Premier: North West needs name change

2013-05-23 14:22

Johannesburg - North West province needs a name change, Premier Thandi Modise said on Thursday.

Speaking in the provincial legislature in Mmabatho on her office's budget and policy, Modise said the province should no longer simply be a direction on a map.

"We cannot be a 'direction' or a position on the compass when we have [had the] calibre of leaders from our province like Malome Moses Kotane," she said.

"We celebrate this month in his name as a clear acknowledgement of how he continues to live among us through his teachings and practices, and take pride to be associated with a man of his calibre."

She said Kotane's wisdom and love for his people was inspiring, and encouraged the youth to learn more about him and other struggle heroes.

Public consultations would take place over the name change, Modise said.

  • Tshepo G. Kutumela - 2013-05-23 14:27

    here we go again...why don't you focus more on issues of service delivery, and less on what the province is called #SMH!!!

      procold2 - 2013-05-23 14:34

      exactly, maybe she is not getting her share so now needs to create a reason so they can spend at will with nothing getting done, it will be ten years and 1 billion above budget before anyone does anything about it.

      luckyluke - 2013-05-23 14:44

      very offensive NW, must be cos of apartheid?

      Mafa Smith - 2013-05-23 14:53

      god be with us,amen

      Dmitri Dumas - 2013-05-23 14:59

      FFS, there goes my tax money again...Any chance of fixing the potholes and street lights while you are grabbing my taxes???

      Alan Gernet - 2013-05-23 15:00

      haibo - How about Gupteng?

      Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-23 15:06

      The Emirate of Guptastan :)

      Frans Van Der Merwe - 2013-05-23 15:12

      She is right.. North West is a stupid name, just the name not the place. Yes there is a lot of admin and costs (and confusion) involve - but so is every project. This could be an excellent opportunity for nation building - get everyone involve dreaming up a new name - maybe even a Lekker Afrikaanse name. I deps " MAMPOER HOER PROVINSIE!"

      mapepaki - 2013-05-23 15:12

      Ja man North west must be an apartheid name but hey what about South East? Ding bat hasn't got enough to do.

      Ann Murray - 2013-05-23 15:16

      Apart from that - what the flaming hell is it going to cost to re-do maps and all those things? This government keeps deflecting from REAL issues to focus on microcosminc issues! They are inept and totally useless!

      Oscar Blade - 2013-05-23 15:20

      Do these people not have jobs??? Get a life dammit, so let me see if I get this right: you as premier have a list of duties to perform and the top of your priority list is to...change name of the province? How is that going to benefit the people? Or is it just another excuse to award the road sign tenure to a buddy? I'm with Tshepo #SMH

      Godfrey Welman - 2013-05-23 16:23

      This and all other "statements" from Govt are all attempts to move the focus from Gutagate.

      Leroy Reynolds - 2013-05-23 16:34

      how many people on this site even know how to read a compass or a GPS coord?

      merkwaardig - 2013-05-23 16:41

      Isn't SoWeTo also just a direction? Shall we change that?

      Henk Van Biljon - 2013-05-23 17:33

      She can call it whatever tickles her fancy. Those of us who see things in perspective know that this is just a ploy to divert attention from the embarrassing failure the country has become with mamparras like these at the helm.

      Henk Van Biljon - 2013-05-23 17:40

      Wasn't it this esteemed "leader" who also changed the name of Mafekeng to Mahikeng? If all else fails, change a name!!

      Karl Reed - 2013-05-23 18:51


      Robert Sidney - 2013-05-24 09:09

      Please, not another African name. I have nothing against African names, but we shouldn't ONLY have African names. What about Frans Van Der Merwe province? wink wink nudge nudge

  • Makhosonke Mqikela - 2013-05-23 14:28

    Name changes do not feed a life. Come on is this the only thiing thrANC government is good at?

      Kortbroek Du Plessis - 2013-05-23 14:37

      no, wasting tax payers money and talking cr@p are the other things they are very good at too

      Ester Venter - 2013-05-23 15:48

      Very insightful comment Makhosonke. Well said.

      Fox - 2013-05-23 16:01

      Kolobe.. North West Province was not the Afrikaner name for the province. It was created by the ANC Government in 1994.It used to be part of Transvaal and was referred to as Wes Transvaal. Wake up and smell the roses

      Thabo - 2013-05-23 16:03

      Names carry huge identity and significance. Ask Afrikanners to change, Afrikanner names and u will see.

      Derek Smith - 2013-05-23 16:06

      Uhm..Kolobe(pig)...The cANCer named it North West...

      Nadia Graf - 2013-05-23 17:15

      I agree. Name should be changed to Hellhole.

      Henk Van Biljon - 2013-05-23 17:39

      Hey Thabo, may I remind you that your ANC has been changing ALL the names since they took over. Afrikaners only complained about he money involved, and of course the fact that the changes was mostly made to show the whites who is boss. We got used to your brainless efforts to hide your inadequacy. We just wish you could grow brains as well.

  • Stephan Steenkamp - 2013-05-23 14:29

    Jip, nothing else to do!!!! Spend it, spend the cash!!!!

      Lucky Luke - 2013-05-23 15:18

      everything alse must be running at optimum in the NW, nothing better to do!

      sagebrush.bush - 2013-05-23 15:24

      Watch them name it after a cadre.

  • Mike - 2013-05-23 14:33

    Not again... If they do here is my suggestion: Call it the Murderous Bankrupt Province - Murderous in memory of Marikana, and Bankrupt due to the great financial management of the African National Corruption.

  • Michael Peters - 2013-05-23 14:33

    Nothing more important on the agenda?

  • Quintin Michael Rossi - 2013-05-23 14:38

    Stop wasting tax payers money!!!!!!

  • MJS1234 - 2013-05-23 14:39

    Oh yes, because that is the real problem with the province, its name! Useless beyond belief!

  • Musa KamaShobane - 2013-05-23 14:39

    Fix the damn potholes and build houses for the poor, that is critical for North West at present. Get your priorities right madam Premier, your agenda is totally misdirected.

      Theo Schoeman - 2013-05-23 14:45

      Amen !

  • Gilbert Nkulisa - 2013-05-23 14:42

    Ohhhhh Modimo waka aish pls come on !! We need life not that! Can we go outside look all around rural areas all places and check what most is necessary to our lifes mxm!! Aish you people you just sit on the chairs nd thinking about food tables only mxm!

      Stephan Ludik - 2013-05-24 08:36

      But?! Isn't the province's name you are living ing more important than having food on the table.. having a table for that matter!!! Now... I don't understand... I thought people living in rural areas wanted that name changes. This is really ridiculous!!!

  • Jimmy James - 2013-05-23 14:42

    Surely the ANC should have a name change for what it stands for.

  • Mike Muir - 2013-05-23 14:45

    Change the name to "Going South" that's the actual direction the province is going. But this is idiotic, any name change should be neutral and not promote any political party.

  • Reinhardt Rossouw - 2013-05-23 14:45

    No, it's quick!! Don't worry about the fact that we have to yet again change all the maps, all the signage along the roads, all the letterheads, all the numberplates on all the cars, etc etc etc. Stop the bull and get to the real issues!!!!

  • Andrew Selous - 2013-05-23 14:46

    do these idiots just wake in the morning and have brainfarts.these things cost millions that can be spent on service fn deliveryyyyyy!your brain has went 'south'

  • Gaudi-amla Mosepele - 2013-05-23 14:48

    I totally agree north-west is just directions nje nothing significant. We have produced to many influential political icons, mayb we can name our province aftr sol platjie. We shud also rename south africa, called it republic of Mandela just to piss the kleinfontein residents

      Andrew Selous - 2013-05-23 14:58

      i think you'll piss madiba off instead.

      Juanroux Stiffler Greyling - 2013-05-23 17:09

      Renaming south africa to The republic of Mandela will be a slap in Mandela's face........

      Martin De Lange - 2013-06-20 00:14

      Instead of throwing money down the drain, why not spend it on something useful. Like education for instance!

  • Sindy Bartlett - 2013-05-23 14:53

    South Africa is also a 'direction' or a position on the compass.

      Andrew Selous - 2013-05-23 14:56

      do not remind her!!!!!!she will want that changed too!

      Jimmy Don - 2013-05-23 14:58

      Well spotted Cindy , but ssshh, don't give them any new ideas..

      Vuyo Dyantyi - 2013-05-23 15:07

      What r this people smokin ?

      Maluleke Japhta Japhta - 2013-05-23 15:44

      I agree with you 101%.

      Neil Alan White - 2013-05-23 16:12

      eastern cape, northern provice, northern cape, western cape etc etc. change em all. starve the masses then maybe they wont be able to vote ANC

  • Hendrik Botha - 2013-05-23 14:53

    In ancient years the inland area of Southern Africa was called Monomotapa, no idea what it means, there you go.

      Mike Bundy - 2013-05-23 17:26

      It means Prince of the Conquered Land

  • Ofentse Thole - 2013-05-23 14:53

    Changing names still wont make you competent Mrs Modise Mev. Premiere

  • Ken Amery - 2013-05-23 14:54


  • Shawon Tiltman - 2013-05-23 14:57

    and the brain farts keep rolling in......get serious name change...come on guy's people are suffering every day sort out the roads schools hospitals housing. . surly u can't be so dumb....?

  • Andries Coetzer - 2013-05-23 14:58

    vermorsing van tyd

  • Willie Uys - 2013-05-23 14:59

    I think it needs a change of government rather than a name change!!! Concentrate on the issues not on the manicuring of the political gardens!!

  • Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-23 15:02

    May I suggest a name - The Emirate of Guptastan

      Nettie Potgieter - 2013-05-23 15:07

      Haha most likly that will be the new name for KZN.

  • Keabetswe Lobatse - 2013-05-23 15:03

    smh# these ppl might as well tell us 2 change our names as well since they are soo into change nxa.

      Ester Venter - 2013-05-23 15:53

      LOL!! I probably wont be able to pick my own new name hey?

  • Danny Baromen - 2013-05-23 15:04

    Uhm, whether its called north west or duikerfontein, the problem still remains that the cANCer generally ignores the province and the people in it... look after the people first and then maybe, you can change the name...

  • nkululeko.zulu.5 - 2013-05-23 15:05

    If i were you, i would change the lives of the poor first.... Is that dificult to ask?

  • abrammothibedi.abram - 2013-05-23 15:08

    Bophutatswana i wanna come back home

  • Herman Myburgh - 2013-05-23 15:09

    Wasn't it the ANC that formed the province and called it "North-West"???

  • Vannessa Jooste - 2013-05-23 15:09

    Great. Just what we need - another way to misappropriate our tax money, while our education system crumbles and infrastructure diminishes. Who has time to actually sit and think about nonsense like this?! Good grief, can you not actually hear the idiocy of your words, madam?

  • Bertus Pretorius - 2013-05-23 15:10

    How, and after so many years of democracy, are tax payers' money still being wasted like this? Does she really think it will be just a quick document change? This is just a prime example how the anc simply sees the tax payers' money as a bottomless cookie jar to take and waste from. Phone any bloody municipality in North west and complain about the roads riddled with potholes and the excuse of no money is thrown around. If there are no money then how in all that's good's name do you propose the viability of a name change?

  • Annelene Meterki Minnie - 2013-05-23 15:11

    whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy....How offensive can a direction be????

  • malebogo.ivan - 2013-05-23 15:13

    North west province is one of the poorest province in the country, how about they focus on the well being of the province they must tackle poverty, infrastructure, and education leave the name changing.

  • Ben - 2013-05-23 15:14

    Morons that cant do their jobs think up mundane things just to look as if they're doing something. Same old story...

  • Edward Ri Coula Joy - 2013-05-23 15:19

    Jah Change that name to Khathu Province

  • Edward Ri Coula Joy - 2013-05-23 15:20

    Jah call it Marikana Province or tjyfghru province

  • Etienne Mouton - 2013-05-23 15:20

    The ANC-led North-West Province 1)nearly missed the Manguang conference owing to infighting and political murders 2)'gave away' a Mayoral seat to the opposition 3) became infamous over the Marikana massacre 4) has serious infrastructural/service delivery shortfalls, all this while the country has serious economic/job creation challenges. Yet, the best this brain-challenged cadre can up with (after 19-years of democracy), is to change the name of the province? She must rather voetsak into the sunset!

  • Willem de Haan - 2013-05-23 15:21

    While you're at it - why not change all and everything in this place with one fell swoop to what you really want it to be: Mandelastan? Then the rest is simple: All the provinces become Mandelastan section 1, 2 3 and so on. The Municipalities become Mandelastan section 1 subsection 1, 2 and so on. The cities, towns and villages become Mandela city no 1, 2 and so on. The streets become 1st, 2nd Mandela street and 1st, 2nd Mandela Drive and 1st 2nd Mandela avenue, and so on. An address would then simply be something like this: no 10, 3rd Mandela Drive, Mandela Village no 105, Mandela subsection 16, Mandela section 4, Mandelastan. All of which can be simplified to: 10, 3MD, MV105,16,4,M. Think of all the money and heartache that can be saved this way! Away all names that offend some section of the community such as Verwoerd, Sobukwe, Smith, Zille, etc etc. Massive savings on signage! And no statues would be necessary any more - the whole country is a monument! And when it all has to be changed to Mbeki - no problem, the M is there already! O K, Zuma could be a problem but that would be far in the future - let the next generation worry about it. (No supporters, I take it?)

      Jeremy Richard Schaffner - 2013-05-23 15:26

      I believe the favourite word among the total transformation crowd is 'Azania'.

      Mnyama White - 2013-05-23 19:21, that is funny!!

  • Jeremy Richard Schaffner - 2013-05-23 15:23

    If it is about a direction on a map, you will need to change Mpumalanga (east or towards the rising sun)as well. Maybe you should call it Eshonalanga if you are going to insist on wasting money instead of addressing the real issues out rthere.

  • Norman Motlhabani - 2013-05-23 15:24

    Now this is madness. Have you ever driven in Mafikeng town? Potholes have turned into little dams. You guys are going too far now. Not long ago there was a village in North West “Mathateng” declared as the poorest village in SA. Please wake up!!!

  • Barry Moyle - 2013-05-23 15:25

    Why not stop changing the names of towns, streets and government buildings and public spaces and rename the country? Most people internationally think South Africa is everything below the equator in Africa, a region and not a country. A geographic description is not a good idea for a name of a place.

      Martin De Lange - 2013-06-20 00:16

      South Africa is a BRAND - don't touch a BRAND name. That is financial suicide! Ask any businessman! Geez!

  • Lindy Jeffery - 2013-05-23 15:29

    More money wasted.....dont we just LOVE to throw money away!!

  • Christina Setloboko - 2013-05-23 15:29

    anc obsessed with name changing, how about changing the lives of people first, service delivery etc etc. then you can think about name changing, is it really necessary though to change names. first things first please...

      Martin De Lange - 2013-06-20 00:17

      Exactly. Pissing money away instead of doing something useful with it!

  • Charles Booyzen - 2013-05-23 15:30

    Just call it Left upper side mess? why don't you rather do yours job and resolve the issues in the province (service delivery ETC,)Changing the name wont resolve the problems .....Idiots.

  • Ashwin Nehal - 2013-05-23 15:31


  • Frans Jacobs - 2013-05-23 15:33

    Why are my posts being deleted news24?

      Chibuli - 2013-05-23 15:57

      Juda, what your language!

      Michael Wilson - 2013-05-23 16:18

      Haha...and here i remember Juda wailing on just the other day about how his comments were being deleted. In fact his entire profile was blocked. I believe that the reasons he provided were pretty much along the lines of 'racist whites at N24'. So it's racist whites all the way, damned if you do, damned if you don't. Pretty hilarious.

      Juanroux Stiffler Greyling - 2013-05-23 17:19

      @ Juda Juda :a racist cannot call someone else a racist. that's like an atheist quoting the bible....

  • Leslie Erasmus - 2013-05-23 15:34

    Thandi,since u want to waste money why not buy a new bigger car take an overseas trip or buy a new hat and let the people continue suffering bad anc service delivery, just a thought...

  • Maluleke Japhta Japhta - 2013-05-23 15:34

    Premier Modise dont you have something better to do for the Poor Province? If you dnt know what to do just resign and give new blood an opportunity to work for North West Province. I dnt blame you Age count.

  • Victor Olifant - 2013-05-23 15:38

    Useless Name

  • Sefako Mokgalaka - 2013-05-23 15:45

    A Setswana name will do. Agree 100%

      Zman Zee - 2013-05-23 16:13

      north west is not exclusively for Setswana speaking ppl, this is not Bophutatswana.

      Sefako Mokgalaka - 2013-05-23 17:24

      Majority are Setswana speaking.

  • Thebe Vincent Mothibedi - 2013-05-23 15:45

    Why change it now? All along you were satisfied with the name I think you minister want to leave a legacy as a woman who gave north-west a name change. Come on now get serious and onto realistic matters, your province's roads are riddled with pot holes, poor service delivery, and so much more and all you can think about is a name change as top of your agenda. Our tax money is really spent on unnecessary things while it can be used for far much better things to improve the lives of our rural people. After all isn't the ANC that came with the direction as the name of our beloved province? Twenty years into democracy you want to change it, come on madam you can do much better than that.

  • Thebe Vincent Mothibedi - 2013-05-23 15:45

    Why change it now? All along you were satisfied with the name I think you minister want to leave a legacy as a woman who gave north-west a name change. Come on now get serious and onto realistic matters, your province's roads are riddled with pot holes, poor service delivery, and so much more and all you can think about is a name change as top of your agenda. Our tax money is really spent on unnecessary things while it can be used for far much better things to improve the lives of our rural people. After all isn't the ANC that came with the direction as the name of our beloved province? Twenty years into democracy you want to change it, come on madam you can do much better than that.

      Mello Maase - 2013-05-23 15:58

      what she is doing is much better than what u r saying