Protector probes Nkandla

2012-10-07 10:18

Johannesburg - Public Protector Thuli Madonsela has opened an investigation into publicly funded construction at the private residence of President Jacob Zuma, City Press reported on Sunday.

"Yes, an investigation is under way," Madonsela told the paper.

Madonsela said her office began preparing for an investigation after an official complaint was made a few months ago.

She said Democratic Alliance parliamentary leader Lindiwe Mazibuko also made a complaint last week.

"Because of our resource constraints, the investigation hasn't gone further than contacting the presidency," Madonsela told the paper.

"We are asking the presidency who makes what decisions and who is accountable. This involves more than just [the department of] public works.

On Friday, Public Works Minister Thulas Nxesi said the upgrades at Zuma's residents were similar to those of former presidents.

He declined to disclose how much money had been spent on the security and other constructions.

So far, high security fences had been erected, roads in the area had been upgraded and local fire fighting services had been developed for the helipads.

Reports have estimated the cost of the work to be between R203m and R238m.

  • Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-10-07 10:26

    This is good news. South Africans deserve some answers. It's our money that is being squandered. Zuma's government is hiding behind a 1980 apartheid law to get his private residence upgraded.

      daleinn - 2012-10-07 11:19

      We have to probe everything these days... text book scandal, nkandla, presidents private jet,police building tenders, ratanang trust and money laundering,fraud and corruption in the civil sector,tenderprenuers and closed bids.........

      David - 2012-10-07 11:19

      Go for it Thuli!

      darren.raath.5 - 2012-10-07 11:20

      not going to be long before she gets silenced , fired or even murdered. no one goes against zoomer and gets away with it.

      Anthony - 2012-10-07 11:36

      yes this is good news--I note she says she is short of resources-which of course suits the government--so why dont the big businesses like anglo ,goldfiends ,anglo ashanti ,sasol ,standard bank,the list goes on and on -donate some resources to Thuli, she needs them -they can cut back of sports sponship -better to have a non-corrupt government than wonderful sports teams i I am sure many readers of this comment work for these big companies --so go on when u are at work tomorrow and send the boss an e mail-- we must all fight corruption this is a challenge to mark cuttifanie ,nick holland and cynthia carrol ----PLEASE HELP SAVE SOUTH AFRICA FROM CORRUPTION

      heathway.master - 2012-10-07 11:44

      For all other citizens of the country, you get a salary and perks, and these should be used to acquire and upgrade private property. To use public funds to spend on your privately owned assets, would if I understand present business practices in this country, an illegal and criminal act, as it should not form part of the unending perks he presently enjoys. The strange thing is that Zuma appears to be able to recklessly spend taxpayers funds as he likes, yet all of a sudden, unbelievably high e-tolls have suddenly become imperative to pay for the upgrade of one lane on a 4 lane concrete highway, originally paid for with taxpayers money. If the Gauteng motorists ever allow SANRAL to get away with this "Great Highway Robbery", then they will have shown themselves up to be beaten and defeated by a Government in the final stages of putrifaction.

      heathway.master - 2012-10-07 12:54

      History clearly records that those despicably evil presidents pre 1994, all retired in very modest houses. FW de Klerk, PW Botha ( Modest house in George ) BJ Vorster. Probably the one of the greatest presidents this country ever had, Jan Smuts retired in a corrugated iron and wood, very simple house which is still standing in Irene, Pretoria. Just who does this uneducated, completely and hopelessly incompetent , Zuma, with a list of alleged criminal offences to his name, actually think he is. It will be a momentous day in SA politics when this arrogant, pumped up upstart, populist President finally disappears off the SA political scene. At this point in time, he must rank as the least competent President this country has ever had to endure over the countries entire history. His only objective in life is self enrichment, and fiddling while the country burns, so as not to harm his image in anyway, and hopefully be elected for another disastrous 5 years, to further lead ( what a complete joke ) this country down the road to poverty and unemployment, lack of education, lack of medical facilities, lack of service deliveries, lack of care for the plight of its citizens, etc etc etc

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-10-08 11:03

      Whilst Rome burns, Zuma gets to hide in his secure compound... uh homestead in Nkandla

      rowan.clark.10 - 2012-10-08 11:33

      If the country is safe he should not have to spend one cent on "security ""arrangements""" at his house ,the police would be fine.Is their something we dont know?

  • - 2012-10-07 10:27

    This sounds stupid, but just think how many of those mine workers can use these money if it were to be paid to them in salary. That would take the strain off of the tax payer who will have to pay more due to a failing economy.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-07 11:58

      Doesnt sound stupid at all Martin.

  • kenny.bianco.7 - 2012-10-07 10:28

    Atleast the investigative findings will tell us more

  • PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-10-07 10:28

    *faints, wakes up, grabs the popcorn but doesn't hold her breath*

      Desilusionada - 2012-10-07 11:10

      Dear Thuli, Watch your back. Oh, and employ those bodyguards that Malema does not need any-more. You are in for the worst intimidation of your life. Digging into this one will be like using a sodden paper teaspoon on a heap of frozen shyte. (In fact, I don't hold my breath either)......

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-10-07 10:32

    Go Thuli go, there needs to be an end to this money waste.

  • sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-10-07 10:37

    Thank you Thuli, and thank you City Press! If this upgrade happens, it will be a slap in the face of every South African - those living in abject poverty, and those paying income tax. Please don't let them get away with it!

  • Benjamin Zantsi II - 2012-10-07 10:37

    this was expected: the DA speaks, Madonsela jumps! hope she comes back with an egg on her face. #PublicPuppet

      sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-10-07 10:44

      @ Benjamin - does this mean you approve the blatant wastage of the people's money?

      ingwani.sithole - 2012-10-07 10:46

      yes she met with Zille and cleared her name, she must tell us about the crashed car

      julio.sanfona - 2012-10-07 11:34

      There! Said like a true loser. It's because of brainless people with no back bone like Benjamin who support despots that most of Africa is in abject poverty.

      BulletProof. - 2012-10-07 11:38

      Looks like that you make part of the gang of thieves that hijack this country.

      Bongeka - 2012-10-07 13:18

      I'm not a DA supporter either but Thuli is a public protector not a DA or ANC protector only, but the entire South Africans. So claiming that DA had an influence is unfounded. And even if she was influenced by their pressure I think she was influenced good. Good things can come from where you at least expect them, remember that.

      vera.platt - 2012-10-07 14:37

      So the question that begs to be answered is - was Benjamin Zantsi I just as blatantly ignorant as you?

      talana.malherbe - 2012-10-08 14:21

      Only an idiot would think like this or skelm wouldn't want Thuli Madonsela to probe... I so admire her, she must have the most difficult and dangerous job in SA. You go girl, we are proud of you!

  • ingwani.sithole - 2012-10-07 10:44

    I don't support the Nkandla upgrade but Thuli Madonsela is an agent, she always take orders from the dumb alliance (DA).

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-10-07 10:49

      @ Sganja - what is it you don't understand about the term PUBLIC Protector?

      harley.quin.334 - 2012-10-07 10:54

      Sganja, you are a total moron and deserve to be s screwed over by the government

      matthew.patrick.925 - 2012-10-07 11:01

      Your not-so-well thought out comment makes you seem quite dumb. The purpose of any opposition in democracies around the world is to question the ruling party. Who knows what corruption, fraud or theft your beloved ANC government could get away with if they were not opposed on questionable issues. Granted, the 1st family takes up more cubic metres than 3 times the average SA family but they don't need a R220 million home, especially from taxpayers money that could build schools and hospitals. People like you seem to waste the responsibility associated with casting a vote but, sadly, a minimum IQ score to register will remain a dream...

      gary.guy.507 - 2012-10-07 11:21

      Ok Mr big mouth Sganja. Instead of just sprouting your diatribe, why not put some facts now. Do some research and come back and tell us a) how many investigations 'puppet' Madonsela was ordered to do by the DA were proved false and thrown out and b) how many show gross fraud and corruption by your darlings the ANC!

      harley.quin.334 - 2012-10-07 11:25

      @sganja, actually i know a whole lot more than that, but i would be wasting my time on people like you who are quite happy with the sorry state of affairs, happy with the corruption, the nepotism, the tender rigging, the incompetence. people like you who are happy to accept all of the above fo no other reason than a black government dishing it out, in other words blinkered racists like you, morons like you

      julio.sanfona - 2012-10-07 11:36

      The Da may not be money grabbers or corrupt fraudsters like those in government but they definitely are not dumb.

      BulletProof. - 2012-10-07 11:45

      I don't know how you people waste time to answer to this moron.@Sganja, do you realise how many people call you moron and other names, be ashamed!!!!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-10-07 11:58

      Sganja, we all know you are a troll. No one with brains would write such tripe as you do.

      vera.platt - 2012-10-07 14:34

      Houston we had an ID 10 T error.

      talana.malherbe - 2012-10-08 14:24

      Waste of time to try and explain to this idiot...don't think he understands anyway.

  • kim.buren - 2012-10-07 10:49

    You go girl and throw the trash out

  • Twolips - 2012-10-07 10:50

    Go, Thuli, go. Its time us ordinary folk get to hear the whole truth. SA must do like any other country does: when you stop being president or prime minister etc you go back to your own home and no further perks.

  • wsaunderson - 2012-10-07 10:50

    Just think how many jobs could off been created, and how much money the goverment could have earned in taxes from these jobs - just another reckless spending

  • gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-07 10:52

    Cashing in because he knows he might be out soon. Very strange that this man houses his many women in rodavels, with his reputation how does he corner them when he wants his way with them??

  • kyle.r.lottering - 2012-10-07 10:52

    Eish! My president! My president! *singing*

  • harley.quin.334 - 2012-10-07 10:55

    shame thuli, with the state of rampant corruption in our so called government you must be busier than a one-legged man in a butt kicking contest

      james.hurley.1401 - 2012-10-08 18:10

      Best comment ever

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-10-07 10:56

    Funny how not one bad apartheid whitey had the cheek to build a compound palace system like Zumas one. Mugabe has palaces, Ghadafi had one. The future built on this basis is Africas downfall. Greed, arrogance, waste.

      Paul Van Schalkwyk - 2012-10-07 11:14

      how many houses can be built for the poor and needy with that kind of money ? but then again how much money will be stolen by corrupt tenders / contractors / directors if the money was actually available ?

      vera.platt - 2012-10-07 14:30

      Very good point!

  • ituib - 2012-10-07 10:58

    Eix, Nkandlagate...

  • pmalungana - 2012-10-07 10:59

    well if thesame budget has been spent on the upgrade of other former president, that has never drwan such a public outcry. Should we then be told with specific reference in order to restore the office of the presidency.Thuli what are your terms of reference?

  • martin.brink.965 - 2012-10-07 11:05

    Don't forget that the land does not belong to Mr Zuma, so no comparison with past leaders has any merit. This is tribal land and therefore no reason the South African tax payer should be even remotely involved! So tired of liars and thieves, its no wonder our general populace have the stinking attitudes towards fellow South Africans that they have!

  • tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-10-07 11:07

    whats the point of this investigations when no head ever roll, even if Thuli can prove any wrong doing money has already been spend and the shower man will act surprised again - haai to me this is just a waste of resources and time

  • charl.e.visser.1 - 2012-10-07 11:11

    Another reason for us to vote ANC... Praise to our great leaders! Continuing the selfless struggle... The ANC truly cares!

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-10-07 12:45


  • bob.small.7547 - 2012-10-07 11:12

    Great don't leave no stone unturned!

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-10-07 11:26

      @bob.small.7547:)if ever any stone would ever be turned. My major concern is the statement by the Public Protector that goes like:\due to the constraints in our resources, we have first contacted the Presidency\. To me this could easily lead to covering any stone to be turned. I rest my case.

  • julio.sanfona - 2012-10-07 11:23

    You go girl, I'm with you all the way.

  • - 2012-10-07 11:25

    Another attempt at pretending to do the right thing, we all know nothing will come of it. Zuma and the ANC are the law, the police, and the dictators.

  • ron.warwick.79 - 2012-10-07 11:34

    Zuma's house upgrade (R200 million +) and the new jet/s he wants to buy (R2 billion +) means +/- 44 000 houses can't be built,(Assuming 4 per house) then 176 000 people will go without so he can benefit. Its all about him, stuff the people! Funny thing is, they will still vote for him! Thats one person, Imagine if we included all the rest of the croonies.

      thabo.modiba.7 - 2012-10-07 12:47

      That's his housing allowance and travelling allowance. Ever heard of the saying that says \ strike while the iron is hot \ ? That's what he is doing.

  • lazarus.masilela - 2012-10-07 11:36

    When Thulamabota Nxesi was appointed as public works minister,he vowed to rid the department of corruption.Why is he taking defence of the Nkandla President Zuma?This is loughable to say the least.Madonsela must put weight of he resources on this matter and let the nation get answers.Zuma is very good in suspicious deals.

  • es.vl.9 - 2012-10-07 11:36

    But Mugabe has a palace as well. Unfair. lol

  • Anthony - 2012-10-07 11:40

    yes this is good news--I note she says she is short of resources-which of course suits the government--so why dont the big businesses like anglo ,goldfiends ,anglo ashanti ,sasol ,standard bank,the list goes on and on -donate some resources to Thuli, she needs them -they can cut back of sports sponship -better to have a non-corrupt government than wonderful sports teams i I am sure many readers of this comment work for these big companies --so go on when u are at work tomorrow and send the boss an e mail-- we must all fight corruption this is a challenge to mark cuttifanie ,nick holland and cynthia carrol ----PLEASE HELP SAVE SOUTH AFRICA FROM CORRUPTION

  • david.mnyungula - 2012-10-07 11:41

    Can anyone explain ather president spending

  • isaac.tapfumaneyi.5 - 2012-10-07 11:53

    but all these violents and strikes in your country are giving him stress,he deserve luxury plz just give it to him and his many wives lol

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-10-07 11:54

    Good news. Go Thuli and don't let your findings be buried in some or another office.

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-10-07 12:08

      jacqui - let's hope her findings get shoved up a certain someone's o(ri)fice, eh?

  • sihlangu.hokweni - 2012-10-07 11:57

    This is JUST BUT ONE LADY who is best positioned

      sihlangu.hokweni - 2012-10-07 12:04

      Show my whole commet u NEWS 24 people! What a u doing cutting my comment to the point that u are distorting the implication of my unDoctored ORIGINAL STATEMENT?Its clear u've also been sucked into this INKANDLA TRADITIONAL CLOWN'S SPELL.

  • roy.wadhams.1 - 2012-10-07 12:00

    Once this investigation has been completed will the findings be made public? Why should we the taxpayer pay for Zuma's extravagant living which will carry on forever even when he leaves office. This is DISGUSTING when one looks at how his people live in squalor and him and his wives live the way they do.

      allegra.adams - 2012-10-07 12:09

      .....and Many children

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-10-07 12:01

    This is too much!With that amount Zuma cud have bought a small island somewhere and been the president forever.

      thabo.modiba.7 - 2012-10-07 12:36

      And chase out all males.

      vera.platt - 2012-10-07 14:24

      Award - comment of the article!

  • phillipmongatane - 2012-10-07 12:03

    A probe into nkandla will give the country some light on the funding

  • allegra.adams - 2012-10-07 12:05

    Does Zuma need a residence or a whole village?

      douglas.reid.921 - 2012-10-07 12:59

      When you plan on more wives and children you need a village. Charlie Chaplin sired his last child in his 80's and I bet our spear has a lot more in him.

      vera.platt - 2012-10-07 14:23

      Well he is Zulu so traditionally, yes, he would need a village...

  • phillipm.seopa - 2012-10-07 12:05

    This is long overdue

  • dehlia.fredericks - 2012-10-07 12:06

    spend it mr pres....lekker djy..vani kapenaars!

  • sean.mkhize.1 - 2012-10-07 12:16

    I like Thuli because she is not a politician, she does her work as a professional person and a servant of the state. Her findings will be known and I trust the presidency will give her the space to conduct and complete her work unlike Helen Zille who was all over the show threatening Mandonsela about her investigation on the Western Cape tender fraud.

  • thabo.modiba.7 - 2012-10-07 12:33

    Zuma's so called security expenditure is R40m/family, since he has 6 families in his compound it becomes R40 x 6 = R240m. He is costing 6 times more. The big question is: is he 6 times better than the previous Presidents ? Obviously a big NO.

  • Prince Bird - 2012-10-07 12:39

    Thuli can make perfect president. U just nominate criminals and incapable candidates while wise ppl like Thuli proves to be great leaders. Maybe you benefit from these criminals?

  • sean.mkhize.1 - 2012-10-07 13:03

    It is very difficult to engage intellectually on these discussions here on 24, this is simple because most of the respondents are racists and mainly white people. These guys are just angry, irrational and seemingly can't be objective and clear headed. If you follow all the responses on any topic you wonder what type of education, and the level thereof, that they hold..........

      vera.platt - 2012-10-07 14:21

      Here is another quote for you - Often the most racist person in the room is the one who brings up the topic first. \r\nBe very very careful what you generalize on, its generalization that creates in justice as we have seen in the past in many many countries.

      Nhleko Celani - 2012-10-07 14:41

      why saying people are racist when they tell truth!, if you are not satisfied how your money as a tax payer being spent- that is not a racism.

  • Jacob Zooma - 2012-10-07 13:06

    I don't see what the big fuss is all about... I need a panic room for the familia and myself for the civil war which is pending.

      sisa.mtwana - 2012-10-07 16:15

      No where to hide mr president

  • thabojames.mohanoe - 2012-10-07 13:07

    i regret voting 4 this mickey mouse party.

      vera.platt - 2012-10-07 14:18

      That's the joy of democracy. You can change your vote next time. Just use is wisely and vote for the only party that doesn't give their votes to the ANC for seats, don't be chicken to take a stand...

      ludwe.kolwapi - 2012-10-08 03:22

      I'm glad you see the light..If people still vote for anc after all this,then they are as dumb as those anc fat cats

  • Bongeka - 2012-10-07 13:08

    I like this woman,ma'an I just like officials who just do what they've been deployed for with no fear. Let's just hope they don't re-deploy her or try to paint some dirt on her that will requier her removal from her current position. But that would be pretty obvious South Africa, wouldn't it? What am I saying? It happened before so that means it can happen again.

      cilliers.vanniekerk.1 - 2012-10-07 20:43

      I'm with you, Bongeka, but I think there will be a public outcry like never before if they touch this woman: Although she never looked for it she has so much public support that she commands real power, even towards the ANC. That's also why I think that if she finds irregularity it will be acted upon. An altogether remarkable woman, is our Thuli Madonsela.

  • lenox.ntlantsana - 2012-10-07 13:12

    Kwasuka loko! Question is, if it is found to be the estimated amount then what?

      vera.platt - 2012-10-07 14:14

      Regardless of what is found nothing will be done because the AG and SA Public are a a bunch of spineless whimps.

  • brian.semake - 2012-10-07 13:29

    Probing will not yield results therefore waist of time.\r\nBottomline we as taxpayers we will foot the bill to make our president live lavishly

  • derrickdee.ditshego - 2012-10-07 13:36

    This time zuma has gone too far

      Luyanda Qoyi - 2012-10-07 13:55

      and they just lost my vote if he wins in Mangaung

  • vera.platt - 2012-10-07 14:10

    Hee Hee Hee... Probe

  • mawetu.janda - 2012-10-07 14:12

    Nxesi's utterings( that ZOOMER's residents were similar to that of former presidents)is just typical of cANCer POLOITIX OF THE STOMACH.He knows himself that what he says is dissimilar to what is real.He cleally knows that there is no De Klerkville ,Madibaville and Thaboville but he prefers to veil the truth only to feed his stomach.Don't be selfish Mr Nxesi.Thuli must investigate the SHOWER PRESIDENT.

      rasgaddafi.chepape - 2012-11-07 07:37

      Richer get richer while ordinary people are jobless.

  • derrickdee.ditshego - 2012-10-07 14:34

    This time zuma has gone too far