mouth of a lawyer.

  • netswera.livhuwani - 2012-05-22 23:02

    Came on Liza, in which country do you live? We are more divided than you think. When people like you come up with controversial paintings we always pray it won’t be the last straw to civil war. Wakeup this is South Africa not Britain. Here we live in fear; there is democracy only on paper. The next thing you will be surprised at is a bullet through you car windscreen, ask NPA they will tell u how sick we are here in this country.

      Blip - 2012-05-22 23:28

      Civil war over a painting? Take your meds.

      Dee - 2012-05-22 23:35

      Indeed .... the only surprise is how out of tune they stayed to the raging emotions on the topic. Sensitivity & sensibility in non-1st world, multi-cultural society surely overrides a confrontational see-you-in-court-to-defend-my-constitutional-rights approach. Quietly removing brochures and shipping the painting to Germany last Friday would have been a win-win for gallery and South Africa.

      Marco - 2012-05-22 23:54

      perfectly true.its not required that we love each is required that we dont p!55 each other off for no real reasons.make a note : culturally blacks have got a thing about respect for their elders & whites dont like to be called thieves. (in white culture this a very big insult)

      Schmee - 2012-05-23 07:43

      Oh gosh this is so depressing. Netswera if you think so little of this country maybe you should move to Britain. Were you alive during the apartheid times? I doubt it otherwise you would know that our democracy is a whole lot better now than it was during that time. Yes we have heated debates and things get out of hand but we are allowed to have these debates and when people get out of hand we normally have arrests.

  • John - 2012-05-22 23:02

    ......To spray the word "Respect" ? I know that person...that's Ali G Lowie Mabokela....a taxi driver from Limpopo? Bells for everyone that got the correct answer 24 hours ago.

  • JevonMarshallJohnson - 2012-05-22 23:04

    yeah sure.......they both arrived at exactly the same time by coincidence? You must think were stupid.

  • jennifer.crocker.165 - 2012-05-22 23:05

    Well here's a connection I can sort of imagine, they both come from the same casting agency maybe? Or art collective. And awesome publicity for Uzzi

      vlarismam - 2012-05-23 10:08

      My thoughts exactly! It looks SO staged and it seems as if they had the whole day to get the job done... no rush and get out! Even the 'arrest' looks fake (I guess perhaps the security guard just have wanted to play Rambo for the cameras)

  • alon.c.cohen - 2012-05-22 23:07

    Agree with the assault charge! I think this has been an awesome thing to follow in the media, and that painting is now the stuff of legends! Pretty cool.

      Curtis - 2012-05-23 09:37

      Damn right Alon. Now defaced, the painting will become a historic piece amongst collectors and worth much more than it was sold for. The greatest art creates an emotional response from its audience. Its amazing how powerful art can be, its the ultimate expression of the artists emotions, ideas and thoughts. And now add two more emotional expressions from the vandals (artists) and this is possibly the most emotional, controversial, though proviking piece of art ever to come out of South Africa. Even Picasso doesnt get this kind of attention. I love it. It expresses the varied emotional divisions, thoughts and ideals of the diverse culture and society that makes South Africa great. This painting now expresses all these emotions and opinions at such an interesting and frustrating juncture in South African governance. I love the fact that we dont all think the same and we can all express our own thoughts and emotions openly and freely with one another. What a great country, great people and an exciting place to live.

  • evanknowles - 2012-05-22 23:27

    I keep saying -- it's obvious that the second guy is just trying to repair the damage done by the first guy. He's just a rubbish artist.

      Ted - 2012-05-22 23:44

      You made my day china! Now imagine in court and you are the lawyer : 'Your honour, my well-meaning client is not a vandal at all, not even in his sleep. He was there to repair the damage that was done to the fabulous picture by the learned lighter skinned chap. I think he deserves a hero's medal instead of a fine or jail..and possibly some art lessons and a bells'

      sithembiso.mazibuko1 - 2012-05-23 07:34

      I couldn't have said it better analogy

      Msika - 2012-05-23 08:02

      No chana, second guy was trying to repair the demage done by Murray, by adding those red crosses and covering the exposed genitals, and the black guy came with his own design, which by looking at it, I agree that, he's a rubbish artist.

  • Fourhundredkg - 2012-05-22 23:35

    Now that they are out on bail, these two plonkers can come and paint the genitals of the Zuma-lookalikes who whip out their willies and piss against my fence every day.

  • Hugh_Influence - 2012-05-23 01:16

    I'm so over this. Especially when comments are the same old rehashed tit for tat (or is that tit for tottie). Look past the hatred people - both sides - really man.

  • busisiwe.mahlangu.37 - 2012-05-23 02:29

    Too much hatred on news24. Black,white,indian,coloured = HUMAN. Now please stop

      JanHNortje - 2012-05-23 08:23

      "Hatred"... No just because we have different views on politic and art does not mean we HATE. Stop being naive and stop listening to the ANC "We are not racist", "We are educated" and allow other people, family and friends to have their own opinion, without "Necklacing" them as traitors or branding them as Racist!

  • dmpakati - 2012-05-23 02:41

    The painting of President Zuma with his genitals exposed did not serve any good purpose. It has created so much tension and division in the country. Vandalization of this painting shows that it is not welcomed to everybody. Now lets wait forthe court ruling on Thursday over this painting. The judges need to strike the balance between right to Freedom of expression and the right to privacy and human diginity.

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-05-23 05:15

      No, vandalisation shows that crime is rife. Why did those criminals not wait for the court case before they resorted to crime? Such behaviour is only tolerated in a dictatorship or an oppressed state. The fact the a court case is underway in this matter makes their criminal action unnecessary. People should realise that the struggle is over.

      wayne.m.tomlinson - 2012-05-23 10:57

      I totally agree with you, its really unnecessary that people should try and mock our president. It is hurtful actually, and is giving wayside to those who never cried foul during apartheid but choose to cry foul now at any action the present government takes. It is blatant hypocrisy!

  • Boereroo - 2012-05-23 05:29

    HAHAHAHA This is soooo funny. Your president's weapon of mass destruction causing such a racket. Eish

  • tumelo.mabua - 2012-05-23 06:48

    I do not condone the painting or support the spaying crew, but even when a black and white man are arrested, we still look at things along racial lines?

      Marion - 2012-05-23 10:19

      Isn't a female spayed and a male castrated? Unfortunate typo there. *smile*

  • Tyran Von Bear - 2012-05-23 07:13

    Looks like they got the basic rape/murder bail amount.

  • Tamaranui - 2012-05-23 07:15

    Everyone loves Naidoo.....heheeheheheee

  • Sango - 2012-05-23 07:19

    whether there was connection between them i don't care they did a good job well done. Zuma has got kids can you imagine what damage that pic is going to do to them. I am sure they don't even want to go to school because they will be mocked.

      Mewik - 2012-05-23 07:22

      You're joking right?

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-23 07:24

      This subject is NO joke to the Majority across RSA.

      Koos - 2012-05-23 07:28

      zoomer is like steve. a kid in every town. @Tamaranui. You will be surprised.

      Sango - 2012-05-23 07:37

      no mowik i am not, do you see anything funny here?

      Mewik - 2012-05-23 07:40

      Ok let me get this straight. He was accused of rape, admitted to being a womaniser in court, has numerous wives, which I'll accept, but then he has a ton more kids born out of wedlock with friend's daughters and who knows who, his approval rating is the lowest of any SA president ever, his country has the highest murder and rape rates in the world, he has allowed provinces to be plundered to bankruptcy while he farts around, he's still not delivered on housing, education and healthcare promises, he washed aids of his penis. Ok so now you are telling me that despite all of those self inflicted bits of info that would embarrass his children the only thing that they are offended by is a painting of an imaginary cartoon like willy? I don't believe you really do care about this as much as you pretend to, I think you have just been waiting for a chance to air your true racist views so you are jumping on this because you think its your big chance. You are racist, yet you call myself and other normal white ppl racist, sure some are, but why I am racist who knows. Anyway enjoy your day, try to think a little today.

      Sango - 2012-05-23 08:21

      mewik the only person here who is confused is you. Did i say in my comment that you where racist no i didn't even come close to saying it. You imagination is playing games with you. For you information Zuma is not my favourite president too, i don't support him nether do i support the current leadership of the ANC. You see the problem of some people just because a person is black they think you are an ANC supporter.what this artist did was not right, i am not supporting Zuma i just feel sorry for his kids. Because of this painting they are also victims. You need to see someone i can sense anger in you buddy maybe a shrink will do.

  • James - 2012-05-23 07:23

    Brett Murray seriously got ALL THE PUBLICATION he could ever hoped for. He is a very clever man. Coming up against his work put it right in the middle of the world spotlight. The painting can probably be restored easily to restore the president's crown jewels before it is shipped off to its owner in Germany.

  • mondli.botha - 2012-05-23 07:29

    The difference between Africans n the other races is that the latter takes action n Africans just pay a lipservice. Not only in situations as the issue in question in all respect of our life. We lack the courage, hey almost forgot we like to forgive even the unforgivable. We expose ourselves to manipulation n exploitation as well as abuse. In any normal situations what caucasians have done n are doing it wouldn't be business usual. Untill we develop guts to confront insult with insult we will always be the laughing stock. After all whatever is done to you is through permission!

  • Sango - 2012-05-23 07:30

    if this was zimbabwe someone would be in jail right. I think Zuma better make an emergency call to uncle bob on how to solve such matters.i'm sure his problem with this so called artist will be solved.

      Koos - 2012-05-23 07:38

      With respect, I think you are confused. This is like Zim. Zuma is not in jail but in parliment.

      Sango - 2012-05-23 07:54

      koos i am talking about the artist he will be in jail right now if he was in zim. You just don't make a joke about bob.

  • Robert - 2012-05-23 07:35

    and why not ?? the lotto gets won just about every week.. lol

  • Marlene - 2012-05-23 07:45

    I think the Gallery owners were very silly. The minute my business is threatened I would do everything in my power to protect it and my staff. The painting was already sold. Just remove it to a place of safety!! Stupid people making atupid decisions.

  • wayne.bayman - 2012-05-23 07:53

    This painting is as insulting to black people as singing 'Shoot the boer' is to white people. The courts should have a similar ruling to this as they had for shoot the boer. I hope a few people in the ANC now understand how freedom of exspression can hurt a whole nation. After asking my non-white collegues for their opinions and reading the non-racist and idiotic comments on here I've changed my mind. Freedom of exspression is a human right but when that freedom causes damage on this scale then that exspression becomes freedom of hatred. The courts should rule that the painting is causing division and that it should be taken down.

      wayne.m.tomlinson - 2012-05-23 11:07

      Thank you Wayne. I totally agree with you. People should be just and fair in their Criticism, unfortunately i find people are prone to using any criticism as a mechanism of releasing their racial nostalgia.

      Mamangwana - 2012-05-23 12:37

      Oh,Phuleeeeez Wayne "shoot the boer"song is insulting and racist to whites yes,but comparing it with a painting of the President with his private parts hanging out isn't it unfair,how would you feel if it were you and how would it made your family and children feel,we may not like Zuma,but that doesn't mean he should be humiliated and embarassed like this,liking him or not he's the president of South Africa and there is nothing anyone can do about it

  • Masala Ramabulana - 2012-05-23 07:55

    Tenders on their way to those guys

  • collin.chivell - 2012-05-23 07:59

    If anything this action has added value to the painting

  • ninjacraig - 2012-05-23 08:02

    The black guy was actually rather smart. He waited till the panting was already defaced so he could not be charged for destroying it. Will be interesting to see if the court makes both of them split the bill for the R100k+ artwork though.

  • Deon.Pheiffer - 2012-05-23 08:09

    Please supply me with the banking details of these two men. I would like to help pay for their legal costs, or perhaps for a couple of beers upon their release! South Africa has just gained two hero's! Well done, Barend and Lowie!!

  • Cpo - 2012-05-23 08:09

    Well done Liza for temporarily shutting down the gallery>>>

  • colette.vangerve - 2012-05-23 08:12

    Again our loyal government proofs that they are only interested to enrich themselves, protect their own self worth, caring for themselves only while the children in Eastern Cape are still waiting for textbooks ... start focusing on the important stuff to educate our people, feed them, give them warmth and a roof over their heads so they can feel secure, worth it and live their lives as God intended for all of us!

  • selby.marindili - 2012-05-23 08:14

    to be honest something is going here, i mean you wanna tell me a taxi driver can just drive all the way from limpopo to jhb just for paint without any motive behind?? i mean really

      Marion - 2012-05-23 10:25

      @selby - his motive for driving all the way here was to see if the painting was as offensive as he had been told/believed. If it was, his plan was to deface it, which he did.

  • devon.meredith.31 - 2012-05-23 08:16

    @Tamaranui What RSA culture? You mean black south african culture as opposed to other south african race groups cultures. Your comment about fake South Africans only highlights your intolerance for any other culture that is not black african. People who are embarrassing themselves rarely are aware of it until it's pointed out to them. Although I think the painting went a bit far it definitely pointed out some of our presidents embarrassing short-comings and inconsistencies. Maybe the president should deal with the things in RSA that he and his government have left hanging out for all to see (an embarrassment to all South Africans) rather than worrying about a satirical painting and looking "dignified" in with new cars, extravagant houses and bursting bank balances. President Zuma and his government are as "for the people" as he is faithful to his wives - he was accused of raping a women while already married before you start screaming about multiple wives being black african culture and this being a racist, intolerant, colonial and capitalist comment.

  • JanHNortje - 2012-05-23 08:17

    "It was spontaneous on both their parts," They just happen to bring paint with them? ye right!

  • hendrick.mokwale - 2012-05-23 09:13

    Gallery owner,Liza Essers shld as well b chargd.

  • moxolisi - 2012-05-23 09:25

    I think these two have Stop the possible racist violence black on white ....and Mr Murray He should have that the Painting will Entice Violence all walks of life

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-05-23 09:42

    Were they defacing the painting, the president or the embarrassment?

  • thando.ramncwana - 2012-05-23 09:58

    Who cares if there is a connection??.........job well beers all year round now for the courageous fellas, and for the 'house trained nigha' security guard.....we knw where you live!!

  • charockthony - 2012-05-23 09:59

    It jst an joke b4 u do somthng mst thnk ! Let's see nw they are in trouble !

  • Buy A Hat - 2012-05-23 10:07

    It's funny when you have dumb whites like koos..claiming we would have been primitive without their coming here..wonder where would western development be without Africa ?..claiming that their modernity is out of post modernity at the edge of time!! The only that helped you its your guns , you robbed black people..armed robbery ! Caucasians! Not white that word seem to subliminally lie to you ,to think that you are superior because of your pinkness!

      wayne.m.tomlinson - 2012-05-23 11:03

      Buy its called Racial Nostalgia, people want what will never come again. honestly they should just go live some where else if they can't pitch in and be positive about something!

      Sango - 2012-05-23 12:40

      never mind koos what has he ever developed, except for claiming what was developed centuries ago.

  • thando.ramncwana - 2012-05-23 10:11

    Who cares if there is a connection??.........job well beers all year round now for the courageous fellas, and for the 'house trained nigha' security guard.....we knw where you live!!

  • elize.vankerckhoven - 2012-05-23 10:20

    What really shocks me is the racial comments on E24!! I have never ever been a racist in my life, neither has my parents nor my grandparents. It was something they didn't believe and we were not brought up like that at all. I remember my grandfather not voting cause the only party there was to vote for were the NP's and he didn't believe in what they believed in so he just didn't vote. Yet as white Afrikaans children we were brought up very very strick. My parents were not rich I remember only getting sweets or a treat once a week on a Friday as there were no money for that kind of stuff, fizzy drinks were a no no we lived on water. We HAD to go to school, school wasn't given for free to us by the goverment and I remember how my parents struggle to pay the scool fees for three children but they did as it was so important. At school if you just tried not to do homework or fail a test or be late or "bank" you would get such a hiding that you wished you were never alive, o and you got one at school and one at home because the principal would be calling your parents to inform them of your non-performance. We were forced to study and do good to some extent, our pass mark was 50% and if you failed Afrikaans being your 1st language you failed your year. What I would like to know is where this perception that we got our education and jobs and wealth (for those who have it) from the apartheid goverment, cos hell they never gave me anything?? I had to work my ass off!!

      Zakhele - 2012-05-23 12:40

      Elize...I'm a black South African who's struggling to comprehend the racism drawn from that potrait!\r\n Having said that I think the potrait was a bad political/personal attack on the man and lacks morality. \r\nI'm not a Zuma person nor do I understand some of his policies regarding the welfare/ness of the state, simply because I'm black\r\n and I recommend people like your Oupa who had nothing to do with apartheid, but suffered the ridicule mainly because they are Afrikaner.\r\n We knw that the struggle against apartheid had not been solely a blackmans fight and triumph, however that is what the present ANC claims,\r\n to win more votes! What is disytroying us as a people is that there's a general perception inherited from apartheid regime that all whites\r\n are beneficiaries of apartheid and\r\n that all blacks are subhuman, not to be trusted, can rob/rape/kill you.I'm sick of being hated for my skin colour and I'm sure you feel the same.\r\n We need Counter Apartheid regime system as a course for all South Africans to help ease-out the tension we have\r\n or the so called free borns will all be dragged into this mess! Let's tell the truth of where we come from no matter how hard! Stay good for goodness-sake.

      elize.vankerckhoven - 2012-05-23 14:03

      Zakhele well said I really feel like I am being hated for something I wasn't part of and I am sure you feel the same!! As far as the painting is concerned I am definately not a Zuma fan but I think it was such bad taste, for s%&t sakes I don't want my child to see that and have to explain to him, the painting was sold the least they could do was remove it and give it to the new owner. I am proud to say that I have such a fantastic relationship with my Zimbabwean gardener, this morning he was standing chatting to me in the kitchen discussing what needed to be done. He knows my husband is away from home this week and he also knows that when this happens he needs to take charge of things. I had a huge smile on my face this morning thinking how wonderful this is that we can have so much respect and trust for each other. Now for ALL the youths in this country, get off your backsides and starting studying and stop demanding, NOTHING comes for free!!!!

  • Rex - 2012-05-23 10:42

    I have said it before and I will say it again. 'Freedumb before edikashun and freedumb with edikashun. Sorry guys this is stupidity all round. Stupid painting, stupid reaction and stupid defacer.

      wayne.m.tomlinson - 2012-05-23 11:00

      thank you, I totally agree. It is pleasing to see some of my fellow ethnicity taking an all round unbiased stance on the matter. Sad thing is it is always the Caucasians who never criticized previous totalitarian regimes, but choose to act like fox terriers nowadays, yapping at the ankles of any thing happening today! totally annoying!

  • kgmodise1 - 2012-05-23 11:25

    Good decision from Goodman gallery...

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