No help for fire-hit North West farmers

2012-03-20 16:02

Johannesburg - North West province farmers who suffered about R55m in losses during veld fires in 2011 will not receive disaster compensation from the government, Beeld reported on Tuesday.

According to Agri North West executive manager, Boeta du Toit, the government originally promised the farmers R7m, but failed to honour the agreement.

North West agriculture department spokesperson, Bonolo Mohlakoane, on Friday denied compensation was ever promised.

After the fires in August and September 2011, her department circulated forms among the farmers to determine the extent of the damage, she said.

One farmer and two farm workers were killed battling the disaster, and many more were injured.

Around 260 000 hectares of grazing land were destroyed and around 3 000 head of cattle and game killed, Beeld reported at the time.

If farmers did not receive government help soon, it could mean the beginning of a downward spiral, especially for small-scale operators who could not afford insurance, Du Toit said.

  • Sharmay - 2012-03-20 16:05

    But they can fund lavish parties? Chops... Its time you start supporting the guys who grow the food you eat every day.

      Rob - 2012-03-20 16:37

      Typical. In other countries Farmers are the " bread & butter " of the country. In South Africa they are being wiped out by " you know who " in the name of crime. This Govt will rather spend R 7 million on useless " community " projects that will amount to nothing as usual or it will be used to support the lavish lifestyle of the ruling elite.

      Dirk - 2012-03-21 08:40

      Here, none of them can make something out of it. With the parties and "youth" gatherings, everyone gets a cut.

      Patsy - 2012-03-21 12:08

      No. They'll wait until there is no more - because of their lack of foresight - then it'll be 'gimme, gimme. gimme' to the rest of the world

  • Youefoh - 2012-03-20 16:08

    Eish but they don't mind putttttiiinnnggg eeet innnn deee pockeeeeets!! bunch of twats!

      Youefoh - 2012-03-20 16:10

      Actually zaatheist should become an ANC member, they way he carries on about the facts and make believe he could maybe help these dumb people in government!!

  • phathuchicos - 2012-03-20 16:11

    why won't they help someone ensuring food security...?

      Simnikiwe - 2012-03-20 17:04

      What's there to compensate? Black peeps lose their houses to fire every day but you never see them b*tch!n and moaning about compensation for their losses. And please, don't give me that crap they don't "contribute' to the economy. Some of these people are actually working and some own businesses.

      Bibi - 2012-03-20 17:11

      @Simnikiwe: And how do you know this? Where does your food come from Mr S. and don't tell me it comes from the shop. Your comment is dumb, idiotic and smacks of ignorance.

      Simnikiwe - 2012-03-20 17:17

      @Bibi, who grows the food? people are employed to grow the food. My food comes from the hard work of my brothers and sisters working on farms. If anyone is to be compensated here its black labourers.

      Garth - 2012-03-20 17:17

      @Azanian - you yourself know that the racist, useless, worthless anc will never help white farmers - only in the dreams of the non-ignorant population of this country would they do something to benefit the country. But what the stupid anc and their ignorant troll supporter simply-peewee do not realise is that DIRECTLY by their racist actions, they are affecting the lives of the black people of this country. If only the black people of this country were awake enough to realise that fact! Damn, but the anc are useless.

      Simnikiwe - 2012-03-20 17:23

      Garth by your racist comments, insults and idiotic jokes directed at blacks you are actually inciting hatred too, chap. It goes both ways.

      Rob - 2012-03-20 17:29

      Simnikiwe, " black people are employed to grow the food. " Exactly, employed. No Farm, no employment, no food, nothing !

      Simnikiwe - 2012-03-20 17:33

      Rob. No labourers, no production, no food, no farm, nothing!

      rory.short1 - 2012-03-20 17:33

      @Simnikiwe as a community there is a difference between a person who loses a dwelling in a fire disaster and somebody who loses the means of producing the food that eventually appears on your and my table. Of course everybody should receive compensation but if there are limited funds available then the logical people to begin with are those who are responsible for producing our food because food is an absolutely fundamental requirement of us all. People contributing to the economy in other ways must come second.

      Simnikiwe - 2012-03-20 17:38

      No rory, No!...there wouldn't be an economy in the first place if it wasn't for the workers. The workers are also a factor of production .

      Rob - 2012-03-20 17:55

      Simnikiwe Labourers come & go. Only need Farm. " Build it & they will come. "

      Simnikiwe - 2012-03-20 18:07

      The farm can always be rebuilt I agree Rob. Labourers lost income due to these fires. Their kids probably died of hunger as they were not getting paid because the farm is demolished. Some kids probably even droped out of school because parents can't afford to pay school fees anymore. Some of those kids are probably in the streets right now committing crime because they can't stand seeing their parents suffering and stressing over their loss of income. Labourers should be compensated for loss of income while they wait for the farm to be rebuilt.

      Garth - 2012-03-20 18:52

      @ simply-peewee: what racist comments? What jokes? And I shall insult the useless, worthless anc at every opportunity I get! There is nothing funny in the way that your useless, worthless anc is destroying this country with their racism, corruption and inherent criminality. You support them? Then you are a racist and you are ignorant of the plight of your black brothers and sisters who are directly affected by the stupidity of your inept masters.

      Willie - 2012-03-20 18:59

      Maybe there is a agenda, or a strategy

      Simnikiwe - 2012-03-20 19:12

      Garth, of course I support them. If it wasn't for the ANC I'd still be walking around with a dompass. Tied by discriminatory legislation such the group areas Act, mixed marriages act etc...segregation on buses and trains...being chased with a sjambok...Learning every subject at school in Afrikaans... and please, don't give me that crap Apartheid was scraped because whites signed some refferendum. The ANC put massive pressure on the Apartheid regime to stop their devilish deeds hence the refferendum was produced. If it wan't for the ANC there wouldn't be organisations such as NSFAS to provide financial asssistance to students who can't afford to pay for tertiary education. Umsobomvu Youth fund, NYDA, these organisations exist to assist those who want to start their own businesses and help create job opportunities for others. These opportunities wouldn't be available to black people if it wasn't for the ANC.

      John - 2012-03-20 21:28

      @Simnikiwe How exactly you witnessed that referendum in 1994 in age of 4? As 22 year old you still got your mouth working before your brain. Looking at your pictures I'm wondering.... Is your mouth bigger than your eyebrows or not?

      Dirk - 2012-03-21 08:45

      Brain? What brain? Farmers should do what they are doing in first world countries- mechanize the farms. Do away with labour.

  • Cast53 - 2012-03-20 16:14

    Any other country value/treasure their farmers and give them all the assistance that they need as they are the providers of food for the nation, and a country can't survive without them. In SA the government try to starve them, and incourage the killing, brutal assault as well as rape of the woman (and they do by singing kill the boer, declaring all farmers are thiefs, but the most telling proof is their lack of action to assist and protect the farmers)

  • Hester - 2012-03-20 16:15

    Why help the farmers???? Keep the masses dumb and hungry. That is the communist way.

  • Sharon - 2012-03-20 16:16

    If they pay compensation to the farmers, they might not have enough money for new cars! New ANC motto: Take care of the few at the cost of the many.

  • Poloyatonki - 2012-03-20 16:18

    Farmer are not even ANC members.

      Sharon - 2012-03-20 16:22

      Yes, Polo, you are probably right - is that why they are not significant? Surely the government is responsible to all citizens, not just those who vote for them! Smacks of discrimination to me, looking at this from your perspective.

      David - 2012-03-20 16:27

      You are a brainless idiot. You supported the millions they gave the NYDA (ANCYL's cash cow) now you are wondering whether they are ANC, what a chop.

      Hester - 2012-03-20 16:34

      As I said, if you don't have the party ticket (commumist) then forget about any favours from the racist ANC goverment.

      Dewald - 2012-03-20 16:43

      Interesting comment. And ANC members are not farmers..

      John - 2012-03-20 16:50

      @Poloyatonki Hey Tswana from Botswana....are you alive? I tought you quit trolling this blog (I was mistaken)

      PB - 2012-03-20 16:57

      Donkey, you have just confirmed that you are the number 1 assh... I take it you always make sure that every bite of food you put in your mouth has been produced on a anc member's farm...? It would be great if idiots like you could be excluded from receiving ANY food, goods, services etc produced by non-anc members.

      Prudence Pelembe - 2012-03-20 17:05

      Hahaha nice

      Bibi - 2012-03-20 17:14

      @polo: maybe so, but they pay for the ANC's bling-bling. Without them there would be no food. I know you don't particularly like whites, but I did not expect such a dumb comment from even you.

      Willie - 2012-03-20 19:03

      @ POloyatonki, you are right, but a governments should act in the interest of all citizens, not only supporters, especially if they are of strategic importance as food providers

      Patrick - 2012-03-20 22:58

      Sharon is saying that government is responsible for all citizens.Obviously sharon was born after 1994.

  • Herman - 2012-03-20 16:18

    Is it declined because most of these farmers are white farmers???

      Herman - 2012-03-20 16:20

      These farmers probably have to lay off their workers now.

      Peter-Peter - 2012-03-20 16:34

      not only will probably find that the farmers also spent their savings making some steps towards recovery. This government really knows how to f a country up 'at the roots'

      Dewald - 2012-03-20 16:40

      The ANC is being spiteful. We all know who starts these fires. We all know who sings 'Kill the Boer'. We all know who makes up all the stories about farmers being cruel to their workers. At the end of the day the farmers will stop farming, be it by being murdered, by being driven off the land, or by going bankrupt. The business of commercial farming is not easy, a very small percentage of white people even gets it right. I do not know if the government has a plan of exchanging minerals for food, or what they are thinking? But indeed interesting times ahead...

      Phd - 2012-03-20 16:55

      Yes Herman, definitely white and employing lots and lots of black workers who generally are NOT being exploited, underpaid or overworked if I look at our workforce here in KZN. I say roll on mass starvation and let those poor NW farmers decide NOT to sell their mealies here in SA (or any other crops) for just ONE SEASON - then we'll see who starves. If they lay off their workforce, the starvation will just happen a little faster....

      Patrick - 2012-03-20 23:04

      If you look at how and for how much the white farmers obtained these farms,it is already enough compensation!

  • Bokfan - 2012-03-20 16:23

    Spiteful shortsighted racist and childish anc.

  • Bertus Pretorius - 2012-03-20 16:30

    Anyone that willing take a guess who will be waiting for these farmers to go belly up? (Hint: It's the government wanting to \check\ off a few more farms to distribute to uncapable,incompetent and lazy people just to run the farms to the ground - if the farmers can't go on, they'll sell or go into sequestration/liquidation)

      Patrick - 2012-03-20 23:21

      Racism in this country was started by whites.Apartheid laws were passed by whites.Oppression was championed by whites.Racial segregation was enforced by whites.Whites would rather not have blacks living in this country.For that reason,the only protection for blacks is to keep voting ANC.

      Garth - 2012-03-21 07:40

      Patrick, I have read inanities from you before, but: `For that reason,the only protection for blacks is to keep voting ANC.' must take the prize for ignorant, puerile nonsense. What a totally uninformed waste of typing.

  • Bertus Pretorius - 2012-03-20 16:30

    Anyone that is willing take a guess who will be waiting for these farmers to go belly up? (Hint: It's the government wanting to \check\ off a few more farms to distribute to uncapable,incompetent and lazy people just to run the farms to the ground - if the farmers can't go on, they'll sell or go into sequestration/liquidation)

  • Kevin - 2012-03-20 17:10

    SIMNIKIWE why do you have to make race a crieteria for relief - wake up man - your chip seems to moved from your shoulder into your brain..!

      Simnikiwe - 2012-03-20 17:24

      What chip?

  • rory.short1 - 2012-03-20 17:17

    NW govt has a wrong set of priorities.

  • Scouter - 2012-03-20 17:26

    I suppose SA can always import food from Zimbabwe - whoops I forgot, they don't grow food there anymore ever since Bob turned the 'bread basket of Africa' into just another 'begging basket of Africa'. No white commercial farmer means no food, all you 'land redistribution' fans.

      Patrick - 2012-03-20 23:14

      Whites started leaving Zimbabwe long before the land redistribution.Truth is they were running away from black rule.The only good government for whites is a white government.The only good governance for whites is black oppression and black deprivation.White supremacy is the only acceptable form of government.All this in Africa.

  • Bloodstone - 2012-03-20 17:35

    It will happen again this winter. How does veld fires start on such a large scale in so many different places at about the same time in the dry season? It is one way to try and get the farmers off the land. Organised by who? We all know don't we...

      Sizwe - 2012-03-20 18:48

      @BLoodstone. And Im sure you believe little green men landed in Roswell and JFK was killed by the mob neh....

  • phillip.havenga - 2012-03-20 17:45

    Well seeing as the government all but endorses the farm killings can anyone be surprised at this?

  • Omrisho - 2012-03-20 17:46

    and zambia welcomes our farmers with open arms... something to think about

      Scouter - 2012-03-20 18:45

      An empty pantry and realising what the Chinese are really upto in mineral rich and fertile Africa is a great reality check. Zambia seems to have woken up to the harsh reality in their own back yard.

  • Sizwe - 2012-03-20 18:46

    Look in a free market economy the enterprises get freedom to transact without/or with limited regulations, while on the other hand they give up the right to hide behind state-funding and the regulations attached there to. So when a farmer fails to insure his property as any reasonable business owner would, he cannot then come running to the state when disaster hits. In simple this could have been avoided by insuring you biggest asset, which is land if you are a farmer! In any case the first lesson in Delict is that; "harm rests where it falls", so the farmers cannot now want to shift blame to the state. FYI, to all those who cry of food security, go check the Agricultural economic data for the past decade and you will be shocked at how much maize we import from foreign countries i.e Brazil, precisely because our farmers are not securing the domestic maize production and instead focus on other cash crops, spices or sunflowers!!

      Andrew - 2012-03-20 20:21

      Just how are farmers supposed to afford insurance with the high cost of farming today due to factors beyond their control;fuel,labour,Eishkom,water and taxes to just name a few. The only reason they still manage to farm is by being versatile and swopping to better paying crops which is general good business sense so when input costs are more than the price predicted for say maize well then they not gonna plant maize are they. Yes most of these fires are because of arson the reports back this up so yes there is a sinister motive here.

  • Zinhle Nhlapho - 2012-03-20 21:08

    Cant say I feel sorry for the farmers no matter what you colonialist land stealers say,anyway how are black farmers expected 2be competent when they have only been in the industry for a short while ###Sit Down and get insurance *nXaaaaaaaaah*

      phillip.havenga - 2012-03-20 22:49

      Zinlhe you are pathetic. Your narrow minded stupidity is the reason this country is sinking faster than a brick in water.

      Patrick - 2012-03-20 23:28

      How is Zinhle narrow minded?After decades of white domination and black exploitation you cannot expect whites to continue to dictate.This is government decision.Whites have happily lived with bad decisions for decades,only then the victim were black.First compensate blacks for the deprivation caused by apartheid and for land dispossession since 1904.

  • Zinhle Nhlapho - 2012-03-20 21:10

    #Sit Down and get bloody insurance ningazosdina la Nxaaaaaaah

  • phathuchicos - 2012-03-20 21:44

    Unlike other countries busy subsidising farming industry and mining...SA doesnt want any of those industries anymore judging by the way they are shrinking when compared to the manufacturing and retail industry that is growing at an outstanding rate...

      Bloodstone - 2012-03-21 09:49

      SA does not want any agriculture and mining?? Very clever chappie you, aspiring to be in government IF you grow up?

  • Patsy - 2012-03-21 12:06

    Typical! False promises, lies, greed, inhumanity, self-interest. Disgusting beings (n.b. not human beings)

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