North West miners to unify strikes

2012-11-10 18:02

Rustenburg - Mineworkers across the North West have decided to combine their strike efforts, a workers' representative said in Rustenburg on Saturday.

"We have realised the weak point of the way we are striking one by one," Sphamandla Makahanya said during an Anglo American Platinum (Amplats) strike rally at the Olympia Park Stadium.

More than a thousand striking workers were gathered at a mass rally. The crowd was singing and dancing as police in Nyalas and vans kept watch over proceedings. A police helicopter was circling overhead.

Makahanya explained that mines including Lonmin, Impala, Gold Fields KDC East and Pokeng would join the strike.

"If I'm right there are almost nine mines in total." A date has not been set yet for the unified strike. Makahanyat said it should be in January.

"We are going to plan it from today onwards," Makahanya said.

He said some mines have returned to normal operation, but planned to join the strike in the new year as their demands were still not met.

Workers would go to the African National Congress' elective conference Mangaung in December.

"We are going to Mangaung to show our anger."

He reiterated that workers could not go back to work on Monday as indicated in Amplats' latest wage offer.

"There is no way we are going to return to work."

He said Amplats offered miners a once off payment of R4 500.

"That is not our demand. That is why we refused."

Earlier a fellow representative also said workers would not return to work on Monday.

"The workers decided they won't go back to work. There are conditions that are unfavourable," Evans Ramokga said.

"The strike is still on."

On Friday Amplats management re-opened discussions on miners returning to work.

"The outcome of these discussions is that management has revised the initial offer to a once-off allowance of R4500 (gross of tax) to be paid to each qualifying employee," it said in a statement.

"[This was] comprising a R2 000 loyalty or hardship allowance and a R2 500 safe start-up allowance to be paid two weeks after employees have returned to work and have commenced actual work."

Amplats fired 12 000 workers after they failed to appear for a disciplinary hearing. They had been on a wildcat strike since September 12, demanding to be paid a minimum of R16 000 a month.

The company then offered workers a re-instatement offer, which was not accepted.

  • goeie.jaarling - 2012-11-10 18:10

    What these cave dwellers don't understand is that their skills is a dime a dozen...your salary is the price someone is willing to pay for your skills, so get a proper education and skills and you will be worth far more than R16K/month....What do you haven't got the potential to be educated and to acquire decent skills, then be thankful for the R4K and FO back to your manual labor job.

      michael.heys.3 - 2012-11-10 18:30

      A lot of educated people don't even earn R16K per month!!!

      LutherKingsley - 2012-11-10 21:01

      Like Zuma said: "we must solve problems the African way..."

      Claudia_Meads - 2012-11-11 08:32

      It strikes me (excuse the pun) - there must be thousands of unemployed, young white South African males, who would happily work for R4500/month and get free lodging, plus the attractive bonuses - notably as they will be vastly more productive than these muti slurping-, rabbit chasing (viz hallucinating) goons. They are naturally more intelligent and physically vastly fitter (e.g. not hopeless alcoholics-/drug-addicts) - thus will have levels of productivity comparable to the first world. It is becoming clearer by the day (notably to the rest of the world - eg The Economics, the Wall Street Journal, even investors within BRICS) that the National Party may have had a point...

      heathway.master - 2012-11-11 09:56

      Miners will continue to strike until their initial demand to get R16, 500 clear after all deductions. This relates to a salary of about R25, 000 a month, to basically unskilled, semi-literate workers. As an African miner has told me, the present strikers are regarded by other miners as being the least skilled on the mines, occupying the lowest rung of the employment chain. These miners are anyhow the best paid and looked after in the entire African Continent. The country has a 40% unemployment rate, and due to the world economic crises, many of the mines are running at a loss. South Africans had better brace themselves for typical African States anarchy, lawlessness, violence, death and destruction of all that has taken 100's of years to build up. As mineral production at the world’s largest mines has virtually been brought to a standstill, most marginal mines will be closed down, resulting in the loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs, both at the mines and at the thousands of satellite businesses serving the mines. All the newly unemployed will then go on a violent rampage at the loss of their only form of income. This will fuel a never ending cycle of unemployment and further violence, until SA becomes the “BASKET CASE” that so many of its people are so desperately fighting for. This has all been led by unbelievable greed, envy, and an attitude of entitlement. Such crass stupidity is unexplainable.

      heathway.master - 2012-11-11 11:20

      In previous times when the country was blessed with an educated prime minister and a functional Government, all strikers would have been fired months ago. The economic collapse of our mines would have been declared as a national emergency, and the Army would have been called out to crush the present destructive elements to the economic stability of the country. The strikers would all have been rounded up and imprisoned for revolutionary behaviour. Off course the present corrupt puppet, standard two dropout, President is only concerned with being elected for another 5 tear term of office where he can continue raping the countries coffers for his own personal gain and a live of excesses and extravagance for his fellow bunch of thieving state politicians and leaders of the inoperative and collapsing uncivil service and state organs of Government. ANC Government, all citizens of SA are so proud of ALL your achievements over the past 18 years of rule. May you rule this beautiful country forever, and further destroy its potential, each month you remain in Government.

      ed.erasmus - 2012-11-11 17:45

      These strikes are all preplanned loong time ago. It falls in place with the global economic crash. This is only the beginning, the whole country will be striking probably before the end of the year. Be prepared for economic collapse. Banks will close their doors, pensions, savings and bank accounts will not be frozen. Food and fuel wil run out between 3-7 days. Do your research on the internet. And stop watching mainstream media. They are lying to us!

  • norman.buchalter - 2012-11-10 18:34

    May they all arrive at Mangaung and hopefully they will have influenced enough of the provinces to not support JZ. Anything to get rid of Z is probably a good thing for the country.

      joe.smit.549 - 2012-11-10 18:41

      Agreed. Let's see them tackle Z, like they tackle their bosses. Just hope they have money to get there!

      konnde.bobby - 2012-11-10 18:50

      Zuma or no Zuma the strikers will lose big time, even if they vote for six presidents, it won't help, this is not a Zuma affair

  • Strikeback - 2012-11-10 18:36

    Employers. Time to stand together and fire them all at once. Clearly they have an agenda. Report them to so they can be unemployed together, forever.

      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-11-10 19:08

      They can all be future members of the South African Unemployed Workers Union............... I still can't see the purpose of SAUWU though, but they have access to the most members. Go Figure.

      terrylee.heuer - 2012-11-10 19:41

      I also see a hidden agenda here this has nothing to do with wages!!!

  • charlesmakgale.radingoane - 2012-11-10 18:48

    Wealth must be shared

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-11-10 19:01

      You mean equal poverty for all.

      Erna - 2012-11-10 19:01

      Tell that to your government - they can set the example.

      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-11-10 19:13

      WHY?........... The reward for being sucessful is wealth.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-11-10 19:25

      Agree If wealth must be shared the labour to earn it must be shared as well Some brains some brawn.

      kobus.swart.75 - 2012-11-10 20:09

      Wealth should be shared? Exactly, then your president should share big time. While he upgrade his home for R 206 000 000.00, most of the people live in poverty. So, yes, I fully agree, let's share.

      charlesmakgale.radingoane - 2012-11-10 21:50

      Pple love money more than human being.

      izak.burger.3 - 2012-11-10 22:10

      The problem with sharing all wealth, is that the one half realise quickly they can share in the wealth without doing anything. The other half learn equally quickly that there is no point in working hard, and so productivity spirals downwards until everyone grows poor. I'm not making this up. It is called communism and it has been tried a few times. It is simple arithmetic: what you give to one person without him working for it, you have take from another who has worked for it. Of course some such cross-subsidisation is necessary, especially given our past and unequal access to opportunities, but in the long run we need to move away from th8s, not towards it.

      charlesmakgale.radingoane - 2012-11-11 01:38

      What do you say when your boss is earning 10M p.a while 4.5K p.m. Who is digging this wealth. Labour has been shared but not equally.

  • braamc - 2012-11-10 18:57

    Strike till you have no job, no food, f all. Make my day!

  • lerumo.mkhonto.3 - 2012-11-10 18:58

    Far too many are getting payed far more for doing nothing but sit in air-conditioned offices. How many of your "clever ilk" are failing to deliver basic services. These miners at least when they are underground they produce the minerals which are the backbone of this country, for what? Live in shacks and not afford to take their children to dissent school.

      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-11-10 19:17

      They don't produce the minerals, they only sell their muscule to remove it. Some have brains, others have brawn.

      lovemore.masikane - 2012-11-10 20:41

      U making mistake not all mhners fools or cant read and write

      Claudia_Meads - 2012-11-10 22:55

      lovemore.masikane, No "U making mistake", "all mhners" ARE "fools or cant read and write" - fist go back to primary school and legitimately pass first grade, before you demonstrate (here) to the entire world what a "full" you are.

      ed.erasmus - 2012-11-11 17:37

      It is called "legal slave labour". I agree. This is BS that the suits make huge salaries. Rich people say, I worked very hard for what I, accieved. That is bollock's. How many people did he pay meagre salaries to make his millions. That....... my fellow South Africans is Legal Slave Labour. I can gaurantee that most of the people reading this thread is in the same position. You work for a company that is very wealty and the boys on top are the ones with holiday homes, boats, planes, fast cars etc. Who helped them get there?..... YOU. Now wake up and change this nonsence. The miners are doing it, what is wrong with us white South Africans.

  • Erna - 2012-11-10 18:59

    Someone should now bring this situation to an end. Either they get fired or return to work! Where have you heard that mineworkers should get R16k? That's more than teachers and nurses get and they have qualifications. Come on be realistic!

  • Rodney - 2012-11-10 19:01

    were was num and cosatu for solitarity.. NORMAN, Or they focus on mangaung.., lets be brave to fight the working class. Mangaung here we come. The force of the working class. As a public servent we are next we want we want money no more percentage.

  • ianon.ym - 2012-11-10 19:05

    Unprecedented what is happening here - the looser is SA as a whole.

  • Riaan Venter - 2012-11-10 19:09

    fire all of them, a lot of people live in poverty and would be gratefull for a job

  • Riaan Venter - 2012-11-10 19:14

    or better yet bomb all the mines shut and take business out of SA that will put an end to it all and SA will be the next Zim sooner than anticipated

  • Leonard Mokgotlhwe - 2012-11-10 19:15

    U must bring along your Muti we will make another Marikana in Mangaung

  • ontlhabanetsesteve.baepile - 2012-11-10 19:23

    Anglo workers do it yourself at impala we asked no help.

      jay.ramodiana - 2012-11-10 19:34

      Sorry we did not ask for your help when we striked at Impala early this year

  • kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-10 19:47

    This is the consequences of no or poor education. They are all going to end up with no jobs at all.

  • sebatane.senyori - 2012-11-10 19:56

    this unification gonna make sense this time around

  • ontlhabanetsesteve.baepile - 2012-11-10 19:58

    Ramodiana when so why organising national anglo help strike.

  • ontlhabanetsesteve.baepile - 2012-11-10 20:12

    Jay Ramodiana why no Anglo workers organising ango mass help strike?

  • sanzasonny - 2012-11-10 20:55

    It is within miners to withdraw their labour given what they are paid and the squalid conditions they live under.But to descend into anarchy and violate the country's labour laws drafted by our own democratic state, is course for serious concern. Miners on strike behave as if they are owed the money they are demanding.They have become rude, arrogant,belligerent and think the mines belong to them. When they would find themselves jobless, that is when they would realise that nobody owes them anything. The majority of them don't have a decent education and yet they dream to earn more that people with tertiary education. The mines are the property of all South Africans. They do not own the mines ! Why don't they form their own political party and see how many people will follow mannerless, uneducated greedy miners and their secret sponsors ?

  • hdejager3 - 2012-11-10 22:26

    let them just f..... up SA they almost there we. will pick up the pieces and rebuild it no education what sense is there every time u want u go and burn down schools etc come on who is leading them im telling u fat Boy Juju is behind it

  • irvin.mkhari - 2012-11-11 01:57

    is where nationalization of mines is important 51% SA govt and 49% outsiders,SA govt need to own majority in order to pay our follow African brothers from cheap labour that came with Americans,europeans and Britishes.

      el.torro.509 - 2012-11-11 10:24

      who will invest in africa with diminished returns like that? Having said that im not opposed to giving people a living wage this isnt victorian england

      kgomotso.sentsho - 2012-11-13 14:59

      So you trust the government will pay them handsomely? How will that work When this government can't even take care of the one most important thing which is education? Do you not realize how corrupt these people are? Did you see what happended in Lenasia? Goverment made a good decision, ppl are stranded? Now the homes that were demolished gotta be funded again.Do you know that mine taxes accounts for a huge percentage of the government income. Take 51% control. They loose out on that revenue. You know whats gonna happen? We gonna suffer cos we gon have to pay higher taxes. My Fellow South African, foreign investment=growth. Google China, you'll see what I'm talking about and read the pro's and cons of nationalization. U'll think twice before you say its that way to go.I can take the whole day explaining my view on this but I have to bounce...#excuse grammar

  • thelma.flynn.96 - 2012-11-11 07:34

    It is so obvious that these people do not want to work. So the only answer is to fire them if they then get out of hand damned well shoot and shoot to kill

  • marilyn.docherty.9 - 2012-11-11 08:27

    Soon mining operations will have to cease completely and then there will be no jobs for any of the miners!!!

  • ed.erasmus - 2012-11-11 17:25

    Government need to be overthrown, Bankers need to be locked up. (because of securitisation and the pyramid scam they call banking.)Go look at Iceland. The Miners and all middle to lower income group South Africans need to be paid way more than what we are getting at the moment. Mines must be taken away from the filthy rich international globalist scum. It is our resources. People open your eyes we are being robbed on our own land. The miners are at least doing something to get some revenue back into our country. What are you doing to help. This is going on the whole world over, we are not unique, stop watching tv and check the internet what is really happening. RT is the only news station that tells the truth. I disagree to the violent protests but we need to change this fraudulent system. We all ned to change it.

  • karabo.moeng.73 - 2012-11-13 18:00

    u ppl dnt no wat u talked about if you can separate politics from strike ull understand @ claudia meads its true there are thousands of white ppl who can work undergound for 4500 per month in your mine coz ua talking just because u like to comment nah at the mines u can count white guys who work underround they a less than 5 doing hard labour this ppl are fighting for, dnt be tricked by those who tell you that it easy down there they come and cnt blv they dnt last maximum spent is less than 2 years they are quitters, so this guys[strikers] know the pain of that work, so dnt just comment because ua sitting in front of a pc and get pissed by what is written there go out and experience the hardship that works at, to help you in a simpler way go look for documentaries about mineworkers coz u cnt go to the mines and see, separate politics ad the hardship life of those guys, they live in cages why because if they can have a decent wage they will move out caves, so u ppl u think commenting venting anything out of you mouths think u can solve this nah you are lying keep on talking but at the end the miners and their management will settle their differences, DO YOU THINK THOSE MINING BOSSES OR STRIKERS READ YOUR COMMENTS THEY DONT EVEN KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT THEM

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