Police take on protesting farmworkers

2013-01-10 12:19

De Doorns - Police fired rubber bullets to repel hundreds of rock-throwing farmworkers during a strike for higher wages on Thursday, during a second day of violence in the normally calm and picturesque Winelands.

Police and farmworkers fought running battles along the N1 highway, halting traffic and shutting off a number of towns.

Protesters near De Doorns set barricades on fire and threw rocks, stones and debris at police vehicles, prompting officers in riot gear to respond with a volley of rubber bullets and tear gas.

Protesters were dispersed but rapidly re-gathered, in a game of cat and mouse that has rocked Africa's main wine producing region.

Farmworkers in the Western Cape on Wednesday launched a fresh round of industrial action to press for the doubling of their wages.

Thousands of labourers have downed tools after wage negotiations collapsed following last month's work stoppage that left two people dead.

Workers who pick and pack fruit on farms in the region are demanding a wage hike from R69 to R150 a day.

The latest bout of industrial action follows unprecedented work stoppages in the country's key mining industry that turned violent late last year leaving more than 50 people dead.

Of those killed, 34 were shot dead by police in one day.

  • gideon.joubert.50 - 2013-01-10 12:28

    Let me guess. Next the goverment will send someone to help with negotiations.

      paul.c.wadsworth - 2013-01-10 12:46

      Those that throw stones, shouldn't throw grapes!

      bushmedic - 2013-01-10 13:11

      Funny thing is half the people striking aren't even farm workers , they are bussed in from the surrounding areas to cause havoc.

      Frik Vermeulen - 2013-01-10 13:19

      Ag man, you guys are all racistic. We must work together with this ANC to improve labour conditions so people will not revolt such as this!

      Bluecrest - 2013-01-10 13:31

      @Paul +1 +1 +1 !!!

      roboman1 - 2013-01-10 13:32

      I think the ANC climate has changed. Last year, everyone was waiting for Manguang ANC conference, and were nervous about political fall out, now Zuma is back, entrenched, empowered and he will not allow the same chaos. I am not saying it is good or bad, just saying, thats all. Let us wait and see. And as for the inane comment about rascism, go suck eggs boet. I am a farmer, and do not make a huge profit, I drive a second hand car, my wife has a full time job, etc etc, so forget wages doubling

      janice.mcmaster.92 - 2013-01-10 13:32

      FIRE THEM ALL and start fresh with people who WANT work!!!!!!!

      tersia.louw.12 - 2013-01-10 14:10

      Ja, Frik, the people are revolting...

      marc.hugo.75 - 2013-01-10 14:30

      These nitwits have had their turn causing trouble - this, this flange of grape pickers. So, here's how it works. The farmer offers x and they don't think that it is enough. Then they must resign or not pitch up at work. The farmer dictates the price. Those that do the paying, work out the amount and offer it. That's the end of the story. If they withdraw their labour the farmer might be forced to re-think his labour pricing - or mechanise. But that is all it is - peaches have a price, diesel has a price and human labour has a price. There's no romance or sanctity or anything else with labour, as unions and politicians would have us believe. Labour is an entry in the left hand side of the income statement, nothing more. If something as abundant as labour is in SA, I can promise them and everyone else anywhere that the market will always force the price/value of abundance down. Its a constant and undifferentiating force, like gravity.

      Cameron - 2013-01-10 14:43

      FRik, we all know u a oke of colour hiding behind a fake profile....and to the person behind the profile, u my friend, are the racist!

  • bongani.nsele.58 - 2013-01-10 12:29

    69 rand for toiling for the whole day...from sun can't see to sun can't see...its a crying shame in makes you wander what they paid them in 1913

      stirrer.stirrer - 2013-01-10 12:35

      The wage was set by your lovely ANC government. Shows you what they feel for the people. Most farmers pay more than that, plus they provide free housing, schooling, electricity and water, groceries, etc. The "protests" are politically motivated (Ehrenreich) and carried out by a bunch of hooligans, mostly bussed in.

      indianajohn - 2013-01-10 12:49

      You want to see real suffering bongani and simphiwe? Go ahead. Keep destroying things. There will be no jobs at all, nevermind increases. You are biting the hand that feeds you, and you will suffer the consequences. I do not understand why you people don't get this. You are destroying yourselves.

      justin.sly.77 - 2013-01-10 13:16

      This is not a South African thing. Farm workers are always amoungst the lowest paid, even in first world countries where mechanisation has not taken over. Don't make this a SA historical thing. Look anywhere else in the world. I personally believe that SA farmers need to mechanise to avoid this problem. Remember also that farmers profit margins are small, so force them to pay double what they already are, then what is the point of farming in the first place. Farming is a business, not a charity.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2013-01-10 14:13

      I agree R69 is little, but the unions, gov, farmers and representatives ask US (Stellenbosch) to do a study(to my understanding) and the average in pay is R84.(that excluding individual extra benefit agreements between farmer and worker) The maximum payable is R104 and that is only for the top riches farms with automation as part of production lines. As I understood it, it means that if the big/rich farms pays R104 they will survive/draw level, but not be profitable or a good investment. The smaller farms will stop functioning. If so, it means they all sit with a no win situation and need drastic dialog and brains to solve the problem. The question is if all parties will accept the study's findings, that all all ask for or will it be ignored because of........? Maybe I am interpreted it wrong, but it was so clearly explained on TV. Some-one out there that can confirm or explain better????

      bongani.nsele.58 - 2013-01-10 14:25

      some of you europeans think the european is the only human being who knows that when you throw a seed on the ground something is going to sprout out and grow...sheer one asked you to come to Afrika to farm African land...if you think these natives are demanding too much then tally up and go back to the old country and leave African people to die of hunger and ignorance....that is not your is very simple

      Cameron - 2013-01-10 14:44

      I dont see any Europeans commenting on here Bongani, only fellow south africans........

  • darryl.maze1 - 2013-01-10 12:30

    Good work police. If they wanna act like wild holigans then they must be treated like holigans.Its pathetic that these idiots have to always destroy and burn everything in their path, but thats just there mentality. All these unions and especially Tony must pay for all the damages as they are the ones that have caused this.

  • johannekie - 2013-01-10 12:31

    I can never understand the level of stupidity of these people. So they burn down the farms where they work, to get more money... How can they not see that that will never work out for them.

      darryl.maze1 - 2013-01-10 12:36

      We will never understand. Its in there nature to destroy and burn everything they see.

      Brian Dorning - 2013-01-10 12:56

      @simphiwe. desperate people take desperate measures. So if you burn down a farm/business that employs you, how is that entity going to generate income to pay you the higher wages that you demand? Let me give you a clearer example of what i mean so that your 1 brain cell can process it. 'If you have a horse (employer) and you want it to run faster (pay higher wages), how are you going to achieve this by cutting off one or two of its legs (burning farm/business)?

      justin.sly.77 - 2013-01-10 13:20

      @simphiwe, OK, so by your logic, if I am not getting paid enough, let me cripple my employer so that I no longer have a job? Make sense? Pathetic. Remember, less farmers, or mining companies, less jobs, lower economic growth. Lower economic growth, means less jobs, and so the cycle continues. Are people too stupid to understand this?

      Bluecrest - 2013-01-10 13:32

      @D_MAN - It's called DNA...

      simphiwe.charlie.5 - 2013-01-10 13:38

      @justin and the rest - understand this - you can only oppress people for so long, and now they've had enough, and when you own nothing you have nothing to lose. So don't try to tell them they should be happy to be enslaved.

      johannekie - 2013-01-10 15:04

      @simphiwe. You are at the same level as the striking people with that kind of thinking. So good luck with that...

  • difa.mashwama - 2013-01-10 12:32

    its about time that the goverment has to lead /present proper reconciliation in this country if we want to save the future of our children .

      kuno.tschumi.5 - 2013-01-10 13:16

      @difa - to a certain extent i agree with your statement, however don't forget that it was our government (labour department) which set the minimum wages together with the unions. So to call on government to come and sort out the mess is like inviting the robber back into your house.

      difa.mashwama - 2013-01-10 13:29

      @ kuno i do not think the strike is mainly about minimum wages to the workers , is about who(anc

      TSR01 - 2013-01-10 13:39

      The ANC government set the wages at R69 a day, so how is that working out for everyone? Not happy with it anymore, it seems. Looks like the ANC has failed again, and wants to cause trouble by setting COSATU with the task of spreading lies, rumors and unrest.

  • Notrax123 - 2013-01-10 12:32

    Thousands? Agriculture Western Cape reported yesterday that there was an 80% attendance of permanent farm workers. Arrest a cross section of the "strikers" check them for valid proof of being seasonal / permanent farm workers. Jail the instigators, including Tony Ehrenreich and the other bozo's who are telling the "strikers" to be militant.

      stirrer.stirrer - 2013-01-10 12:48

      I once saw a photo of Ehrenreich standing in front of a brick wall with the inscription "Democracy Building Brick by Brick". Eers briek hy mynbou, dan briek hy landbou, en so briek hy die hele land se ekonomie af.

      tersia.louw.12 - 2013-01-10 14:13

      Oh, very well said, Stirrer!

      DuToitCoetzee - 2013-01-10 14:16

      I saw a lot of children, on tv, that are part of these "thousands"????

  • zs5zk - 2013-01-10 12:33

    How many strikers are really Farm Workers and how many Eastern Cape Bussed in ANC demonstrators are there. Pay me R65.00 a Day and I will be there like shot.

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2013-01-10 13:35

      I would also love to know if farmworkers elsewhere in SA get's R150 per day. Does anybody know?

      TSR01 - 2013-01-10 14:14

      kortbroek.duplessis, no, but from what I've read, some provinces pay up to R20 less per day than the Western Cape! Makes you wonder why the ANC negotiated for R69 a day for laborers in the 2010 labor negotiations, only to come back promising R150 a day if they pull a "Marikana Mineworkers" stunt - "give in to our terrorist demands or we will break everything, intimidate workers, etc." We need stronger police control to keep these hooligans from interfering with the country's economy. This is much bigger than just the farmworkers - it affects the farmers, the delivery trucks (they can't get paid for something they can't deliver), the supermarkets (how do they make money with nothing to sell?), and the customers (where is the food on the table going to come from?). Stupid, stupid, stupid farmworkers. Negotiate like a civilized person, and if you can't get the salary you want, go find another job. Last I heard, street cleaning paid R80 a day, and that's without extra benefits (like housing, electricity, water, schooling, basic groceries, etc.) so what is this all really about? The money, or ANC & Cosatu politics?

  • renier.lubbe.7 - 2013-01-10 12:38

    Arrest the lot and find out whom of them are really farm workers. Put those that are not farm workers in jail and it will be the end of the violent strikes.

  • mortonangus - 2013-01-10 12:39

    i cant ever imagine myself, friend and/or family striking, lighting fires and throwing rocks... barbaric like animals.. there are legal and responsible ways to strike.

      simphiwe.charlie.5 - 2013-01-10 12:56

      Try imagining living in a shack on R60/day.

      Brian Dorning - 2013-01-10 13:05

      @simphiwe, how did that individual end up in the shack? Its because his parent(s) had 6 children, obviously couldn't educate them, so they followed in the same footsteps. No education...cycle stats again.

      kuno.tschumi.5 - 2013-01-10 13:20

      @simphiwe - try imagining voting for a different government next time... a government which in fact cares for the people and not only for themselves and the cronies, family friends and corrupt bastards they call associates. Just for once imagine...

  • simphiwe.charlie.5 - 2013-01-10 12:41

    We live in a new SA where the majority rules. If the minority won't share in the wealth of this rich land, I'm affraid the majority will have to force them to.

      KallieHBal - 2013-01-10 12:47

      The minority IS the wealth of this country. We have to share our wealth with you guys who can't create your own.

      Brian Dorning - 2013-01-10 12:47 won't earn your wealth, you'll wait for someone else to work for it and earn it, then you just take it from them forcefully. The difference is that you'll squander it, and the minority would have built up its wealth again. Look at the history of African countries

      tommy.jones.754918 - 2013-01-10 12:51

      A shop has 5 people working in an urban area of roughly 2000 citizens who all consume bread daily. Must the shop hand out the bread for free because they are the minority?.

      Deon - 2013-01-10 12:57

      Like they forced Harmony mine to close down? Now 6000 jobs are gone.

      Notrax123 - 2013-01-10 12:57

      If you want wealth from the white man, take his debt as well. Alternatively work for wealth.

      nick.crossley.395 - 2013-01-10 12:57

      Of a population of 51,000,000 only about 5% pay income tax which 40 % of the goverment's income. The government is already taking the wealthy peoples money but not distributing. I assume you voted ANC, reap what you sow.

      joanne.hart.589 - 2013-01-10 13:08

      No problem. Thank you for indirectly verifying that this isn't about farm wages at all - that's all we really wanted to know.

      marc.ross.965 - 2013-01-10 13:13

      Simphiwe_In the New South Africa the majority has not created any wealth at all. In twenty years they are still dependant on the minority for jobs and grants. It is a culture of having 10 children but no income. Those 10 children will be at the traffic light begging and each will have 10 more children. These 100 people will ask why the minority is not sharing the wealth. The minority will pay their taxes which pays 16year olds to get pregnant year after year. I think the majority must be ashamed of themselves for not being able to create anything without handouts from the minority. It is this embarrasment that is leading to fustration and violence. I really do feel sorry for the majority, the same as I feel sorry for all handicapped people who need someone to look after them for the rest of their lives. In twenty years how many of the majority have created businesses to employ their majority brothers. Very few indeed.But carry on blaming the minority, I dont mind. I would also want someone to blame if I belonged to a majority culture that could do nothing for itself.

      renier.lubbe.7 - 2013-01-10 13:16

      The minority does not own all the wealth of this "rich" land. There is not enough in the hands of the minority to satisfy the majority. Who of the majority are going to "get" what they did not work for? If everything is taken what will those that did not take, get? After all the taking there will be nothing left to eat, what then?

      justin.sly.77 - 2013-01-10 13:28

      By burning down the farms so no-one has anything at all? That is a pathetic way of thinking about things. You sound like a 5 year old child having a tantrum, "if you can't have it then no-one can", absolutely ridiculous. By your logic, everyone goes hungry. This is typical cANCer logic.

      TSR01 - 2013-01-10 13:41

      Simphiwe.charlie.5, everything I own, I worked hard for. I didn't get anything for free. It took years to save and pay off everything I have. So where you want to call me a "minority", let me tell you, I don't care WHAT you want to call me, I worked hard and honestly for what I have, SO JUST YOU BLOODY WELL TRY TAKE ANY OF IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!! I will share with whomever I want, and if I don't want to share with you, tough, GO WORK LIKE I HAD TO!!

      DuToitCoetzee - 2013-01-10 14:31

      simphiwe. Wealth is not in that what you see as face value. That gets depleted in no time. Wealth is in the creator of it. The one who stretch the current while creating the new. You or create for yourself or you position yourself in such a place that you can eat-off/benefit with a creator. The means/medium that a creator use to create with will always gets depleted as well, but a creator will always find new ways/mediums to use. I hope you understand the "wealth" process, as put in my common words and or you create or you position yourself to benefit from the creator. When doing the 2nd you must understand that the creator will always have the lion share. Any different way results to the know failures of Russia, the old East Block countries, Cuba etc.

      morton.christie - 2013-01-10 17:52

      Simphiwe, as Marc said. try some family planing! if you have 10 or 15 children and they in turn have 10 or 15, what have have now? a few hundred dependence that you cant clothe or feed, let alone educate. all you do is swell the ranks of the unemployed and unemployable. then you blame those who have planned correctly for the predicament you find yourself in.

  • lybon1 - 2013-01-10 12:44

    PAY THEM!!!!!.......why is the minority being so stubborn

      Brian Dorning - 2013-01-10 12:49

      The majority set the minimum wage didn't they? So your question should actually be: why did I vote for a party that denies people a decent wage?

      Killbot79 - 2013-01-10 12:51

      Your government set the minimum wage idiot!

      Notrax123 - 2013-01-10 13:01

      The State, that is the Government, also known as cANCer determins the minimum wage. Last time I checked COSATU was part of that circus.

      carla.vittori3 - 2013-01-10 13:02

      @lybon - because there are no farmers who are members of the majority right?

      joanne.hart.589 - 2013-01-10 13:09

      Why do you think that the farmers are not paying the seasonal workers more than minimum wage? Tell us what you think the reason is.

      peter.j.cock - 2013-01-10 13:19

      Have you ever thought that they CAN NOT afford to pay the increase? BASIC ECONOMICS for the stupid ( lybon, simphiwe, bongani etc ) 1) So they increase the wage 2) Production costs increase 3) Selling price increases to cover production costs 4) Sales of finished goods drop due to the product being too expensive 5) The Producer ( farmer ) has too little income to cover his costs 6) Cuts back on production costs - retrenchments 7) Still does not cover costs - now is loosing money 8) CLOSES the business and every body suffers Absolutely idiotic comment "why is the minority being so stubborn"

      Bluecrest - 2013-01-10 13:35

      You another retard who just follows, does & says as told! Shame, you poor poor fake profiled twit!

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2013-01-10 13:37

      Because money doesn't grow on trees lybon, only that much the farmer can pay

      justin.sly.77 - 2013-01-10 13:41

      Sure, why not, even if it means loosing our competitive edge over our competitors in Brazil, Australia and New Zealand. Then no-one will have jobs or farms. Good plan, sounds good. The "minority" has to think about these things so that they can keep food on the their as well as the "majority's" tables. Let me put it another way, if you have R100 a day that you can use to employ a domestic worker and the domestic worker is happy with the pay. Then the domestic worker starts demanding R200 a day, which you cannot afford, so you tell the domestic worker, sorry, I can't afford it. So the domestic worker gets upset and refuses to work. It is then time to clean your own house, while the domestic worker then becomes unemployed. Now instead of the domestic worker taking R100 home per day, she now is taking home R0. If you were the employer of this domestic worker, what would you do? Remember, you just cannot afford R200 a day...What do you do? Try thinking, it doesn't hurt.

      TSR01 - 2013-01-10 13:44

      They are being paid exactly what the majority (THE ANC) promised them in 2010, that R69 a day is enough, and they were happy with it. Now the ANC and COSATU are stirring up trouble again, just like at Marikana, with "wage strikes" (which were largely instigated by Julius Malema last time) being used as an excuse for civil unrest. Half the people "on strike" aren't permanent workers, or even farm workers at all. Tell you what, if they don't like the job, they can go find another one. PAY THEM???? NO, JUST FIRE THEM!!!!! ;)

  • richardnealejohn.underwood - 2013-01-10 12:45

    @ Notrax : Exactly

      Notrax123 - 2013-01-10 12:59

      Looks like cANCer dont like our comments!

  • tina.schilling1 - 2013-01-10 12:54

    Force HAS to be shown. If we have no real, hard, no nonsense show of force, then why bother with the Police and the Army at all...they are merely a fancy handbag to show of with!!....the rioters and looters and criminals will see the entire of SA as their entitlement

  • flysouth - 2013-01-10 13:01

    This is no longer actually about the wages but about a deliberate attempt to politically undermine the government of the W.Cape. The violence we see now, immediately upon the return of the workers to 'work' proves that. Otherwise we would be seeing negotiations between employers and workers representatives since the employers have never refused to negotiate. The ANC and their local political commissars like the one interviewed on TV News wearing the Lenin-style cap, have made this quite clear!

      darryl.maze1 - 2013-01-10 13:23

      I agree. Why are farm workers not striking in the rest of the provinces but only the WC. It is definately politically motivated to make WC ungovernable and because poor little baby Tony wants the WC back.

      abdulbaith.sayegh - 2013-01-10 13:30

      Segregation is the answer to WCape's problem with the ANC and its supporters, so is it for minority groups in this country, because the only way the majority knows is the African way, it is what their King Zuma preach.

  • nico.eksteen.7 - 2013-01-10 13:14

    Use bulldozers to clear the N1 from these villains.

  • richardnealejohn.underwood - 2013-01-10 13:16

    @ Bongani ; They putthemselves there in the field no wanna learn at school , no wanna work at all .Now only want to do the minimum or less during harvest season and then putting the farmer to ransom because of the necessity of having the crop picked.You seem shocked by the wages.....thats farming for you the returns on farming to the farmer are worse 6% of total capital investment that is in perfect weather with perfect workers ( huh to both ). You dont like the sun then keep away from farming. I had a 2 year drought 2 years ago that I am still recovering from I kept my labourers and continued to pay them the prescibed R1500 each on a cops pension without a cent coming off the farm ,What the hell did I live on. If only I'd had R1500 a month. Farming is a package..leave it to the farmers ,their and my staff arent complaining,k only the nogood casual scum are. To boot they dont work more than 8 hours a day otherwise they are being paid extra !

  • siyabonga.khumalo.108 - 2013-01-10 13:18

    The DA always points out the lack of leadership in the anc, now where is the DA's leadership? This morning one of the DA's politicians refused to comment on the wages but only said this is the ANC plan. You know what I think? I think these farmers are funding the DA

      marc.ross.965 - 2013-01-10 13:36

      siyabonga- dont be a silly girl. The DA does not need funding from farmers. The DA does not spend over a BILLION rand on parties, flights and luxury hotel accomodation. So they dont need to be funded. I am sure you dont really understand what a BILLION Rand actually is.Maybe you can ask a nice farmer to explain it to you.

      abdulbaith.sayegh - 2013-01-10 13:40

      I listened to that interview on 702 and let me point out that he also said that he is not in a position to comment on the minimum wage issue and said to the presenter that he should ask those who negotiated this minimum wage to comment on it. I fully agree with him. The DA has no command over the country's security forces, so there's not much that they can do. The ANC promised that they will make the province ungovernable, they failed in the city, so now they have the support of uneducated moronic farm workers, most of them not even originally from those areas. The Western Cape is the only province who rejects the racist ANC and they just cannot deal with it. Democracy the African way!

      lobert.mhlanga - 2013-01-10 14:05

      @Abdulbaith. You are not a reasanable person. Thats all I have to say.

      Zakes Masondo - 2013-01-10 14:11

      I'm with u there Siya

      bongani.nsele.58 - 2013-01-10 14:40

      you are so right Mtungwa the DA man said on 702 that he cares nothing for the toiling farm is not his call he was careful with his words saying very could tell the man is under the DA spell....the greedy so called farmers are the paymasters of this sorry party

      abdulbaith.sayegh - 2013-01-10 15:00

      Based on you and your brothers comments on this issue, you should be the last person to accuse me of not being reasonable lobert.mhlanga

      metsebeth - 2013-01-14 14:13

      Siya - if you follow the news - there is intervention from Cape Town's Department - but there is protocacol that needs to be followed before the wage dispute can be addressed. And while we are busy picking on government parties taking food out of the peoples mouths - how about the ANC and e-tolling... R80 - odd rand to go through tolls? That can feed a single starving person for a few days... Please think about that for a second - Saying Farmers fund DA is like saying Taxi drivers fund the ANC... or do they?

  • siyaz.mcitakali.3 - 2013-01-10 13:24

    Somebody do something please because when this cat and mouse chase blows up , the South African public will be united in using the SAPS as a scapegoat instead of uniting right now and come up with a solution

  • Brian Dorning - 2013-01-10 13:24

    What will they find when they research what SA black farmers are paying their staff? I can guarantee that its less than what the average white farmer pays his staff. So before anyone makes this a racial thing, think twice

      tersia.louw.12 - 2013-01-10 14:23

      A few months ago I listened to SAfm about ill treatment of farm workers. The guest (I forget who it was) ranted and raved about the white farmers. When it was pointed out to him that the vast majority of abuse was perpetrated by black farmers, he said that the race of the farmer was irrelevant.

  • Brian Dorning - 2013-01-10 13:32

    If wages get too high, then employers will seek alternatives to labour ie: mechanization...then we'll see job losses!

  • alwyn.vantonder - 2013-01-10 13:56

    Arrest the ANC idiots that's behind this..

      tersia.louw.12 - 2013-01-10 14:23

      And Tony.

  • alf.hill.1 - 2013-01-10 14:14

    South African employers seem to have created the impression that they only listen to the plight of employees when the strikes are combined with violent behavior and intimidation. Either that, or our police force still needs serious training to deal with striking workers. It is possible that police are prevented from dealing harshly with I'll-disciples strikers because they are not supposed to offend COSATU as a partner. I suspect that one day we are going to have a strike and police reaction that will make Marikana look like a kitchen party. That will be the day when the ANC government believes that it does not need COSATU.

      tersia.louw.12 - 2013-01-10 14:25

      Maybe the unions could even explain to the workers what a strike is and how it should be conducted. How's that for a radical idea?

  • terence.wessels - 2013-01-10 14:20

    To all labour intensive business in SA including mining and agriculture, get machines and retrench them all. These ppl don't want to work. Sure they come hat in hand to start with, and please help me my family have no food ect, and three weeks later they destroy your property because you can not double their salaries? Let's get rid of these savages, they can starve for all I care. Complain about unemployment? Its going to get much worse soon haha....

  • africa.skhephu - 2013-01-10 14:28

    Pay people what they deserve,in this day and age no one lives with 69rand a day.

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  • quinton.devries - 2013-01-10 16:41

    Allot of farmers cannot afford to pay more than R70 or R80. Everyone must remember that the farmer only receives 30c to a liter of wine and has to carry all overheads with such poor profits. The Farm Worker gets free housing, transport and electricity over and above their wage. The strikers are nothing but unemployed people who are being used as government chess pieces.

  • metsebeth - 2013-01-14 13:50

    Ok, I will agree the wage they earn is dismal, but I really don't think it makes sense to burn the very plot of ground that is earning your bread and butter. Its like me asking for and increase and burning down my bosses house - (erm guess what honey, you wont be getting your raise, your fired actually and you are under arrest for destruction of private property.)

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