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Policeman held for murder in Jhb

2011-04-27 08:36

Johannesburg - A 38-year-old sergeant was arrested for allegedly shooting a woman dead at the Kempton Park police station, police said on Wednesday.

The officer was at the station at 20:30 on Tuesday when he apparently heard a loud bang and went outside, Lieutenant Colonel Tshisikhawe Ndou said.

Once outside, he saw that a 44-year-old woman had crashed her car into a parked duty vehicle, said Ndou.

"The suspect subsequently shot the victim dead and he was immediately arrested. It is still unknown what prompted the shooting."

The Independent Complaints Directorate had since taken over the investigation.

The man was expected to appear in the Kempton Park Magistrate's Court soon on a charge of murder.

Comments
  • Chris - 2011-04-27 08:46

    The Cele legacy grows daily. Will this be the 'apartheid' thorn that evetually cripples the ANC?

      golferspal - 2011-04-28 04:01

      file:///C:/Users/User/Desktop/Documents/Solar%20folder/Boer%20Genocide%20%20RURAL%20DEATHS%20names,%20details,%20sources.htm Please read.

  • Caz - 2011-04-27 08:55

    That's Crazy, where do you go for help???? Sure as hell not a police station!!!!

      Dan - 2011-04-28 09:08

      Private security companies unfortunately. No member of the police force is welcome on my property.

  • Jelani-Ng - 2011-04-27 09:00

    Yo, these are the people that has been tasked by the government to protect and serve? Which master do they serve? Cele needs to be replaced by someone who has actual police experience. The police should be a-political and the commissioner (General) should be someone that has worked his or her way through the ranks. Not some politically connected comrade with the need to flex his muscles at the expense of the constitution.

  • Zennie - 2011-04-27 09:04

    This I agree is murder.The driver wasn't provoking anger,not agressive,not instigating protest,ignoring instruction or looking for trouble and resusting arrest.Here the police wasn't busy doing their job and putting themself in danger for the citizens.Remove their fire-arms.

      dante - 2011-04-27 10:00

      where did you get your info?would like to know more myself.

      Grikie - 2011-04-27 13:51

      Why did the woman crash into the police vehicle? Was She alone? What was She trying to do? What triggered the police man to shoot? Was She related to him? However - nothing justifies her killing ! Absolutely nothing.

      p123 - 2011-04-27 19:58

      This is racism clearly, as the victim is white...

      Mapora - 2011-04-28 08:42

      @ P123. I dont see how this could be racially motivated (the police killed a black man recently in Ficksburg - Was that also racially motivated?)

  • John Smith - 2011-04-27 09:04

    People still think the police were worse in apartheid days? If you want to get raped, mugged or murdered just go down to your local police station. Crime is one thing - this is off the hook. If this doesnt stop SA is going to be in big trouble.

      Greegs - 2011-04-27 09:07

      SA in big trouble already! All Saffas condemn ex-pats for leaving and then wanna leave themselves???

      John Smith - 2011-04-27 11:52

      Maybe the public should start adopting the same policy towards criminals and police? Yeah I wonder how they´ll warm to that.

  • BigMoose - 2011-04-27 09:05

    Unbelievable. Truly unbelievable. Protect and Serve? Not anymore. It's "Shoot to Kill." Imagine a goon like this at a crime scene. Shoot the victims and let the suspects escape. At least he's been arrested by his fellow officers.

  • tsunu - 2011-04-27 09:10

    Investigation needs to be carried out quickly and justice needs to be done, the behaviours of law enforcers especially the police is alarming nowadays

  • Sixty - 2011-04-27 09:17

    This is total MADNESS, UNCCEPTABLE BEHAVIOUR from police.Cele must sort out his office, we had enough!!

  • Wayne - 2011-04-27 09:18

    Even in the 80's the cops were more under control. This is anarchy. God help South Africa.

      Dan - 2011-04-28 09:14

      No Wayne. In the 80's the cops were professional and proud. Yes, they acted as pure racists - but under instruction from the then National Party.

  • Marcell - 2011-04-27 09:22

    Now we will only hear one side of the story and as we know a story has 3 sides.

  • Peeved - 2011-04-27 09:26

    iesh!! What a calamity! The more things change the more they stay the same.

  • Max - 2011-04-27 09:34

    There is nothing you can do about the police, as they are a law upon themselves. Grammar, on the other hand has real laws. "A 38-year-old sergeant was arrested for allegedly shooting a woman dead at the Kempton Park police station" So, was he arrested at the Kempton Park station, or was she shot there. As you can see from the quotes text, it is impossible to tell. Whoever writes this stuff, should be fired.

      maseratifitt - 2011-04-27 10:03

      Whoever reads this stuff, should comprehend.

  • Pieter Wolf - 2011-04-27 09:36

    The most corrup , theving , stealing. shooting bunh of cops in the world today. Don't worry about criminals they are wearing the badges.!!!!!!!!

  • gizzy - 2011-04-27 09:37

    "shoot to kill"... Viva Cele viva!!!! He's very quiet isn't he?

      tryanything - 2011-04-27 09:44

      He is on holiday

      Pieter Wolf - 2011-04-27 09:48

      Bush law in reverse.

      gizzy - 2011-04-27 10:04

      Just read he is going to send his cops on refresher courses. How do you refresh something that is vrot?

  • tryanything - 2011-04-27 09:45

    Dont touch me on my duty vehicle

  • Kemptonian - 2011-04-27 09:55

    I travel down monument road quite often. People should stop double parking outside the police station. It slows down traffic and poses an accident risk.

      Dan - 2011-04-28 09:18

      thanks for your stupid contribution.

  • GhengisKhan - 2011-04-27 09:57

    Shoot to kill..........

  • Zetez - 2011-04-27 10:02

    There need to be an urgent Psychological and temper check up on our police. We have to agree that intense and proper training in handling and use of firearm is fundamental. Short term solution, inspect all members for general mental fitness and sobriety at the beggining of the shift prior to issue a firearm. This is outrageous!! Zetez

      Dan - 2011-04-28 09:18

      no, just an IQ test

  • Andrew - 2011-04-27 10:03

    We have to many idiots, who have been given positions in the S.A.P.D. No qualifications and no proper training ! God Help us all !

      Dan - 2011-04-28 09:19

      Hell Andrew, have you seen our cabinet ministers lately?

  • maseratifitt - 2011-04-27 10:05

    I think there are huge deficiencies in selection, training and performance monitoring of the SAPS.

      Dan - 2011-04-28 09:19

      exactly the same applies to the ANC in general

  • James Joubert - 2011-04-27 10:06

    I guess he also just needs training

  • Dickson Mish Bahera - 2011-04-27 10:07

    ...and we thought Beki Cele had said Tatane's killing was going to be the last. Thanks Cele to your 'shoot to kill' motto. The guys are really busy, you'll be pleased with their work.

  • FearoPhobia - 2011-04-27 10:07

    There's always 2 sides to a story but since the driver has been murdered we will never know her side of the story. Kempton Park police station is a disgrace! It's the same station where a woman was raped the other day.

  • braveinternetguy - 2011-04-27 10:08

    This is what happens when the ANC government willy-nilly hands out jobs in the police force...you know..."job creation". I recently spent some time at the Police Academy in Pretoria, and was witness to an official parade. The cadets marched completely out of step, out of uniform, some didn't even bother to do the whole ceremonial 'marching' thing, and simply walked casually in rank, while talking and laughing. I was shocked to my core, and greatly disappointed at the complete lack of discipline and the disregard for authority. What I saw there gave me little hope for the future of the SAPS. That said, the training itself is still of high quality, because most of the trainers are people who have been in the force for two, three decades. People who still have pride and dignity. Unfortunately, they, too, are being replaced. GET RID OF THE ANC GOVERNMENT! VOTE THEM OUT! LET SOUTH AFRICA BEGIN WITH ITS LONG OVERDUE RECOVERY!

  • alicia - 2011-04-27 10:11

    Either Gun happy or completely over stressed por overworked. This is not the actions of a normal person. I feel sorry for both of them, and their families. Something is terribly wrong in this country of ours. We need councelling, we need to help one another, we need to love one another. Too much hate speech is doing so very much damage. And I am talking about all sides. Terrible tragedy. May this poor woman Rest in Peace.

  • Wendy - 2011-04-27 10:14

    WTF?

  • Mudi Tshivhombela - 2011-04-27 10:22

    Why is this?

      MaLemmer - 2011-04-27 10:28

      Mandela's legacy!!

  • obliette - 2011-04-27 10:23

    Another shoot to kill mess, please blame Cele and the rest of the political appointees and not the true policemen

  • derkus - 2011-04-27 10:24

    welcome to Disneyland

  • james strawson - 2011-04-27 10:29

    This poor woman may have been urgently needing help and in her panic crashed! Surely this cop will have soon lame excuse though.....

      nzou - 2011-04-27 20:17

      The story that she crashed her car should be taken with a pinch of salt, Even if she had crashed the car, surely the cop should have seen that wen he bolted out. Besides he should have seen that it was a woman when he came out. And who does he want to fool that a SAPS cop will go to investigate at the sound of a suscipicious shot??? food for thought

  • Fred - 2011-04-27 10:35

    And the 24hour journalists are going to withhold his name because they prefer to protect criminals not name and shame them, another poor article issued to the journalist by the SAPS.

  • Bill - 2011-04-27 10:35

    What the F....Cops going crazy again! …Crash your car and get a bullet from the police..... Cele.....step down, you are not qualified or competent in your job!! But then on the flip side…The day before this happened, we have our very own president Zuma, getting a crowd excited at Maponya Mall in Soweto by singing Awulethu' Mshini Wami (Bring me my Machine Gun). http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/Dont-throw-away-vote-Zuma-20110426 So, if our own President is prescribing this kind of criminal mentality…what the hell do you expect. ….ANC are thugs, from the top to the bottom!

  • Justinpassin - 2011-04-27 10:43

    The police do not have to pass a proficiency test on firearms like a civilian but are merely issued them. It appears that the police are not sufficiently trained in weapons handling as well as the laws relating to guns ownership. They mostly also appear not to have the correct mental aptitude to allow them to carry a firearm.

  • CITIZEN - 2011-04-27 11:10

    THE POLICE CAN GO TO HELL NOW I WILL NOT STOP FOR THEM THIS NOW THE SECOND INCIDENT IN KEMPTONN PARK FIRST THEY RAPE A WOMAN NOW THEY KILL ANOTHER TO THOSE POLICE THAT IS STILL HARD WORKING IM FEELING SORRY FOR YOU BUT TO THOSE WHO DONT KNOW WHAT IS A POLICE MAN OR POLICE WOMAN YOU ARE THERE TO PROTECT AND SHOOT VIOLENT CRIMINALS NOT INNOCENT PEOPLE

      Kevin - 2011-04-27 11:34

      @citizen ...you'll regret that decision because you're liable to end up dead for not stopping.These guy's are totally out of control and trigger happy.

  • Sizwe - 2011-04-27 11:10

    There is more to this story than what meets the eye....

      FearoPhobia - 2011-04-27 11:29

      Probably. But I find it difficult to imagine a situation where an armed cop was required to use deadly force on a 44 year old woman that has just been in an accident.

      Dan - 2011-04-28 09:28

      Sure Sizwe, especially as the woman was in the car and the bastard standing outside with his gun in his hand. I can just imagine the police handbook reading: in case of a woman involved in an accident (bumper bash), first draw your weapon and then shoot her if she is still moving. Maybe it actually reads: At the scene of an accident, the very professional and highly skilled police officer should first try and assist the person(s) involved in the accident. Naaaaah, this is South Africa - the first option sounds more realistic.

  • KomboKitten - 2011-04-27 11:12

    Cele PROMTED THE SHOOTING YOU NUMNUTTS!!!

  • Kevin - 2011-04-27 11:31

    This is an ominous sign people...living in Zambia 35 yrs ago one experienced the same total anarchy,with the police /defense force metting their own sense of justice on the population.Next will be curfews when they realise that they cannot control the people....be warned watch this space!!!

  • Dog!! - 2011-04-27 11:40

    Seeing that the police officer was arrested, was he perhaps white?

      Dan - 2011-04-28 09:31

      No. If he was white, they would have said so or given his name.

  • Jakes - 2011-04-27 12:16

    Makes one scared to even go to a police station for help or lay a complaint.The officer has been arrested, so obviously the shooting was not out of self defence or justified. Where is Cele and sidekick Nathi now??

  • Grant - 2011-04-27 12:19

    Maybe he thought she was a Boer!! :P Besides, there's nothing illegal about a COP's actions, right? (Unless of course the actions are against Whinnie)... What a joke...

  • kaMazibuko - 2011-04-27 12:49

    That's bullshit, complaining about Shoot to kill. SA has a major problem with violent criminals they need to be dealt with. And all this nonsense about apartheid police being better than the general's men is just people playing stupid. The apartheid police were killing people and torturing them without being held accountable for their actions. That's not the case with the general's men. The policeman who killed this woman is in jail now, tatane's killers in jail and the general is sending all crowd control cops on a refresher course. Our police force might not be the best but it's getting there. All the things that happen here with our police also happen in countries like the USA. 

      Grant - 2011-04-27 12:55

      Will also happen in the USA? Waaahaaahaaa! People do stupid things, and people abuse power. Granted - that can and will happen anywhere. But when it takes a man killing a cop with his bare hands to bring to light the fact that 40% of the division's cops are dirty - most with their hands in the hijacking and extortion deals - and all of whom previously reported - it kinda shows where our cops REALLY are - and how much is REALLY done about it. Mark my words - this cop killed someone for having an accident BECAUSE HE BELIEVED HE WAS ENTITLED TO, AND WOULD GET AWAY WITH IT! That, my friend, is the reality of the mindset of our police force today...

      Dog!! - 2011-04-27 13:31

      In the olden days the apartheid cops had to fight terrorism as well and they did a goood job. Can you imagine if they have to do the same today? If they can't handle the domestic issues how would they deal with terrorism issue? I think they are not up to that task and will never be!!

      Dan - 2011-04-28 09:33

      Dream on kaMazibuko

  • Frazzled - 2011-04-27 14:47

    If they could get away with this incident at the very same police station, why not murder? “When I returned to the car, my wife was gone. I thought she had run away.” She allegedly lost consciousness when one of the policemen slammed her head into the dashboard while her husband was inside the police station. There were two policemen in the car with her when her husband was inside the station. She said she came to on a lounge floor in an unfamiliar house. Her next recollection was of a security guard who woke her in a flowerbed at Boston Business College. “He asked me why the police had dropped me off there. I couldn’t give him an answer,” she said. After hours of searching, Olivier said he saw his wife in a traumatised condition walking from the Boston Business College at “exactly 07:20”. http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Cops-in-uniform-gang-raped-me-20091027

  • Frazzled - 2011-04-27 14:49

    If they could get away with this incident at the very same police station, why not murder? “When I returned to the car, my wife was gone. I thought she had run away.” She allegedly lost consciousness when one of the policemen slammed her head into the dashboard while her husband was inside the police station. There were two policemen in the car with her when her husband was inside the station. She said she came to on a lounge floor in an unfamiliar house. Her next recollection was of a security guard who woke her in a flowerbed at Boston Business College. “He asked me why the police had dropped me off there. I couldn’t give him an answer,” she said. After hours of searching, Olivier said he saw his wife in a traumatised condition walking from the Boston Business College at “exactly 07:20”. http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Cops-in-uniform-gang-raped-me-20091027

  • nzou - 2011-04-27 20:13

    This is very sad, considering that it was a woman hence suscipicions of her threatening the cop can not b there, very callous indeed of the cop. It is equally sad as well that on this same platform some of our fellow white compatriots will justify the killing of a black woman because they were noise

  • silencetumi - 2011-04-27 21:36

    This is not a critic, but can anyone differetiat a police man and a criminal nowadays? Definatly not! Our country is turning into disaster.

  • Etienne - 2011-04-27 21:42

    What is the story behind the story, will we ever know??

  • Etienne - 2011-04-27 21:47

    What is the story "behind the story" Will we ever know??

  • ewald - 2011-04-27 23:26

    @p123 - 3 hours ago "This is racism clearly, as the victim is white..." How you know the perpetrator is not white too? You WHITE idiot!

  • LP - 2011-04-28 07:40

    And so kicks in the next phase of the ANC liberation actions. Rape and Shoot to kill any person that just looks at you if you are not one of the group of cadres. This is fast becoming a police state where we will live under curfew and the lawless will roam the streets, hunting the innocent and tearing at their flesh.

  • WhatAJoke - 2011-04-28 08:28

    Yet another victim murdered by criminal that will be protected and praised by his fellow comrades he works with. Police brutality an everyday occurance in this country, black, white, coloured or indian we are all their potential victims!!