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Orphanage 'too white' for donations

2012-12-07 09:41

Johannesburg - A Pretoria orphanage says it is no longer getting financial support from large companies as 70% of the children in its care are white.

Elzane van der Merwe of the Jacaranda children’s home said: “The only answer that the children’s home is getting is: ‘Sorry, you don’t meet the criteria for 100% black economic empowerment (BEE),” reported Beeld.

But Van der Merwe said the children’s home couldn’t choose which children to take in.

“To us a child is a child. We don’t discriminate. Here we have 250 children between 18 months and 18 years that need care, regardless of race or gender.”

She said that even though the department of trade and industry had withdrawn the new suggested BEE codes, welfare organisations countrywide were still affected.

The suggested codes award points to companies for their BEE programmes and donations.

She said their income had dropped drastically due to the BEE codes, even though there was an increase in the children that needed care.

The home only looks after children placed in its care by court order.

 

Comments
  • warwick.railton.7 - 2012-12-07 09:48

    DISGUSTING..............

      Desilusionada - 2012-12-07 11:25

      PDI (Previously Disadvantaged Individual). People that during apartheid did not have a job, education, a house, a car, like all whites apparently did. So today: When a PDI gets a degree, why is s/he not now classified as advantaged? When a PDI gets a job, why is s/he not now classified as advantaged? When a PDI gets a house, why is s/he not now classified as advantaged? When a PDI gets a car, why is s/he not now classified as advantaged? When a PDI gets a government post, why is s/he not now classified as advantaged? When a PDI gets a seat on the company board, why is s/he not now classified as advantaged? When a PDI gets to become a Minister or President, why is s/he not now classified as advantaged? When a person today has what was denied previously, then why is s/he continuously advantaged? When will the government discover that the average poor man could not care about past, current or future [dis]advantaged people, as the employment status of 9% of the population does not matter to an empty stomach or the poor with unfulfilled expectations? But that the willingly offered expertise of the said 9% (the bit that is left over), could matter? And that hungry children of all colour, are the same......

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-12-07 11:48

      @Desilusionada: Because of the colour of the skin. It is also the only way they can "compete". They have to legislate themselves into power.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-12-07 12:18

      @grantcallaway: That is correct. By cANCer rasist law, donate to black orphanages or don't donate at all.

  • flysouth - 2012-12-07 09:49

    Racism by government, taken to the extreme!

      kuno.tschumi.5 - 2012-12-07 11:39

      @grant - be careful people get jail terms for spilling a drink on that moron. you may would be executed if you vomited on him... but i agree with your sentiments.

  • pietandmel - 2012-12-07 09:50

    It is a crying shame that adults can be so childish

  • renier.lombard.9 - 2012-12-07 09:50

    Oh my goodness, this is absolutely disgraceful. These are young children that had nothing to do with apartheid and yet they are paying for it. How can this country expect to raise children with a different mindset when such rules are opposed upon them.

  • Lucky - 2012-12-07 09:50

    this is the most abhorent racism imaginable. Mr Mandela, this is the legacy your party is going to leave you, everything you despised. the shame that is the anc today, my goodness, how tragic.

      mfrater - 2012-12-07 11:13

      .. and yet they will be voted back in, again and again.

  • adrian.boshoff - 2012-12-07 09:51

    I'm telling you, us whiteys must start boycotting businesses that have a BEE only policy. They won't employ unless you are previously disadvantaged etc. let the politicians start rethinking BEE...

      adrian.boshoff - 2012-12-07 10:01

      This should be sent to the HRC - Human Rights Commission

      mark.a.fysh - 2012-12-07 12:16

      Woollies comes to mind.

      gordon.freedman.35 - 2012-12-07 12:26

      I agree with you take this to the constitutional court as i feel this infringes on the rights of children, if we all are up in arms about the corporal punishment and right of children why don't we do this against this discrimination on the grounds of race. Children and children and are innocent adults are the ones that corrupt their train of thought as they grow up and learn prejudice from adults.

      nicholas.watson.583 - 2012-12-07 12:36

      How much is it going to take in this economy to go wrong before the ANC decides to even think about re-looking at BEE policies. I think we all have a long road ahead.

  • godesha - 2012-12-07 09:51

    A child is just a child for goodness sake. Why punish the child for the colour of skin they were born in? They did not chose this and neither should they pay the price for bad decisions made in the past.

  • freddie.miff - 2012-12-07 09:51

    Even the Nats never stooped this low. The ANC is the most racist arrogant organisation ever.

      denny.cray - 2012-12-07 10:13

      Sad but true.

      freddie.miff - 2012-12-07 10:24

      The Soweto shooting was never done by the Nats, I do not support them, and never have, but do not distort history.

      freddie.miff - 2012-12-07 10:26

      So by your logic the ANC physically shot the Marikana miners?!?

      mastersvoice - 2012-12-07 10:38

      freddie - it is important to see things in context. Your statements seem to suggest you are not capable of doing this, and I hope your perspective is not shared by other South Africans! The government of the day creates policies and laws, which are executed by its supporting structures, such as the police, military and education departments. The judiciary must remain impartial and independent, as they must serve as the government's "watchdog". The police were executing the ANC-led government's policy's when they shot the Marikana miners, and any attempt by Zuma and his cronies to distance themselves from their actions must be seen as improper politics! The NP-led Apartheid government must also be held accountable for the actions of the police and military during their tenure, but remember that the judiciary were not independent and impartial in that era, as the government could effectively pass any law they liked.

      godesha - 2012-12-07 10:43

      @Rupesh. Can't even remember the name of the Soweto Uprising because you probably weren't even born yet, but you always have the most to say on these forums about whites and how we benefitted from Apartheid. Yes. Apartheid happened, yes some (not all) benefitted, there is nothing that can be be done to turn back the clock and make it not happen. Please can we stop trying to fix a wrong with another wrong? For how long do you want the whites to grovel and apologise? For how long should we be punished for something most of our generation had no part in? Why should these children suffer because of something they don't even know the name of. And please if this is your attitude, then rather don't donate to white kids and make a hypocrite of yourself.

      aniken.vader.31 - 2012-12-07 11:05

      Rup please dont listen to godesha whe heshe said not to donate becase it would make you a hipocrit. No matter what if you cam and your heart is willing, dont let them suffer more because of something said on this forum. That would put thos children again in the middle of others arguing about race. I beg you people to start uniting in the name of colourless children that need our wisdom. We are the grown ups. We should act as such. And thank you for the consideration...

      riette.nothling - 2012-12-07 11:21

      Rupesh, if you can justify letting children go hungry because of their skin colour then you are the biggest racist and idiot on this forum! I am sick of your racist comments, get a life!

  • neil.kroese - 2012-12-07 09:51

    This is the farce the power hungry ANC monster has turned this country into..and shame on those companies who only donate because they score BEE brownie points. I would love to see these companies being named and shames with irrefutable proof of their actions.

  • brian.dureuck - 2012-12-07 09:52

    This is why i never ever donate to any charity except the SPCA!

      Donkervlie - 2012-12-07 09:59

      You Prefer to help animals before children!!!! Man you are sick

      evylshnukums - 2012-12-07 10:27

      Not entirely sure what your point is? I am an animal rights advocate and as such support both children and animals (esp groups who work with both like CLAW). Saying that you're not going to help e.g. this orphanage doesn't give you the high ground, it means you're one more person who isn't helping them. As an aside, nice to see how (except for a few idiots) everyone commenting on this realises that poverty knows no colour and that helping/denying help based on race is vile and shameful.

      johan.mostert.967 - 2012-12-07 12:51

      Agree 100% with brian.dureuck. You can also click to feed for free at : http://www.barkingmad.co.za/

  • linda.duits - 2012-12-07 09:52

    How tragic! News 24 please can you tell us what the orphanages name is?

      bernard.nienaber - 2012-12-07 09:56

      jacaranda childrens home, read the article.

      serena.johnston.7 - 2012-12-07 09:56

      Jacaranda Childrens Home. It's in the article.

      Woordelys - 2012-12-07 09:56

      Jakaranda Kinderhuis, East Lynn, Pretoria

      doreendgough - 2012-12-07 09:57

      The name is in the article - Jacaranda Children's Home. I believe it is east of Pretoria near East Lynne

      freddie.miff - 2012-12-07 09:57

      Jacaranda Children's Home, it is in the article.

      philemon.ndlovu.5 - 2012-12-07 10:00

      Jakaranda Kinderhuis

      cheshire.cat.33671748 - 2012-12-07 10:01

      Jacaranda Children’s home - http://www.myprofile.co.za/directory/children/support_groups/jacaranda_children's_home/details/

      burningdogz - 2012-12-07 11:44

      Well Mr Msika, please explain what that statement is supposed to mean?That area plagued by ghosts off apartheid? What? White people? This isn't due to apartheid, this is a governmental act. ANC is to blame for this, period. This is racist act executed by racist parties...all the while people are skeptical of the DA because Zille once use the word refugee? Where are the torrents of anti-racist warriors who so gallantly attacked then? Facts are simple: if you think DA is too racist, you should really hate the ANC. Anyone who after this supports the ANC will now by me be labelled as a racist worthy of all the hate that the apartheid government deserved. If the ANC does to you what the partheid government did.... You know that quote from Mr Mandela? Well, a goverment instituting laws keeping aid away from orphans due to skin color...Sounds lose enough to me.

      clive.kihn - 2012-12-07 12:26

      Msika, the children were placed in that particular home by the courts; the home does not have a whites only policy. Presumably the surrounding area is predominantly white, so it is no surprise that the children in the home are too. Get that gigantic chip off your shoulder, man, before it "hounts" you.

      andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-12-07 12:54

      We must stand together and rather support orphanages like this in stead of beggars at stop streets and parking areas protecting cares that cannot be stolen!

  • earthian.earthian - 2012-12-07 09:52

    This is the reason why I do not support any BEE business or previously disadvantaged campaign. As per this code's mentality, I look after my own! Call it the presently disadvantaged!

  • lebogang.molefo - 2012-12-07 09:52

    This is just ridiculous. So poor children should suffer for this BEE crap

  • christopher.m.lowe - 2012-12-07 09:54

    Isn't this stupid? And sad.

  • Donkervlie - 2012-12-07 09:55

    Is this the genocide that the people have been talking about. The nazis did this as well,

  • bernardhill412 - 2012-12-07 09:55

    This is blatant racism against children, sies, this is absolutely disgusting, and how sick in the head can you be to even think about placing orphanages in a BEE class. All they want is love and food. Now they need to be BEE? And the other 30% that is not white will have to suffer too. They didn’t ask to be there. Show some compassion you mindless selfish pigs.

  • randall.j.coetzee - 2012-12-07 09:56

    This is disgusting. I have absolutely no respect in this black powered government anymore. Had little but now I have none. Keep your european, hollander, white comments to yourself black people. Won't effect me as I'm not white... If any idiot tries to defend these monsters than you prove me and a lot of the other free thinkers of south africa that you are just as selfish as your idiot leaders

  • jbooyse - 2012-12-07 09:56

    Shocking !!!

  • mark.corrigan.3910 - 2012-12-07 09:56

    Big business is accomplices in this current BEE mess we know as South Africa. We have always known that business is about money, not principles. However, I believe we must start supporting those little guys in our communities and say f**k you to big business. Buy your chicken from the Portuguese cafe, screw Nando's. etc.

      mark.corrigan.3910 - 2012-12-07 10:00

      Name and shame, Elzane van der Merwe. We will do the rest!

      mastersvoice - 2012-12-07 10:54

      mark - wouldn't it be great if White South Africans could mobilise themselves? Sadly, history has proven this not to be the case, just look at the recent Woolworths issue - Whites could simply not bring themselves to boycotting them! I believe the ANC-led government is completely aware of the White malaise - and they know they cal always bargain on Whites complaining, but not mobilising. They also know Whites are the minority, so their vote alone is no threat. They believe they will rule till "Jesus returns", and this will be their downfall! More Black South Africans are becoming disillusioned with them, so there is hope yet...

      mark.corrigan.3910 - 2012-12-07 11:23

      MastersVoice, we as whites have been having a lekker laid back lifestyle. We are soft. I am not saying we must protest and burn down like our African brethren, but our slapgat way of existing will only end the worse it gets. Those that can will emigrate. Those that stay will become more like our brethren. One way or another, there will be blood, but "jesus" will return (maybe in our children's lifestyle). PS blacks racists, I don't mean the return of apartheid (boo! scary), but the return of good governance and unity in this country!

      mark.corrigan.3910 - 2012-12-07 11:24

      *lifetime* excuse me

  • ben.louw.5 - 2012-12-07 09:58

    Screw the government. She should look into Pledge websites. There's a few of em on the net. Then spread the word over a social network like Facebook. I'm sure they'll get quite a boost. Not sure about long term but definitely an initial response... better than nothing.

  • matt.cumming.77 - 2012-12-07 09:58

    Name and shame the companies!

  • Duncan Colter - 2012-12-07 09:59

    It looks like Apartheid is returning. And as before the Children are the first to suffer

  • johan.viljoen.925 - 2012-12-07 10:01

    What's going on in this land of ours? But we can't expect anything else of this CIRCUS that is managing SA.

  • dragonfire47 - 2012-12-07 10:01

    disgusting, so because of there sick racist policies they are denying a child a small gift or meal for christmas, sick sick sick, name these 'companies' and shame them

  • khuphukile.madida - 2012-12-07 10:01

    Oh South Africa, and so we taught our children racism.

  • amanda.matthews.14811 - 2012-12-07 10:01

    Name and shame these Companies. What has BEE to do with an orphanage in need! Disgusting but not surprising as the ANC Regime has terrorised all businesses to the point that they are afraid of losing their brownie points if they donate to a white orphanage.

      denny.cray - 2012-12-07 10:28

      Shame a company for *giving* money to a charity because it is the one the government is encouraging? The issue here is clearly our government's policies. Focus on the real issue.

      msika.gama.5 - 2012-12-07 11:29

      Unfortunately these companies have no other choice but to comply with the govt's BEE policies, as there are consequences for non compliance. There's nothing wrong with BEE, the only problem is that it only benefits a few connected blacks because of corruption in goverment.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-12-07 12:35

      There's nothing wrong with BEE? Bwwwwaaaa hahahahahahahaahahahah ha ahahahahaha ahahahaha hahahaha haha ahahahah ahahahahah ahahah a HA-HA And here I was thinking you had no sense of humour.

  • denise.wilshire - 2012-12-07 10:02

    So where is our fine consitution now. If this isn't reverse apartheid then I would love to know what is? Oops! Sorry there are no poverty stricken whites or old age pensioners! Try getting a state pension if you own a home. This government puts policies in place which fuels racial tension. They really don't care about nation building.

  • sean.noble1 - 2012-12-07 10:02

    This has to be against the constitution contact solidarity to take it to court.

      joe.soap.39545464 - 2012-12-07 11:11

      Hope you are a member Sean !!! I only joined so they can have the funds to help.... Have a great day !

  • hannes.helberg - 2012-12-07 10:04

    I would love to know the names of the corporates that canceled their support in so much haste, as it is mentioned that the those suggested BEE codes have been withdrawn, and they were never advocated as being the new rule. Clearly those corporates that act so quickly upon "suggested BEE codes" to favor their own agenda do not need our support. What a sad day when BEE is starting to hurt children directly ... and icon Mandela love kids so much. The icon is being let down i say...

  • thelma.pottek - 2012-12-07 10:05

    My heart broken! None of those children were asked to be born in this racist country. They are between 18 months and 18 years, which mean none of them were even here during apartheid! Why on earth should they be punished for something they had no control over? This is a shock. The highest grade of racism you will ever see! How can one stay positive in this country if this is happening? I need to ask this, but is this really what Mandella wanted?

  • craig.a.salter - 2012-12-07 10:07

    Yet again we are facing racial discrimination but wait, our law says that blacks can not be racist. Here is a message for the corrupt stupid and incompitant goverment FRACK YOU

  • phil.steel.12 - 2012-12-07 10:07

    This is a bloody disgrace and undeniably racist in our so called "Rainbow Nation" We certainly are taking this BEE thing way to far when it prejudices our children!

  • tian.stemmet - 2012-12-07 10:08

    If you are truly troubled by this, act on it! Below details for Jakaranda Childrens Home: Physical Address : EAST LYNNE, PRETORIA NORTH, PRETORIA AREA, GAUTENG, ZA Postal Address : PRIVATE BAG X11, LYNN EAST, 0039 Web Address : http://www.jacarandachildren.co.za Tel No : (012) 800-4700 Contact Person : CHNAY (082) 773-2818

      flippn.cool - 2012-12-07 10:36

      Agree! I will donate R100 :-) Their website seems to be broken though...

      flippn.cool - 2012-12-07 10:37

      Jacaranda Childrens Home, ABSA cheque acc, acc no: 1430140724, Branch: derdepoort, branch code 33 52 45. Their tel: 012 800 4700 If everyone here donates R100 or even R50 it will help - who's with me?

      mark.higgens.9 - 2012-12-07 10:52

      I have donated my R100.00!!!!

      flippn.cool - 2012-12-07 11:00

      That's the spirit Mark!! :-)

      flippn.cool - 2012-12-07 11:44

      Msika it's not about racism, it's about vulnerable, innocent kids who did not get funding for next year. This year we have donated R180 000 to various charities, 90% of them black or colored only, and all very desperately in need of help - just like Jacaranda home. Also, if you look at some of their photo's, there are other races there as well. Come on man, show some love.

  • cj.venter - 2012-12-07 10:09

    fine, screw the government. people moan about policies, but how much do we all donate to these poor kids? i say let's support them before donating to any other cause. here's the details: http://help-a-bub.org/how-you-can-help/

  • godesha - 2012-12-07 10:10

    We should find out who the companies are that are refusing to help these homes and stop supporting them.

      denise.wilshire - 2012-12-07 11:57

      There is no secrecy act in place currently. How do we proceed with our quest for information on this topic? I am on board.

  • jairaj.sureschandra - 2012-12-07 10:10

    The BEE policy, if applicable, should not apply to children in the circumstances in which orphans find themselves. Large companies, should use their discretion in granting donations to any orphanage and not merely hide behind the BEE policy as an excuse to refuse a donation. If the BEE policy was a criteria in awarding donations, chances are that orphanages in predominantly white areas would not get any donations at all from large companies. Then how will our children survive. Please have a heart for the children and tell the authors of the Policy where they can put it .......

      Heather Stip - 2012-12-07 10:21

      Well said! why is it always the children that have to suffer?

      jerome.rothman - 2012-12-07 10:30

      All South Africans born after 1994 should be exmpt from BEE policy.

  • charles.gregory.7906 - 2012-12-07 10:11

    Doen n opvolg oor di storie en laat dt bekend word wie is di matskapye en wa is vf en afri forum? Kom uit julle blokke manne en wys hul vir ons uit

  • norman.buchalter - 2012-12-07 10:11

    This is pure unadulterated racism. A hangover from the apartheid regime they say they abhor. I can understand and suggest that donations made to charities that are not 100% black perhaps not be given a 100% deduction for the donation(maybe the govt to do a calculation and see what proportion is white, black and rainbow) and give a % deduction based on that? This way the racist application of awarding BEE points will be avoided, political furore will be avoided, companies will still be able to do their charitable deeds without much fear or favour, and the country will not be further polarised and our charities most importantly, will not suffer from a stupid govt policy that though temporarily halted, has caused a chaotic and untenable situation to pertain- it's just plain stupid. Thought up by someone without maths literacy perhaps? Concentrate on education and eradicate govt ignorance and whimsy!

  • barry.savage.33 - 2012-12-07 10:11

    Who are these companies???? Name them!! This is the last straw!!! From now on I will only be supporting initiatives that support white and coulored people in distress. Every day the ANC government is slamming white people. The same people trying to help people of all races in distress. I WAS one of them. Zuma builds a private home of over R250 mil. Yet the people voting for him are struggling further! He and his corrupt friends are stealing our tax money. I WILL NOT be helping the people keeping him in power from my 'after tax money' any further. If this is how this government is treating struggling people because they are white, I suggest that the white people start reconsidering where their loyalty should lie.

  • Sibusiso - 2012-12-07 10:13

    They must upgrade their fundraising skills.Nothing stops any S.African from donating to whatever organisation.

      mark.corrigan.3910 - 2012-12-07 10:46

      You must upgrade your brain skills. Start by getting one.

  • cheshire.cat.33671748 - 2012-12-07 10:13

    PLATINUM WEEKLY: Sorry, no donations to whites allowed! see below link. http://www.platinumweekly.co.za/2012%2011%2002%20P8%202%20November%202012%20Rustenburg%20Newspaper.pdf

  • izak.g.beukes - 2012-12-07 10:14

    Serves them right for choosing to be white and choosing to be orphans!!! Oh, wait... they weren't afforded that choice, were they? :-(

  • Alex - 2012-12-07 10:14

    This is race based social engineer, the regime is just as misguided as the previous one. All people should be equal regardless of race. Was that not what the "struggle " was about? Looks like we need a new struggle. Please tell us who these companies are...let cut their funds!

  • bleh.bleh.9809 - 2012-12-07 10:15

    This now just rips right through my soul!

  • richter.taljaard - 2012-12-07 10:15

    Their Banking details for donations ABSA:14 30 14 07 4 Branch code: 632005 I'm Putting in R500, who is with me?

      lovenergy - 2012-12-07 10:18

      I phoned them, their needs to be a 2 before the last 4 on the acc no

      rupesh.hari.7 - 2012-12-07 11:07

      I can't get through to them to confirm their account. Will donate after i get through, but i am with u.

  • lovenergy - 2012-12-07 10:15

    This is disgusting! If the Government won't help I will! No child should go hungry over christmas. Jacaranda Childrens Home, ABSA cheque acc, acc no: 1430140724, Branch: derdepoort, branch code 33 52 45. Their tel: 012 800 4700. The children are innocent!

      fanie.brink.5 - 2012-12-07 10:26

      Please talk to them to blacklist the companies and to publish the list and to ciculate it on the social media!!!

      flippn.cool - 2012-12-07 10:27

      If everyone who commented here donates R100 it will go a long way to help.

      hnievd - 2012-12-07 10:44

      My R100 is in.

      flippn.cool - 2012-12-07 10:48

      Awesome hnievd, mine too!

      mark.corrigan.3910 - 2012-12-07 11:26

      Mine too!

      flippn.cool - 2012-12-07 11:32

      Well done Mark! This is so awesome, at least the kids will feel like the public really does care, I hope loads of people commenting here donate too!

      gouws.estelle - 2012-12-07 11:37

      I just donated and made the ref Too White

      samantha.5243 - 2012-12-07 12:39

      donated!

  • avril.pheifferviljoen - 2012-12-07 10:15

    Racism. Blatant racism. Children are innocent!

  • niki.wessels - 2012-12-07 10:17

    Too full of privileged kids, I presume? Perhaps an intake of our president's illegitimate offspring would right the balance...

  • Alex - 2012-12-07 10:17

    Please post your fundraising details. There are a lot of people on this forum that would like to help you.

      gouws.estelle - 2012-12-07 11:37

      Jacaranda Childrens Home, ABSA cheque acc, acc no: 1430140724, Branch: derdepoort, branch code 33 52 45. Their tel: 012 800 4700.

  • cheshire.cat.33671748 - 2012-12-07 10:17

    PLATINUM WEEKLY: Sorry, no donations to whites allowed! see below link. http://www.platinumweekly.co.za/2012%2011%2002%20P8%202%20November%202012%20Rustenburg%20Newspaper.pdf

      cheshire.cat.33671748 - 2012-12-07 10:22

      This makes me so ashamed of South Africa. What must the world think of us???

      mark.corrigan.3910 - 2012-12-07 11:54

      The "world" doesn't care. We are just an investment option.