Paroled killer held for robbery

2012-01-12 14:18

Johannesburg - A paroled murderer used a screwdriver to try and rob a woman in Quigney, East London, on Thursday said Eastern Cape police.

The 49-year-old man was taken into police custody around 07:30, after a colleague of the woman made a citizen's arrest, said Lieutenant-Colonel Mtati Tana.

The colleague stopped the robbery and held the man at gunpoint while waiting for the police to arrive.

The man was convicted of murder and robbery, was sentenced to life imprisonment in Mthatha in 1989 and was paroled between 2007 and 2008.

He had not reported to the Mthatha police station on January 9 as required under his parole conditions, said Tana.

He had since been taken back to Mthatha and handed over to correctional services where he will be re-imprisoned for breaking his parole conditions.

Tana said the man would now also face a charge of robbery in the Mthatha Magistrate's Court.

  • Blade - 2012-01-12 14:26

    Why is it called Dept of Correctional Services? Have they ever been able to correct killers?

      Willie - 2012-01-12 15:06

      Take him straight to jail no hearing

      Lungani - 2012-01-12 16:33

      As far as the parole board does not consist of victims or relatives of victims but people who easily gets decieved by criminals who holds the holy books of religions(Bible, Koran, Torah etc) when these oldies(parole board) visit the prison, there will be this issues croping up all the time. Only victims and relatives of victims with one doctor, one social worker shoould constitute the paraloe board of 6 to 8 peaple. Then such incidents will stop because their parole request will stand the test of queries and time before granted.

      GWS - 2012-01-12 22:08

      This cretin could not wait to get out of jail so that he could revive his career. I guess he's out of shape and just needs more practice.

  • carpejugulim - 2012-01-12 14:35

    I wasn't aware that "life imprisonment" was under 20 years

      Willie - 2012-01-12 15:06

      Where have you been this is die nuwe suid afrika

      Squeegee - 2012-01-12 15:10

      Unless the judgement is "without parole" people get off for good behaviour worldwide, even on a "life improsonment" sentence. Has nothing to do with SA - old or new.

      carpejugulim - 2012-01-12 15:43

      Right here in good ole SA Willie, that was said tongue in cheek. according to Wikipedia, granted a citation is needed, with a life sentence one can apply for parole at 10, 15 or 20 years Just think ... all that time that the taxpayers have been contributing to his upkeep and he gets let out and goes back in again. I can think of many ways that a serving prisoner can be productive and earn their upkeep rather than a burden to society as sadly there are some prisoners that can never be rehabilitated

      GWS - 2012-01-12 22:16

      In South Africa a mass murderer that walks into a church and slaughters innocent unarmed civilians gets out after a few years....and goes on to do a crime soon after, so why can't a normal murdering scumbag get out after twenty years. In South Africa one is taught that there is no need to worry about accountability for actions.

  • Chantelle - 2012-01-12 14:38

    i dont know why, but time and time again, it gets proven that people who kill (MURDER) intentionally, should not be given parole. most get parole, and commit murder again... this is just going on how many stories i read.. before the internet trolls and grammar nazis crucify me...

  • Shirley - 2012-01-12 14:41

    Youre joking right??? Murder and robbery and he is out??? Maybe if they didnt hand paroles out like free condoms and actually realised that murderers VERY seldom are able to be rehabilited and the violence in his "hold up" proves this! But no big surprise after all the parole board believed Schaik was dying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Siso - 2012-01-12 14:42

    Clearly the time he spent in jail didn't teach him anything, this time he derseve to get life without parole. They say a Leopard doesnt change its spots and in this case its very true. A job well done to the colleague..

  • Justin - 2012-01-12 14:43

    Bring back the death penalty!!! or are we scared we going to loose too many of our supporters (voters)???

  • Myvision - 2012-01-12 14:44

    I hope he was not on medical parole or house supervision

  • Max - 2012-01-12 14:47

    How serious must a crime be in South Africa for a person to actually stay in jail, if murder doesn't do it what does?

      John - 2012-01-12 14:56

      In answer to Max, it looks like giving illegal weather forecasts may just do it.

      Squeegee - 2012-01-12 15:11

      Or tax evasion.

  • John - 2012-01-12 14:55

    Well done to the person who made the Citizens arrest. I only have one criticism and that is "Why didn't you do us all a favour and shoot the bastard?".

      Cameronl - 2012-01-12 15:04

      alot of people may find what you said as cruel and inhumane, however I agree with you 100%, why not do us all a favour a kill the bastard. I guess he`d have dirty blood on his hands, who wants that

      Shirley - 2012-01-12 15:09

      Good point-would of been the local hero!

      Kyle - 2012-01-12 15:50

      because with our laws he would have been in jail for murder, and it's a far more serious offence to shoot a criminal in SA.... seems if you're a crminal it's fine you get out on early parol, but if you shoot a criminal it's a whole new ball game!

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  • Ashley - 2012-01-12 15:03

    I think for someone who commits a crime and spends more than 10 years in jail, loses their "normal way of thinking" if let out and can only perform everday duties as he would if he was in jail, which include robbing, assault, etc.

      Shirley - 2012-01-12 17:01

      Um if he commited murder I dont think his thinking was ever normal!

  • frans.grobler3 - 2012-01-12 15:20

    OK - Next please - f"cking SA leadership.

  • Moi - 2012-01-12 15:40

    Why was he ever allowed out on parole???? A convicted murderer sentenced to life imprisonment, out on parole???? What the hell is our legal system doing???????

  • lukman.akinwande - 2012-01-12 15:49

    Its no more news. Something is terribly wrong in SA!

  • Willem - 2012-01-12 16:21

    The difficulty is the NEW South Africa BELIEVES that it is a 1st world country - hence it has a Super 1st World constitution, suitable for a truly super world country such as Switzerland or New Zealand with 10 murders per annum, in stead of roughly 50 per diem as is the case here. The majority locally is still not civilized enough for this constitution and the highly civilized ideas it contains regarding "cruel and inhumane punishment". The death penalty was held to be "cruel and inhumane" punishment by the Constitutional Court and abolished - a grave error which has caused a number of people to go to their grave before their time. The "cruel and inhumane" punishment meted out by the murderers of innocent law abiding citizens of all sexes and ages does not appear to be taken into consideration when these "cruel and inhumane" perpetrators are sentenced to imprisonment "for life". They are given a life whereas their life should be taken from them - that would at least demonstrate that the innocent victim's life is not worth LESS than that of the criminal. The death penalty should be brought back so that the "punishment can fit the crime" once again. The myth that a murderer can be "rehabilitated" has no factual basis. I would dearly love to know the number of murders presently being committed in the jails by these felons. It must be quite substantial since they have nothing to lose - another life sentence is meaningless to a lifer.

      sekhorane.tukishi - 2012-01-12 16:56

      Willem, remember we don't live in a perfect world. Nor is South Africa perfect, now and during apartheid. It's for that reason that with death penalty you gotta be careful. Some people have been made into criminals due to even just a life sentence. Reason for this is that they were WRONGFULLY sentenced. If you were at the WRONGFUL RECEIVING END you would love our constitution, otherwise you would not be alive to write how WRONFULLY modern it is. Who are you? A perfect CITIZEN making the most positive contribution in this lovely country of ours?

      Willem - 2012-01-12 17:34

      Sekhorane, nothing and nobody is perfect in this world, we all know that. For that reason the courts are very careful in their judgments and, in all criminal cases the State must prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt. All evidence is therefore carefully weighed and tested. And, in cases where the death penalty applied, the courts were especially careful. I am not aware of a single case in this country where it was found afterwards that an executed party was wrongfully convicted. I know of such cases in other countries where a different judicial system applies, but not here. Not every wrongful killing is murder and I do not advocate the death penalty for every wrongful killing. But, as in the past, murder without extenuating circumstances deserves death and, some cases where there might be extenuation also deserve death. And, if the courts are prohibited from doing so, then, as we have seen in a number of recent events, the "people" will impose that penalty - unfortunately without the benefit of a fair trial. Because the common man in the street still believes that the punishment should fit the crime. In the end it is a war between the law-abiding citizen and the criminal element and I am on the side of the law-abiding citizens.

      sekhorane.tukishi - 2012-01-12 20:44

      Wow Willem. I liked the response. Great. It's very sensible, as opposed to just blaming someone's wrong doings on the type of constitution we have in South Africa. Remembering with the worst and even the best constitution some people are just criminals, and no type of constitution's gonna change them. But we normal law-abiding citizens should not go down to their level of criminality for some equalisation sake!

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