Police killings will end - Mthethwa

2012-12-13 17:34

Johannesburg - The killing of police will be stopped, Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa vowed on Thursday.

"We shall end police killings. We shall ensure that those who kill police officers are punished," he said in a speech prepared for delivery at an interfaith prayer meeting in Kimberley.

"We are under no illusion that all of us as law-abiding South Africans have a protracted war ahead of us; a war that has been declared by heartless criminals on our men and women in blue."

Mthethwa said those criminals who killed police should be reported and not harboured.

"From the police leadership, management and the entire SAPS family, we are ready to get our hands dirty and deal with these heinous crimes," the minister said.

"We have the will; we have the way and commitment to curb these atrocious killings of police."

Mthethwa stated that the interfaith community was an important partner in the regeneration of moral values and the implementation of government programmes.

The fight against crime required an integrated approach, including addressing moral values.

"The interfaith community teaches values of caring and sharing and promotes upright and moral citizens," said Mthethwa.

"If children from an early age are taught the values articulated by the interfaith community, the likelihood of them growing up to be responsible and caring adults is that much greater."

As such, partnering with the interfaith community not only helped police combat crime but also assisted the implementation of sustainable crime prevention.

Mthethwa said the interfaith community must be actively involved in community policing forums and work with police to deal with crime.

"Crime is a complex challenge and for us to defeat this scourge, we need all the social partners."

It had been noted some senior representatives from interfaith structures had taken sides within the political developments of South Africa, Mthethwa said.

While pastors should contribute to the developmental discussions of South Africa, once they ventured into the political fraternity, having taken certain sides or views, it created a political bias and discourse.

"We need a balanced and fair assessment of the developmental discussion, not factional analysis by interfaith leaders," Mthethwa said.

The minister also railed against men who beat woman.

"What kind of a man beats a woman? As police we are going to hunt some of these weak men who abuse women and we will leave no stone unturned, as we recommit our efforts to ensure safer communities," he said.

Mthethwa warned the youth that the impact of drugs was not limited to individuals in a specific time or place.

"Drugs are both a crime and a cause of crime. Good parenting goes a long way in the fight against drugs and drug abuse," he said.

"As young people today you need earnestly to begin to think about the many young people who are still under the bondage of drugs [and] crime and [are] not in control of their lives."

  • themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-13 17:44

    "The interfaith community teaches values of caring and sharing and promotes upright and moral citizens." This MInister, contradicts what the ANC said a day or so ago to the clerics who expressed concern about the loss of the moral compass under the current bunch of ANC crooks. The ANC gave them the middle finger. Have the ANC changed their minds? Furthermore, you shall ensure an end to the killing of police by punishing killers? I fail to understand how punishing those killers end the killing given that the killing would already have happened? Should you not be preventing the killing of police and citizens too, rather than waiting for killings and punishing? Other than that, Zoomer is likely to give parole to the killer when he feels happy after acquiring yet another fiance or procreating another baby. Back to drawing board Minister!

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-13 18:00

      The ANC says for too much and does far too little. If they stopped talking and start doing, this country would not be in the mess it is in!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-12-13 18:03

      Faith won't do squat, in fact faith has caused most of our wars and suffering. If you are looking for morals, the ANC is not the place to look to.

      Bongeka - 2012-12-13 18:23

      Themba, I thought you were a hypocrit before, but now I can see that you and I are on the same page. Well said my brother, well said. Maybe one day we will win this battle and get rid of all these corrupt opportunists who think we can't see through them.

      BulletProof. - 2012-12-13 18:33

      "We shall ensure that those who kill police officers are punished". Never mind the killed police officers and the thousands of normal common people victims of the crime which goes unpunished wile you and your comrades get a fat check every month for doing nothing! @$#%E$&%*you

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-13 18:59

      Bongeka, Themba can become over-zealous at times:-) but his heart is in the right place..............

      Bongeka - 2012-12-13 19:03

      You can say that again Christelle. He is a good guy but just needs to control his emotions.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-13 19:11

      Bongeka you misread me. Hypocrite? Me? Never!! I believe that I have always stood for what is right. We can agree today, and disagree tomorrow. For me principles are what matters, not personalities. And there are people who I think say the stupidest of things, and I reduce myself to their level because I know arguing with such people using logic is a waste of time. Perhaps that is being "overzealous" christelle, in which case I agree :)

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-13 20:08

      But I ALWAYS enjoy your postings Themba, and not to mention the reaction you create:-) Your passion gives me a smile in some very grim situations.

  • stavious.mamatepa - 2012-12-13 17:46

    Just bring back the death penalty automatically crime will decrease dramatically!

  • goyougoodthing - 2012-12-13 17:53

    How about stopping corrupt, fat, ineffectual and racist police first, then maybe I would care what happens to them. They are, useless.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-13 19:13

      Amazingly how they are required when crime comes knocking at one's door. Many are doing a great job or are those facts too difficult to digest ??

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-13 19:22

      zapadiela, in my case I call upon ADT. Yes, the same guys who were guarding police stations :)

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-13 19:36

      Comment in this manner will be responded to, If more posters were honest here , many would recognize that they have utilized and appreciated the role of the SAPS in RSA.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-13 19:51

      Ok, I confess zapadela. I have "utilised the SAPS and appreciated" their role in giving me a case number which I needed in order to submit a claim to my insurer when my car had been stolen. I have also utilised and appreciated their role in certifying my documents. But that's it :)

  • tedmaseko - 2012-12-13 17:58

    We all act against woman and child abuse. What abt those man wh being abuse by woman. What do we called that is that right?. Research had proven that 30% of ppl comittng suicide it because thy had being abuse etc regardless of sex it doesn't matter..

  • andy.mku.9 - 2012-12-13 18:00

    they die a pauper

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-13 18:37

      While he is being chauffered around in a bullet proof BMW X5 surrounded by 12 heavily armed bodyguards 24/7.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-13 19:30

      zapadiela, did you inaugurate Nathi Mthethwa as the "head of state"? See, sniffing glue and coming to argue is not a very good idea boet. Not to worry though, I am developing a cure for idiocy :)

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-13 19:38

      Some really a lesson is being worldly -wise. All heads of state , even the top brass at the Vatican are transported in this manner.........Living in blinkers on Planet Ignorant is cool .....................for some.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-13 19:46

      Apology, All heads of Ministries , Even a sub-ordinate Premiere is afforded this Luxury. How exactly does Godzille float around ??

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-13 20:29

      zapadela, I am not Godzille's spokesperson. In fact since flushing my ANC membership down the toilet about 8 years ago, I have yet to join another political party. So I can't help you there, sorry my chief :)

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-13 20:32

      Mate, All around the world, top Governmental officials are afforded Security. A Senator in the Fedocracy to a Minister in a republic.

  • haroldcecil - 2012-12-13 18:01

    Oh shame he can speak all this time he did'nt say anything or this person who is speaking is the one the prepared the speach.U wanna be brave now that u going to Mangaung.

  • vmeiring1 - 2012-12-13 18:01

    I'm pretty sure we've heard this commitment a few times over the years. And what about normal murders??

      colin.dovey - 2012-12-13 18:12

      What is a "normal" murder?

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-13 19:20

      Xavier, You know ; When an Life is taken by the devious ....Happens every second of the day ....All around this infested Planet, This is what happens as the Human race takes a strangle hold on Mother Earth.

  • Bongeka - 2012-12-13 18:03

    Baba Mthethwa, talk is cheap. Innocent people have died and they're still dying at the hands of the police. Do you blame them for retaliating? Yes I know that there are thugs out there who have no hearts and killing our boys in blue. But don't just look at that, because that's not entirely the cause of police being killed. It could be a number of factors. Firstly, do not think I'm a sell out or I'm against the ANC government. But if you look back before democracy, crime wasn't this bad. Why??? Because the government of yesterday was too strict. Yes they were wrong by being too strict only on one race. But why didn't you learn from them then apply that same method to everyone? You'll never win this fight if you don't start from the beggining. Firstly, get get your own (government) back yard right then start fighting the criminals that are being brewed by the current state of the government.THANK YOU.

      manqoba.zulu.54 - 2012-12-13 20:27

      @ Bongeka, little knowledge is so dangerous, you are actually making a fool of your self, crime have always been high, its just that it was happening to people who did not mater, the ANC and IFP killings was crime, the third force was crime, the harassment and killing of political leaders was crime against humanity, the difference between now and then is that this Gvnment have transparency, so stop embarrassing yourself

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-13 20:38

      Agreed Zulu, Now for have transparency, Many forget the last regime operated tighter than the proverbial... Interesting fact, Our local paper does a 25 years ago article section. Article title reads,,,,, Main road is Pothole heaven.....The local council are in dispute with the Municipality regarding the Maintenance of.......Seems the same issues are being heard today. This was never Utopia, Not then or now however we are progressing to that goal. Wish we could accelerate the process.....I know how.

  • - 2012-12-13 18:11

    Mthethwa,just shut up

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-12-13 18:26

    to reduce crime Mthethwa....bring back the death penalty on the Rapist,Murderous nd drug dealers....nd police killing end too....

  • Ntutu Dlova - 2012-12-13 18:37

    I wonder what example are you setting for your kids. Before blaming other people, what role are you playing as parents? How proud ur kids would be if they were to read this crap? U must be very proud if this is how you #leadSA

  • ingrid.krebsgermann - 2012-12-13 19:00

    What about those who kill us ordinary citizens?

  • gerrie.koekemoer - 2012-12-13 19:16

    All murderers should be caught and stopped, not only those against our men in blue

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-13 19:33


  • carryn.whittaker - 2012-12-13 19:57

    Nathi the police cannot even control the roads or maintain their vehicle fleet. I feel that you might be reaching just a little here.

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