Non-striking farmworkers turned away

2013-01-09 08:00

Cape Town - Strikers were turning away trucks and buses in the Wolesley area to stop non-striking farm workers from going to work on Wednesday, SABC radio news reports.

They had also closed a road into a nearby township.

It was also reported that farmers in the Hex River Valley had employed private security personnel to protect their property against strikers.

Western Cape farmworkers went on strike last year, demanding that their daily wages be increased from R69 to R150. They also wanted a coherent land reform programme.

Two people were killed and property worth millions was destroyed between 27 August and 4 December. The strike was then suspended.

Last week the Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) announced that the strike would resume on Wednesday following failed pay negotiations with Agri-SA and government.

  • alex.richards.94064 - 2013-01-09 08:05

    if they want to be militant, then let the farmers reaction also be militant without repurcussions.

      jj.terblanche - 2013-01-09 08:13

      Wish EaTwice, I just read that Harmony mine is closing down, 1000's of people are losing their jobs.... BTW what you propose is unconstitutional, get a brain

      kimard - 2013-01-09 08:52

      give them what they wanT?? tomorrow they WANT something else - they need to work o eat. no work no pay - if they cant wait for the negotiations to be completed then they must die of hunger - oh no wait, stealing is the other option

      john.morreira.9 - 2013-01-09 09:30

      Wish Ea Twice, you really are a SPECIAL kind of STUPID,aren't you.

      Jason - 2013-01-09 10:14

      As a youngster I went over to the UK on a "working" holiday. One of the jobs I had was picking apples down in Kent. Now as a casual laborer all we got was commission. Basically we got paid per bin we filled with apples. So the harder you worked the more money you would make. There was no daily wage. Majority of the people getting paid 69 bucks a day are seasonal casual laborers. they are there during harvesting. Im sure these people as casual staff are also claiming government welfare.

      thandiwe.ngema.71 - 2013-01-09 15:39

      We must not erode the exports and tax inflows that our farmers provide us. I am proud of South African farmers. At the same time I feel sorry for workers on such low wages, but I think there must be better ways of dealing with these issues. I have no more respect for COSATU who seem to love stoking violence. There is nothing democratic or fair about the violence stoking COSATU..

  • willie.olivier.144 - 2013-01-09 08:06

    Non- striking workers turned away? Get the bloody army if the police are to lazy to do their work in protecting people who want to work!

      johann.fouche.50 - 2013-01-09 08:16

      Army training focus on shooting to kill. Police training focus on shooting to stop. Maybe the army should start moving in...

      Albert van Rensburg - 2013-01-09 08:28

      Nowdays the army is worse than the police! Both forces lost all pride and respect

  • May - 2013-01-09 08:10

    If these workers only realize,that the unions only have there own pockets at interest and NOT the workers.This country is going to sink because of unions!!!

      ronald.stilianou - 2013-01-09 09:13

      This is what happened in the UK. The unions are the biggest problem, not so much the workers. These workers are being used and they are too stupid to see that. The natural progression of this is for these workers to starve to the point where they themselves realize that the unions are doing them more harm than good. Fransman and tony, I hope you know that you are asking for a necklace, this wont end well for you two.

      maureen.churchill.9 - 2013-01-09 11:33

      The most frustrating thing... you cannot get it through their heads that the unions are full of BS. I agree with Jason pay per load picked. No minimum wage no allowances, you pay for the weight you pick.

  • bpuzi - 2013-01-09 08:14

    Some people have kids to take to school, its not fair that they turn the non striking farm workers away. Let those who want to go on strike go and let the people who want to work do their job!

  • gary.desousa.5 - 2013-01-09 08:21

    Sounds about right for erenrich and his rent a mob, hope the police control it.

      kimard - 2013-01-09 09:46

      thats all it is - bet the gangsters are rented. and the real workers want to go to work

  • Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-09 08:23

    Forcing people to strike should be highly illegal.

      Deon - 2013-01-09 08:31

      It is intimidation and should be reported to the police. The police should clear the roads.

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-09 08:44

      Its much more than just intmidation. The SAPS has failed us all.

      tersia.louw.12 - 2013-01-09 09:25

      Michael, the police are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Where I live (Cape Winelands) they do a really good job and are very community-minded - they care about ALL members of our town (pop.25 000). I've never had the feeling that they're cops by default, but rather that they're interested in make a genuine contribution. Having read what I've just written and knowing what's been posted about SAPS generally, we're really lucky.

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-09 09:36

      Lucky you while we must wait hours or days for their quick response foot soldiers. There is too much currption within all government departments to solve problems. Politicians cannot solve problems engineers do.

  • lenox.ntlantsana - 2013-01-09 08:31

    Give people what they want and there's more surplus to come!

      FeebleGastro - 2013-01-09 08:39

      WTF are you trying to say?

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-09 08:47

      Lenox is partly right there is enough of all resources to go around. However then the snobby rich would not have anything to prove that they are in a superior class than that of a labourer.

      andres.dewet - 2013-01-09 09:26

      Okay Michael, then are you willing to pay more for basic foodstuffs? Anyone who has a clue about the sector knows it's the business with some of the narrowest profit margins. Pay more, sure they'll pay more too.

  • pws69 - 2013-01-09 08:40

    A question, if the majority of workers want to return to work, and a few ANC aligned militants who are doing their bit to destabilize the WC are trying to stop them, does this mean that the ANC does not support democracy and the right of choice? Taking this one step further, this is exactly how Apartheid worked, with a minority forcing a majority to do their will, through violence and intimidation. Would this then indicate that the ANC had no problem with the concept of Apartheid, but just didn't like being on the receiving end of it? Lastly, is a democratic choice acceptable to the ANC only if that choice benefits them?

      Deon - 2013-01-09 10:48

      The ANC seems to favour democracy but not in the Western Cape.

  • nicolas.gombert.16 - 2013-01-09 08:40

    This is an unprotected strike. Cosatu and in particularly Ehrenreich, Pieterse and Fransman should be held accountable for the damages they are causing the farmers and the workers who want to work. The SAPS should charge them with intimidation.

      gisela.weinmann.7 - 2013-01-09 08:50

      I agree. But guess when a claim for damages is instituted against COSATU or the western Cape ANC, COSATU and the ANC will say their members, Ehrenheit and Fransman) did not a mandate to do what they did.uestion is, what did COSATU and the WC ANC do to indicate to their Ehrenheit/Fransman to inform them officially that they were not representing their union and political party? Or are their actions silently approved?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-09 08:59

      Gisela.weinmann7. Anything that cause trouble for the D.A. is silently approved. Where was COSATU in the Marikana debacle? They kept quiet. Safeguarding Ramaphosa's interest?.

  • Jaco JP Venter - 2013-01-09 08:40

    if there is a illegal person on your farm and that person is doing damage to the property u got the right to shoot him!Go and read the constitution of the country so farm owners dont be scared shoot the bafoons

  • simphiwe.charlie.5 - 2013-01-09 08:43

    Stop the slavery and pay them a living wage for goodness sake!!!!

      siyabonga.mjokweni.7 - 2013-01-09 08:49

      Dats true Simpra they do have money to hire private securities

      pws69 - 2013-01-09 08:52

      We have heard this term "living wage" bandied about for more than a year now, but I cannot find a reference to what is considered a "living wage". What is considered a "living wage"? R3000 pm, R5000 pm, R15000 pm, R50000 pm? Secondly, because of the dynamics of an international market and the associated effect it has on pricing, where in most cases labour accounts for more than 50% of the production cost, would you say it is better to be unemployed, but getting a R260pm grant, or employed, and earning R2000pm, as any salary above this would make the business unsustainable due to the low wages paid in India and China forcing down the selling price of the goods produced?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-09 09:03

      Simphiwe.charlie.5. They are paid the wages your government decided was good enough for them. They only became 'slaves' when Tony Ehrenreich and Fransman decided to use them to further their own careers. Why weren't these people 'slaves' five or ten years ago?. Because nobody saw them as a stepping stone to higher positions, that's why. Don't be naive.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-09 09:07

      Siyabonga.mjokweni.7 They need private security because the KFC and Coke horde burn and pilfer. Are they not allowed to safeguard their property?Do you allow people to break down and set on fire what is yours?. Grow up.

      Ze Don - 2013-01-09 09:20

      @pws69: If you use the old age grant as a benchmark then R1140 a month is a ''living wage''. That equates too R52.62 a day.

      PointBlank - 2013-01-09 09:43

      Simphiwe, they free to go seek employment elsewhere. No one is forcing them to work there. What is funny is that COSATU were instrumental in determining the min wage but now they blame farmers and apartheid. And you suckers fall for it all the time and you get offended when we point this outtoyou.

      pws69 - 2013-01-09 10:04

      @Ze Don, very good point. As you so rightly point out, the ANC government has in effect set the living wage at R1140-00.

      nicolas.gombert.16 - 2013-01-09 10:30

      A living wage should be based on total cost to company, including benefits. Most farmworkers don't pay for transport, housing for them and their families and even water and electricity. If you stay in Sandton and you pay your gardener R200 per day, he spends at least R100 travelling to and from work, R700 per month for his accommodation. Then the R200 per day is NO LONGER a living wage.

  • niki.wessels - 2013-01-09 08:45

    Many farmers probably consider reducing the workforce and mechanising...

  • jennifer.d.martin.750 - 2013-01-09 08:48

    Mr Sexwale, please help your farmworkers at Bloemindal, they are suffering. Your managers are getting outsiders to work and the people who have only ever known your farm are going to lose their homes with nowhere to go, not much food and no help... you are their future. A good man would look after his farmworkers are you a good man?

      anned.engels - 2013-01-09 09:18

      Surely if Walter Hennig can pay millions for a new years party, Mvelaphanda can afford to pay their workers at Bloemendal.

      maureen.churchill.9 - 2013-01-09 11:35

      Anned.engels, you have the bills do you? you can prove and back up what you've posted here? I'm waiting...

  • Jane - 2013-01-09 08:48

    When is this useless ANC government going to put an end to all these violent strikes. We look like a banana republic to the rest of the world! And yes I know people in other countries also strike and yes they also turn violent, but we must hold the world record for the amount of strikes per year.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-09 08:53

    The strikers have to earn their KFC and Coke somehow.

  • brian.dureuck - 2013-01-09 08:53

    shoot them!!!! ... make the circle bigger

      simphiwe.charlie.5 - 2013-01-09 11:25

      Another sick racist!

  • Mary Milne Archibald - 2013-01-09 08:55

    We live in a Democracy and have freedom of choice. This is intimidation.

  • ryan.macdougall - 2013-01-09 08:58

    Its head lines like this that makes me feel that the unions should be removed. just like Margret Thacher did.

      stephen.lipp - 2013-01-09 17:19

      and what good did it do for Britian?

  • johnny.engelbrecht1 - 2013-01-09 09:01

    @ simphiwe.charlie5 please explain what you mean by slavery- is it because of the "pay/wage" ??? I think the workers are more than welcome to apply for a better position if you not happy with your work situation move on with your life - i talk from experience and believe me buddy I have worked all over. Maybe they can apply for a better position in the Limpopo province. much better weather - not as windy as in the cape - Limpopo hot and dry all year long.

      tersia.louw.12 - 2013-01-09 09:32

      An entire army? I thought the problem was only in the Western Cape; that's what Tony and the others are saying. Shaun says it's all the DA's fault. But if it's all the DA's fault, why is it all over the country? I'm confused, vumanie.gabhisa.

  • ForeverWP - 2013-01-09 09:09

    Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to R100... If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this... The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing. The fifth would pay R1. The sixth would pay R3. The seventh would pay R7.. The eighth would pay R12. The ninth would pay R18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay R59. So, that's what they decided to do..

      ForeverWP - 2013-01-09 09:10

      The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by R20". Drinks for the ten men would now cost just R80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men ? How could they divide the R20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share? They realized that R20 divided by six is R3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay. And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving). The sixth now paid R2 instead of R3 (33% saving). The seventh now paid R5 instead of R7 (28% saving). The eighth now paid R9 instead of R12 (25% saving). The ninth now paid R14 instead of R18 (22% saving). The tenth now paid R49 instead of R59 (16% saving). Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.

      ForeverWP - 2013-01-09 09:10

      "I only got a dollar out of the R20 saving," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,"but he got R10!" "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar too. It's unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!" "That's true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get R10 back, when I got only R2? The wealthy get all the breaks!" "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!" The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

      timothy.crowley.96 - 2013-01-09 09:25

      Fair enough but where do you think the money comes from to make the rich man rich!

      Zohan.Steppingstone - 2013-01-09 10:13

      timothy - "work". Go look up the meaning of the word, then come back and post something meaningfull - there's a good boy.

      pws69 - 2013-01-09 10:22

      @Timonthy. Do you think Bill Gate from Microsoft should earn the same as a secretary at Microsoft? Did Bill Gate create over 80,000 jobs through his ingenuity? Yes or no? If it was so easy to create a company such as Microsoft, then why are there not tens of thousands of companies the size of Microsoft? Do you understand what adding value means? Do you understand what innovation means? Lastly, if paying everyone the same, irrespective of their contribution, is such a successful concept, then why did communism fail? Why has Cuba cancelled free lunches?

  • Eterni80 - 2013-01-09 09:09

    just like the cowards that run the country..

  • delish7564 - 2013-01-09 09:14

    I would support anyone who wants a decent wage, but what really annoys me is the minimum wage was set by the Govt, yet it is the farmers who are getting it in the neck and being held responsible. Then again I suppose that suits the ANC especially in the Western Cape, after all they want the province destabilized don't they. I'm sure there are some farmers who don't pay their employees much but that applies to most countries....if you have a minimum wage that's what they'll pay, SA is no different so get on with it. Whilst people have a constitutional right to strike, they should have a right to get to work safely too. I blame the unions for most of this....they inflame the situation, not just here but elsewhere in the world too. Of course there will always be those that take advantage and they tar decent employers with the same brush, but violence is not acceptable nor the answer and those guilty of that kind of behaviour should face the full force of the law.........I would like to know how many of these protestors are really farmworkers from the Western Cape or have they magically appeared from elsewhere!!!!! The whole situation needs to be sorted out fairly....farming alone is not a profitable business and sooner or later the farmers will run out of patience and money and give up, then where will SA be......loads more people unemployed, hardly beneficial to anyone who really cares :(

  • frikkie.botes - 2013-01-09 09:17

    This is militant behavior and they need to be shot on the spot, this is an act of terrorism, Their actions are threatening the lives and livelihood of the people who voted for democracy, this act in itself is not democratic, each person has the right to work and the ANC regime is telling the people that they have no right to a future in SA. The ANC must get out of parliament. They need to stop this immediately within the next few minutes if they claim they are a democratic regime.

      vumanie.gabhisa - 2013-01-09 09:37

      U say this an act of terrorism en al those black en coloured masses need to be shot on the spot-because they fight for better wages en ultimately a better life? How far do you think these people could be pushed around and shot(on the spot as u say) before the entire nation considers that an act of war against not jst farm workers but an entire race of poor masses. Do you know how civil wars start Botes? Is that what you want Botes-a war?

      frikkie.botes - 2013-01-09 09:41

      You need to catch a wake up, do you support terrorism? Those who want to work are black and idiots are preventing them to do so. Those are terrorists, but by your name i can see you are part of the problem in SA.

      cecilia.vanderwesthuizen.5 - 2013-01-09 09:58

      I agree Frikkie. This is wrong! Now Cosatu people are preventing people who want to go to work from working.. They need that money. I say its time the workers fight back and throw a few red T-shirts with stones. Besides the farmworkers don't even make use of the union Cosatu so what the hell are cosatu doing there in the first place? Are cosatu going to take care and provide for these families if they lose their jobs?

      vumanie.gabhisa - 2013-01-09 11:10

      Looking @ ur name ryt now Frikkie Botes I can't even tel if u a male/female infant but U must be intellectually superior to be able to look @ my name and tell that I am part of the SA problem-wow wat gives it up! Coz the only thing that's clear is that its a native african name-so I wander if black is ur problem! Especially also since u suggest those people should be shot 'on the spot'

      frikkie.botes - 2013-01-09 12:06

      Simple iwe always play the racecard , never the idiot IQ of the black government who dont know squat how to run a democracy. a Government who can only teach people how to squat.

      frikkie.botes - 2013-01-09 12:11

      At least a K9 will never play the racecard even if they do run in them

  • difa.mashwama - 2013-01-09 09:18

    they (farm owners) have got money to pay private security companies owned by their friends (whites) not to pay farm workers (blacks ), it is unfair.we still have long way to go in this country.

      Dipstix Dup - 2013-01-09 09:31

      the anc has a hidden racist agenda, yet they show a face of democracy and equal rights to the outside world. Hypocrites and Liars.

      tersia.louw.12 - 2013-01-09 09:36

      Or you can look at it this way, difa.mashwama - the farmer pays a security company to protect his farm from fire and vandalism, and his family from harm during the strike. This means there actually still is a farm to be worked, afterwards, and less money to pay his employees.

      nicolas.gombert.16 - 2013-01-09 10:37

      This is EXACTLY how you destroy wealth! Employing a security guards is a non-productive cost, it does not add any value to the business, BUT it does protect the assets of the company in order to keep on operating. Destroy the assets and you destroy the ability to generate income.

  • mandy.mans.1 - 2013-01-09 09:19

    Why aren't the police helping the workers that want to work get through? Why are the strikers allowed to get away with unlawfull actions and everybody just stand and watches? The anc and cosatu are egging them on, then just sit back and watch from a safe distance. So they only care about the workers that strike and not about the ones that don't want to. They won't be helping the non strikers went their can't buy food because they couldn't get to work. They only reward bad behavour. Unions are the roat of all evil!

  • dean.braai - 2013-01-09 09:38

    COSATU went to all the farms and have paid the workers to strike! Political? Just the ANC trying to take over the Western Cape!

  • chris.khanye - 2013-01-09 09:39

    The strike seems to be affecting only the Western Cape! Do workers in the 8 ANC controlled Provinces earn better? Workers in the banana and sugar cane fields of KZN? Those in the tomato farms in Limpopo? Avocado farmers of Mpumalanga? Not that the workers in these Provinces aren't prepared to strike, buy why is Cosatu not seen actively mobilizing farm workers to go on strike in the 8 ANC controlled Provinces? Is the Department of Labour prescribing slave wages for Western Cape farm workers only? Are the farmers in the Western Cape the only employers abiding to the National Department of Labour slave wage prescription? Does the farm workers strike have anything to do with wages or is it the concerted malice of Government and Cosatu to destabilize the only Province governed by the opposition - call it total onslaught before 2014 general elections? Post 1994, who exactly is failing the farm workers Nationally - is it not the ruling party propagating, prescribing and enforcing these slave wages? Who's fooling who here?

  • PointBlank - 2013-01-09 09:46

    If these thugs weren't violent there would beno need for farmers to hire security to rightfully protect their property.

  • Dipstix Dup - 2013-01-09 09:47

    Slavery is forced labour. These workers are not forced to work there. They have a choice. Democracy and capitalism are synonymous! Willing buyer and willing seller. If the worker dont accept the wages, he/she can go and look elsewhere for better wages. Freedom of choice! So please do not say the workers are enslaved, they have a choice. Unless u mean enslaved by their own culture of ...............

      vumanie.gabhisa - 2013-01-09 10:30

      Force happens at much more complex and sublime dimensions in the present state of things- u think you can leave a job and go look elsewhere in a country wher employment is so scarce? U don't hav that choice, not when you have a family to support but that doesn't mean u should be exploited.

  • cecilia.vanderwesthuizen.5 - 2013-01-09 09:49

    Let Cosatu take care of those who can't go to work and they must also provide for the families who won't have any income after this. Its easy to destroy.. Let's see if they can handle what comes afterwards.

  • desmond.s.leaner - 2013-01-09 10:11

    Lets focus on the issue at hand..the wage dispute, the unions and Agri SA. The criminal behavior is for the authorities - and its probably thrown way out of proportion in this "report". The attitudes of on the replies here "they are stupid to see they are being used", "mechanize", "what is a living wage?" shows more about the readership than it does about the workers, the cANCer or the unions. The union should ask for the accounting books of these farmers to see what their profits really are I think.

      pws69 - 2013-01-09 10:29

      @Dez, So, bright spark, what IS the accepted living wage? This is the primary term being used to stir up emotions, the tool being used by politicians to justify militant action (which, just by the way, has resulted in two deaths so far). It is a VERY valid question, which someone with your very obviously low IQ cannot fathom. As to the answer to your question about how profitable farming is, if you had taken the time to do a little research, which is so easy in the information age we live in, you would find this information: 1994 = 70,000 farmers 2012 = 34,000 farmers 96% of all Land Redistribution farms have failed, not because blacks cannot farm, but because of the structure - held in trust - the farmers cannot access finance. These were WORKING farms that they got for nothing, and STILL they failed. Would a highly profitable enterprise fail this quickly and spectacularly? Mmmmm. No so bright are you, DezLee?

      nicolas.gombert.16 - 2013-01-09 10:44

      You are welcome to come and inspect my books, any accountant will tell you that farming is a marginal business, most farmers will make their money when they sell their farms when they retire; this is the reason why there are so few farmers left. There are no new entrants into the agricultural sector, simply because it is not profitable any more. Farmers are price takers, not price makers, I still get the same I got for my produce for the last 3 years, yet input costs like diesel, seed and electricity have increased dramatically. Like they say: How do you become a millionaire in farming? Start with 5 million.

      desmond.s.leaner - 2013-01-09 11:31

      @pws..your predictable 1980's style downplay of non-wh1te intelligence bore me...yawn. So let all these non-profit farmers sell their farms to commercial farmers and close this colonial chapter once and for all!

      pws69 - 2013-01-09 12:27

      @DezLee, I have only one comment for your facile and useless commentary. Shove your head up where the sun doesn't shine until you can make an actual contribution. Your "give me everything for free" attitude is so 2000's ANC.

  • patrick.m.vianello - 2013-01-09 10:43

    Farming started from the outset of van Riebeeck and from there the country started developing, well obviously just the Cape and then the Transvaal ,Free State and Natal areas later. The country will be destroyed due to farming going down. Farming may be a smallish enterprise compared to mining but this statement rings true, South Africa was created on farming and will be destroyed by the lack of farming!

  • richardnealejohn.underwood - 2013-01-09 10:48

    I farm tomatoes near East London my workers get R1500 per month as per laid down by the government. All the time you ave to be working out if a thing is cost effective ie you send your labourers to the river to get building sand how long does it take? Then you find that you can buy a load delivered for less...etc. MY staff are happy with their pay but the whole business falls apart if the pay goes up by much then we are forced to retrench or fold . I am reciving much higher than most for coctail tomatoes ,but stil my son is paying half the staff wages from his Salary on the reef. R1500 no rent , no pay for firewood . One sends R1000 to his parents in Transkei every month anther owns and rides a Jonway m/cycle .Slave wages ....go tell that to fools who would believe you . My message to de Doorns is this : A farm labourers job is for those thatv are not able to get a better job , if you think its the pits then it is supposed to be but it is a job if your handicapped or were to lazy to go to school thats why workers send their kids to school to improve their lot in life ,the more your boss pays the less staff he can afford so you are depriving others of jobs,where they should be redily available for the needy , or as a stop gap ,If you can call if slave wages then good for you but you re not a slave so you can bugger off to better anytime you can find better.

  • naude.andrea - 2013-01-09 11:08

    This whole situation is far more complex than the Ehrenreichs and Fransmans can fathom. R69 per day is very low, but the work ethics and productivity of these laborers are absolutely atrocious. They do not work and the farmers can not pay what they insist. IF they work better or IF they can be better trained, they will be able to understand a bit more of economics and costs on a farm. But unfortunately these people are so lowly schooled that it is not possible. AND WE ARE IN A RECESSION WITH LITTLE OR NO WORK AVAILABLE.

  • maureen.churchill.9 - 2013-01-09 11:29

    Eh, where my job. I had job, now I have no job no more. Where I gonna get money to buy food, eh not goood.

  • richardnealejohn.underwood - 2013-01-09 11:33

    stirring up at de Doorns is an opportunist because political or not ,he is dealing with those that are migrant workers in other words live around there by their wits not wanting full time employment or too utterly useless to hold down a steady job and thinks the world owes them a favour the idea now being to force the farmers to pay more to pick the crops because the farmer has to pick or loose everything. I dont blame the government ( unless its the wp thing )because they would have carefully considered the matter fr5om the side of the workers against all the other factors that are involved in Agriculture.Near t5he end of the 90's I met an Indian man up in butterworth. He was without a job because he'd worked in a big clothing factory where he was production manager and informed me that everytime they got a big order the workers ( he called them parriah dogs ) got wind of this they would go on strike for more pay holding the company to ransom. blackmail if you wish , they sucked the guts out of the company .BUY CHINESE. OH I do hope theyre hungry . They aay you get what you deserve ...( tic ) So farmers in the winelands stop paying slave wages...mechanize,mechanize,mechanise........ make them wish they were slaves )

  • mario.thysse - 2013-01-09 13:37

    They say crimes against farm Wokers,there are many whites that work for less,and they don't stike,if u whant land work for it or buy ur own.Got a lot of frends that's got no work,they go and do odd jobs to try and feed there family,hold on to what u got,because tomorrow it might be gone

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