Presidency: Some in media denialist

2013-03-08 14:15

Johannesburg - Some media groups are using "denialist reporting" to any reference about the impact of apartheid colonialism on South African society, the presidency said on Friday.

This was the case with reporting of President Jacob Zuma's speech to the National House of Traditional Leaders in Cape Town on Thursday, spokesperson Mac Maharaj said in a statement.

"Such denialist (sic) reporting of what the president said infringes on the public's right to information," he said.

"The tendency to over-react to references to the impact of decades of apartheid does the country a disservice."

‘Knee-jerk reactions’

Such reporting had happened before, Maharaj said.

"The presidency is concerned about the knee-jerk and ultra-sensitive reaction of some sections of the media..."

Maharaj said that among other things, Zuma had said in his address that South Africa had emerged from a highly violent society, where any demand by the oppressed was met with violence.

"Some newspaper houses have run headlines taking the angle that the president blamed apartheid," said Maharaj.

"They omitted to give their readers an opportunity to read what exactly the president said about the need to rebuild our communities and create a more caring society."

In describing the impact of apartheid in his address, Zuma had said: "These incidents remind us that we come from an immensely violent culture. We survived a cruel system of governance...

"The apartheid system could only be sustained through violence, and violence became entrenched."

‘Most South Africans peaceful people’

Further, that when people had correctly demanded freedom and equality, the response was violence, murder and mayhem.

"For that reason, our struggle became deliberately a struggle to eliminate all forms of violence... We cannot turn our backs on that legacy of dignified, principled struggle for peace... That is why South Africans are outraged at the incidents of violence.

"However, in expressing our disgust, we should not lose sight of the fact that the overwhelming majority of the 52 million South Africans are peaceful, caring, law-abiding citizens," the president said.

Maharaj said Zuma had emphasised that the struggle sought to reverse the legacy of violence.

"Apartheid had a profound impact on our country. It will take years to reverse the legacy...." he said.

"To be able to do so, we should all accept the impact of the past, and work to reverse it and also to prevent its recurrence."

  • PaulDeLaRey - 2013-03-08 14:20

    And some politicians are in a state of denial when it comes to Zuma's pathetic leadership, the corrupt anc and the killing of whites and farmers in the country. Go take a long walk off a short pier you idiot maharaj.

      aniken.vader.31 - 2013-03-08 17:35

      Can SOMEONE explain to me a mere mortal what he was trying to say? To me it sounded like he was saying that again zumer was misquoted by malicious media. Broken record comes to mind.

      Erich Goosen - 2013-03-09 07:47

      Watching ENuus last night at 7pm, the newsreader announced that the following insert is not to be watched by sensitive viewers and then proceeded with a speech by Zumies. It was quite funny actually.

  • Ian Paxton - 2013-03-08 14:21

    after all this time that's the best you got ......................

  • Neil Cronje - 2013-03-08 14:22

    Oh Mac Maharaj, shut your pie hole and rather worry about the corruption charges against you.

  • jeremy thorpe - 2013-03-08 14:24

    When in doubt, blame the media! Yes, what Zuma says about apartheid is true - but here's a media newsflash...apartheid effectively ended more than 20 years ago. A successful government would have moved on and done enough good that the past was the past. Only a government as unsuccessful as the current ANC needs to drag out apartheid again and again and blame it for its own incompetence!

      arthur.tarr.3 - 2013-03-08 14:32

      Thank YOU!!!!!!

      Chrono Man - 2013-03-08 14:36

      Agreed Mr Thorpe. Billions that could have been used to erase and counteracts the effects of apartheid have been stolen, squandered and lost. Depending on what the ANC does now, children in future will probably learn in History class that apartheid was bad but that the ANC was so corrupt and ineffective that its legacy was even worse.

      phillys.winterbottom - 2013-03-08 15:11

      Over 250 billion Chrono man, to be exact.

  • Kevin Smith - 2013-03-08 14:26

    The Presidency need to get over themselves and stop blaming others for their incompetence.

  • henry.vanderfartenburp - 2013-03-08 14:30

    Sooner or later, someone's gonna have to take responsibility for the SA after 1994.

      bibi.vanzyl - 2013-03-08 15:20

      @Joshua:That apartheid was wrong is a fact, but never did the the creators of segregation (and it was not Afrikaners that invented this evil)instill violence into the beings of the South African citizens. Never did the old government instill a culture that okeyed wife beatings and child rape. Never. It is time that the ANC and its leaders look upon themselves for the moral decay of the South African population. Starting with our president who is the prime example of moral and ethical decay. I for one, am done with feeling guiltly. There is not a country or a ethnic grouping in the world who has not transgressed on humanitarian ground. But that belongs in the history books.

  • ernest.letsoalo - 2013-03-08 14:32

    You maharaj,your president and his hooligans are DENIALISTS..apartheid ended long ago but you still blame evrything violence in South Africa on are the the once who don't want to move away from it..blame your lack of vision and corruption for the crimes in our country..tell us something new,we tired of hearing the same speech from your imbecile president..just shut up,Mac,shut up!!!

      rory.n.price - 2013-03-08 14:58

      Most of the violent crimes comes from our neighbours, that had nothing to with Apartheid you stupid idiot.

  • Dennie Du Preez - 2013-03-08 14:36

    What a lot of rubbish. You should hang your heads in shame for the incompetent and corrupt way you attempt to govern this country. STOP HIDING BEHIND APARTHEID and face your own incompetence and corruption and apologise to the people of SA.

  • Jimmy Don - 2013-03-08 14:38

    Ah yes the old “get out of jail free” card called apartheid, works wonders for one of the most useless governments in the entire human history.

      FeebleGastro - 2013-03-08 14:52

      Apartheid & racism... when all else fail...

  • nhlapop - 2013-03-08 14:38

    Look whos talking. Any one surprised?

  • Sthembiso Jali - 2013-03-08 14:39

    some of us are loving

  • Jacques - 2013-03-08 14:43

    Problem with this reasoning is, the line needs to be drawn. Is 20 years enough to get over Apartheid? No? Then would 30 be? 45? 100? What about the influence tribal wars had on us before the settlers arrived? Should we see today's issues in that context too? The media can only report on what is relevant today. And today, 3 women were killed by their partners. Many more raped. 10 year old kids woke up hungry. Not focussing on that is denialist.

  • Tom Theunissen - 2013-03-08 14:46

    Blah blah blah, You old Mac is a denialist, you are forever denying that our prez is a corrupt guy unfit to govern our country, you deny that you are a criminal, you deny that there are farm murders and the list goes on and on and on. I think it is now time to close your mouth, pack your bags and go and wait for the hawks to help you move into your new home at Max C

      john.silver.3572846 - 2013-03-08 15:00

      or f-off and at least enjoy the illegal proceeds of the licence tenders and arms deal.

  • Lindy Jeffery - 2013-03-08 14:46

    And so-called democracy is also having a profound impact on this country.

  • John Churchill - 2013-03-08 14:46

    Why reference the "racist" words 'These incidents remind us that we come from an immensely violent culture. We survived a cruel system of governance... "The apartheid system could only be sustained through violence, and violence became entrenched." Freeek those words go all over the world.....eish more embarrassment for all us SOUTH AFRICANS. I see no reference of his misconduct.....ever....Smoking his socks again me finks

  • garth.labuschagne - 2013-03-08 14:49

    How does Zuma or the presidency explain 'born free' violent criminals then? And please sir explain to me what exactly the government has done in the last 19 years to curb this mindset? Suddenly when there is a problem it just has to be blamed on Apartheid! The government has failed the people, it is as easy as that. Lots of talk again before an election I see...

  • LionLamb - 2013-03-08 14:51

    Blaming apartheid is a stupid excuse. Yes apartheid was horrific... but we have a choice.. either we keep on bring up the past and use it as an excuse for the cr@p government we have now, or we choose to move on and make a real change! It's a choice people... Get over apartheid now and move on. ANC has been in power for almost 20 years... Time to stop making excuses for the corruption in Government, and instead start making a mind set change and together stand as a country against all hatred, violence and corruption!!

  • John Churchill - 2013-03-08 14:52

    oh please JACOB ohPlease get that R 40 bar that your cousin's uncle spent on that website in the OFS back. Give it to me...I'll do a website, fix TELKOM, ESKOM and SAA an you still have some change to buy you a fancy jet with a bar full of Johnny Walker Black....eeeck I mean White(before I get accused of being racist....Eish boss!

  • NigelGauteng - 2013-03-08 14:53

    Crap, Mac, crap! You and the ANC are suffering from worst depression and paranoia! Get a life man!

  • joshua.vanvuren - 2013-03-08 14:59

    YOU!, ANC-yes you with your SA Communist Party urged and promoted the "Armed Struggle'since 1960 for 30 years, in other words; voilence through the masses on the apartheid government and those (the population) that didnt agreed with your voilent methods of liberation-you, ANC and SACP, are today just as guilty of our voilent culture.

  • Niel Swanepoel - 2013-03-08 15:03

    looking for excuses ... to play that card has been over done and to be honest no one believes it any more! and your only looking for an excuses. when are we going to get solution to the current problems in sa? .... when is the presidency going to govern instead of pushing blame ?

  • DrGonzoSA - 2013-03-08 15:04

    If you want to see DENIAL I would recommend you read The New Age. Ptretending everything is fine is very much the style of Zuma's presidency.

  • DrGonzoSA - 2013-03-08 15:07

    Do the Japanese still witter on about the Americans dropping two atomic bombs on them? NO they don't, it's called moving on

  • johan.grobler.12327 - 2013-03-08 15:09

    Old Mac. Spin doctor for the precidency. You are trying so hard to clean up old JZ's image. Too late. People with average and above intellect knows the truth. It's not what caused all these problems that matters now, it's what are your boss doing about it.

      Hugh Howard - 2013-03-08 16:37

      Oh dear George, no one wins with that attitude (except the very few at the top of the ANC tree). And however you think whites have to "pay for their sins" - apologise profusely, hit themselves on the heads 20 times a day, whatever; however unfair it may seem it just isn't going to change what happened 50 or 100 years ago. I genuinely believe that if you spent as much time demanding good clean intelligent frugal governance in all its forms from the government of the day as you did moaning about the unchangeable past you life would be 200% better already. Don't allow them to compromise your future any more.

  • phillys.winterbottom - 2013-03-08 15:09

    Maharajicrook, the reason For "overreaction" in my opinion, is because people with any semblance of a brain generally do get pissed off when preached to by a philandering crook who should be in jail along with all his side-kicks, yourself included for all the under the table monies, back-handers etc etc which you scumbags have "acquired" and which is actually the countries money. Specially irritating is the fact that you have used state resources to squash and cover up you evil deeds and now you sprout drivel about apartheid etc etc to the populace. your time is coming.....

  • nhlanhla.madide - 2013-03-08 15:11

    And while people take a denialist stance, and spew hatred to our African elders for the lack of skills they were deprived from acquiring through apertheid, the majority will always vote for the ANC. Hatred ignites the resistance that the ANC champions.I mean, while this slimy animal exists in South Africa, people want the snake that bites. It's easy to get rid of the snake, and people will, when they see the need to.

      Terence Wessels - 2013-03-08 15:23

      The only snake is the useless ANC, which are not only polarising the ppl of this country, but leading us all into a very dark and hungry hole. You are an idiot if you can't see what is happening to the country and all its people. Down with ANC, down.

      Mariann Scott - 2013-03-08 15:43

      Did Terence Wessels just totally misunderstand what he was commenting on? If he is wrong ten please clarify this comment.

      george.mabena.146 - 2013-03-08 16:14

      No marianne,even you pulled terrence ears he won't understand he is plain ignorant.

  • TrueBlue - 2013-03-08 15:13

    Apartheid affected everyone in adverse ways, even whites. They lived in constant fear as well, fear of being outed as a communist, fear of being labelled as liberals, fear of being labelled unchristian, and so it went on. White people had their homes raided,phones tapped,etc, and most young white men were conscripted into the army where they were brainwashed and in many cases brutalised by the system. It is understandable people in their late 40s, 50s and 60s could be violent, emphasis on could, and this applies to people of all races who lived under apartheid and went through the various transitions until now, but they are not! They are generally peaceful and get along with each other. This was because there was tremendous goodwill shared by all race groups despite the system. It is inexcusable for young people to bear the stigma of that generation, but the constant references to it by ANC leaders promotes the view that because the past was violent it's all right to be violent today. The blaming and pointing at the "colonial apartheid", a horrific simplification to use as a stick to beat all whites around the world, is a rising, screeching crescendo that any intelligent person can see is the only excuse the ANC has left for its own dismal performance and failure to govern. The more it's said, the more their own faults are revealed The present Zuma government has failed, and that was not caused by apartheid or colonialism. It is caused by bad leadership and bad ideology.

  • Sean Potgieter - 2013-03-08 15:14

    The past is the abode of those too weak or incompetent to seize the present and improve the future. Hey cANCer, it's time to start admitting that you are the biggest problem in the new SA.

  • Andre Jacobs - 2013-03-08 15:15

    You and the anc are using denialist propaganda to any reference about the impact of corrupt governance on the South African society.

  • bibi.vanzyl - 2013-03-08 15:19

    That apartheid was wrong is a fact, but never did the the creators of segregation (and it was not Afrikaners that invented this evil)instill violence into the beings of the South African citizens. Never did the old government instill a culture that okeyed wife beatings and child rape. Never. It is time that the ANC and its leaders look upon themselves for the moral decay of the South African population. Starting with our president who is the prime example of moral and ethical decay. I for one, am done with feeling guiltly. There is not a country or a ethnic grouping in the world who has not transgressed on humanitarian ground. But that belongs in the history books.

  • Kobus Engelbrecht - 2013-03-08 15:19

    3 SA women killed by partner each day. This is the headline on a current story on news24. " the overwhelming majority of the 52 million South Africans are peaceful, caring, law-abiding citizens," the president said.But they kill there partners at this rate?Some peaceful ,caring citizens! "

  • Andre Jacobs - 2013-03-08 15:21

    Mac Maharaj maak geraas again as to justify the massive salary he is "earning"

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2013-03-08 15:21

    SA has NEVER been as violent as it is now under the ANC regime!

  • George Lyon - 2013-03-08 15:22

    I guess a reference to apartheid - and scapegoating - is an attempt to gain cultural self-respect in the face of such widespread violence. Fair enough. Put without concrete plans and actions for the present and future, such pontification about past injustices serve no purpose.

  • Brendon Chalmers - 2013-03-08 15:39

    How can anybody take you seriously? You take bribes!You are coruptable. Rather don't talk!

  • Roz Rose - 2013-03-08 15:44

    the first generation born after apartheid are already having children, so we are into the 2nd generation of democracy. So its denialism if we have people who dont know why we keep blaming the past?

  • Wayne Groenewald - 2013-03-08 16:03

    How does the blame game excuse the total inaction and dissociation of the presidency from the violent reality in South Africa. 3 women killed daily by their partners, highest rape occurrences in the world, one of the highest murder rates, spiraling corruption... These barbaric activities were around long before apartheid - how does blaming apartheid help the CURRENT disaster besides diverting attention and if anything encouraging more separatist violence and racial prejudices. Yes we know apartheid was wrong, but the ingorance of the ANC is equally as bad. They are allowing thugs to hold us prisoner. Zuma cannot ignorantly brush this off and blame the media. I suppose life in Inkandla is safe and peachy with its R200 million security system. The media reports on reality and the reality here is a country totally out of control, being torn apart by such extreme violence it shocks even the hardest mind. There is no excuse for these disgusting events.

  • Juanne-pierre De Abreu - 2013-03-08 16:09

    It makes sense to keep talking about it, without apartheid the ANC would be nothing. The ANC is a direct response to Apartheid, without it what are they? What do they stand for? And in a few more years the born frees will be in the work place, they need to be told about apartheid because that's all they will ever know about it.

  • Lynn Hattingh - 2013-03-08 16:17

    Oh my soul! Mac Maharaj even you have out done yourself this time, I hope your name is written on the bottom of your shoes! You are both equally inept and cannot see the woods for the trees.

  • Mohaola Keke - 2013-03-08 16:26

    TRC that was headed by MR ntshebenza ,MR ramaphosa and others is the one to look at , some of the media is just a catalyst of those outcomes even today poor blacks are still manipulated to forgive people who don't care about them ...

      Nkosinathi Gezindaba Snr - 2013-03-08 17:13

      We are always forced to forgive ppl who are not sorry... White ppl are not sorry for what they did, they never apologised! FW De Klerk never said he was sorry, none of them apologised en we are told to get over it everyday! But, having said that, the ANC led government should not blame apartheid for everything! No excuse should be made!

  • Nkosinathi Gezindaba Snr - 2013-03-08 16:38

    People hate each other and it's part of life, white ppl hated black ppl en black ppl hated white ppl, and that hate still exists en it will always exist! Therefore it is useless to always blame apartheid for everything wrong today! The ANC led government has all the resources to lead, to combat crime, to create jobs, etc, and apartheid can't be blamed for their failures! Its about time they stopped blaming everything on history! They should start implementing harsher sentences for criminals, stop their corrupt tendencies, create jobs and education opportunities for all!

  • JanGrimbeek - 2013-03-08 16:42

    Some in Media but all in Government !

  • matsutle.aphane - 2013-03-08 16:42

    jz and mac we are sic an tired of u every day blaming APARTHEID,,,,! WE WANT DELIVERY HERE,,,,!

  • bibi.vanzyl - 2013-03-08 17:02

    @Tsililo: racism, xenophobia and tribalism will never disappear. It is very wrong but you cannot change human nature.

  • elmarie.viljoen.7 - 2013-03-08 17:04

    How long are they going to blame Apartheid? As long as we all look to blame the past for the failures of today, we will not be able to focus on fixing tomorrow. Apartheid is gone and suppose to be dead, but how can we move on if everyone is constantly being reminded of this past?? Every year it is mentioned at the opening of Parliament. If you can so quickly mention apartheid in all the speeches, and if it is so easy to blame the past for today's rape and/murder/corruption, then would it be o.k. for me to start blaming apartheid for the way the goverment is run today? I think not, because then, I would be doing the same as you! Instead of talking constantly about apartheid, rather start talking change. Change for a better South Africa, a safer South Africa, a place where people feel safe at night when they go to sleep!

      Nkosinathi Gezindaba Snr - 2013-03-08 17:21

      Totally agree, apartheid is gone, but do not tell us to get over it, tell us not to use it as an excuse! Apartheid shouldn't be an excuse for poor service delivery, crime, etc! You can't tell the Jews to just get over what Germans did to them!

  • Frank Coetzee - 2013-03-08 17:57

    Utter rubbish poor Maharaj. Even the little president agree and become concerned about moral DECAY and that means that our moral fibre as a nation was better and stronger during and the years after apartheid but went downwards the past few years. (Most people would say since we get such a joke for a president). 19 years is more than enough to rebuild moral fibre and many other things so if apartheid was so bad and our leaders so good, then everything should be BETTER and not worse. If it's worse as is indeed the case with many things, then it's impossible to even pinpoint something in the past if things was better than now. In fact, even very shortly after apartheid Nelson Mandela managed to improve our moral fibre as a nation upwards a few points or more.

  • Brutus Brave - 2013-03-08 18:33

    Preach Mr. President.

  • jcistheman - 2013-03-08 19:33

    We got rid of one lot of crooked bastards and replaced them with another. That's the real problem. Mr President, will you ever take responsibility for your epic failings?

  • Danny Davids - 2013-03-08 19:44

    yes zuma shud stop using apartheid as an excuse for his inability to govern he shud rather do abet classes and finish grade 12

  • Trevor Reid - 2013-03-08 19:48

    Maybe we can blame much of South Afric'a crime and education problems on lead. In this article, there are no references to South Africa, but I suspect that all the issues do apply to South africa, and urgent research is required.