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Only Afrikaners allowed on farm settlement

2013-05-22 10:34

Johannesburg - The people of Kleinfontein, near Pretoria, have vowed that only Afrikaners will be allowed to live in their farming settlement, The Times reported on Wednesday.

Everyone living there, from the security guards at the gate to the gardeners, was Afrikaans, the newspaper reported.

The Gauteng legislature's portfolio committee on community safety was reportedly told last year that black police officers were not being allowed inside the enclave.

Its controlling body's chairperson Jan Groenewald told The Times that a resident had to be "an Afrikaner with Voortrekker heritage, a Protestant Christian and abide by the Blood River covenant".

'Culture'

"We do not think in terms of race, we think in terms of culture... [but] you cannot ignore the fact that we have different races. That is the reality," he was quoted as saying.

Its residents included the leaders of several rightwing groups, but they were kept in line by the community's directors, he reportedly said.

"We do not fly the South African flag because [South Africa] is a unitary state - the reason we find ourselves in this situation."

According to The Times, Groenewald said the community would lobby the Tshwane municipality for the settlement to be declared independent.

"Eventually, the African National Congress government will have to approve what we are doing here."

Comments
  • James Lapepa Mokoka - 2013-05-22 10:40

    when you start thinking that apartheid is diminishing, it gets quarantined and bred again. This is not going to stop. It is just another reinforcements. Orania now Kleinfontein.

      JD Weilbach - 2013-05-22 10:50

      Kindly tell me how this is any different to the ANC's AA, BEE, EE policies? The rabid black-nationalist afro-fascist post-Polokwane-'07 created an Apartheid state worse than under the NP.

      Carl Harding - 2013-05-22 12:24

      Then let them quarantine themselves

      Russel Meyer - 2013-05-22 12:34

      @James: you are spot on, and JD Weilbach just proved your point. Saying SA is worse now than under the NP is simply the unearned priviledge of white SA speaking - and it is disgusting and sickening to hear.

      Robert Cerff - 2013-05-22 12:39

      It's private property, they should be allowed to admit and restrict who ever they want - for any reason they wish. That is afterall, both the right to ownership of land and freedom of association.

  • Evan JP Britz - 2013-05-22 10:44

    its his farm if he doesnt want non afrikaners in his farm settlement let him be its his choice not yours.

  • Terence Wessels - 2013-05-22 10:47

    Well I can't say I think this is the way forward, but this is not apartheid. They are not forcing anyone to live seperately, they choose to do so by free will. So what? Let them.

  • Pule Lepitla - 2013-05-22 10:48

    As long they don't harm anyone why not? But atleast police should be allowed...

  • Obed Majoko - 2013-05-22 10:49

    This goes a long way to show you what will happen if some race groups can take control of the government. They are pure racists although they try to put it in a different way. I am looking forward to seeing more comments on this. Please come out of your shell and declare publicly if you support this rubbish.

      Marc Ross - 2013-05-22 11:02

      I support it. I am white from English decent and I may not live there. But I dont feel offended. If people wan't to choose with whom they assosiate that is fine. I cant join the Black Editors Forum or the Black Bussiness Assosiation. So what? This is private property.

      Puple LeMoo - 2013-05-22 11:13

      Inherently nothing to do with race. That particular community has been incredibly selective for many, many years. Even under the NP government they were exclusive. If a white person did not meet the criteria exactly (even ancestry was /is checked) then they could / can forget about it. If they broke the rules, they were kicked out. It is more of a cult of culture and language. A little bit odd.

  • Gifted Moyo - 2013-05-22 10:50

    This will be an interesting case study. Will independence mean, they provide their own water, electricity, health services, fire, schools etc? Will they get support from outside? This is more like a Robinson Crusoe complex. Interacting with other races and cultures can only advance the whole off humanity. Every race or culture has borrowed something from another. Let these guys isolate themselves for a while and lets see what happens.

  • Bongeka - 2013-05-22 10:53

    What's a matter with these segregations in the name of culcural differences? Some people just can't free themselves from the apartheid residue.

  • Obed Majoko - 2013-05-22 10:56

    What happened to all the comments that were posted

  • Lynn Hattingh - 2013-05-22 10:57

    Here we go again fanning the fires of hatred and racism and leaving the rest of us to deal with it.

  • Lunga - 2013-05-22 10:57

    And South Africa was not a unitary state under apartheid?

  • Jack Maseng - 2013-05-22 10:57

    I don't have beef against them it is their choice, they could raise the old flag, practice inbreeding, wear white cloth on their heads and even burn crosses this is a free country after all. But when they don't respect laws of the land like hide tax dodgers or criminal on their property then we can bring any law enforcers to their premises, simple not complicated!

  • bcluley - 2013-05-22 10:59

    just as how the goverment is taking away our freedom of choice when it comes to compulsary "indigenous" languages in schools .these farmers have a right to do this

  • Obed Majoko - 2013-05-22 11:02

    This is really dissappointing to say the least. We are in an era where we are trying to work together and live together as people of GOD but some people still behave like this.

  • Terence Wessels - 2013-05-22 11:02

    They want to live seperate from blacks on private property? So what? Nothing wrong, let them.

  • Luanda Gqirana - 2013-05-22 11:05

    Imagine if they are not allowed out of the farm, how bored will they be? These people are too dramatic lol.

  • Frans Jacobs - 2013-05-22 11:06

    If you have a problem with what they are doing, then its your problem. Why say they are racist? Is it because they are white? Well sir, im sorry to say that you are the racist for thinking in such terms. No every thing is about race. If they want to have their own comunity, let them. Its also not racist to look after your race... getting tired of people playing the damn race card all the time. Grow up and move on with your own life, no one is forcing you to do any thing.

  • Bongeka - 2013-05-22 11:06

    News24 shouldn't have published this article if they knew that they're going to hold back or delete our comments. If it was about ANC or Zuma,comments wouldn't have been deleted. Mnxxx.

  • Silenta Solly - 2013-05-22 11:07

    Hahahaha there way there are no comments on this story is amusing, you gota love white news24 bloggers......if it was black people there would've been probably 200 comments by now

  • Donovan Hendricks - 2013-05-22 11:08

    I do not condone what the are doing,but what about the countless incidents where black people refused coloured people to take possesion of their RDP houses for being coloured? An incident like this recently occured in the town Of Tulbagh for instance.A couple of years ago a school teacher from Mitchells Plain was barred from moving into the house he purchased in Khayalithsha.These are only a few instances,but it happens all the time especially where RDP houses are allocated where black people point blankly refuse to allow people of other races to take possesion of their homes on the Cape Flats.

  • Mariana Barry - 2013-05-22 11:16

    "what you are doing here" is: Holding back, holding on and hindering our future. If your are over 60, I have sympathy, but younger than that should wake up and smell the roses. In my grandparents days, it was a huge issue if you married a "Rooinek" But times has changed and is still changing. Keep up and contribute positively

  • Hein Olivier - 2013-05-22 11:18

    I say grant them their independance and then deny them all work permits. Let us be rid of them

  • Patricia Dewet - 2013-05-22 11:19

    What happened to my comment. Let them be, I wont allow anybody into my house or property. If this the way they chose to live, why make an issue of it. I do not think they will allow a Japanese in their because of the culture difference. Do black people want to go and live there? for what reason, to be save?

  • Sizwe Shozi - 2013-05-22 11:22

    this is a democratic country...

  • Lynn Hattingh - 2013-05-22 11:23

    News 24 what has happened to my comments or is this a one sided conversation?

  • Patricia Dewet - 2013-05-22 11:28

    Still scared to post my comment and the funny thing is I said nothing wrong, not like Galada. He was racist.

  • Jurgen Eksteen - 2013-05-22 11:29

    Well as long as it's private property, I guess the owners can do as they wish.

  • Gruntus Maximus - 2013-05-22 11:30

    Just like the Mormons in the US, the gypsies in Europe, they arent hurting anyone, they arent trying to recruit, they arent taking frm anyone. what exactly is the prooblem with it

  • Aroka Murombe - 2013-05-22 11:33

    Someone tel me this is no joke....... Classic

  • Elske Joubert - 2013-05-22 11:33

    Eish.

  • Alan Gernet - 2013-05-22 11:35

    meanwhile, In Nkandlaville....

  • BurningdogZ - 2013-05-22 11:41

    You know, not so long ago a couple of lads died due to a tradition, and the cries of outraged were muffled by the cries of "leave us alone, respect our culture", oh and then the glorious "I am not allowed to intervene because I am a woman and in my culture . . .". Well now this is interesting. Quite frankly I don't see any problem with this as long as they abide by the laws. They are not engaging in hunting people of different races, they are trying to build a community of people that have the same heritage, religion and traditions. Trying to put a law on it, well, that might be a bit too . . . shall we say, "old school". Oh and for those throwing huge tantrums about not being able to go there . . .have you ever been there before? Do you really WANT to go there now? Oh, one last thought, that farm is private property right? Wasn't that the reason why the DA and friends couldn't visit Nkandla not so long ago? So in fairness, before you start calling them names, just remember every insult is directed to the president and family as well becuase they started it.

  • Derek John Main - 2013-05-22 11:45

    Part of the problem, not part of the solution.

  • Gregory Hill - 2013-05-22 11:45

    I personally don't agree with this mentality, but for the guy shouting voetsek at the top, tell me how many Xhosas, vembas, whites etc live in a Zulu village? While I think what these whites are doing is disgraceful and in no ways do I condone it or think they are right in what they are doing, don't African tribes do the same thing? I long for a day when all South Africans are treated equal and where we actually do all unite

  • Briana Scott - 2013-05-22 11:49

    hmmmmm.... quite honestly I have mixed feelings. I guess they feel they have the right to a safe environment and this is their solution. Because for the rest of South Africa we have to live in the midst of monstrous madness with no support or protection from the police. No more mixed feelings, Good on Them - I hope it works out. I would love a Safe Haven.

  • Katriena Swartz - 2013-05-22 11:51

    Wouldn’t live there, even if they pay me to.

  • Khwezi Shange - 2013-05-22 11:59

    weirdly enough i find myself approving this.

  • Blou Boer - 2013-05-22 12:02

    Wonder what the crime rate is there?

  • Don Master - 2013-05-22 12:04

    Lol! South Africa is becoming a Banana Republic, and now these people want their own BoereWors Republic. Interesting times indeed.

  • Rudolph Opperman - 2013-05-22 12:18

    Hey Mr. Moderator, do you have something against me?

  • Abraham De Villiers - 2013-05-22 12:19

    Well I suppose it must be constitutionally acceptable - if we can have a Black Lawyer's Accociation and a Black Taxi Association, why not this?

  • Quiva Mguca - 2013-05-22 12:19

    After decades of oppression and 19 years of democracy we still love to hate each other.

  • Jeremy David Acton - 2013-05-22 12:20

    Their community, Their choice. No established cultural or religious community should be forced to accept just anybody.

  • Mike Stevens - 2013-05-22 12:23

    Sigh...This is not racism, its just separatism. If a group of people decide to settle somewhere and secede completely away from their government, they are seen as a seperate entity, able to create their own laws and govern themselves in their own right. So if i decide to start my own colony and exclude anyone older than 30, it is not discrimination, it is a matter of personal preference. However, that being said, should they choose to secede, they therefore cannot enjoy the benefits/protection that the south african government will offer to its citizens (not that it offers much anyway). Rights of Admission Reserved can apply to any private property as long as it is owned by an individual/group of individuals

  • Andile Msweli - 2013-05-22 12:24

    Let them be who cares anyway

  • SpiritWarrior - 2013-05-22 12:27

    If they want to live with their own people then let them.

  • Graham Jehoma - 2013-05-22 12:38

    en die kat kom weer en hy wil nie langer, die kat kom weer die volgende dag.....is this true in 2013?

  • Paul Thabane - 2013-05-22 13:14

    Zzzzzz!

  • Marius Coetzer - 2013-05-22 13:23

    I wonder if my white afrikaans speaking gay friends will be welcome?

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