Opposition party group off to Marikana

2012-08-20 08:41

Johannesburg - A delegation of opposition party leaders intends visiting Marikana, in the North West, where 34 miners were killed in a shooting, the Congress of the People said in a statement.

"The purpose of the visit is to do inspection in loco, in order to ascertain what transpired during the industrial action last week," said acting Cope deputy general secretary Mokgadi Raganya.

"The delegation is intending to meet with union leaders, SAPS and mine management as part of their visit.

"This will be followed by a visit to the families of the deceased and the injured in hospital."

The visit is expected to be conducted on Monday.

The delegation was to be led by Cope president Mosiuoa Lekota. He will be joined by the Democratic Alliance's Wilmot James, Raganya and Willie Madisha from Cope, Nhlanla Msimango from the IFP, the PAC's Letlapa Mphahlele and Bennet Joko, UDM leader Bantu Holomisa, the ACDP's Kenneth Meshoe, Jake Dikobo and Strike Thokwane from Azapo and the United Christian Democratic Party's M Moerane.

  • julian.booyens - 2012-08-20 08:49

    This group will find answers in one day faster than the anc could, please don't neglect the other 10 murdered people and their families as well

      msendi - 2012-08-20 09:04

      These people left their homes with pangas and machetes and no one even bother to tell them that whatever they were doing is irresponsible, dangerous and 100% illegal. Many lives lost and every politician is going there to score some points… I hope they will come with the solution to avoid the similar situation in future …

      gerald.nchabeleng - 2012-08-20 09:39

      Castigate me, it is your right to, but does this not feel like a reaction not to the incidence itself but to Julius going there? @ msendi.. you are very right...i for one blame their union itself for failing to control its constituents. you are right the cops must defend themselves but why the heck is no one complaining about our crowd control and riot management...surely the police can improve in such to avoid future sharpvilles?

      hendrikvs - 2012-08-20 09:51

      Is it homophobic Johan raising an opinion here? And we are suppose to take it serious?

      arthur.hugh - 2012-08-20 09:54

      It's just a big fat photo opportunity to gain some limelight.

      kelvyn.davidson.1 - 2012-08-20 10:38

      @beki how is it possible to draw a parallel between Farm murders which is as plain as day light a hate crime and an attempt to undermine confidence in whites in SA, yes I also accept that Farmers are also vulnerable due to their "out of the way" living, but that means these murderers also have to travel vast distance to perpetrate these crimes, this is intent ! I am sorry and appalled at the crime acted out against your father and your family. My take on all and any politician getting on the band wagon, is show boating, this was a volotile situation from the moment that 1, ONE miner, or police officer was killed, where was the political will then, where was the ANC, DA, SACP etc when this was about to kick off? they can do nothing and achieve nothing, it is a race to show face, he who gets there first wins !! a sad show of political spin doctoring

  • michael.vanrheenen.9 - 2012-08-20 08:52

    I wonder why the murdered white farmers are not getting the same attention that these miners are getting?

      George - 2012-08-20 09:07

      Simple. No political capital. White is bad. Black is good in the cANCerous world. All well-meaning South Africans, including the vast majority of innocent black people trying to make an honest living must stop feeding the monster that devours them. Civil disobedience on a massive scale is required as shown by Gandhi many years ago.

      beki.khumalo - 2012-08-20 09:08

      Michael, do you expect government officials and opposition political parties to personally attend every crime scene in the country? Farm murders, whether the victims are white or black, remain just another tragic incident of crime in SA! Daily, people are killed in townships of this country, the death rate in poverty stricken townships is far worse in comparison to farm murders. Please rid yourself of this tendency to hijack every debate and turn it into a racial one, as if the ANC doesn't care about white victims of crime in this country. There's this belief that some of you are bent on driving, that there is a 'white genocide' in SA. There's no such! Stop treating yourself as victims! \r\nThe Marikana tragedy is of a different nature and derseves the attention that it is receiving, respect that please.

      Johan De Beer - 2012-08-20 09:17

      Bheki you are talking nonsense. Farm murders is a hate crime against a race group. Murders in townships is regular crime.

      grant.hide - 2012-08-20 09:19

      1000 dead? Can't remember, I have lost count. Nothing compared to how many will die of starvation from their killing the hand that feeds them.

      Johan De Beer - 2012-08-20 09:19

      And Bheki, I honestly, honestly believe that the ANC does not care about whites being killed.

      msendi - 2012-08-20 09:20

      @beki.khumalo… You are just wasting your time. Leave these people with their mindset… They are only dangerous to themselves…

      michael.vanrheenen.9 - 2012-08-20 09:21

      @ beki.khumalo - Oh really now? I have not heard one minister or MP condemning these racial murders! The ANC simply does not care what happens to the feeders of this nation! It's no wonder there are so many whites emigrating when they can afford to. Us non rich whites just have to put up with this crap...

      rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-08-20 09:22

      beki: There is a common thread running through incidents such as violations of person and property (farms, houses, businesses) and public rioting (Marikana etc); and that is the use of high levels of violence to achieve an outcome. It seems to me to be totally appropriate to expose all potential examples of violent behaviour in order to better understand the disfunctional mentality of the perpetrators and determine how to eliminate (well, reduce to an unacceptable minimum) this behaviour from society.

      michael.vanrheenen.9 - 2012-08-20 09:24

      @ msendi - Mindset??? Do you honestly not see what is happening around you? Or are you just one of those ignorant blacks??? Wake up man! It's not a mindset... It's REALITY!!!! This ANC government cares nothing for the whites... Shot the boer is the only language they understand!

      thamsanqa.magolego - 2012-08-20 09:24

      It's common sense because it was recorded just like that gang rape of that other girl few months ago and to some of you that think this is some racial thing then why was it headlining around the world were those people black too?Geez get over yourselves its boring now!

      beki.khumalo - 2012-08-20 09:28

      @Johan, what proof do you have that farm murders are driven by racial hatred? Do not incite unecessary racial tensions based on unfounded assumptions please. If you're basing the amount violence attached when these robberies occur in farms, then trust me the same amount of violence is carried on all other members of our society! We've all been affected by violent crime. In 2001 my father was hijacked in Cape Town, they tortured him for his bank card pin, shot him in the legs and drove around with him. When they were eventually done, they shot him in the face and dumped him in the bushes. He crawled to the roadside, that's how he survived! That's gruesome, isn't it? Is it skin colour based? NO! Stop playing the victim card Johan!

      michael.vanrheenen.9 - 2012-08-20 09:32

      @ beki.khumalo - Proof??? If they go to the farms, rape the woman, kill everybody and then take nothing! That's your proof! Why else would they go to these farms?

      magdaleen.smuts - 2012-08-20 09:36

      Michael. As a white woman I am saddened by farm killings, but also by ALL other killings. But I am also sick and tired of white people screaming farmkillings alone. Farmers are easy targets. If there were any statistics you will find that so many children, men and women get killed everywere, and the ratio would be not that different. What I would like to see more than anything is that we would shout out loud against all killings regardless.!!!! You have a voice. The small child being raped and mutilated do not have voice, use your voice for them as well. Stop this rasist finger pointing. This is 2 totally seperate issues

      msendi - 2012-08-20 10:00

      @michael.vanrheenen.9 … You mindset exactly… what magdaleen.smuts is saying is true, but to you she is ignorant…

      thamsanqa.magolego - 2012-08-20 10:02

      Also the issue in south africa is that the murder rate is alarmingly high I've heard of so many stories where a black person was killed and nothing taken from them...what about the killings of lesbians and gays in cape town? There was no week of mourning either when that white guy went into some informal settlement and killed black people he was even given the right to get married... I hate how every situation becomes a white and black thing

      arthur.hugh - 2012-08-20 10:11

      Beki - 2011 statistics the murder rate was 72 to 75 per year out of an active population of 37 000 and a total of approximately 3000 farmers in the last 18 years. That means in the next 200 years 37000 farmers in South Africa will be murdered - that's two generations. I would say it's definitely cause for alarm.

  • Leonore Engelbrecht - 2012-08-20 08:53

    shameless lobbying for votes! shameless!!

  • keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-08-20 08:54

    But no one will take any notice. With the anc already on the job, the promised judicial enquiry will be delayed until the anc's enquiry has placed the blame on whoever it doesn't like.

  • joe.peters.56 - 2012-08-20 08:58

    Vote DA

      Johan De Beer - 2012-08-20 09:13

      Ant they should very well fire them

      Johan De Beer - 2012-08-20 09:14

      ...I mean "and"

      thamsanqa.magolego - 2012-08-20 09:26

      Janine I've never voted for anc and I'm not starving at all btw.

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-20 09:39

      @thamsanga, out of interest, would you never vote for the DA because their leader is white or because you dont agree with their policies?

      thamsanqa.magolego - 2012-08-20 09:52

      @nigel I don't have a problem with helen she's ticked me off before but I think though that the da still has a long way to go if they can't deliver in the wc what would make me believe that they'd deliver as a government

  • lownabester - 2012-08-20 08:59

    Dont believe they will receive a hero's welcome.

      shaun.cousins1 - 2012-08-20 09:02

      which tells me malema was behind of of this...

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-08-20 09:02

    These were not miners that were kild.If 1 undrstands the atrocious conditions that they work under,distant frm their families to enrich fatcat iimperialist in london.These are modern day slaves!it wud b in bad taste to make fun of them.

      bennie.marais.9 - 2012-08-20 09:07

      Don't complain over making other counties rich, this is what you voted for...right? Also the reason that we have become a state of emergency!

      Johan De Beer - 2012-08-20 09:12

      Slaves - wahahahaa! Funny.

  • jackie.stone.501 - 2012-08-20 09:07

    Attention seekers is too late, what are you going there for. What is done is done and could not be reversed

  • beki.khumalo - 2012-08-20 09:12

    I take issue with those who want to hijack this tragic incident and turn it into a racial one!!! White farm murders this, white farm murders that! Do you expect government officials and opposition political parties to personally attend every crime scene in the country? Farm murders, whether the victims are white or black, remain just another tragic incident of crime in SA! Daily, people are killed in townships of this country, the death rate in poverty stricken townships is far worse in comparison to farm murders. Please rid yourself of this tendency to hijack every debate and turn it into a racial one, as if the ANC doesn't care about white victims of crime in this country. There's this belief that some of you are bent on driving, that there is a 'white genocide' in SA. There's no such! Stop treating yourself as victims! \r\nThe Marikana tragedy is of a different nature and derseves the attention that it is receiving, respect that please.

      George - 2012-08-20 09:26

      So, where is your sense of outrage, for your black brothers?? Every life is precious, why disparage those that care about their fellow human beings?. There is no question, given the extent of killings of whites by blacks, not just farmers but people in suburbs, malls, places of business, that there is a tacit programme of genocide. Any government concerned about its oppressed, racially discriminated and financially abused minority would behave with concern, compassion and justice. Where is the evidence of that?

      beki.khumalo - 2012-08-20 09:42

      @George, I have condemed the actions of the miners in other articles in this regard. I feel for the families of the deceased, however thugs are thugs and I'm with the SAPS on this. Those people were armed, and earlier in the week they had brutaly murdered 10 people including police. Don't misunderstand my statement my friend!\r\nMy issue here is with exactly what you just did, 'blacks killing whites'! Your reasoning insights racial devisions. Crime knows no skin colour! We have all been affected by crime, there's nothing special about farm murders. We all contribute to the well being of this country, don't expect special treatment from government! We are ALL murdered by barbaric thugs with no morals! And only a racially charged person will choose to put skin colour to this! There are various examples of 'white on white' brutal and violent crimes! It's just crime!

  • thamsanqa.magolego - 2012-08-20 09:13

    I suggest a young intelligent person who has everyone's interest at heart to come up with a party that we can join because I\ll never vote for ANC or DA or COPE otherwise the anc will always win :(

      rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-08-20 09:29

      Your criteria ensure that any suitable candidate will be buried by the incompetent, criminal, protected species with power and influence today......not that there will be many who qualify in the first place!

  • thabo.modiba.7 - 2012-08-20 09:13


  • dhavandran.palavar - 2012-08-20 09:14

    join the dots .... numw ....cosato.....ANC. whos's to gain the most from ths?

  • bennie.marais.9 - 2012-08-20 09:15

    Truly, I do not see any sence in the visit by any political party. Is is clear what happened - bloodthirsty hooligans charged cops and got shot in self deffense! No need for adding additional chapters to this story!

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-08-20 09:23

    @johandebeer,try being a slave wen ur arrogant mind has sum time,nd u can tell me how funny it is!

  • sean.murphy.165 - 2012-08-20 09:25

    It makes me sick that these rioting, rampaging criminals are now getting so much sympathy. Let us not forget that they had murdered 10 people and were on the attack against the police.

  • phosa.peter2 - 2012-08-20 09:42

    May the deligation tell the workers to refrain from the unions pls. nd look at allternave way to negotiate with the employer instead of trusting power-hungry(unions) to use them as the ascalators..

  • johan.maree.5036 - 2012-08-20 09:43

    Isn't it strange that all political parties seem to be able to work together, with relative ease, while the anc can't or won't work with anyone?

  • Sakhiwo - 2012-08-20 09:51

    Hope they not going there just to gain political scores,we are mourning death of our brothers here

      hendrikvs - 2012-08-20 10:02

      Well at least they are taking an interest. I did not see any evidence that his honourable Mr President took the effort to visit the area.

  • Cosmic - 2012-08-20 09:54

    Will you be visting the slain, hacked-to-death, policemens family members too? Please don't forget the security guards.Oh and while you are at it, the 2 Policemen who died on Sunday too...

  • tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-08-20 09:58

    while Zuma could not even visit "the mountain" dissapointed at the Government and the President - the less said about the Commisionera and the Minister of Minerals the better, way to go Opposition.Zuma brings disgrace to the movement

  • busane.khasibe - 2012-08-20 11:08

    If Zuma was a people's president would have done the same.... Our useless president again proving himself that he doesn't care about people

  • amelia.basson - 2012-08-20 14:37

    3000 heavily weaponed rioters (who have already SAVAGELY hacked & murdered POLICE & SECURITY MEN during their strike), storm 234 policemen (who are PETRIFIED) shoot in defense and now the strikers (who threatened that they will fight for life & death) are treated as victims & heroes? To top it off, everybody is milking the situation dry for their own benefit and the ones who caused all this, walks away richer because platinum prices are soaring as we speak? What happened to justice? Why are the rioting, striking, police murderering, "workers" not held accountable?

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