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Noakes: Poor kids must eat animal organs, not pap

2014-07-16 08:14

Johannesburg - University of Cape Town sport scientist Prof Tim Noakes has encouraged children to eat animal organs instead of pap and bread, the Cape Times reported on Wednesday.

Noakes, who encourages a diet that consists of high fats and low carbohydrates, was expected to launch an intervention in the Karoo to change the diets of children from poor communities.

"Carbohydrates drive hunger. They do not satiate us... Children in the Karoo can access animal organs but they are not eating the parts... that help them. The liver, marrow and organs are the healthiest," he was quoted as saying.

Noakes refuted a study by researchers from the University of Stellenbosch that claimed his "Banting" diet was not healthy.

He told Sapa last week that the data analysed during the study was not representative of "the real world".

"In the real world, the LCHF [low carbohydrate, high fat] is the only diet that works."

The study found that a person could lose weight even on a high carbohydrate diet.

Comments
  • Torque Samuel - 2014-07-16 08:22

    why don`t you eat it.Skaapkoek gatsby

      Su West - 2014-07-16 17:03

      I am not what you would consider poor and I love eating offal, livers, kidneys and heart,and it is very good for you....... Take a chill pill please, some dont like it..... but do not push your prejudi (??) ces onto other people. Cook and enjoy

  • Eugene Fourie - 2014-07-16 08:23

    I see there are people behind the scenes working really hard to try and discredit Prof Noakes..you keep up the good work prof..fully behind you as your diet works.

      Eugene Fourie - 2014-07-16 08:34

      You mean academics on the big corporations'research funding payroll..

      Leilanie Ellmann - 2014-07-16 08:56

      This diet does not work for everybody...i gained weight on it and also made me feel quite ill with all the fat you must eat....sorry prof its a no from me!

      Andre Van Deventer - 2014-07-16 08:56

      I agree. This eating plan (it's not a diet!) really works and I am enjoying every meal without starving myself. I also don't have those tired feelings after eating. Fortunately I love liver and kidney sand offall in general. And, it's cheap meat!

      Joe Holman - 2014-07-16 09:18

      @James Muller - if Noakes is wrong them please explain how I lost 26 KILOS in 5 months; and now my rheumatoid arthritis is gone as well as my chronic sinusitis and gout is no more after sticking to what he says to eat? And I haven't exercised or stopped drinking beer... so explain that genius

      Carling Blacklabel - 2014-07-16 09:58

      oh for ffs people, eat properly and excersize regular, that is the key to a healthy body. poor people cannot afford to eat healthy therefore they substitute with carbs.

      Zuma Etolls - 2014-07-16 10:16

      As a food scientist I can tell you that the high fat low carb diet is unhealthy. You will lose weight on any diet if you consume less calories than you metabolise. Just because a diet "works" it does not mean that it is sustainable or the healthiest option. If you are trying to lose fat it makes no sense to consume it! The most scientifically sound option is to follow a high protein, moderate complex carbohydrate, low fat eating plan. Avoid simple carbohydrates (sugars) and saturated fats.

      Zuma Etolls - 2014-07-16 10:20

      And to set the record straight Noakes never came up with this concept. Dr Atkins was the first to market the high fat low carb diet. He died in his 60's from heart failure if I recall correctly.

      Chez Kri - 2014-07-16 10:44

      @Zuma. Firstly, Atkins was not the first either. it dates back to before then and was introduced by a man called Banting (hence the name) Also, Atkins did not die of heart failure, he was killed in some sort of accident but I don't remember the details. Use google - it's your friend.

      Eugene Fourie - 2014-07-16 10:48

      @Zuma...Noakes has never claimed he came up with the diet..it's called the Banting diet.and please reveal the scientific papers behind your claims, cause more and more scientist now reveal that refined carbs is what actually causes heart disease in the first place.

      Zuma Etolls - 2014-07-16 11:47

      @Chez I said Atkins was the first to MARKET it.

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-07-16 11:54

      Simply based on the fact that this guy changes his mind as often as most people change their underwear and comes out with complete opposites every time he writes a paper or book I would ignore anything that he says. Why even he said, when being interviewed and asked about this, that as they were complete opposites ONE OF THEM MUST BE RIGHT !

      Zuma Etolls - 2014-07-16 11:54

      @Eugene read my 1st post. I said avoid sugars. I am 50 years old, I eat 400g protein, 300g of complex carbs, 30g unsaturated fat per day. I have very low body fat, am very muscular my resting pulse rate is 40 beats per minute. I surf, weight train, box and ride offroad motorcycles. Most guys of 20 do not have a physique or fitness level close to mine. My diet is scientifically sound and very effective. Only an unscientific fool would believe that eating large quantities of saturated fats can lead to the healthy loss of stored body fat.

      Eugene Fourie - 2014-07-16 12:15

      Who said anything about consuming large quantities of JUST unsaturated fat?

      Zuma Etolls - 2014-07-16 12:39

      Saturated fats are the problem not unsaturated fats. Do you know the difference? Do you know the sources and quantities of saturated fats in this Banting diet? Nobody said anything about consuming large quantities of just unsaturated fat...Remember, the fat that you store in your body is completely saturated. So if you are trying to lose saturated fat, why would you continue to eat it? Fat yields 9 calories per gram whereas protein or carbohydrate yields 4 calories per gram. A nutrient that is more calorie dense ie fat vs carbohydrate/protein needs to be greatly reduced in order to achieve a constant calorie deficit which will result in the metabolism of stored energy reserves (fat). It's quite simple really.

      Eugene Fourie - 2014-07-16 12:53

      Sorry meant to say saturated fat..anyway..I've been on the dieet..read huge success stories of people (with chronic medical conditions)who could throw away their meds...I've been on the "balanced" diets and it doesnt work for me end of story!

      Chez Kri - 2014-07-16 15:42

      @Zuma. No he was NOT the first to market it. Banting did back in the day. And others since then. Noakes is just the first South African.

  • Willem Willemse - 2014-07-16 08:25

    I am so glad that somebody has seen the light, and is not afraid to speak out ! And now is the time to go after BIG PHARMA and the MCC about all the lies about CHOLESTEROL being so dangerous just to sell rubbish to the public. I think it is time that BIG PHARMA must publish proof about their claims before any drugs are being approved.

      Koisan Jan - 2014-07-16 09:11

      until the klein snotneuse kills your dog or cat for their organs

      konfab - 2014-07-16 09:52

      I suppose the "BIG PHARMA" don't have to do anything such as clinical trials and FDA clearance...

      Chez Kri - 2014-07-16 10:46

      Well Noakes challenged the man behind the cholesterol causes heart disease myth and the man came out looking a little foolish. After 20 years at a cost of nearly $1 billion dollars there is still no proof.

      Patricia Dewet - 2014-07-16 11:50

      Read Trick or Treat by Barry Groves. The way BIG PHARMA is taking us for a ride is shocking. Take fruit juice, it is not normal to eat 6 or 8 apples, but we drink it. On every diet you can loose weight but not possible to stay on it, but on Banting you can stay forever.

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-07-16 12:11

      Chez I think that just a few cardiologists might disagree with you. And I know that my own renal artery and kidneys would definitely disagree with you. And the proof of that is that I am still alive, when I most definitely would not be if it were not for some tiny pills for which I am thankful! Not all doctors, pharmacists and researchers are as evil as some of you would like to think. Unfortunately, just as in any other corporate hierarchy there are the unscrupulous who only see profit and little else !

      Chez Kri - 2014-07-16 15:53

      @Jonathan. there was a time when most doctors believed sticking leeches on a sick person would heal them. Then some doctors looked at other cures. Why, after 30 years of following an eating formula has our health kept deteriorating? We were once told that margarine was healthier than butter and there are very few doctors that would agree with that now! Also, the cholesterol medication is known for the liver damaging side effect. It's even admitted by your "perfect" pharmaceutical companies.

  • Annette - 2014-07-16 08:26

    aaaaaammmmm - NOOOOOOO !

  • Nkosingiphile Ngubane - 2014-07-16 08:29

    Since these kids are poor, how in the world are they suppose to excess these 'animal organs'. You need money to buy animals you know. But i do get his argument though, they are more healthier than pap.

      Thuto Moloi - 2014-07-16 08:34

      read the whole article, the karoo specializes in animals.

  • Brendon Cluta - 2014-07-16 08:31

    Disgusting! Tim Hoakes is advocating demonic rituals. Meat is cancer causing.

      Jp Le Roux - 2014-07-16 08:43

      Demonic rituals? you need to catch a wake up man

      Nkosingiphile Ngubane - 2014-07-16 09:48

      One can only wonder what you're on about Brendon....care to explain yourself?

      Eternity - 2014-07-16 10:34

      Actually cancer cells have been shown to feed off of glucose. Organ meats have some of the highest nutrients in an animal. People have been eating them for years and it’s only in the recent Westernized culture that it is taboo. Beef liver is classed as a superfood. It is high (like crazy high) in so many vitamins and minerals: Calcium, Magnesium, Potassium, Iron, Vitamin A, Vitamin D, Vitamin E, Vitamin C, Vitamin B6, Vitamin B12 and more. We all agree chicken soup is healing and guess what it is mainly due to the bone broth created from the chicken bones marrow. Most organ meats are really cheap compared to other meat – especially when you compare the nutrient ratio. It is difficult to incorporate these foods in our modern lives. I am personally trying to add more liver in my diet, but I am really not fond of the taste.

      Annette - 2014-07-16 10:54

      i tend to agree with you. imagine the animal abuse that will happen from now on !

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-07-16 12:22

      I agree with Brendon ! Humans actually do not need to eat meat. But that aside any healthy nutritious diet is made up of as big a variety of foods in balanced quantities. And the problem that most poor people have is in not having access to nutritious foods. Instead of telling them what they should be eating, you should rather be teaching them how to grow their own food instead of sitting on their backsides waiting for someone else to give them stuff. This country has the whole land ownership deal going on at the moment. And specifically farm land. But land is worthless if you do not make it productive !

      Nkosingiphile Ngubane - 2014-07-16 16:23

      Yes Jonathan, humans don't have to eat meat - but to go as far as calling the simple practice of eating meat demonic - now that's something else

  • Ben S - 2014-07-16 08:32

    Liver and kidneys with the pap. Good for you.

      Mc Apple - 2014-07-16 08:41

      Add a good amount of onion and sishebo for the pap and I'll give you 10 thumbs up. Yum!

      Molefi Leviy Motshabi - 2014-07-16 08:44

      growing up in the farm we used to eat that alot and never been to the doctor so far.

  • lood.klerk - 2014-07-16 08:32

    Prof is 100% correct!

      John Porter - 2014-07-16 09:27

      No he is not; he's 100% wrong. All the medical evidence over the past 50 years shows that a high-meat high fat diet is the surest way to get cancer, diabetes and heart failure. Noakes is a menace to society.

      Chez Kri - 2014-07-16 11:04

      @John Porter. You are 100% wrong. The problem is exactly that after all these years of research, there is NO proof that high fat causes anything. Cholesterol medication is one of the highest income earners for the pharmaceutical industry and the ONLY thing they can prove it does is cause liver problems.

  • Cell Mclot - 2014-07-16 08:38

    Will this diet not accelerate cholesterol, heart-attack and other fat-related diseases? I am not englightened in this medical space, I just take doctor's orders

      Eternity - 2014-07-16 15:04

      Cholesterol is not bad for you. Your body needs it to function - especially your brain and nervous system. What becomes a problem is if you LDL (bad) cholesterol is too high compared to your HDL (good) cholesterol. If you get a blood test you should ask them to test this and not just your total cholesterol. As long as you focus on getting your HDL ratio up your heart will be healthy. It is a myth that ALL meat is bad for your cholesterol levels. Free range meat has 2-4 more omega-3 fatty acids (good fat) then grain- fed/factory farm animals. So if you focus on getting organic meat then you will not need to worry that much about this. It should also be noted that there is a limit to how much omega-3 your body can convert, so taking more omega-3 (fish oil) capsules will not necessarily help – and could be bad for you. There are ways to increase bioavailability with other foods (like turmeric), but if you replace the fats that are bad and replace them with good ones then this is better .

      Eternity - 2014-07-16 15:10

      Summary: Grass-fed meat, Grass-fed produce (milk, butter, eggs), fatty fish (salmon), olive oil and nuts are good for your heart and you should eat more of these without much fear your hearts health

  • Desiree Rowe - 2014-07-16 08:39

    He is quite right. Especially liver and kidney. I make them for my family on a regular basis.

  • Elaine Potts Leitao - 2014-07-16 08:40

    Words spoken by a person who has obviously never known hunger - the poor don't have the luxury of deciding what to eat or not.

      Hein Whelan - 2014-07-16 15:24

      Chopette... Look at how much offal costs in comparison to pap and then you'll see that this isn't a "rich man's" suggestion. It is actually very viable and a lot healthier.

  • Molefi Leviy Motshabi - 2014-07-16 08:41

    I know exactly where poor kids can go hunt for animals for free...Nkandla farm and Modise Farm and some many Anc farms out there.

  • Themba Mzukulwane Ka-Ndlavele Thela - 2014-07-16 08:43

    Most people like me are from a middle class communities where its hard to comeby when it comes to such food,liver is quite expensive and it doesn't last,while maize meal last...i do agree that they are good but they can't be afforded for the whole month..

      Nkosingiphile Ngubane - 2014-07-16 09:20

      Quite true Themba, when you poor - you think of what will last and not really of what is good. It is what it is unfortunately

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-07-16 12:43

      Now you two have really hit on one of the most important factors for so many living in Africa and other poorer areas of the World. Who unlike some others and those proposing these diets, don't have electricity or fridges and can only get to market once a month because they cant afford any more. For these people you have to be able to store it without it going bad or eat it fresh. The biggest benefit to these people is to teach them how to grow their own, even in the most inhospitable situations.

  • Given - 2014-07-16 08:46

    Gud to hear lovely south african sharing ideas not hatred,thumb up for all comment

  • Marty Martin - 2014-07-16 08:48

    And pigeons, tastes like chicken, actually we have an awesome bird population, rats, moles, the list is actually quite long. Only cos everybody been programmed to eat what they advertise. Including myself

  • Anthony Antihypocrite - 2014-07-16 08:51

    I cannot make up my mind !! Can someone tell me, if the prof, supports the da or the ANC Than, I will make up my mind within seconds !!

      Hendrik Potgieter - 2014-07-16 08:53

      DA

      Anthony Antihypocrite - 2014-07-16 09:01

      Thanks Hendrik, Stupid diet !! .

      Johan Steyn - 2014-07-16 09:02

      You are most likely a anc voter only idiots like you can drag politics in where the subject is that of hungry children it is morons like you that makes me dislike black people.

      Nkosingiphile Ngubane - 2014-07-16 09:23

      Because your mind is limited to politics Anthony?

  • Esme Jacobs - 2014-07-16 08:54

    Where will they be getting the organs and is it cheaper than pap? And will there be enough in the shops, as much as pap? Wait till the mealie farmers hear this......

      Hein Whelan - 2014-07-16 15:27

      OMG! Some people are really thick. Of course you just walk up to the cow or sheep and cut its gut open, take as much of the entrails and organs as you need and move along. The next person comes along and takes the rest. The cow or sheep will grow new ones 0_o

      Joy-Mari Cloete - 2014-08-11 13:26

      You've obviously never been to a butchery that caters to black customers. You will find tons of organ meat. It's crazy cheap.

  • Method - 2014-07-16 08:55

    Pretty sure there are healthier things to eat than animal organs...fruits and vegetables would be healthier than a fatty liver...

  • konfab - 2014-07-16 08:57

    Exactly: if poor kids had a choice they wouldn't be hungry.

  • Gezane Wa Baute - 2014-07-16 08:59

    where are they going to get organs?

      Ted Bug - 2014-07-16 10:40

      Please donate your brain... your'e not using it anyway...

      Hein Whelan - 2014-07-16 15:28

      OMG! Some people are really thick. Of course you just walk up to the cow or sheep and cut its gut open, take as much of the entrails and organs as you need and move along. The next person comes along and takes the rest. The cow or sheep will grow new ones 0_o No don't donate YOUR brain no nutritional value there. But, if you want to make it even better go and suck on Glock

  • konfab - 2014-07-16 08:59

    It is such a pity that the diet this idiot is advocating is too expensive for them. If they could afford to eat meat every night like the good prof does I am sure they would.

      SunshinyDay - 2014-07-16 09:17

      What is your alternative then, seeing that a professor is too much of an idiot for you? If they can incorporate to their diets a couple of times a week at least that would be better. They aren't that expensive, if you can get them at the right place (a butchery for example, where you don't have to pay for fancy packaging).

      konfab - 2014-07-16 14:14

      My unqualified opinion would be to try and improve the fiber content in existing pap. That stuff keeps you full just as well as fat.

      Joy-Mari Cloete - 2014-08-11 13:29

      Organ meat is dirt cheap. I once bought a packet of chicken skin for R5.I forget how much it weighed. It was probably about 300g. I bought it to render the fat into oil. The amount of flesh on the skin! I think there was about the same amount of flesh as there was skin.

  • John Porter - 2014-07-16 09:25

    This guy is a menace; the sooner the SA medical establishment shut him up, the better. All the evidence shows that a high fat low carb diet is as bad for you as smoking. One wonders what Noakes is smoking - or perhaps he just likes the attention.

      Eugene Fourie - 2014-07-16 09:42

      Please quote your so called "evidence" because the more I research the more I come across articles refuting the myth that a high fat diet can cause heart disease..

      Ted Bug - 2014-07-16 10:43

      John, your comment would be funny if it were not so sad. You have obviously not been reading very much for the last year. What Noakes is advocating did not originate with him and is quickly becoming the new way of eating healthily. Educate yourself before making such stupid comments.

      GaryWatson - 2014-07-16 12:14

      @John Porter....report Noakes to the Health Professions Council of South Africa if you have proof he is a menace. Or shut the f**k UP!

  • Cina - 2014-07-16 09:27

    Poor people can hardly afford pap, how the heck are they going to afford animal organs.

      Ted Bug - 2014-07-16 10:44

      Cina, educate yourself. Ask the butcher and you might be surprised at how little organs cost compared to other meats.

  • Martiens Bezuidenhout - 2014-07-16 09:30

    I went from 146kg to 88 kg in two years and have been keeping it off ever since... what pisses me off to no end is everybody asking me if I followed the Noakes diet. .. NO. I did not and in case you didn't know his ideas are simply ripped off from the French Dr. Ducan who's high protein low carb diet worked wonders for me and my loved ones. This guy Noakes is so arrogant that he believes "his" diet is the only one that works. Pffft... He should be careful... If his head gets any bigger people might start to think he is getting fat!

      Wendy Webb - 2014-07-16 10:09

      Actually, he gives all the credit to William Banting's doctor. It's the media that keeps on referring to the "Noakes Diet". And the diet is high fat, not high protein like Dukan.

  • Johan Nothnagel - 2014-07-16 09:33

    Let's start with the first 2 words: Poor kids - stop making them if you cannot affort them. Stop acting like rabbits !!!!.... Condoms is freely available......

      Jacob Advo Hlongwane - 2014-07-16 10:38

      So just because people are poor they shoul not have kids? Who must have these kids? Rich folks? How else are they supposed to give birth to souls that can change the world? Some of us had been born in poor backgrounds but turned out okay, and we certainly wont give birth to poor kids cos its about breaking the cycle of poverty. Thats just a selfish comment you making.

      Johan Nothnagel - 2014-07-16 11:01

      I know what I can afort or not...... I will never let my kids live on other peoples money...... That's embarrassing.....my kid look in my eyes and ask for food, damn no.....

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-07-16 12:58

      What is selfish Jacob is people who can not afford to have kids bringing more children into the World and expecting others to support them! And you break the cycle of poverty by HAVING FEWER KIDS & EDUCATING THE ONES THAT YOU CAN AFFORD. It is not about a set number of souls that HAVE to be produced. Everything is about balance. In all of nature their is balance except where man interferes! Then there is usually some sort of chaos, simply because we ignore the laws of nature !

  • linda.watson.794 - 2014-07-16 09:41

    This guy is such a twit. Wait til everyone starts having a reaction to all the fat he is telling them to eat. Watch your arteries people!! There will be a backlash.

      Ted Bug - 2014-07-16 10:45

      This twit has published over 500 scientific papers. And your tally is...?

  • JRD14 - 2014-07-16 09:44

    Mr Noakes doesn't realise he is encouraging the slaughter of township animals.

      Chez Kri - 2014-07-16 11:08

      What? you do realise that the cow/chicken/sheep etc. that comes from your butcher has all those organs right?

      Hein Whelan - 2014-07-16 15:31

      OMG! Some people are really thick. Of course you just walk up to the cow or sheep and cut its gut open, take as much of the entrails and organs as you need and move along. The next person comes along and takes the rest. The cow or sheep will grow new ones 0_o

  • Daisy Jones - 2014-07-16 09:44

    I haven't had carbs in 28 days (yes, I've been counting and I miss them **crying**) and I've lost some weight, but I've also become cranky - just ask my husband and the kids. I think a low carb diet for children is healthy and so are daily vitamins. Isn't there a way for the government to subsidize vitamins for the poor? Please do pardon my ignorance if this is already taking place.

      konfab - 2014-07-16 14:16

      You are pardoned, pap is enriched with vitamins to make it more nutritious.

  • Laurence Weyers - 2014-07-16 09:54

    Daisy, nice thoughts, but the government only subsidises poor and needy people near an election, when they need votes

      Johan Nothnagel - 2014-07-16 11:03

      Yip, with our money..... What a corrupted country

  • Jp van der Wath - 2014-07-16 10:02

    I read what people have written, and I thought that "skaap derms" sheep intestines, were quiet a delicacy, rinse it out and braai it, pull up your nose, but if you have not tried it, then you cannot comment either

  • Vuvu Lilonke Mpekelana - 2014-07-16 10:09

    and you tell me where can poor kids get animal organs!!!what happened to eating veggies since they can plant them and access them??

      Chez Kri - 2014-07-16 11:09

      Not enough protein in veggies. Organs are also very, very cheap and an animal like a cow has a pretty big liver, kidneys etc.

      Thabo Potsane - 2014-07-16 11:37

      Chez beans have a lot of protein dear, The doctor diet is high fat low carb hoor. don't include protein please and eat fat animal insides and never eat pap again.but I will never stop eating pap and I always think wise and healthy.

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-07-16 13:14

      Sory Chez. Some of you other comment have been suspect, Now you are just being totally ignorant! Simple question. WHERE DO YOU THINK THE ANIMALS GET THEIR PROTEIN AND NUTRIENTS FROM ? And compared to us most of them are really BIG. And here is a big one for you. The true predator species that rely on eating other animals have a completely different metabolism and marked differences in their jaws, teeth and digestive systems to us. Humans don't need meat even though we are able to process it. A cat on the other hand will die of a purely vegan diet.

      Hein Whelan - 2014-07-16 15:32

      OMG! Some people are really thick. Of course you just walk up to the cow or sheep and cut its gut open, take as much of the entrails and organs as you need and move along. The next person comes along and takes the rest. The cow or sheep will grow new ones 0_o

      Chez Kri - 2014-07-16 15:58

      @Jonathan. Well I think your comments are totally ignorant so there! Do you know that vegetable protein is different to meat protein? Also, it takes a lot more beans to get the protein than it does liver. Why do you think vegetarians eat things like protein bars? And you can't compare the digestive system of a cow to ours. We would die if we ate grass.

      Jonathan Woods - 2014-07-16 18:25

      Shame Chez . It would seem that you really don't know as much as you thought you did about nutrition. And by the way, vegetarians and vegan don't NEED to eat artificially produced protein bars or protein shakes. And they get all they need from a balanced diet of veg, fruit, legumes and nuts. And it might amaze and shock you, but more and more people around the world to changing away from a meat based diet!

  • Raymond Billson - 2014-07-16 10:11

    There are many alternatives to just eating pap and bread. Unfortunately it takes a bit of effort to start up the fish and vegetable intensive farming methods. It also takes daily looking after. But yes the alternative to organs would be this combination. It is also sustainable on a very small ground footprint. Foundation for Peace, Health and Reconstruction.

  • William Wamala Nsubuga - 2014-07-16 10:14

    What people can and can't eat all depends on cultural are regional conceptions. In Ice land and the Nordic countries animal testicles are a delicacy enjoyed by both male and female alike. In the States, especially South Easterly states a sequel will always be part of the menu on special occasions and daily if one has the time to hunt for them.Russians eat virtually every part of the animal save the skin. As to what is good for the human body, even the nutritionist are not sure. Early in the seventies butter and eggs were good for your health, then in the Nineties they changed their mind and the same were not good for you because they increase your cholesterol.Then just recently in our own news papers eggs were declared safe because " our eggs" are deemed to contain very little cholesterol and you can eat one every the other day of the week. As for the chaps in the Karoo, they expend a lot of energy as they do their daily chores that what they may get from the pap may not be enough. Supplementing with organ meat which is rich in fat(high in energy) will prevent their bodies from cannibalizing themselves. I think the good prof has a point here.

  • Gaylin Allysa Uren - 2014-07-16 10:16

    Oh thats helpful! Where they gonna get the equipment to cook this? Pap is known and easy to make. Noakes no clever ideas rather keep quiet!

      Ted Bug - 2014-07-16 10:47

      Hey bright spark... you need a fire a pot and water to cook pap. You need a fire, water and a pot to cook meat. Huh...duh... try compute that.

      Ceba Mlandu - 2014-07-16 11:07

      I think you are the most stupid person on the internet.

  • Peter William - 2014-07-16 10:26

    Where they gonna get da money to buy da nyama? Good suggestion expensive to eat meat. Peanut butter is a wonderful substitute for meat. I can remember a nutritionist telling our kids in junior school before playing sport or you feel hungry have a spoon of peanut butter. Our kids always had it on their sandwiches. Nothing wrong with them healthwise.

  • Malose-Nyatlo - 2014-07-16 10:31

    The UN has identified turning to Moringa Oleifera as the most cheapest and cost effective way of combatting hunger and malnutrition. We need to wake up!

  • Dan Danukdhari - 2014-07-16 10:59

    Tim Noakes basic principles are that of the controversial Dr Atkinson,many tried to prove Dr Atkinson wrong but failed,he said the same,you can eat many fats as you can but if you cut down carbohydrates you'll loose fat

  • Mthembeni Mathe - 2014-07-16 11:20

    Hayi ustrongo mrs mpeks ndikncamile......

  • Manoko Cedrick - 2014-07-16 11:44

    Ag shame poor kids. Then, this lazy fat kids who access everything not healthy are not to go the same route diets or is not the case as they belong to the wealthy families in the cities?

  • Richard - 2014-07-16 16:54

    Well maybe they should not have to eat either of the two. Just maybe the ANC should stop looting us and help the poor to a decent meal.

  • Paljas Paljassie - 2014-07-17 06:44

    Question, where are the millions and millions of rand from the Mandela Childrens Fund who everybody contributed to and still do? The KFC fund for hungry children? Eaten by the adults who manage these funds?

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