Protector did not find Cele guilty - SAPS

2011-03-10 19:03

Johannesburg - National Police Commissioner General Bheki Cele's office has bemoaned "inaccurate news reporting" on the public protector's report on a R500m lease agreement for new police headquarters.

A statement from the police's national media centre on Thursday said various news reports had found Cele "guilty" of improper conduct after the police authorised the lease for the Sanlam Middestad Building in Pretoria.

"We have taken the time to read the comprehensive report by the office of Ms Thuli Madonsela. Nowhere in the report does the public protector find General Bheki Cele 'guilty' of anything," the statement said.

"We would also request the office of the public protector to challenge the abuse of the word. Such false reporting creates the impression that General Bheki Cele was tried in a court of law, whereas the fact is that the national commissioner has not been accused of criminality."

In her report Madonsela initially referred only to "the accounting officer" of the SA Police Service as being guilty of improper conduct.

Asked who this was, Madonsela said Cele, as head of the police, was the accounting officer.

In her report, Madonsela found the lease between the public works department and property tycoon Roux Shabangu's Roux Property Fund to be invalid.

'Report exonerated Cele'

She asked for a National Treasury review to establish what steps could be taken to terminate the lease. She said that although Cele did not sign the actual lease, he did sign a memorandum dated May 10 2010, which authorised funding for the lease. The lease was ultimately signed by the public works department.

Madonsela said Cele's conduct breached the Constitution, the Public Finance Management Act, Treasury regulations and supply chain management rules and policies.

"This conduct was improper, unlawful and amounted to maladministration," she said.

Cele's office said however, that the same public protector's report had "totally exonerated" General Cele of having been involved in the signing of the lease.

"Most media have also failed to note that, although the Sunday Times of 1 August 2010 trumpeted 'Brass baffled as top cop suddenly signs lease for new HQ' and went on to state that it was in possession of a 'lease agreement .... signed by Cele", the same public protector's report totally exonerated General Cele of having been involved in the signing of the lease.

'Blatant lie'

"Perhaps a front page correction on this blatant lie would be in order."

The statement said there was a "developing trend" by news organisation using the word "guilty" in association with the protector's findings.

"For example, today's The Times newspaper reads: 'The report was made public last month. It found national police commissioner Bheki Cele guilty of improper conduct and maladministration...'

"We request The Times newspaper, the eNews channel and other media who continue to use this word to show us where it appears in the report or any other correspondence emanating from the office of the public protector."

Cele came under fire from ANC and opposition parties after two police intelligence officers raided the public protector's offices last week.

The officers wanted a document which featured in a Sunday Times report two weeks ago and which Madonsela's office said the police themselves handed over to her for her investigation.

The document related to allegations that Cele was caught up in the improper lease agreement.

Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa asked Cele to investigate the visit.

The public protector could not immediately be reached for comment.

  • Slapper - 2011-03-10 19:18

    What a load of Bull. The lease was illegal. The guy did not even own the Building when the lease was signed. I wonder how much went to the ANC Election War chest?

  • CAROLAM - 2011-03-10 19:27

    Too stupid to understand

  • Coffeeor Me - 2011-03-10 19:34

    It would be unconstitutional to have a chief police who was not corrupt. Viva South Africa we have done it again, welcome to drain that South Africa is washing away in

      IandI - 2011-03-11 08:22

      He and Selebi would make good cell-mates, finish and klaar.

  • Tilo - 2011-03-10 19:35

    The education level of our leaders is really pathetic. 1.Read and comprehension - Fail. 2.Counting money in back pocket - Pass. Wonder what their combined education level is?

  • shrink - 2011-03-10 19:54

    i just wasted my valuable reading these nonsense

      NzWenz - 2011-03-10 20:47

      Then why bother to read it

      Umfubi - 2011-03-10 22:38

      @ NzWenz: But how would he know unless he read it?

      Peter - 2011-03-11 08:39

      You need to read more to get your English grammer right.

      Souf-Efrikan - 2011-03-11 08:54

      @Peter... Ja swaer... is that grammer or grammar? News24 needs a spell checker....

  • ArtGee - 2011-03-10 19:54

    "GUILTY OF IMPROPER CONDUCT".... which part of THAT is difficult to understand???????? South Africa is run like a FAMILY BUSINESS!!!

      stephanjvv - 2011-03-10 22:56

      Low IQ = not even try to understand.

  • ArtGee - 2011-03-10 19:56

    I believe "General" Cele is now being called "CELEBI"... similar sounding name to his predecessor whom was as corrupt as can be!!!! Celebi makes Jackie Salebi look like a Sunday School Teacher~~~~~!

      Pieter Wolf - 2011-03-10 20:03


      maseratifitt - 2011-03-10 20:42

      Celebi . I like! Something to Cele brat. Cheers.

  • Madelane - 2011-03-10 19:58

    Always when found out in their nefarous dealings the ANC quickly start splitting hairs and resort to pointless rhetoric in a rather silly attempt to cloud the water. The accounting officer of the SAPS was found GUILTY of misconduct and the accounting officer is Cele. Where on earth is the mystery? Of course Zuma avoided his corruption charge so every ANC politician wants the same service.

  • Grant - 2011-03-10 19:58

    I actually think that this babboon ACTUALLY thinks that lines such as "The report was made public last month. It found national police commissioner Bheki Cele guilty of improper conduct and maladministration..." are false. Simply because those exact words do not appear in the report. I'm sorry - but if that report does not consist of pictures and finger puppets, there's no way in hell Cele would understand it!

      Pieter Wolf - 2011-03-10 20:12


      stephanjvv - 2011-03-10 22:59

      Baboons actually have intelligence. You can't compare the two.

  • dubloki - 2011-03-10 20:03

    Ja, well no fine. Guilty has various meanings, including "blameworthy" and "culpable". And the protector report certainly ascribes these to general Cele. So... because this will matter never go before the courts as another administrative sidestep (a la Zuma) will intervene, I say: Mr Cele, you are GUILTY in the court of public opinion.

  • exocist - 2011-03-10 20:11

    the p.p. probably got a new mercedes

  • briansmith702 - 2011-03-10 20:18

    Typical. The ANC trying to subvert the truth. What a bunch of criminals. The more they try and deny it the guiltier they become.

  • juan.coetzee - 2011-03-10 20:27

    The ANC is run like a criminal gang, and you are a kingpin Mr. Cele. You are as morally decadent and corrupt as your predecessor and your president. Stop talking nonsense.

  • CharlSkeptic - 2011-03-10 20:38

    Perhaps we can see for ourselves that Cele's conduct was improper and unlawful. We, the public, are not stupid, Mr Commissioner. I know you and recognise you for what you are. I hope you get fired soon.

  • joubert.joep - 2011-03-10 21:18

    General... LOL He is probably signing stuff he did not even read. LOL

  • Mabhulwana - 2011-03-10 21:22

    The Police, armed with all the investigative and forensic acumen failed to notice that the building does not belong to the guy who is renting it out. And Cele and Co are trying to pull wool over our faces. FYI General Cele, some of us passed matric before life orientation skills became a subject. Are you related to SELEBI?

      joubert.joep - 2011-03-10 21:32

      Man do I agree with you (you must be able to put more than 2 braincells together at the same time) LOL... but I am of the opinion that we should look at the corrupt person who gave him the documents to sign in the first place and then at the "people" that appointed an unqualified "General" in a highranking post... Love the way you think though and I would vote for you if you run for president! Please start an uncorrupt political party and send me the voting details...

  • billyo - 2011-03-10 21:27

    A load of bull is right. The Concise Oxford's primary definition of 'guilty' is: culpable of or responsible for a wrong.And if the cop spin merchants want to know what the definition of 'culpable' is it's: deserving blame. Cele has not been charged but he has been shown to be guilty.

  • garco - 2011-03-10 21:28

    So what if Celebi has an IQ of zero, our president finished grade 4. Viva Africa. No wonder. oh and I forgot about stupid malema's IQ of 0000000000000000000000000000000 Who r we kidding.

      stephanjvv - 2011-03-10 23:01

      They are kidding the masses of voters, who has an even lower IQ.

      noddie.999 - 2011-03-11 08:31

      @stephanjvv. The sad thing is you are totally right. And that is why we are doomed in this country. Democracy works assuming an intelligent electorate who understand the power of their vote. Unfortunately, Africa has shown us over and over that the general population is not clever enough for democracy to work properly.

  • Reality - 2011-03-10 21:52

    The media must not make themselves guilty of calling something "half empty" when in fact it is "half full". Blatant lies. Now what would the govt and ANC do if there was no media?? How would they pass each day???

      stephanjvv - 2011-03-10 22:54

      They would think of more ways to scam some taxpayers money into their own pockets, although they get caught most of the time because they don't have the IQ.

  • stephanjvv - 2011-03-10 22:52

    Just because 90% of the populations IQ is far below average, does not mean 100% of the economically active population will believe this crap being dished up. Wake up ANC, try at least, I know it is hard with your IQ.

  • The Mayor - 2011-03-10 23:16

    Stomach In, Chest Out, Pockets FULL

  • Joe - 2011-03-10 23:29

    "the accounting officer" of the SA Police Service as being guilty of improper conduct. Cele's conduct breached the Constitution, the Public Finance Management Act, Treasury regulations and supply chain management rules and policies. "This conduct was improper, unlawful and amounted to maladministration," Is this too difficult for the top cop to understand? Cele, just save us taxpayers some time and money, plead guilty and join your buddy, Selebi.

  • golferspal - 2011-03-11 02:54

    They,the IQ 65 and lower cannot run a nation, look what happened in Africa.In the history of Africa they could not even build a double story building,no sewerage system,not even invented a wheel.

  • Bonzer - 2011-03-11 03:30

    Never underestimate the power of denial. So often I have caught an employee redhanded stealing and they deny it. They will stand there with the evidence in their hand and deny having it! These people have absolutely no shame. You can never rely on them doing the right thing, they are driven by greed and short term gratification. The right or correct thing never enters their thick skulls!!

      HAYIKE - 2011-03-11 08:28

      @ Bonzer - Thats plain racist

  • Richard - 2011-03-11 08:08

    Who cares

  • Fred - 2011-03-11 08:48

    Combined intellectual capacity of anc "leaders" is - a void in a vacuum surrounded by well nothing.

  • Ramaupi - 2011-03-11 08:52

    cele is corypt like other anc politicians

  • Souf-Efrikan - 2011-03-11 08:53

    If it is not blamed (are we still allowed to use that word) on rasism, then they were quoted out of context... these darkies (apparently we are allowed to use that one) will find any excuse for not doing their frigging jobs!!

  • Souf-Efrikan - 2011-03-11 09:07

    On second thoughts... How can the police do their job if they cannot determine right from wrong? On what basis do they arrest somebody, they cannot call the suspect guilty, because if you use this idiots way of thinking, somebody is only guilty if found guilty in a court, so the police cannot call anybody guilty of anything, as they are not the judge in a court of law. Who was it again that made the statement about a monkey that came to South Africa to murder his wife? I cannot remember that the monkey came anywhere near a court yet...

  • RealistKZN - 2011-03-11 09:51

    This is probably the hardest General Bheki Cele has ever worked..trying to destroy all the evidence against him.

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