Police chief defends hand-picking staff

2012-03-13 15:38

Cape Town - Acting national police commissioner Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi on Tuesday defended internal, hand-picked appointments in the force, saying the practice may not be fair, but happened worldwide.

"The better thing to do is to choose the person you want... unless you don't have anybody with the qualifications, then you can throw it out there with an advert," he told Parliament's portfolio committee on police.

"So unfortunately, not all the appointments are with panel members that are neutral. You will find the chairperson or any of the [selection] panel members might have interests. There is no instruction that says you must remove yourself from there. If I need somebody to do a specific job in my own office, I'm going to choose that person.

"There is no penalty that comes with it. So it might be a process which is not fair, but I think it is something that is happening throughout the world."

The acting commissioner was being questioned by MPs on allegations of irregular promotions in the police force. His own appointment in October last year, after commissioner Bheki Cele was suspended, raised eyebrows because Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa selected him above more senior staff.

Mkhwanazi was a major-general hastily promoted to the rank of lieutenant-general by Mthethwa. The minister told Parliament he had done this so nobody could question the acting commissioner's authority.

  • Martin - 2012-03-13 15:51

    by staff you mean cadres

      Martin - 2012-03-13 16:07

      to the okes down thumbing me hahaha nice one, i do it too, just for fun lmao

      James - 2012-03-13 17:27

      The real problem SA faces is that too many people are too stupid to realise that they are stupid according to recent study at Cornell U.

      Ian - 2012-03-13 20:25

      My brother, you can be captain, I want my cousin to be sergeant, my mother admin manager, and lets see.......oh, ja, my sister can be in charge of tender procurement so she can award big tenders to my friends.......

  • gennath - 2012-03-13 15:52

    Lol, yes Nhlanhla, everybody does it. Are you being honest, or are you just completely oblivious that the general practice is still frowned upon? That's why OTHER PEOPLE SHUT UP ABOUT IT.

      Francois - 2012-03-13 16:47

      Another cadre that does not read the law? Labour law states that you cannot handpick the people you like, as far as my knowledge goes. Then glad we sorted out the principle of "it is happening all over the world" is justification for our actions.Let us start with this one: "all over the world, people have forgotten about apartheid", can we also fortet about it? Heaven forbid. All over the world people think that Mugabe is a clown and should be removed from office as soon as possible - Lindiwe, please get the army ready. All over the world, if you have a poor education, you don't get job handouts, thus can we stop all programmes to ensure that the uneducated youth (this is a result of SADTU and Mbeki) don't get any jobs or special programmes? Please General, your excuse don't cut it. We want to make this country better and for a leader like you to spill such garbage from his mouth, I guess you should actually join Cele at best ( but without pay) or Selebi or Schaik.

      Francois - 2012-03-13 16:47

      Oops, ja just one last question to the general: What does Cosatu say about this?

  • Bigwolf - 2012-03-13 15:52

    So we still support our friends then the rest later, this is why SAPS is a train wreck and more colonels than any state 10 X the size. problem most are quota's and selected from tea girls to senior managments leaving qualified onlookers amused then applying there sort after trade to private companies, what a Joke a great service has become.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-13 20:56

      Proudly brought to you by the ANC. "Together we can take more"

  • gaeleen - 2012-03-13 15:54

    At last confirmation - never mind the experience, the education, the seniority - YOU MUST BE KNOWN TO BE CHOSEN (PROMOTED) - what a kick in the ass to all the policemen and women who really deserve promotion. No wonder all the experienced people are beinglost to private companies or moving overseas - is South Africa also going to become a lost cause country like those to the north of us????

  • Stephan - 2012-03-13 15:56

    We understand. It's your turn at the trough. No hard feelings. We'll see you in court in a couple of years. Keep the tradition.

      Martin - 2012-03-13 16:02

      hahaha 2 yrs seems to be the norm before playing golf with chop and that other chop, i dont care to know their names,

  • Bernard - 2012-03-13 15:58

    Yep surround yourself with cronies whom will never question your judgement or ability and will never be gunning for your Top Job!! No wonder the country and all its systems are a complete & bloody fiasco. A real laugh a minute.

  • Piet - 2012-03-13 16:07

    Cmon General. Let us not defend what is wrong!

  • Randomhero6661 - 2012-03-13 16:12

    "The better thing to do is to choose the person you want... unless you don't have anybody with the qualifications, then you can throw it out there with an advert," Throw it out "there" for the dogs??? Mr policeman? Choose the words carefully!

      Piet - 2012-03-13 16:18

      Hmmm, and just todat Tuli Madonsela said South Africa need Ethical Leadership!!!

  • Gavin - 2012-03-13 16:15

    Surround yourself with people who always nod their heads and your head will roll.

  • Andrew - 2012-03-13 16:17

    It is called the Buddie system, and it does not matter whether you are qualified or not!

  • Koos - 2012-03-13 16:25

    I've seen some of these promotions. You get promoted at the cost of anything between 25% to 50% of your paycheck to who ever promoted you. This is just one of many things they do to each other. I love to see these people go at each other.

  • Thoka - 2012-03-13 16:29

    why cant you be defferent from the rest of the world. on the other hand you need to select candidates you can trust to do the job not qualified polical agents looking for get rich queck skeem. Just saying not taking sites as i dont know his motives

  • Skuiter - 2012-03-13 16:34

    yes, and picking your nose is also done everywhere, doenst mean you have to you twit.

  • Trevor - 2012-03-13 16:43

    The reality of the ANC, ALL political posts are filled by friends and family members,ALL government tenders go to politician connections/families/friends, Armed forces and Police are a form of job creation and are NO WAY done with the best candidate in short, the ANC turned every part of government into and Employment Agency when it came into power, imagine, they walked in, took over and went from absolutely NOTHING to think they even NOW have the intelligence to manage a country????Why do you think the first call they made was to create new provinces and municipalties, so that the rate payers could FURTHER fund this employment of ANC members and it would not come from State coffers.You think you free in this new South Africa, think again, you are being milked like cow by the ANC and that is the ONLY reason why other races's are still tolerated in this new SA.Cold hard reality and only fools dream of a rainbow nation.......EVERY African state has gone down the same road once they achieved "independance".......

  • Mehluli - 2012-03-13 16:47

    99% of CEO`s in the country are hand picked.People do not like carder deployment but most of them do practice it in their respective workplaces particularly in private sector.100% of people who do not like dictatorship do practice dictatorship at their workplace.100% of people who do not like Mugabe do act like him were they are in power.

  • Tony Field - 2012-03-13 16:57

    Bwahahaha..... Police Academy a la ANC. \r\nC'mon chaps line up and get your trotters in the trough! All you have to do is nod, show that you are properly confused and the job is yours!!!

  • Morne - 2012-03-13 16:58

    "Saying the practice may not be fair, but happened worldwide." Thank you for your honesty!

  • Susan - 2012-03-13 18:07

    Buddy system for sure. I know police who have been waiting 17 years for a promotion. Even their Ha Ha seniors ask them what to do they are so good.

      Jean - 2012-03-15 15:29

      Precisely Susan! It happens in the Defence Force as well. Just amazing that they are unable to feel ashamed. They are not even able to blush.

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2012-03-13 18:09

    Do you think it happens world wide, or do you know it happens. Another self glorified police chief. I take it your family members are ideal for the jobs.

  • pws69 - 2012-03-13 20:00

    Yup, but it becomes a problem when you keep picking useless morons, doesn't it?

      Terrence - 2012-03-13 20:32

      We all knew, but it is all too clear, why disciplined and competent policmen left in droves post 1994, and have had successful careers in the private sector.

  • Yar - 2012-03-13 21:23

    This one is also stupid and arrogant. Please bring in a fresh police chief.

      Koos - 2012-03-13 21:41

      Dude, we ran out of those a while back!

      Yar - 2012-03-13 22:15

      @Koos Too bad. Let's try something radical, like a real cop.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-13 22:52

      You mean a fresh police thief?

  • nkulekweni - 2012-03-14 10:18

    Oh god. This is one of the funniest funniest stories I have ever read. Handpicking people into government positions is the NORM in government. Positions are seldom advertised without there being a person already earmarked for that position or already in that position. In some departments (read the majority) people are brought in wily nily without it being quite clear how those people are qualified to occupy those positions. Advertisements go out sometimes after a person has been in position for three months or more. Some people come in and hang around and positions get created for them. That is the South African government way and believe me...I know. Most employees keep schtum because of fear of reprisals...losing their jobs. When HR people are asked to explain..they say there is nothing they can do. In one department, a group of employees wrote an open letter to the DG of that department complaining about such practices..but of course nothing changed.

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