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Outa: Govt arrogance on e-tolls astounding

2012-10-26 22:24

Pretoria - The government's announcement of e-tolling rates on Friday was arrogant, with consultations amounting to rubber-stamping, the Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) said.

"The government's arrogance over the e-tolling debacle continues to astound," Outa spokesperson Rob Handfield-Jones said in a statement.

The electronic tolling of Gauteng's freeways would cost motorists with e-tags 30c/km, down from the 40c/km decided on last year, SA National Roads Agency toll and traffic manager Alex van Niekerk told reporters in Pretoria.

Transport department director general George Mahlalela said all parties had been consulted, except for the Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) and Outa.

Handfield-Jones criticised Mahlalela for being disingenuous and noted that Outa and Cosatu had been the most vocal critics of e-tolling.

"In other words, the government has consulted only those who support its case. There is a word for such behaviour: rubber-stamping," Handfield-Jones said.

Outa chairperson Wayne Duvenage criticised the government for announcing that e-tolling would go ahead, with tariffs to be reviewed at the end of the month.

"In addition, despite the perception that government would like to create, today's gazetted tariffs are no different to those published, and subsequently withdrawn, earlier this year," Duvenhage said.

Business Unity SA (Busa) welcomed the 30-day consultative process that would follow the gazetting.

"It is important to use the time available to ensure that confidence is built in the final decisions before they are implemented."

Busa noted there would be further opportunities to consider the decision-making process during the high court review scheduled to start on 26 November.

The e-tolling project's terms and conditions were gazetted on Friday.

"This marks the beginning of a 30-day period for public comment. Government will, at the end of the 30 days, having considered the views of the public, publish final tariffs," Transport Minister Ben Martins said.

After the public consultation, 14 days would be set aside for Martins to "apply his mind", and another 14 days for the gazetting of the final tariffs. This would mean e-tolls could come into effect four days before Christmas.

However, Van Niekerk would not give a specific date.

Martins said the tariffs announced on Friday were not final, because of the consultation process.

"And it's also not correct to state that the fees that have been articulated are carved in stone."

Window dressing

Van Niekerk said the current tariffs were calculated taking the Treasury's contribution into consideration. The cost of e-tolling collection was included in the tariffs.

"We've previously indicted that the cost of collection, if you calculate it over the life cycle of the project, taking into consideration all costs associated with the project, it is about 17% of compliant toll transactions," Van Niekerk said.

The e-tag tariff for motorcycles had been dropped from 24c/km to 18c/km, for medium heavy vehicles (Class B) from R1/km to 75c/km, and heavy vehicles (Class C) from R2/km to R1.50/km.

Martins said the government had proposed that toll fees for e-tag users be capped at R550 a month for light vehicles.

According to Sanral's calculations, only 0.2% of e-tag users would pay this amount.

Van Niekerk said those exempted from paying e-toll fees included valid public transport vehicles and emergency vehicles. The process would also allow for applications by motorists for exemptions, such as quadriplegics who needed someone to drive them around.

The Democratic Alliance said it was disappointed that the system was going ahead.

"The gazetted amounts are not lower than those announced earlier this year, and the monthly caps can easily be raised later once the system is implemented," DA MP Neil Campbell said in a statement.

The Freedom Front Plus said it would lay a complaint against Sanral with the Consumer Commission about the higher tariffs which road users without e-tags would have to pay.

"This difference in tariff creates unfair discrimination and illegally forces road users to register for the e-tags service. This type of action is prohibited by the Consumer Protection Act," FF Plus MP Anton Alberts said.

The Justice Project SA said the consultations that took place before the gazetting were "window dressing".

"There is nothing to suggest that the latest round [of consultation] will be any different," national chairperson Howard Dembovsky said.

Comments
  • jo.vankatwijk - 2012-10-26 22:37

    The ANC and SANRAL arrogance knows no bounds. I'm not even surprised at the decision.

      juicecard.tshaka - 2012-10-26 22:47

      Fight arrogance with arrogance!no paying from the public

      heathway.master - 2012-10-26 23:15

      The Government struck at the population when they are on their knees, trying to survive. Electricity has increased close to 300%. Rates and taxes close to 300%, price of petrol doubled. The present debt levels in the population are horrific. This is the time Government sees fit to hit the motorist with an extra R800 - R1200 toll tax. However they try and beat the public into submission by their greedy needs, economically e-tolling just has to fail. When you are faced with educating, clothing, feeding and housing your children, or passing this money on to Sanral, the final decision is a no brainer. When you have to finance and service your car to get to your life sustaining work, or for go all this and pay Sanral, the answer is a no brainer. I predict the Governments total arrogance and bullying the cash strapped citizen, can only result in complete humiliation and defeat. If not a single private motorist buys the e-tag, the system logistically cannot recover unpaid fees. Simple as that.

      heathway.master - 2012-10-26 23:17

      I heard on a Financial Radio Programme last night, the unbelievable recent public reaction to e-tolling was basically a determined and non-negotiable "TAX REVOLT" by the citizens of South Africa. They have simply reached the end of the Government thinking they can carry on "FLEECING THE GOLDEN GOOSE", while the Government, Municipalities, Parastatals, exhibit the most unbelievably wasteful misuse/corruption/tenderneurship/cadre deployment/totally inefficient and costly maladministration of the tax payers "BLOOD MONEY". How many needless "BILLIONS" are spent on supporting the civil servants luxurious and extravagant lifestyles. It was commented that the incredibly generous salaries and perks offered to all civil servants was ballooning out of control. Government officials earn 45% higher salaries than equivalent posts in the private sector, yet are 55% less productive. It was interesting when they said that Zuma had cooked his goose with the complete misuse of tax on the building of his "NKANDLA SUN CITY" This has angered tax payers more than the Government will ever appreciate. As a ploy to those who struggle to reason, toll fees will obviously be substantially reduced initially to catch all in the spiders net. Once caught rates will increase as per Eskom and Municipalities. The solution "NO E-TAGS-COMPLETELY IGNOR PAYMENT LETTERS & THREATS" As with the miners, mass boycott cannot be controlled.

      guy.rice - 2012-10-27 05:58

      The arrogance of hiding behind "confidential" contracts which the public is not allowed to see. Outa has seen the documentation - see their reply on the website. Protest this at http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Freedom_of_access_to_information/

      UNITY - 2012-10-27 06:29

      Just great when everyone comes back from holiday, they will all be tolled through GP!!!

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-27 06:56

      Nope its Dec 16.

      Kawasaki1985 - 2012-10-27 09:44

      Famous words of Margaret Thatcher “No, No, No. This Lady Is Not For Changing”

      DangerousDG - 2012-10-27 10:38

      If you tweet register your anger: @PresidencyZA @SApresident

      mart.botha - 2012-10-27 18:19

      Is it true that a company that refused to pay bribes to be awarded this tender, is making available a jamming device that will render the scanners for the e-tolling equipment inoperable ? Broken scanners = broken system = we're freeeeeeeeeeee!

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-10-28 15:24

      They have more chance of pushing butter up a porcupine's ar$e with a red-hot needle than they do of getting me to buy an e-tag.

      saintbruce.bruce - 2012-11-15 08:20

      Thanks Mike - I got a graphic of that in my minds eye - great laugh! Needed that. heathwaymaster and I agree - don't buy eTags. This will scare the heebies out of SANRAL and ETC as they are dead set on this collection method. The other way is to buy an eTag, place it in an aluminium box or leave it at home and claim their system is faulty and refuse to pay. It uses RFID technology supplied from overseas so jamming is a possibility. I still say - boycott the eTolls wholesale. No revenue = no business.

  • melusi.myaluza - 2012-10-26 22:38

    They will never see a cent of my hard earned cash,ever ever ever ever!!!!!

      NickvanGraan - 2012-10-26 23:55

      I am sure big deals and promises have been made behind the scenes involving a lot of our money, that is why they are crashing ahead with this regardless of the cost and regardless of what we say.

      sally.lewitt - 2012-10-27 03:01

      They won't 'SEE' it, they just 'TAKE' it.. Day Light Robbery AGAIN.. Fkkrs!

      Alien42063 - 2012-10-27 07:28

      @Jamba You cannot be more correct. Even though we might never know or meet each other, we will make a united front against the e-tolls and this govt corruption!! To quote Anonymous: "We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us."

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-10-27 20:59

      . This is all very well, but where were you, when the plans were announced for these major road improvements?? This was done shortly after the announcement that SA was the 'winner' and could host the 2010 SWC. This event must surely go in history as the biggest hoax ever played on Africa. At that time , there were a few BRAVE South Africans who opposed holding this event, for the simple reason we could not afford it. They were shouted down as unpatriotic and even being 'traitors' But, they wre RIGHT !!! We could not afford all these multi billion stadiums scattered around the country! We could not afford King Chaka airport and all these marvelous upgrading of our other airports!! and we could not afford all these great improvements of our roads and highways!!! As these few BRAVE ones said at the time; For many many years we will be paying for this. It is a bit late now, for crying !!!!!!

      art5SA - 2012-10-28 10:48

      When I drive on the Freways of Johannesburg, I WILL have a set of FALSE NUMBER PLATES stuck onto my vehicle.... Would LOVE to know how they going to find me.....

  • Patrick Busschau - 2012-10-26 22:53

    i can't believe that anyone is surprised by this. it was always going to happen. The BIGGEST problem SANRAL and government have is that their PR has been in the toilet and they have no idea how to engage with their constituent.

      jay.kganyago.5 - 2012-10-27 18:14

      The biggest problem SANRAL have is that they are committing highway robbery on innocent victims. No PR can fix that

  • juicecard.tshaka - 2012-10-26 22:56

    If the gvt declares war on its citizens,we`re obliged to retaliate.If we are all united against this monster they won`t succeed

      parys.fotograaf - 2012-10-27 08:07

      The ANC elite has never planned a better life for anyone barring themselves. The masses and socalled freedom fighters have been duped since inception of the ANC and similar organizations. This is just another way they do exactly that, remove wealth from the citizen.

      art5SA - 2012-10-28 10:46

      ALL the ANC cadre's based in Lootfrrely House, WILL NOT pay toll fee's.... They will simply be added onto a DATA SYSTEM to ensure NO FEES GET CHARGED TO THE RELEVANT NUMBER PLATES!

  • mike.jankelowitz - 2012-10-26 22:58

    What will ultimately result will be fewer people wanting to live in Gauteng, empty factories, lessdemand on housing, prices will drop and the wonderful city of Johannesburg will become desolate. The government will get less taxes, less income, increase taxation and more emigration. Cry the beloved country. Cry.

  • phillip.marchant.52 - 2012-10-26 22:58

    Why so surprised, OUTA? You signed a so called 'secrecy' agreement with Government, which was all they needed to roll out the champagne. You just buried the hopes of the many who have fought against this creative new arm of ANC oppression on the nation, and worse than that, you hedged your bets on trusting them at their word. It's full steam ahead now, and too late for 'arrogance' and 'rubber stamping' accusations, I'm afraid. What was it to climb into bed with the enemy without consulatation yourselves, if not the epitome of blind arrogance and child-like naivity?

      judith.taylor.56 - 2012-10-27 17:11

      They needed the information to defend us. Wait until the court case, then everything is covered by the law

      brian.exmachina - 2012-10-27 20:28

      @phillip: Get a grip. You're either misunderstanding or misrepresenting the situation on purpose. What happened was that SANRAL refused OUTA access to their confidential contracts. OUTA needed the documents to prepare for the court case on the 26th of November, so they threatened legal action to obtain copies. The legal action would have delayed the court review, so they negotiated with SANRAL to obtain the documents without forcing them through legal means. This entails keeping the details of the contract confidential until the court case on the 26th of November. It's not a secrecy agreement, it just states that they won't leak details to the media before the court case. And it definitely isn't some strange sinister occurrence, but rather the norm for legal precedings.

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-10-28 15:27

      Only crooked deals need to be kept secret

      phillip.marchant.52 - 2012-10-28 16:55

      @Brian, I bow to your superior assessment of the facts, therefore. Still I wonder why Sanral would insist on a secrecy agreement, if only the facts are to be laid bare in court but a few weeks later; I can't see the point, but again, I bow and trust you are right.

      art5SA - 2012-10-28 18:03

      It is a KEPT SECRET because MOST, if not ALL the Contracts involved ANC CADRE'S AND THEIR IMMEDIATE FAMILIES.... WATCH THIS SPACE!!!!

  • makarapakaplan - 2012-10-26 23:02

    Don't buy e toll don't buy!! We will then file for section 77 and we will show government we mean business.

  • pieter.calitz - 2012-10-26 23:08

    Dear Government...did you know that the cost of SARS to collect money is 1.1% of the tax collected. You are saying the toll collection is going to cost 17% of the total. Now, My question is...who gets the 15.9% which you are charging more than SARS. We are talking about billions of rands more than it would cost SARS. Did you also tell mr. Gordhan this as he said it was the best way to get the money. So, my question is...WHO IS STEALING DA MANIE! We are paying about 15 times more by using toll gates.

      pieter.calitz - 2012-10-26 23:17

      Furthermore Dear Government. If we cannot trust you with making a monetary decision like looking after our interests. You did, after all, for some unknown reason, choose an option that is 15X MORE EXPENSIVE than SARS, can we then trust you with the original costs of the project? Was the R 20 billion rand used to build the roads or were R 10 billion used and the rest disappeared into back pockets? How much is going into back pockets? Is it 5, 10, 20 billion rand?

      sally.lewitt - 2012-10-27 02:55

      These idiots USED government pension money... So my calculated guess is the 'Paw-Paw' is going to hit the fan with one hellova speed! Ouch!

  • profesas1 - 2012-10-26 23:15

    I can't wait to protest, blocking both sides of N1 preferably in vodaworld, midrand

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-27 07:03

      Minimum speed is allowable at 40 kmh

  • byron.pienaar - 2012-10-26 23:22

    What a relief I left SA and decided to invest in Australia.

      yar.wellnofine - 2012-10-27 07:02

      @Byron I understand what you feel, however, being smug won't solve the problem. You must have friends and family here. Lend your voice to the protest.

      parys.fotograaf - 2012-10-27 08:09

      Bro, you have no idea apparently how the Aussie regime is crewing their people as well. Wake up, democracy is not the friend of the human, but of the creatures of state.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-10-27 11:01

      Byron, how nice, but give a thought to the people here. No need to dance on South Africa's grave.

      marc.hugo.75 - 2012-10-27 11:08

      Aussie is fine, 1st world in almost every way but one of the worst nanny states (like Canada) - too much for me but fine for many. It's just all those Aussies man!!

      phillys.winterbottom - 2012-10-28 13:08

      GOD YOU MUST BE BORED TO DEATH!!!

  • The4thHorsemen - 2012-10-26 23:26

    Just wondering how much they will charge for donkey cars, because we are paying through our buts for everything else.

      judith.taylor.56 - 2012-10-27 17:13

      What a good idea, perhaps I ride a horse on the motorways instead of driving in a car or even drive a horse and cart so I can carry passengers!

  • lyellvanderwalt - 2012-10-26 23:56

    Not paying another cent. Come and get me. And all the rest of us.

  • kyle.white.39750 - 2012-10-27 00:30

    I wont get an e tag. PERIOD.

  • tebogo.phetabosigo - 2012-10-27 00:41

    We will be foolish to agree to the new tarrif,they lure us to their web.NO E-TOLLS FREEDOM FIGHTERS\.The struggle continues!

  • arthur.grace - 2012-10-27 01:02

    Off to Ireland.... Cheers clowns

      sally.lewitt - 2012-10-27 02:21

      Do send me a leprechaun.. Would be most useful to scare the GeeBees out of some high ranking official! Have a safe journey Arthur and. BIG KISS on the Blarney Stone for good measure!

      syphor.zit - 2012-10-27 07:28

      And never come back when we do not need to pay e-tolling

      archangel.zerachiel - 2012-10-27 08:25

      CLOWNS?? Just where over here are you going to be settling then? Let me know please. CLOWNS indeed....

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-10-27 11:04

      Arthur.grace. Give my regards to the wee people, the leprechauns. Don't forget your raincoat and enjoy your life in that green heaven.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-10-27 11:05

      Arthur, I forgot, you call us CLOWNS why?.

      dimitripappas - 2012-10-27 12:27

      Enjoy it, Arthur! Ignore all the jealous irrationality here - Anywhere is better than here right now, and every sane mind knows it

  • lacrimose.wolf - 2012-10-27 01:37

    Hell no! Rolling mass-(in)action here we come. Apart from anything else, the human rights issues that e-tagging have not been addressed. The guarantees that 90% of the revenue gets invested back into roads in the jurisdiction,. Also that the administration costs not only come in under 12% but also DO NOT LEAVE THE COUNTRY. There is no [insertrudewordhere] that any commuter is going to accept another cent being paid to deranged accountants hired by politricksters because of promises made to foreign nationals. NOT ONE CENT must leave our country.

  • robert.doyle.712 - 2012-10-27 02:06

    You will all complain yet do eff all..............TYPICAL SOUF EFFRIKEN SCARED OF AUTHORITY......INGRAINED IN THE EARLY YEARS NE

      sally.lewitt - 2012-10-27 02:16

      Go suck a hind tit troll..

      enlightened.bowman - 2012-10-27 07:15

      200 % right

      parys.fotograaf - 2012-10-27 08:10

      Wanna bet??

  • nino.diana.12 - 2012-10-27 03:58

    More money for their back pockets ..... Well its got to end up somewhere, don't you think?

  • steven.warren.5661 - 2012-10-27 04:26

    This has now became personal. i am now declaring war against the anc. im gonna make my voice heard by voting DA. the anc clearly doesnt care abt our financial well being. Let ppl in the rural areas vote anc i for one wont not anymore. petrol, food, electricity price hikes now where do i still get money for etolling. Yet they steal and build homes worth hundred millions in nkandla.

      hendrik.verwoerd.94 - 2012-10-27 06:05

      You already voted DA before and now look for votes. This country needs a new party with all non racist people supporting it and works towards a better South Africa.

      ronald.stilianou - 2012-10-27 21:26

      Hendrik Verwoerd- yes, like the DA.

  • motleleng - 2012-10-27 05:37

    This is BULLSH#T...

  • Nhlanhla Zondi - 2012-10-27 05:53

    I for one wont pay for e-toll and i'll never register for e-tag

  • Chris - 2012-10-27 06:28

    Africa wins again replicating the dark years of the newly independant states .

  • Vince.York - 2012-10-27 06:50

    The profligate inordinately massive BEE commission percentages built into these eTolling contracts MUST BE PAID FOR BY YOU & You and you too. Just like the BEE contracts that Chncellor House and Hitachi and Medupi have enriched people at huge percentages. No different to those under investigation in the Malema and cohorts hugely inflated crooked deals. These percentages have 'created' money where there was no money and YOU have to bear the burden of now making the money that they created with a flourished BEE signature.

  • mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-27 06:50

    Just dont give any personal details to Sanral.Once they get them youre screwed.

  • mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-27 06:55

    The Last two articles Got 'Comments Closed' At less than 200 how many will the government allow for this article??

  • mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-27 07:02

    Dont Buy E Tags

  • stephan.kuhn.357 - 2012-10-27 07:03

    Let's start a campaign within these comments today to get the DA in in Gauteng in the next elections. Although not a solution to the tolling rip-off, this will get the State/Party's attention. Please send a message on these lines to all your email and facebook contacts, with the request that they send on to their contacts and discuss the DA option as a protest against the tolls with the people they see daily. Why is the Govt not saving R30 billion in collection costs in 20 years by either charging a Gauteng fuel levy or a national fuel levy??? Who is scoring here?? Who has their fingers in the pie?? It is the norm in SA that a specific group benefits from the general fiscus, eg free judges, low-cost schooling, sick people, road users, politicians, so the "user pays" argument is arbitrary.

      yar.wellnofine - 2012-10-27 07:14

      @Stephan I have no doubt that the collection bill will be split amonst a collection of cadres and their families. Just follow the money.

  • enlightened.bowman - 2012-10-27 07:07

    Two things (2) (1)I said in the past; the gollies will pass this through parlament even if they have to highjack the entire country or change the constitution to do so and, you WILL pay. your movements can easily be tracked and your dues added to your car license, income tax return or your employer foreced to deduct it from you salary. (2) is it my imagination of is News 24 very quick to shut down comments on articles pertaining to unpopular issues such as this one or where as in most cases, the bunnies have failed dismally in the governing of SA? I just get the impression they are making the first quiet moves towards press censorchip and limite freedom of speech

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-27 07:36

      Highest number of comments on e-tolls was 177 before they buckled and shut it down .

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-27 15:48

      And no not your imagination

  • louis.nolte.3 - 2012-10-27 07:07

    If there is 248 million for Zumaville, why do we need e-tolls? At least the Apartheid government helped someone other than themselves, the government of today just takes care of their own pockets. I've always been a proud patriot of our country, unfortunately now looking for alternatives.

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-10-27 07:13

    Not only is our government arrogant, the have once again shown that they do not care one bit for the people who put them in power. By their own admission they know many people are living from hand to mouth due to high inflation, they will be adding even more costs which will be passed on to the consumer. The question must be asked what has happened to the billions of Rand collected over the years as tax on fuel for Roads maintenance and infrastructure? No doubt most has gone into the state coffers for the government officials to live in luxury.

  • khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-27 07:14

    Cosatu is as silent as any sell out can be, but we can do it without cosatu, just as the miners did, lets form a structure which will organise a mother of all illegal protests, i am telling you, after a few of us have been shot and killed, vavi will come out of his hole, the world will blast the anc and the e tolling will be scrapped and zuma will be red faced, again. Lets do it on our own, we are on our own no one will save us from these suckers, let the people save themselves and stop being sheep. If we allow this govt to go on with this e toll by june next year light motor vehicles will be paying R125-97/km and there will be nothing we can do then, it will be just like they are doing with petrol, but that is another issue that will need our full attention at a later stage, lets fight back.

      jb.burger.5 - 2012-10-27 07:49

      If we allow this govt to go on with this e toll by june next year light motor vehicles will be paying R125-97/km and there will be nothing we can do then, ...... As long as you continue voting for them, yes. Then there is nothing you can do.... This is the essence of democracy, YOU CAN DO SOMETHING when you are being abandoned by government, YOU VOTE FOR THE OTHER PARTY.

      lionel.dobell - 2012-10-27 07:58

      An African Spring is on the horizon.

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-27 08:07

      Burger, you missed the point.

      jb.burger.5 - 2012-10-27 09:15

      NDLOVU "mother of all illegal protests, i am telling you, after a few of us have been shot and killed, vavi will come out of his hole, the world will blast the anc and the" Read the news TODAY for Central Africa. This is not working and the rest of the world does not care. All that happens, is the world turns its back on Africa and your (and my) sister, mother and daughters will be raped. We will all suffer. Yes, we boycott, but killing is not the answer, the Bosnians are still learning that lesson a thousand years after the first hostilities took place. There is the African way (and look where it brought Africa 60 years later) and then there is the civilised way, look at Europe, US and Canada to name a few..

  • Peter Zylstra - 2012-10-27 07:21

    This is a system implemented by money hungry brainless imbeciles and the only way to stop it is doing it the African way.... stand together and arrange blockades on the toll roads.

  • nicola.killops - 2012-10-27 07:23

    Please tell me how the public consultation process works. They keep saying we have 30 days but don't tell us how to go about it.

      yar.wellnofine - 2012-10-27 07:39

      Hi Nic Yesterday I was in Boulders Centre in Midrand and an e-Tolling sales booth was already being set-up. These scum have no intention of taking any notice of public opinion.

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-10-27 07:55

      @nicola.killops:)here is how 30 days public consultation:\window dressing for an excuse that the public was given enough time to comment. The decisions are already taken.\ Just rewind a little. The OUTA takes the government to North Gauteng High Court, there is a lot of money involved in legal fees because only the best legal minds are involved. The government takes the matter to the Constitutional Court on appeal, the same as above. Then do you think any comment from the public would matter after going through such trouble? Then the pigs will grow wings and fly.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-27 10:19

      I wont shop at Boulders then and I will Chirp all the shopowners about it.

  • freddy.vanwijk - 2012-10-27 07:29

    This will be called legalized blackmail and/or extortion. The "golden goose taxpayer" is already dead. Government has already abused taxpayers money on a horrific scale and wants more. More and more people are going to work from home and at the same time cancel insurance policies on a grand scale irrespective of what they are for the mere sake of toll fees and other cost increases. Strikes will become more intense and violent in the future. All the basic ingrediants and more to come for a documentry "Apocolypse Now: Economic Extortion, Blackmail & Self-Destruction.

  • celeste.delange1 - 2012-10-27 07:37

    Civil disobedience!!If the labour unions can get away with strikes, violence, murder etc. so can we!! I for one have opted to work at home, simply because my salary would not have covered the added expense the tolls bring. My salary does not increase, yet medical aid, petrol, food, school fees etc continues to rise!! I refuse to pay!!

      bernard.nienaber - 2012-10-27 10:21

      White people are to afraid to strike my dear...

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-10-27 11:16

      Bernard,nienaber. How do you know?.

  • Eterni80 - 2012-10-27 07:39

    ignorANCe and arrogANCe go hand in hand.

  • celeste.delange1 - 2012-10-27 07:41

    And here is a good idea! Let's buy/rent the number plates of taxi's!!

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-27 10:21

      Please Celeste do what all good south africans do.Steal them.

  • grant.hide - 2012-10-27 07:49

    This tolls thing is such an upgraded version of a person standing at the robots. Look Mr Government, a rich guy in a suit standing at the robots stuffing his mouth with KFC burgers and downing Johnny walker bottle's is not going to get much from motorists. Get real, Help your people instead of yourselves.

  • willem.d.jager - 2012-10-27 07:59

    I'm all for paying taxes to capable governments in exchange for national prosperity, but I'm definitely NOT in favour of lining the pockets certain of members of the African National Corruption.

  • parys.fotograaf - 2012-10-27 08:04

    Write these pumpkins a letter clearly reserving your right under common law as far as travel and use of a private conveyance is concerned. Also make it clear that you do not have a contract with them, nor have any wish to contract.

  • Pete7930 - 2012-10-27 08:12

    Remember when plastic bags were given a price tag? We all said we would never pay! ..................

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-10-28 15:38

      I never have paid for a plastic bag at a supermarket and I never will.

  • kasper.mbayi2 - 2012-10-27 08:13

    Government will only consulted those who support e-tolls not public the one's who will pay e-tolls. If government want to be fair to SA citizen's, the day of consutation must be a holiday to allow all South African's to be available

  • Karel du Toit - 2012-10-27 08:14

    where exactly can we as the public comment?

      clive.brink - 2012-10-27 08:36

      Thats exactly the point Karel, it will take you months to find out, then it would be too late, and if you could slip an objection in in time, you realy think they'll listen to you. At best they will window dress to drop the tarif with another 5 cents, and 1 year later raise it with 50 cents, like we have become to know this money hungry corrupt monster. Your only protest can be not to register for this joke.

      kobie.nel1 - 2012-10-28 00:19

      mphahle@dot.gov.za At least it WAS the place to comment, but after a few comments no e-mails got trough anymore, but it is worth a try. Check the Afrikaans Nuus24 comments. Those guys get the adresses somehow.

  • derek.wright.7370 - 2012-10-27 08:16

    And there are still traffic jams and logjams at the slightest bumper bashing or broken down vehicle. Have they upgraded alternative routes as agreed.I think not!

  • archangel.zerachiel - 2012-10-27 08:19

    Those tolls boths of yours have lots of valuable copper in them. Spread the word.

      masamune.azeem - 2012-10-28 11:22

      hhahahaaaa,will do

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-10-27 08:23

    All these comments against the e-tolling and yet people are still gonna use the roads and pay anyways.....no real unity against government.

  • lesleyb.smit - 2012-10-27 08:29

    WHERE ARE ALL THE MISSING COMMENTS???? RIGHTIOUS ANGER OF THE TAXPAYER/MOTORISTS TOO MUCH TO HANDLE?? (Sorry about the caps!!)

      kobie.nel1 - 2012-10-28 00:20

      As far as I'm concerned, you could bold the caps in this case.

  • OptimisticThoughts - 2012-10-27 08:29

    what the heck is our government doing, clearly they are not thinking of the people who are going tto suffer they only think of enriching themselves and their families. What i want to know is, what are the names of those parties they consulted about this matter? Is clear now that our government has failed us and is incompetent they dont deserve to lead this country.

  • clive.brink - 2012-10-27 08:31

    Yes please! This the dumbest mistake of the money grabbing grabberment. You going to lose big time, how can you be so arrogant otherwise brainless to think that we will fall for this, another one of your corrupt and secret money making deals. In certain parts of the world governing parties are voted or forced out because trains run 1 or 5 minutes late. Dear Mr Zuma, you and your cronies time has come, this indescretion and greed is going to change the face of government, the ruling party, and politics in SA forever. You have gone to far, and when you go please take the Cabal with you. NO E-TAGS NEVER!

  • henk.vanderbijl - 2012-10-27 08:46

    Alex my ou koshuis maat nou daal jy darem woes laag deur ons so uit te verkoop - Wurm.