Pray for better services, Tutu told

2011-10-05 20:43

Mbombela - Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu should pray for better services instead of praying for the ANC government's downfall, says the ANC in Mpumalanga.

This follows Tutu's Tuesday afternoon press conference in Cape Town where he criticised President Jacob Zuma and the ruling ANC over visa delays that led the Dalai Lama to cancel his trip to South Africa.

The Dalai Lama, a fellow Nobel Prize winner with Tutu, was expected to celebrate the cleric's birthday this weekend.

"His prayers might be so powerful that they can overthrow governments, which we respect him for, but, if that is the case, he should channel those prayers to the good cause of ensuring that the people of South Africa have access to basic and adequate services like water, houses, jobs and others to improve their lives," said provincial ANC spokesperson Paul Mbenyane in a statement on Wednesday.

The ANC-led Mpumalanga provincial government is known for organising prayer days to ask God to bring an end to crime and carnage on the roads.

Mbenyane said the party was disappointed by Tutu's statements, but stressed that the ANC supported freedom of expression.

"We believe that the archbishop had gone way overboard on the Dalai Lama visa issue.

"Our belief is that archbishop should understand and respect the fact that visa application matters are between the affected authorities and those individuals concerned and not for the general public" he said.

On Tuesday, Tutu told journalists that he would pray for the ANC's "demise" in the same way he prayed for the fall of the apartheid government, which had a majority in parliament.

"We will pray as we prayed for the downfall of the apartheid government, we will pray for the downfall of the government that misrepresents us... You are disgraceful.

"You have... a huge majority - that is nothing. Watch out ANC government watch out," warned Tutu.

Tutu also added that: "Our government is worse than the apartheid government, because at least you were expecting it from the apartheid government."

Mbenyane said the statements were regrettable.

"It is unfortunate... It is the same bishop who once said President Zuma cannot be his president whilst passing some unfair judgements on him, which we believe the holy book [which we think the Archbishop reads from] prohibits all of us from doing," said Mbenyane.

  • ChumScrubber - 2011-10-05 21:08

    One way to get service delivery would be to get rid of the ANC. As a resident of Mpumalanga, I can quite clearly see their only strategy to address issues is to pray. Actually dealing with issues has not yet occurred to these geniuses, hence sky high crime, p poor service delivery, mega corruption. What an oxymoron of a statement ANC!

      Bokvirsport - 2011-10-07 12:07

      Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from bad service and the evil ANC. For Thine is the Kingdom, and the Power, and the Glory, for ever and ever. Amen.

  • Rev. H-Cubed - 2011-10-05 21:08

    It's the same thing at the moment. Better service will be a direct consequence of the downfall of the ANC.

  • marco - 2011-10-05 21:14

    You know people from the ANC says that South Africa will never have a Zimbabwe type situation in South Africa like what Mugabe has brought to his country,but looking at this visa thing with the Dalai Lama and Tutu's subsequent reaction to it all leaves me to believe that the ANC will eventually do much worse to South Africa once they finnished with it than Mugabe and other tyrants on the continent has ever done-much,much worse you wait and see.South Africa is already like other African countries in that there is only one ruling form of government for 17 years now-the ANC-in other African countries like Zim it's 30 years for Mugabe for example.Other African countries has had its evil dictators like Idi Amin Dada,Robert Mugabe,Mobutu of Congo,Gaddafi,Jean Bedel Bokassa from CAR,General Sani Abacha of Nigeria to name but a few.The ANC pretends not to be like this at all and it hides very well behind the Apartheid struggle story,Nelson Mandela's image in the world etc,but behind that cloak of respectability lies very evil intent all the way through.Greed,lust for power and control over people and what money can do for them is the ANC's main reason for living and sole objective for being in power and the sooner it will be completely expose by onlookers-not South Africans so much but by foreign governments or the media or somebody else of importance the better it be for the rest of us

  • letsee - 2011-10-05 21:22

    The ANC misses the point that they don't tell Tutu what to pray for. The ANC must put its tail between their legs and accept that they are a party without international standing and sold their soul to China to get financial support to replace that lost from Gaddafi.

  • aman - 2011-10-05 21:26

    Nah, option 1 is better and he can conduct his own services if necessary.

  • ShadowfaxUK - 2011-10-05 21:27

    I thought praying for the ANC's downfall and praying for better services was the same thing?

  • Jillian - 2011-10-05 21:32

    Oh man! Pray for better services? Stop stealing money and PAY for better services. What a numpty.

  • grenville - 2011-10-05 21:34

    The ANC Gov have been so quite all of sudden Tutu says words and they react, bunch of losers, oh! he did not mean to says this about the ANC WAKE UP ANC your rating are zero the masses will react very soon plunder our wonderfull country into the ground enrich your family forget about the MASSES all they want is a roof over there heads and basic services.

  • Iron John - 2011-10-05 21:36

    Well, precisely, because only when Jesus DOES come again, will services (and justice, and education, and healthcare, and safety and security, and corruptions, and and and) be fixed. Whether that is as a result of Jesus' presence or whether it coincides with the ANC being recalled from government, I simply cannot say.

      Cromag - 2011-10-06 09:04

      except when Jesus comes they will deny him a visa!

  • Marius Rossouw - 2011-10-05 21:41

    Tutu, You are a bloody joke. Now, after years of the poorest service delivery thinkable you want to pray for better services. Because now it affects you. Well, I pray that you and other fat cats like you will be taxed out of lively hood. Amen.

      Wezza - 2011-10-05 22:00

      dude, are you smoking pot?

      Peter Krummeck - 2011-10-06 01:08

      It seems to me that you read the article from the full-stop backwards - maybe that's just the way your mind works?

      Adrian - 2011-10-06 08:13

      We should all pray for better services and an end to crime because the ANC will never deliver it. The Arch has contributed hugely to bringing about meaningful change in this country and to achieving harmony and reconciliation between its peoples. He deserves a comfortable old age and the satisfaction of successful and meaningful life rather than the disappointment and sadness over what has become of the once proud ANC. Arch, you have my admiration and a wish for a happy birthday and many more.

      CalamitySA - 2011-10-06 15:51

      Marius Jy het die kat aan die gat. Tutu wil bid dat die ANC tot niet gaan. Dis die Maputo "ANC spokesperson Paul Mbenyane" wat se Tutu moet liewer bid vir beter dienslewering. Lees weer!!

  • Dave - 2011-10-05 21:45

    the bishop complains about the ANC's ability to deliver and this ninkompoop comes out with this. I wonder if they know the meaning of the word accountability-with the collective IQ of a dung beetle - i think not!

      CalamitySA - 2011-10-06 15:52

      Refer to dr James Watson's findings.

  • MagdaKus - 2011-10-05 21:57

    I hope tht those people in the ANC who are decent will make their voices heard- because we're hearing too much from those who are not paricularly decent, and not terribly bright, and who would benefit from looking up "responsibility" and "accountability" in a dictionary; if they're not prepared to lisen to Des, I'd say even if Jesus came they'd be too arrogant to listen... (those who are in the public eye- I am not bashing the ones we do not hear).

      Bokvirsport - 2011-10-06 15:14

      No decent people in the ANC....sorry

  • Henry Oosthuizen - 2011-10-05 22:09

    The Arch shoudn't have to pray for better services you fools, that's what you are getting paid to do: deliver! But you just feed of the system and suck its money fountain dry you leeches!

  • Sandy - 2011-10-05 22:55


  • watyasay - 2011-10-05 23:13

    why is the ANC telling Tutu he should pray for "the good cause of ensuring that the people of South Africa have access to basic and adequate services like water, houses, jobs and others to improve their lives" when that is the responsibilty if the ANC themselves> They should be doingn that already

  • Chabi - 2011-10-05 23:26

    I have always thought Old Brown Sherry gets stronger with Old Age, Pray for your Kung Fu China's Superman flight from Tibet to OR, cause walking won't get him on time for the tea party.

  • Peter Krummeck - 2011-10-06 00:59

    Dear Paul Mbeyani: successful prayers for the downfall of the ANC will automatically result in better service delivery. But praying for the ANC to deliver is like asking God to provide a blizzard in Timbuktu - not that God couldn't do it: it just requires one heck of a leap in faith on our part.

  • Craig Louw - 2011-10-06 04:46

    This mbenyane character is an arrogant one. Why should the arch be praying for services? Services your party are mandated to deliver? You bunch heathens dare get snarky with someone who bares the same esteem as madiba? May god sort you out mr mbanyane and may it suck to be you.

  • Kent - 2011-10-06 08:28

    @ Paul Mbenyane - go and get DSTV and watch international news - hope you have the brain to follow

  • letsee - 2011-10-06 09:03

    There are no prayers that can help the lack of capacity in the ANC.

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  • Levett - 2011-10-06 10:35

    Welcome to the Afrikaner prayer group TUTU

  • Seven9 - 2011-10-06 10:50

    Without the ANC better services will be the norm!

  • bhoyie - 2011-10-06 12:22

    I am sure the Bishop is entitled to express his frustration. It would sad for him to think that he can unseat the Government. Every person is subject to every country's right of admission and pertinent conditions. The Bishop must be care lest he is found speaking against what God has instituted. Romans 13:1-4

  • Darwinian - 2011-10-06 12:24

    "The ANC-led Mpumalanga provincial government is known for organising prayer days to ask God to bring an end to crime and carnage on the roads" SO, how is that working out for you, since Mpu roads are full of carnage? "You define zero or 0.0001% as a “high success rate” when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God. "

  • CalamitySA - 2011-10-06 15:47

    Paul Mbenyane - Please accept that praying for better services will not help if it is not done! The prayer must also go to the people who is responsible on ground level. They have also lost their trust in government. The visa issue is a application example of the ANC's misuse of power. You can not pray for people who are corrupt and condones crime!! God will not tolerate the dishonest.

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