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Pistorius: Crime of passion not ruled out

2013-06-10 09:11

Pretoria - The State will attempt to prove that Oscar Pistorius killed Reeva Steenkamp on the spur of the moment, and the possibility of a “crime of passion” has not been ruled out.

A source made this revelation to Volksblad based on forensic evidence that was gathered at the crime scene.

In legal terms, a crime of passion is a defendant's excuse for a violent crime due to sudden rage or heartbreak, rather than a premeditated crime.

The source also revealed that the trajectory of the bullets through the bathroom door indicated that Pistorius may indeed have been on his stumps when he fired the shots.

The source indicated he didn’t think it was right of the State to claim in the bail application that Pistorius was wearing his prosthetics before having analysed the evidence.

Police have apparently not ruled out the possibility that Steenkamp's death was not an accident.

Shots

It would also appear that the first shot that hit her was to the lower body. If the first shot fired from the 9mm pistol had been to her head, she would immediately have fallen forward, according to the source.

Steenkamp apparently had several wounds.

The key to the bathroom was apparently in the door and it was thought that she had locked the door. 

The source also said the publication of photographs of the scene of the shooting would in no way hamper the case. "It's not a secret. Everyone knows she was shot in the bathroom. There was lots of blood, most of it around the toilet."

Pistorius will appear in court again on 19 August 2013.

Comments
  • jaco.badenhorst.12 - 2013-06-10 09:23

    I foresee that this case will drag on for a very long time...

      Democrazy - 2013-06-10 10:49

      Justice my foot!

      Harris Philip - 2013-06-14 13:34

      You DONT pull the trigger FOUR times by "accident" !!

  • Danie de Klerk - 2013-06-10 09:24

    To the source: you don't think its right for state to have said those things in the bail hearing, but do you think its right talking about the vase to the media? Why not let justice prevail

  • jacques.shepperson - 2013-06-10 09:30

    "indicated that Pistorius may indeed have been on his stumps when he fired the shots.....didn’t think it was right of the State to claim in the bail application that Pistorius was wearing his prosthetics before having analysed the evidence." Why did they lie about it? Do you lie when seeking justice and truth?

      Cassandra - 2013-06-10 12:28

      likely when you want 'truth and justice' on your terms, you'll lie, yes you will.

  • Sbo Kubeka - 2013-06-10 09:32

    The media is becoming ridiculous, just let the legal process take its course. We don't want to hear from the media what evidence prosecution has gathered.

      Henk Venter - 2013-06-10 10:07

      Well said Sbongile!!!

  • Erich Goosen - 2013-06-10 09:43

    Too many speculation now. Let us rather wait for the trial.

  • Richard - 2013-06-10 09:43

    From all that has come out so far it is clear that Pistorius had a dark side. Temper flares were not uncommon with him. Even if he thought it was a burglar, the burglar was then behind a door with nowhere to go and he could then have called Reeva to get the security whilst he guards the door with a burglar trapped behind it. Shooting 4 shots was not his only available option to protect himself. He will go down.

      Cassandra - 2013-06-10 12:30

      I think you're right also.

  • Henk Venter - 2013-06-10 10:05

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but it will only be speculation to say that the first shot went through her lower body. It all depends on how quick the shots were fired!

      Gail Hayes-Bean - 2013-06-11 09:14

      My understanding is that he was a well trained gunman and that shooting 4 shots is really incredibly quick with the weapon that was used. It is the why he felt the need to shoot through a seemingly closed door before establishing the whereabouts of Reeva that puzzles me. The only thing I can imagine is that he was on meds for pain pluc alcohol and maybe steroids and just didn't think.

  • Janine Hughes - 2013-06-10 10:13

    Crime of passion or accident the fact is he shot her. Just can't quite wrap my head around the accident part with all the security in place. We don't have security and I don't somehow think my husband will shoot at a closed bathroom door thinking there is a burglar in side. Anyhow let justice prevail.

  • Abdullah Jassat - 2013-06-10 10:14

    whats the point of this article??

      Cassandra - 2013-06-10 12:32

      To give people something to write about. The media aren't the only ones with views to be considered, mate.

  • Richard Scully - 2013-06-10 10:18

    It is still premeditated because he had all the time from picking up the gun, stumping along to the bathroom, and then deciding to shoot. Come of passion is more like walking into the room finding her in bed with someone, immediately whacking someone over the head, but that cZn still be premeditated

      Cassandra - 2013-06-10 12:35

      Premeditation is extremely difficult to prove. Goes to attitude and motive, in other words what was in your head when you did the evil deed. We want 'thought police' for that. No doubt they'll come. The ANC will no doubt develop them...!

  • Freya Agnello - 2013-06-10 10:27

    She'd found out that he was planning to end it with her and she wouldn't leave.

  • Deon K. Alexander - 2013-06-10 10:30

    Oscar:-my track hero,i salute you...

      Collins Ntelele - 2013-06-11 05:39

      U salute him for.......killing someone or as an athlete?

  • Andre Maritz - 2013-06-10 10:34

    I am no legal expert but it can only be a crime of passion, or pre-meditated murder, but surely not both!?

  • Elvis Brown - 2013-06-10 10:34

    The pain leaves me unconscious well,can u tell me WAT WOLUD a BURGLER need in a locked BATHROOM? Did (he/she ?) want 2 bath?

      Coen Venter - 2013-06-10 10:47

      elvis far as i knÓw its just a toilet tell me what idiot burglar would hide in a small toilet room with no way out

      Debi Whitman - 2013-06-10 12:36

      err the bathroom was the supposed point of entry into the house - If it had been an intruder that is!

  • Coen Venter - 2013-06-10 10:44

    oscar i hope you rot in jail

  • Renaldo Tarentaal - 2013-06-10 11:14

    Follow this psychic on twitter @Numerology_10. One of my favourite. All his predictions came true about Oscar Pistorious and all other...Accurate!

  • Jammies Jamneck - 2013-06-10 11:27

    Here comes the joke court case of the year. Expectations will become dissapointments.Punishment and outcome confusing and public reaction expected....

  • HASANIMA - 2013-06-10 11:48

    Compulsive obssessive disorder, [COD], may not be ruled out

  • Robert Dood - 2013-06-10 11:57

    Blatant murder ... Don't kid yourself he placed her in the bathroom before closing the door and shooting her.

      Belinda Oberholster - 2013-06-10 15:11

      lol

      Anneline Payne - 2013-06-11 09:32

      You're so stupid that you actually think you're clever.......shame!!!!!!!!

      Leoni Kruger - 2013-08-13 11:16

      Robert - Smaak my jou brein is DOOD!

  • Natalie Parks - 2013-06-10 12:16

    So many sources, ever-present, all-knowing. Is the State hoping to prove this as easily as it’s been able to prove pre-med? Possibility of this was ruled out soon as they decided on pre-med. Based on evidence gathered at the scene? Yes, that’ll be why they went for pre-med! A crime of passion doesn’t have to involve “heartbreak”. Besides, in what way would a woman who from her own words and actions was so in love have suddenly hurt a man to such extent? They haven’t ruled out it wasn’t an accident? Here I was thinking they went for pre-med because they thought accidental! Her bladder was empty, no urine on floor or pyjama shorts and they were on (evidenced by a shot through them) indicating she was likely to be already standing. Wherever the first shot hit, the impact would push away from the shot direction. May I suggest you find a “source” that knows basic physics,....oh wait! When police got there, she’d already been moved, photos show blood on bowl, floor, wall and around room (as expected) so how’d your “source” know which direction she fell in? Confirmed at bail hearing, post-mortem showed no other wounds but shots. Also stated at bail hearing, key was used by Pistorius. The lock doesn’t need it from inside. Why would leak of photos hamper case? Police malpractice is everyday practice in SA. The fact they show nothing not known is not the point. It’s malpractice. Pistorius will indeed appear in court again on 19 August. Finally, a fact in this article!

  • Natalie Parks - 2013-06-10 12:16

    So many sources, ever-present, all-knowing. Is the State hoping to prove this as easily as it’s been able to prove pre-med? Possibility of this was ruled out soon as they decided on pre-med. Based on evidence gathered at the scene? Yes, that’ll be why they went for pre-med! A crime of passion doesn’t have to involve “heartbreak”. Besides, in what way would a woman who from her own words and actions was so in love have suddenly hurt a man to such extent? They haven’t ruled out it wasn’t an accident? Here I was thinking they went for pre-med because they thought accidental! Her bladder was empty, no urine on floor or pyjama shorts and they were on (evidenced by a shot through them) indicating she was likely to be already standing. Wherever the first shot hit, the impact would push away from the shot direction. May I suggest you find a “source” that knows basic physics,....oh wait! When police got there, she’d already been moved, photos show blood on bowl, floor, wall and around room (as expected) so how’d your “source” know which direction she fell in? Confirmed at bail hearing, post-mortem showed no other wounds but shots. Also stated at bail hearing, key was used by Pistorius. The lock doesn’t need it from inside. Why would leak of photos hamper case? Police malpractice is everyday practice in SA. The fact they show nothing not known is not the point. It’s malpractice. Pistorius will indeed appear in court again on 19 August. Finally, a fact in this article!

  • Robert Dood - 2013-06-10 12:24

    Natalie what about mention at post mortem of the blood stained cricket bat that was found. Did he first hit her with the cricket bat and then place her in the toilet?

      Debi Whitman - 2013-06-10 12:39

      The autopsy showed that her (Reeva's)ONLY injuries were GUN shot wounds!!! please read the facts as reported to the court (bail hearing).

  • Adeline.vSon - 2013-06-10 15:20

    @Renaldo: really? You paste this cr@p on all the articles. On previous days you posted that Mandela was gonna die "that day"... Not so accurate now, are you?

  • Lisa Mouton - 2013-06-11 07:37

    Almal maak foute. Niemand is engeltjies nie. In plaas van soos wolwe op Oscar toesak (wat ook net mens is en nie skuldig is nie-my opinie). Doen bietjie meer ondersoek oor ons Pres wat kyk hoe sy land se mense swaarkry en nie werk en kos het nie en na sy geld sake(R800 vir huur op eiendom) ens. Da is meer mense wat geraak word deur die land se Pres en die kabinet !!!

  • Gail Hayes-Bean - 2013-06-11 09:05

    This scenario is always what I have imagined and for some reason makes it less awful. Premeditated is just so cold and deliberate. Of course Reeva is still gone and he was the instrument of her death and he has to take responsibility for that and live with it for the rest of his life as well as with any consequences such as the end of what had been such an amazing career and beacon of hope to so many South Africans, but he can still do a tremendous amount of good as the one thing this tragedy has established is that he still has a huge number of supporters in South Africa. The law must take its course - in a sense one has to question why a crime of passion is not considered as bad as premeditated in terms of justice when the victim is still dead - I suppose that there is a marginal feeling that it was more of an accident without malice involved. I really hope that the case doesn't drag on too long as we all need closure.

  • Marlene Conradie - 2013-06-24 21:53

    If it was a crime of passion, OsCAR should'I've been honest. Maybe circumstance and perception would'I've been very different. But the first rule in the Murderers Handbook is "deny, deny, deny."

  • Theo Schoeman - 2013-06-29 07:43

    Skiet jou meisie 4 keer, dis makliker as om haar 'n taai klap te gee. Ons samelewing mors miljoene rande en dink ons normale mense is dom. Hang die ou en kry klaar

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