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Pictures of Zuma's Nkandla home illegal

2013-11-21 14:38

Pretoria - Ministers in the security cluster say South Africans should desist from publishing and distributing images of President Jacob Zuma's Nkandla home.

"It is against the law. We are asking nicely that people no longer do it,” said State Security Minister Siyabonga Cwele during a media briefing on Thursday.

The briefing was to discuss Cabinet’s meeting on Wednesday. The ministers in the security cluster were in attendance to address the Nkandla issue.

Key point

Cwele and Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa made it clear that it is against the law to take photographs and distribute photographs of national key points.

Mthethwa said that the Nkandla homestead had been declared a national key point in 2008 and this means people that have photos or images may be in possession of classified information.

The cluster ministers said that media houses will be contacted and asked to no longer publish pictures of Nkandla.

“This kind of thing happens nowhere else in the world in no other democracy,” said Cwele.

It’s unclear how an entity like Google will be prevented from publishing Nkandla on its Google images and maps functionality.

It is also unknown if photographs of other key points like the Union Buildings and Parliament are now also banned, or if the matter is only relating to the president’s private home. The opening of Parliament is broadcast globally every year. It’s uncertain how this will not be affected.

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Comments
  • Poloyatonki Kgosi - 2013-11-21 14:41

    National key point for corruption...

      Jack Tig - 2013-11-21 14:44

      It is our tax money that built it so we will take as many pictures as we want.

      Frank O. Cockburn - 2013-11-21 14:49

      HUH? National Weak Point? Oh okay

      Revelgen - 2013-11-21 14:50

      National Key Point se voet. It is a national waste of taxpayers' money for someone who thinks it is still 1812, and he is The Big Zulu Chief. Now, Siyabonga Cwele (by the way how's your drug-smuggling ex-wife?), you are going to have to ban Google Earth, just like Juliarse was going to ban Twitter.

      Utopian Idealist - 2013-11-21 14:53

      “This kind of thing happens nowhere else in the world in no other democracy,” Yes, no one has ever seen a picture of Obama's white house or David Cameron's 10 Downing Street. Go back to bed, the whole lot of you.

      Colin Malan - 2013-11-21 15:00

      The more they ( ANC fall men ) protest the deeper they are wiggling themselves into quagmire .. Mac lie must be taking a break..

      Graham Leslie Hurlstone-jones - 2013-11-21 15:01

      Ha Ha Ha....The bully boys are now throwing there toys and want there ball back...... They use the word democracy like a weapon......ANC v SA.

      Ntombi Mabuyandile Mabuya Mtimande - 2013-11-21 15:05

      What is illegal was the amount of money that he used to upgrade his Nkandla Massion.

      Vince Rebuzzi - 2013-11-21 15:05

      You know whats against the law, you thiefs.

      Timothy Schuler - 2013-11-21 15:07

      what a crock of crap, we are completely losing all medias within freedom of speech.

      Louis Krüger - 2013-11-21 15:09

      FFS Doleba Asavuna, if I had R5 for every time this drivel was copy and pasted I could build my own Nkandla. Come up with something new.

      Eric Moneyvalu - 2013-11-21 15:11

      That is a private home paid for by our taxes. Its not a national keypoint.

      Itumeleng Telepath Mabena - 2013-11-21 15:12

      @Doleba, your comment is irrelevant. This is not about black or white, it's about our retarded president spending our tax money on his luxuries. Are you renting a room there? Coz you don't seem to care about your money, while we actually give a damn.

      Magda Henning Human - 2013-11-21 15:12

      Just went on Google read the following: »Fear of rape, earthquakes motivated Nkandla upgrades. City press. Zuma's fear is someone might rape him hehehehehe...another thing, hell we have huge earthquakes in South Africa

      Joe Black - 2013-11-21 15:15

      @Dobela: You post the same tired crap every time. If there was any white supremacy left in this country then Zuma would not even be allowed to build this monstrosity. So stop being such an irritating spammer and wake up to the real world.

      Eric Jansen Van Vuuren - 2013-11-21 15:20

      Any law that stands in contrast to our Constitution is an "Outlaw" or an illegal law or if you will an undemocratic law. There for a criminal procedure forced "unconstitutionally" on the Republic of South Africa. We the people have only one defense against the government and that is our Constitution. Witch clearly details our right under the Constitution to freedom of information, especially in the face of such open & arrogant corruption covering(s) by creating laws to meet a corrupt end.

      Johan Uys - 2013-11-21 15:20

      Ok, as long as US drones keep an eye on this key point.

      Eterni80 - 2013-11-21 15:23

      So pictures of Zumagabe's residence are now illegal soon even thinking about nkandla will be illegal WAKE UP PEOPLE DARKNESS IS FALLING ACROSS SA AND IT ISN'T ESKOM'S FAULT THIS TIME.

      Broke Xoli - 2013-11-21 15:30

      @stront I stole your "dots" they make so much sense..

      Jennifer DuPreez Martin - 2013-11-21 15:34

      Look at Zuma Nkandla on GOOGLE MAPS It's a monster The biggest money laundry you'll ever see where our taxes are nicely washed and pressed and stashed away for a rainy day Bu99er the rest of the people who are struggling to feed house and school their families. STOP VOTING ANC

      CliveK - 2013-11-21 15:35

      Doleba: what have your racist utterings got to do with Nkandla and NKPs? Get a life and find a job, as you obviously have nothing constructive with which to occupy your tiny mind.

      Kuno Tschumi - 2013-11-21 15:41

      “This kind of thing happens nowhere else in the world in no other democracy,” said Cwele. just checked google images and i found pictures of the white house in the USA, the house of parliament in England, the Bundestag in Germany, the Bundeshaus in Switzerland... guess cwele's statement is wrong. if they just could get over themselves and understand that they are by far not as important as they think.

      Alan Smith - 2013-11-21 15:45

      too think that Mandela's long walk to freedom was in vain. so sad.

      Alan Smith - 2013-11-21 15:48

      Is the cANCer going to file criminal charges against Google, NASA and the European Space Agency?

      Andrew Terr - 2013-11-21 15:48

      WTF,and when he is no longer President?What will it be? With a bunker filled with the missing 30 billion it has to be a 'national keep point'

      Dave Elmore - 2013-11-21 16:02

      The stupidity of this whole issue is summed up quite nicely in the last paragraph of the article....at least we won't have to suffer through the opening of Parliament anymore?

      Quenton Crafford - 2013-11-21 16:13

      Siyabonga Cwele, suck it you dont tell me what I can and cant do, now run home your mom lost count at kid number 14 you obviously not inline

      Ol Mabaso - 2013-11-21 17:22

      actually...who lives in Nkandla?

      Rory Neil Price - 2013-11-21 19:05

      Doleba and Michael Jackson did everything in his power to be white, what is your point

      Andre Jacobs - 2013-11-22 09:55

      Why don't they just declare zuma a key point and no more photos will be shown of this guy using tax payers money for personal use. We don't want to see him again. He is dragging good people down his road of corruption--the architect that did his zumville without security clearance is now in deep trouble and if he got paid in cash and Sars doesn't know about it, then he can go to jail.

      Andre Jacobs - 2013-11-22 11:05

      Zuma is insulting the people of SA by using tax payer's money illegally for personal use. If he had any self respect he would have built his own complex and he would have given housing to his wives-------NOT LETTING OTHER PEOPLE PAY FOR THEIR UPKEEP. IS ZUMA A POOR MAN THAT HE CANNOT AFFORD TO LOOK AFTER HIS OWN WIVES AND FAMILY.????

      Andre Jacobs - 2013-11-22 11:25

      IF THEY HAVE A TUCK SHOP IN A key point then it means the security is at its lowest. The ministers responsible for the security of this "key" point must be fired--- they allow the most blatant security risks------and they allowed an architect WITH NO SECURITY CLEARANCE TO DESIGN THIS KNOWING THE SMALLEST DETAIL---------FIRE THEM,-- THEY FAILED A BASIC "DUTY"

  • Gerald Craig Steyn - 2013-11-21 14:42

    Right, so I cant take a picture of the Whitehouse, or no. 10 Downing Street? BS.

      Neil Ross - 2013-11-21 14:48

      Good point. Anyway, sorry to tell the government, but there are pictures of the Nkandla compound all over the Internet. What they gonna do? Arrest the Internet. Idiots.

      Nontuthuzelo Ka Svig Jolingana - 2013-11-21 14:52

      Technically your statement is invalid, you see the Whitehouse is the official Presidential residence but Nkandla is Zoomer's Private Residence. Although its not really private anymore considering that public funds were used to upgrade it. But I understand your viewpoint.

      Vince Rebuzzi - 2013-11-21 15:07

      IAMAO

      Erich Goosen - 2013-11-21 15:12

      This whole matter of National Key points is very intriguing. The State refuses point blank to publish a comprehensive list of key points but when it suits them, they will just decree that a certain place is a national key point. My definition of a national key point is 'a place, building or other secret installation which is erected or maintained for a KEY in a clandestine way with tax payers monies usually used for corrupt purposes and where extravagant tax payers monies are spent for the exclusive use of the KEY and where no questions should be asked because it will embarrass the KEY.'

      Geoff Anderson - 2013-11-21 15:23

      The whole world can see everything on Google Earth including the "Street View", although not many people would be interested in viewing some compound on the dark continent. Does anyone remember Idi Amin?

      Eterni80 - 2013-11-21 15:25

      the ANC are tightening their grip around SA's throat, like a snake that's realising that its prey is about to slip away

      Jane Hampson - 2013-11-21 15:31

      Exactly Cwele really doesn't know what he is talking about, I wish someone would tell him about it all, enlighten him to the ways of the world.

      AntiThesis - 2013-11-22 07:18

      Gerald, the honourable minister himself said: "This kind of thing happens nowhere else in the world in no other democracy," said Cwele. Damn right.

      Stirer Kathray - 2013-11-22 12:44

      That's right! And why must the taxpayer fork out for Zuma's PRIVATE residence in addition to the TWO official residences in Cape Town and in Pretoria - where he should be staying in the first place! When Zuma's term of office comes to an end, are they going to recover the security elements from Nkandla in order to beef up security for the next president?

  • Desilusionada - 2013-11-21 14:44

    AAAAG KHAK. Watse str0nt nog?....

  • Ntlanganiso Qwabe - 2013-11-21 14:44

    Amazulu National Congress....

  • Victor Mendes - 2013-11-21 14:45

    If Zuma stops stealing taxpayers money we will think about it!

  • Timothy Tanzer - 2013-11-21 14:45

    this government is doing a good job at making themselves popular with the masses... t-shirts and chicken will not work this time.

      Ol Mabaso - 2013-11-21 17:29

      maybe its time for t shirts with pic of Nkandla?

  • Brian Macdougall - 2013-11-21 14:45

    Just more BS to hide behind while they can

  • Timothy Tanzer - 2013-11-21 14:46

    Government is a joke... Nkandla ...classified info?, yet your contractor didn't have security clearances. what a joke.

      Frank O. Cockburn - 2013-11-21 14:53

      These ANC guys are just like Bob Mugabe. Desperate to declare everything state secret so they can keep stealing the people's money and hold onto power. Typical signs of the desperately insecure!

  • Emma Sanderson - 2013-11-21 14:46

    As the tax payers have paid for this I really don't see why not? I hardly think the president is under threat and anyone so minded would find it easily enough in today's information age so really what is the point? I don't think it is the pictures that is the problem but rather the negative press and that is just fact.

  • Musa KamaShobane - 2013-11-21 14:46

    Which law by the way Siyabonga Cwele are you referring to? National Key point declared by who? An aerial picture of Zuma's compound has been in the media for so long before it was conveniently declared as such. ANC & Nkandla you are going to pay the price for treating us like idiots or illiterates.

      Timothy Tanzer - 2013-11-21 14:50

      hear hear!

      Ol Mabaso - 2013-11-21 17:33

      The so called Cluster addressing their illiterate voters ...or what?

  • Colin Nelson - 2013-11-21 14:47

    Brevitatus Causa. And how do we come to that conclusion?

  • Fernel Campher - 2013-11-21 14:48

    This Security expert must not worry about pictures taken. Worry about the architect and the people who benefited from building this expensive hut.

  • D'Bongs Meant - 2013-11-21 14:48

    No why, I need to see where my money went to. And again... I did google white-house and even have the plan as it is with the oval office, once again minister you are lying.

  • Rudolph Opperman - 2013-11-21 14:49

    Can I have my car declared a national key point, bye-bye traffic fines!

  • Kalahari Kgalagadi Safaris - 2013-11-21 14:49

    Aaaggghhh ffsakes stupid bloody anc just shut up and die. Trying to hide the bling bling cattle kraal?

  • Marc Ross - 2013-11-21 14:49

    Just use a picture of Pretoria Zoo. We'll get the drift.

  • cosmic.w.love - 2013-11-21 14:50

    Hilarious !!!

  • Jay Rammekwa - 2013-11-21 14:50

    You don't want the public to publish photo's of nkandla????why?? You wan't to add another buidings and waste or tax moola, shower head plz you don't match our thinking capacity

  • Trevor Mashilo - 2013-11-21 14:50

    White House is a Key Point bt u cn Google it nd Even the CIA building is a Key Point bt u cn Google It.Stop lying to us Minister

      Portia Digomo - 2013-11-21 14:53

      Wow! Is it Mashilio now? Go ra gore its getting hot here.

      Trevor Mashilo - 2013-11-21 15:15

      Aowa this ministers think that we're illiterate like them nd I believe that they cannot even Attach an E-Mail

      Zebedi Spring - 2013-11-21 16:05

      Trevor, not trying to be funny here, but the definition of illiterate is the inability to read and write. If the ministers are judging you on the quality of your spelling and grammar content, they would then be correct in their assumption. Please mate, we will all take you more seriously if you take the time to add a few vowels to your sentences.

  • Nick Bozman - 2013-11-21 14:51

    My wife used to sell drugs there-so please no more photos.

  • Portia Digomo - 2013-11-21 14:51

    Let us rise up beyond Party politics and do to the anc what we did to the Nats! Burn! Burn! Burn! Burn! That is the language the Nats understood. And that is the pain anc will feel.

  • cosmic.w.love - 2013-11-21 14:51

    Hilarious!!

  • NewsLover - 2013-11-21 14:51

    Parliament can no longer be televised because it's a national key point. Guffaw...

  • Bantu Holomisa - 2013-11-21 14:52

    Send us a copy of a government gazette which declared Zuma's private home as a NKP.

      Timothy Tanzer - 2013-11-21 15:08

      ya, let us see the proof!

      Nontuthuzelo Ka Svig Jolingana - 2013-11-21 15:28

      they can't send you something that doesn't exist

      M R Lee Masoka - 2013-11-21 15:31

      This security cluster crap is a real joke...I thought Nathi Mthethwa was smarter than this...my word

      Dave Elmore - 2013-11-21 16:10

      You thought Nathi was smart? Hhahhaaaaahhhhhaaaaahhahahahahahah

      Du Toit Coetzee - 2013-11-21 17:07

      That is maybe why they did not provide one.....yet, when some-one in parlement requested it. It is nice to play cards when one can keep the Jokers and constintly change the rules to suit you.

      Baba - 2013-11-22 09:04

      Thank you Mr Holomisa! That's what I am talking about ppl of sense. 1 sentence and no rubish comment from our so called white politicians in this wall. Can you please find a way to unite your party with EFF and only then we will see some progress in our country.

  • Alice Pretorius - 2013-11-21 14:52

    Bullsh@t. The whole world knows where it is for the wrong reasons though. Useless bunch ...

  • Chris Felton - 2013-11-21 14:53

    Man, these guys continue to find ways to show us just how retarded they are. " This happens no were else in the world", just shows how tiny their world is. Shame must be hard being so DOFF.

  • Zebedee Kok - 2013-11-21 14:53

    In that case let the Guptas land there.

  • DerpyHooves - 2013-11-21 14:53

    I've tried looking for Nkandla on Google Map, but I can't find Zuma's house. Anyone here have better luck?

      Johnny Walker - 2013-11-21 15:49

      You must use Google Earth and not Maps

  • Johnny Smith - 2013-11-21 14:54

    Our Secret Committee of Secret Services are 100% correct. You can't take pictures of private... sorry, National Strategic, homes! Our number 1 does need privacy while visiting one of his wives once a week... he can't visit the same one every night - there are simply too many of them. And what will the world think of our number one if the curtains are not drawn? Lately most of his most intimate secrets became public and we all know what happened. And what about the other wives? They might just get jealous. Therefore, utmost secrecy is the answer to limit household quarrels. If this can be done using the national keypoints legislation, why not?

      Marc Ross - 2013-11-21 15:09

      The wives are just a smoke screen. Zuma and Mac, Shaik and Gupta - what do you think happens in that secret bunker?

  • Arthur Louw - 2013-11-21 14:54

    Zuma is the next Mugabe. A dictator and should be stopped at all costs.

      Johnny Walker - 2013-11-21 16:00

      You mean Zuma is the next Idi Amin Dada!

      Johnny Walker - 2013-11-21 16:03

      And why isn't his official residences in Pretoria and Capetown not National Key points?????

  • Anthony Paulse - 2013-11-21 14:54

    Now its illegal to display photos of Nkandla, but when they started with the whole thing the contractors were not even given the proper clearance or security checks done on them. Now they push the National Keypoint line when it suits them to do so. Just one big joke.

  • Zohan Steppingstone - 2013-11-21 14:55

    “This kind of thing happens nowhere else in the world in no other democracy,” said Cwele. Google "Whitehouse" A s s hole.

      Timothy Tanzer - 2013-11-21 15:10

      'what is this United States of America you talk of?'

  • Arthur Louw - 2013-11-21 14:55

    Is whore houses no classified as key points as well?

  • Nontuthuzelo Ka Svig Jolingana - 2013-11-21 14:55

    I have pictures of Mandela's Qunu Residence, I have taken pictures in front of his place... Now what is so special about Zoomer's house??

      Frank O. Cockburn - 2013-11-21 15:03

      He demands his privacy as the ruler of Africa. Africa is not big enough for Zuma's ego and a few cameras.

      Frank O. Cockburn - 2013-11-21 15:04

      And if you accidentally spill a drink on him, you'll be harassed, manhandled and face the full might of Zuma's ANC government. Nice loving and caring president we have, ne?

  • rubin.frieslaar - 2013-11-21 14:55

    Aagh.This one couldint even find out that his wife is busy with drug mulling.but his in da security cluster.what a joke

  • Dirk Hattingh - 2013-11-21 14:59

    I will go and put up a picture of it in every corner of this country if I could to show everyone what the president does whith moeny promised for houses and education!!!!!!

  • mark.heath.3388 - 2013-11-21 14:59

    Screw you idiots, we paid for it!

  • Evans T-bag Mhangwane - 2013-11-21 14:59

    I had no intentions of publishing them but now that you have mentioned it....come get me, the photos will be all over! corruption is clouding your thinking you bunch of thugs!

  • Vuyo Manisi - 2013-11-21 14:59

    Minister Siyabonga Cwele, opening your mouth is illegal

      Chris Felton - 2013-11-21 17:04

      Nice one Vuyo.

  • Dylan Taylor - 2013-11-21 15:00

    But the public paid for the house just about? So explain the logic as in how the public cannot see pictures of it?

  • Psywulf - 2013-11-21 15:00

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  • Khatwo Nenongwe - 2013-11-21 15:00

    I cant wait for EFF TO TAKE OVER SO DAT THEY WIL BE AUCTION FOR NKANDLA

  • Maria Madgalena Venter - 2013-11-21 15:00

    This is just one of the government's jokes, right? We have been seeing photos of this dreaded place for months now and all of sudden we are told it has been declared a national key point in 2008 already. So what is the point of of telling people they are not allowed to take photos of it now, it defeats the object. A small fortune was spent on the "security upgrade" on Nkandla so they should not worry about security breaches. I am sure it must be the most secure estate in the world. Hell, it must be safer behind those walls than any prison in our country. The lot of you are "papbroeke", what are so scared of - maybe the wrath and the possible retaliation of the people for the endless squandering of our tax money.

      Ol Mabaso - 2013-11-21 17:38

      WHO lives in Nkandla??????????????????????????????????

  • Fred Smith - 2013-11-21 15:01

    Guptas only then I guess I paid for Mr Zuma's private residence so I expect to see what I paid for!

  • Graham Johnson - 2013-11-21 15:01

    This reminds of....Oh yes, The Nats & Apartheid!

      CliveK - 2013-11-21 16:19

      So does this make it acceptable, Graham?

      Marc Ross - 2013-11-21 16:59

      @ Graham me too, First the Nats now the ANC. When it comes to choosing leaders we South Africans are a silly bunch of retards. But I'm hoping we have learnt our lessons (how can we not have). We need to unite for the benifit of all. Our leaders past and present have always used our fears instead of appealing to the love and kindness we all have somewhere in our harts.

  • Timothy Tanzer - 2013-11-21 15:02

    so when zuma is not president any more... will his house still be a keypoint?

  • dickenseze - 2013-11-21 15:03

    They ddnt publish Pw Botha's house or Fw De kleks yet they hv de nerve to do it on Zuma....i feel sorry fr black south africans who ar being used in this regime change en recist agenda that is being spearheaded by de enemies of de black majority rule.

      Gabriel Mabitsela - 2013-11-21 15:11

      Yes they were nt build by corruption n u shud also include the house of Mandela n Mbeki. Stop raciallising every thing when ur exposed 2 ur failer.

      Thukhe Ndlovu Farmer - 2013-11-21 15:17

      Broer, if u cant see what the anc is doing about our country then ure your own worst enemy! Just wake yourself up and see the squalor sorrounding inkandla. Go and take a peep at pw botha and de klerk's sorrounding maybe that will give u a clue what this 'agenda' is all about. De klerk and Botha might have neglected us but they made so sure that their own are not left behind, we hated them so much that we finaly removed them from power. Are we to sit idle and be so happy that the very same people we put in govt are doing much worse than what Botha did to us? Nakanye!

      dickenseze - 2013-11-21 15:37

      U ar enjoyin de freedom en democracy fought fr by de anc yet u ar busy defending de apatheid regime.....mandela shld hv forgiven those who killed en commited crime against humanity bcoz this rainbow nation thing is making others feel like they ar saints wen we knw they arent.

      Thukhe Ndlovu Farmer - 2013-11-21 15:54

      Dick, i am not buzy defending apartheid here, its not for to defend or blast it. But u are best left alone with your dreams! U just chose to bury yourself deep into them, u dont want to see the harsh realities our people are subjected to on a daily basis by their own govt. Good luck pal!

      Antipoaching - 2013-11-21 16:24

      uhm dickenseze, actually there were many pics of PW's house at Wilderness

      Chris Felton - 2013-11-21 17:06

      Yawn

  • Andrew M - 2013-11-21 15:03

    Does anyone know the criteria for Private homesteads to be declared a National key point. So is the Mandela home in EC ant national key point and what about Thaba Mbeki's home in Houghton ?? How about Parliament Buildings in Cape Town or for that matter the Union Buildings in Pretoria. Maybe these sites are nominated ad hoc just to cover up all wrongful spends. The more these ministers try to justify this spend, the more public will and should demand to be informed.

  • Matome Malahlela - 2013-11-21 15:03

    lol you wanted to keep it a secret???? come arrest me cosi will never stop distributing them

      Nukki Green - 2013-11-21 16:21

      look it op on Google, there are pages and pages of the whole story lol

  • Timothy Tanzer - 2013-11-21 15:04

    hahaha... even the SABC has taken pics... you going to arrest them?

      Frank O. Cockburn - 2013-11-21 15:11

      So basically, the rest of the world can take pictures, just not South Africans. Cause the rest of the world doesn't give a toss about Zuma's self-indulgent laws...